An Update on Earl Our Suffolk Colt // Putting Up Board & Batten On Barn

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @Jozomo
    @Jozomo 3 года назад +4

    I could not wait till the end of video, skipped ahead to see Earl's update. He is enjoying his environment and loving. Went back and watched the whole video, you and Brenda are the best on You Tube. Explanations and clarity for us city people, thanks and blessings.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Yes, he seems to be doing well. Thanks for your nice comment and for watching, we appreciate it!

  • @rottiman100
    @rottiman100 3 года назад +1

    We are all pulling for you EARL.........

  • @chrisark8039
    @chrisark8039 3 года назад

    Kathy Ark
    Just beautiful work on the barn what a blessing the sawmill !!!!

  • @hfbroady
    @hfbroady 3 года назад +8

    Love the camera angle on the sawmill while sawing the lumber. You sir are living the life I hope and pray that I can live one day!! Thank you for sharing your life!!

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      I hope you can, I'll help you out however I can if you have questions. Hope the videos help. Keep working toward your dreams.

  • @louisecassidy5991
    @louisecassidy5991 3 года назад

    That sawmill is a good thing, only ever seen the old circular saw. The vets these days have some marvellous hypnotics for any standing up surgery, should go like clockwork and I'm wishing him and you and Brenda all the best on the pathology work.

  • @gastoncannon4710
    @gastoncannon4710 3 года назад +6

    👍👍👍👍👍❤️💙💚💜💗. Awesome job on the mill, and that wall looks professional, which it is you just didn’t get paid 🤠. Come on Earl, we’re cheering for you! Thanks Jim for your videos.

  • @sandib4234
    @sandib4234 3 года назад +1

    Really nice to watch something wholesome. I bet Earl will be fine. I didn't see that old ornery Duke. Haha 😁😹 🙃 well I had to edit it at the end because I did see Duke!

  • @PeterMcfarlane-l7v
    @PeterMcfarlane-l7v 7 месяцев назад

    Beautiful job on the barn Jim ,love yours and Brenda’s work cheers from Peter in Australia xxxxxx

  • @barrybracegirdle2931
    @barrybracegirdle2931 3 года назад

    Cindy speaking (Barry's wife ) The sawmill is looking great. We hope Earl will be OK. Thank you for sharing. Our weather is warming up. +20 for our high today. Wishing you and Brenda a wonderful week. From PEI

  • @jimarsenault849
    @jimarsenault849 3 года назад

    I ENJOY ALL YOUR VIDEOS YOUR BARN RENOVATION LOOKS GREAT AND HOPE eARL HAS AGREAT OUTCOME WITH HIS PROCEDURE

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 3 года назад

    I love your forestry management.

  • @kimcwhite6509
    @kimcwhite6509 3 года назад +5

    Beautiful wood and nice saw setup! Thx for the answer to my question about green lumber. I hope Earl's lump removal and biopsy turn out ok. He's a really nice horse, as are all of your horses!

  • @chrism1164
    @chrism1164 Год назад

    Amazing to see the log cut into boards! And, is there anything Jim can't do? Earl is such a good boy! Great video.

  • @sueupham2519
    @sueupham2519 3 года назад

    Very good ways to treat and train animals,,good man there

  • @caroledwards3465
    @caroledwards3465 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting as usual Jim and Brenda, we hope all goes well for Earl's opp. Stay safe and well from Sue and Carol from the North Norfolk coast UK....so pleased you still use feet and inches...we are metric here but I still think in feet and inches..its an age thing I think lol

  • @danemyrtle2194
    @danemyrtle2194 2 года назад

    I am a bit behind on watching these but I love all the horses and the colts also. They are very cute

  • @randybutler4772
    @randybutler4772 3 года назад

    They both look much better since worming and growth. Thank you for sharing.
    🐴🐴

  • @jeffjahns1974
    @jeffjahns1974 3 года назад

    I love listening to barn swallows chatter

  • @lesliewatts2878
    @lesliewatts2878 3 года назад +1

    Earl the pearl. Oh he looks like he is going to be a powerhouse. You're bringing him along very nicely, Jim. The tumour is a 'bummer', but I'm sure he'll be OK. Not to worry.

  • @larrycounce4509
    @larrycounce4509 3 года назад

    Great to see a hammer rather than an air gun, well done.

  • @larrykerr7712
    @larrykerr7712 3 года назад

    You have your mill set up very handy for by yourself.It is always nice to have a helper! Earl is coming along very nicely.Best of luck with his operation.

  • @lindareeds7863
    @lindareeds7863 3 года назад

    I love board and batten. You're doing a beautiful job, as usual. Brenda is a great help with everything you do.

  • @jodiedwards9436
    @jodiedwards9436 3 года назад

    Another great video. Siding looks good. The colts are growing nice. Thank you for the video

  • @jimputnam2044
    @jimputnam2044 3 года назад

    That is the best little one man mill I have seen.

  • @annettecinquemanifalbo17
    @annettecinquemanifalbo17 3 года назад +3

    That was so interesting! I've never seen how logs are cut into boards before! You have quite the operation there at your place! What a handyman you are!! You and your wife make an awesome team! I'll be including Earl in my daily prayers and that all goes well. Have a nice sunny day... It's raining cats and dogs here in East Texas!

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Thanks for the prayers! Yes, it's a nice day here

    • @impunitythebagpuss
      @impunitythebagpuss 3 года назад +1

      Frost tonight here in Newfoundland...so much for putting in the garden yet!

    • @annettecinquemanifalbo17
      @annettecinquemanifalbo17 3 года назад

      @@impunitythebagpuss where's Newfoundland!? And I only have a few things in the ground.. I've been waiting for this weather to cooperate with me so I could get my garden planted! Gosh I'm ready to getter done!!

  • @FloridaJack
    @FloridaJack 3 года назад

    Always enjoy your videos, Jim.

  • @ericlakota6512
    @ericlakota6512 3 года назад

    Jim i like how u talk about the whole farm and every thing i like all your stuff seems your realy good at making intresting videos never seen a video i dident watch from front to back .

  • @bjbrown
    @bjbrown 3 года назад +2

    The barn is really coming along nicely. I don’t know how you manage everything but you have your lovely wife to help and that’s nice. The boys are really growing, must be all of the great food. Hopefully the surgery is soon and everything is fine. Take care and stay safe!

  • @shanelamell2229
    @shanelamell2229 3 года назад

    Thanks again for sharing and I shared this one on Facebook. Hope you can get some more people to start watching. Hope it works. Have a nice safe day!!

  • @jasonh.8362
    @jasonh.8362 3 года назад

    So it floats. Excellent

  • @impunitythebagpuss
    @impunitythebagpuss 3 года назад

    What an efficient sawmill set up you have. I remember as a kid going to the local sawmill with my grandfather, to order a load of slabs...he used them in the kitchen oil/wood stove right up until the 80s!

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      They work good, we use them in our outdoor wood boiler to heat the house.

  • @br927
    @br927 3 года назад

    Good job on the wall!! I like Earl! I like the fuzzy hair between his ears!

  • @shellymb
    @shellymb 3 года назад

    Love watching you cut lumber! Thanks

  • @bettykremer1865
    @bettykremer1865 3 года назад

    Thanks, Jim! So educational!

  • @territn8871
    @territn8871 3 года назад

    Jim, the work you've done with Duke and Earl so far has been amazing, and I've enjoyed it every step of the way! In the beginning, when you first loaded them up to come home, I never would have thought they would be so tamed down and calm so soon! They seem to be growing up to be another fine draft team for you!!!!! I sure enjoy watching you work all the horses and how the obey commands. Hoping the surgical procedure for Earl goes easy for him.

  • @amyharrell251
    @amyharrell251 3 года назад +6

    Glad your able to get Earl the help he needs. The wall is looking good. 200 pounds Earl had gained wow good.

  • @johnwinden8511
    @johnwinden8511 3 года назад

    Very interesting video Jim, thank you. I have to call on my wife often to lend me a hand, like Brenda, she’s a good sport. The building sure looks good. It’s worth all the time and effort to be able to look at the completed job and feel good.
    John

  • @kevechevroletcoupee4621
    @kevechevroletcoupee4621 3 года назад +2

    Dang they've put on some LBS. they're certainly a lot more comfortable with all of the new scenarios. Keep up the great work, can't wait for the next video!!👏🏼👏🏼

  • @nathanburgess4928
    @nathanburgess4928 3 года назад

    👍👍looking good Jim

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 3 года назад +1

    I had a feeling he was getting up close to 900. I figured he was going to fool you. He also had one foot off on the frame, so he might even be heavier than the weight you got. What a good boy he is getting to be. He just got right on there and stood quietly. I'm so glad to see your barn repaired. If I had the farm to go back to, I think a lumbermill would be one of my primary purchases. It is so expensive to buy lumber to repair anything, but if you have a lumbermill, you can keep everything in good repair.
    On the standing stalls, that was what I found too. Our ancestors were not stupid when they kept horses in standing stalls most of the time. I found that a horse kept in a standing stall from a young age simply knows how to back, but a horse kept in box stalls has to be taught to back, and it can be an arduous process. They also are quite used to standing next to a team mate, to making small adjustments to allow someone to move around them, and to standing quietly.

  • @healyfamily4
    @healyfamily4 3 года назад

    I like the look of the wall. Good luck with Earl and the procedure.

  • @canvids1
    @canvids1 3 года назад

    Your videos are so enjoyable thanks for posting.

  • @johncritch6812
    @johncritch6812 3 года назад

    So beautifully trained gentle giants.

  • @willwipf7030
    @willwipf7030 3 года назад

    Great video, Brenda is awesome, like them red horses they going to be good match up ,

  • @mfc4591
    @mfc4591 3 года назад

    Through your good care the colts are looking great. They learn from life and your teaching too. The side of the sawmill...done old school, (done right) no pneumatic nail guns etc, looks very good.

  • @Peter-gi3re
    @Peter-gi3re 3 года назад +4

    It must feel really good to be able to make your own 2x material and not have to go and pay the crazy prices at a lumber yard.
    I think if you saw the prices at the lumber yard you would run that saw mill day and night making 2x material.
    Sure hope poor Earl gets through his tumor removal without too much distress and that he gets a clean bill of health. He sure is thriving in his new home

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Yes, glad we have the sawmill right now. Thanks for the good wishes for Earl

    • @gordonsharp7572
      @gordonsharp7572 3 года назад +1

      We got our two 2yr. Old soffolk punches home from alberta last Wednesday so far just petting them and brushing them to day I was able to lead them around the fenced in area about 3 times one way and 3 times the other way the one leads quit well the other takes a little more work I look forward to seeing your videos hope ing I can learn thanks for your effort I know it must be time consumming

  • @jarlwolf3939
    @jarlwolf3939 3 года назад

    Great job well done all.

  • @timcowan637
    @timcowan637 3 года назад

    👍hope Earl is ok🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

  • @steveadams99708
    @steveadams99708 3 года назад

    Interesting video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Plan_it-Farm
    @Plan_it-Farm 3 года назад

    Jim the place is looking great

  • @skyrocketcoast219
    @skyrocketcoast219 3 года назад

    What a great logging & lumber set up you have. Most impressive & incredible!
    Your barn is looking great.
    Hope Earl gets on the mend soon!

  • @gunter446
    @gunter446 3 года назад

    Good morning Jim and Brenda,

  • @villagesteader3552
    @villagesteader3552 3 года назад +1

    I see Inspector Barbie is on the job site again today!
    Earl and Duke are growing like weeds.
    ♥️👍🙏🇺🇸🤓

  • @kingwood4357
    @kingwood4357 3 года назад

    Nice job on the wall.

  • @judishaffer9654
    @judishaffer9654 3 года назад

    Good job,guy

  • @halibut1249
    @halibut1249 3 года назад

    With lumber prices up, it's nice to have a saw like that one.Hope all goes well taking the tumor off.

  • @harvydeborahpyke615
    @harvydeborahpyke615 3 года назад

    A good job finished for now

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge3624 3 года назад

    I saw a few times horse driving circular saws, mostly Amish and the worked fine

  • @ronharrison1776
    @ronharrison1776 3 года назад

    Wall looks really good .

  • @tuubiasmanes
    @tuubiasmanes 3 года назад

    Hey Jim and Brenda, I love your videos and I take part one your work. I'm looking forward to the next video. Sorry for my bad English. Greetings from Germany. 👍😎

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Hello! Glad you are enjoying the videos. How are things in Germany?

    • @tuubiasmanes
      @tuubiasmanes 3 года назад

      @@WorkingHorsesWithJim I am not familiar with farm work with horses in Germany. Cold-blooded horses are used here as wooden back horses. they do not destroy the soil in forestry operations. In my childhood (1950) working with horses was normal. I love your work and the horses. greetings 😎

    • @tuubiasmanes
      @tuubiasmanes 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/9wQPF4RQVAI/видео.html

  • @jerryjarrell2373
    @jerryjarrell2373 3 года назад +4

    I enjoy learning from you keep up the good work stay safe and God bless

  • @maryleonard6381
    @maryleonard6381 3 года назад

    The barn looks great. You did a good job!

  • @lizhaydon2250
    @lizhaydon2250 3 года назад

    Nice barn

  • @danamelby4090
    @danamelby4090 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing love the look off the barn looks nice!

  • @jimcour291
    @jimcour291 3 года назад +3

    It was great to see a real hammer working!! Sounds so different from the air hammers of the day!! As I thought, Earl has really sprouted. There is not a lot of difference now, between the 2. Once that tumor is gone, I think it will be leaps and bounds.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @jimcour291
      @jimcour291 3 года назад +1

      @@WorkingHorsesWithJim There is never a video that I have not enjoyed Jim.......

  • @DebdeK
    @DebdeK 3 года назад

    I really enjoy your channel, I watch another sawmill channel but and the camera angles are much more interesting, tell what your doing much more informative the camera angles are unique. also enjoy your work with the horses, the blend of horsepower & mechanical hp is interesting.

  • @biddydibdab9180
    @biddydibdab9180 3 года назад

    I love the sawmill part of the video. I can almost smell the fragrant sawdust. Have you done a video where you explain how the mill actually works? It’s fascinating.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      I talk a bit about the mill in a lot of videos I have done. If you are interested, I do have a playlist desgnated to the sawmill. But that might be a good idea for an upcoming video, thanks!

  • @seaknightvirchow8131
    @seaknightvirchow8131 3 года назад

    I am currently milling my own board and batten on my farm shop, alone. I would love to have learned from someone like you. I am going to use a jointer on the boards I think but am still uncertain about that. I am going ti use screws. I am going to put the screws through the batten and between the boards.

  • @robertlivingstone5759
    @robertlivingstone5759 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @richardhessert7862
    @richardhessert7862 3 года назад

    Built my house and garage out of rough cut and did board and batten. Only one problem with rough cut is were I got it from- not to consistent on width and shows in the walls. Hope all turns out good for the colt! Stay safe!

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      Good for you, yes, that's trouble with rough cut sometimes. Thanks, you too!

  • @m.harris2429
    @m.harris2429 3 года назад

    We love your videos, Jim. We were wondering if you should wear a mask when you are sawing...to protect your lungs from the dust? ❤

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 года назад

    There are three or four guys around here that have sawmills similar to your setup. and I've gotten lumber from them lots of times. got some nice Red oak for my woodworking bench. and always grab some Hemlock for repairs around the garages etc. one thought though. how come you do not or did not use a Pneumatic nailer on that wall project? real time saver. and labor. And like so many others I hope Earl's tumor turns out to be a good tern of events. thanks for sharing !

  • @kimfleury
    @kimfleury 3 года назад

    I hope Earl turns out ok. Poor guy.

  • @michaelv2181
    @michaelv2181 3 года назад

    Hi Jim great to see how earl has gained weight its a pleasure to watch how you handle you horses they are so laid back which must be testament to the way you handle them. The barn is looking good like watching you work the saw do you sharpen the blade or do you have to replace it? as always stay safe

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      I send them away to be resharpened at at WoodMizer, and they send new replacements if they can't be resharpened again

  • @klauskarbaumer6302
    @klauskarbaumer6302 3 года назад

    Being able to saw your own wood for your own purposes must be wonderful in this time of very high priced lumber. But I can't tell if the lumber you use on your barn is fresh cured. I like the way you keep your vertical boards having to be replaced.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      It’s green lumber, that’s why I have to put more nails in the batten when it dries

  • @randolphbutler1832
    @randolphbutler1832 3 года назад

    Nice looking wall! Clean and neat!
    Weight gain is attributed to the worming or growth? I enjoyed this video. Earl looks very good. Good luck w/ surgery! Please show us.
    Thank you for sharing.
    🐴💉👍

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Probably both. Thanks for with well wishes for Earl, we will keep you posted.

  • @kevinschroeder3889
    @kevinschroeder3889 3 года назад

    I started watching your channel almost a year ago. You are at 18K subs, what were you at last June? The channel's growing

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Thanks for your continuing support Kevin...probably at about 1000 subscribers last June

  • @williamlewis8741
    @williamlewis8741 3 года назад +1

    bonjour jim et brenda another quality video. question Jim are those real 2 X6's and 4's ? or are they standard home depot lumber cuts ? Jim, you've made a difference in my life. Yesterday, i blow a Plow. i want to be a ploughman ? it's a single plow, solid steel and more than a decoration piece. i'll send a photo and will you tell me what i must do to employ it please ? many thanks and cheers

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      Bonjour William, yes, they are true 2x6's and 4's, not the Home Depot version. Glad to hear you bought a plow! Sure, send me a photo and I'll see what I can do. email: workinghorseswithjim@yahoo.com

  • @SWAMPHUNTER644
    @SWAMPHUNTER644 3 года назад +10

    I think Earl is thinking "What's taking you guys so long? I could do it faster myself. Here, hold my beer!"

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      Haha, the scale was acting up! He did seem to be checking the situation out!

    • @printaboul
      @printaboul 3 года назад

      Hein.... Earl drinking beer at such an early age ....!

  • @ponygirl5716
    @ponygirl5716 3 года назад

    I was surprised that I found your lumber segment really interesting. I say that I was surprised because I usually don’t care about building and things like that. I watch you for the horses, LOL
    What do you do with the bark slabs that come off the outside? I think it is so cool that you can do this stuff yourself. I never knew how boards were made. Lumber prices are so high now that you are saving so much money.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +2

      The slabs are burned in our outdoor furnace that heats our house and water. Glad you enjoyed the vid.

  • @pup734
    @pup734 3 года назад

    A lot of questions to night. What degree blade and who makes it? Looks like it cuts straight. Are you going to film the surgery? The barn is looking great, there goes the taxes. LOL What type of wood are you using for siding. Thanks

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      WoodMizer makes the blades and we send them there to be sharpened. We will try to film the surgery. The siding was red pine. Thanks for watching

  • @mervjb809
    @mervjb809 3 года назад

    Nice job on the siding. I've been a carpenter my whole life, but could never hammer that fast!! When you refer to 2x8's, is it the actual 2" x 8", or the modern 1 1/2" x 7 1/4"?

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +1

      I wish I could actually hammer that well myself! Yes, they are the true dimensions, not the modern

  • @andreas515c2
    @andreas515c2 3 года назад

    Hi Jim, nice video. One question on your barn: did you put the pals directly into the soil? I guess they become rotten very quickly

  • @biddydibdab9180
    @biddydibdab9180 3 года назад

    Re Earl, an old vet I knew many years ago advised me to try iodine dabbed twice daily on a facial sarcoid that my horse had. The sarcoid disappeared.

  • @samgould9930
    @samgould9930 3 года назад

    Won't you need to keep a gap (or door) in the side of the barn to get all the sawdust out? Earl is doing so good he was very patient on the scales

  • @shellymb
    @shellymb 3 года назад

    Do you dry the lumber prior to cutting or using?

  • @johnbaskett2309
    @johnbaskett2309 3 года назад

    Hey Jim, do you orient the boards for potential cupping? If so, what's best, cup in or cup out?

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      Probably cup out, but I don't worry about it, I just slap them on. I'm not that good of a carpenter

    • @johnbaskett2309
      @johnbaskett2309 3 года назад

      @@WorkingHorsesWithJim I'm milling my own board and batten and installing them green for a shop I'm building. Have never attempted this before. I'm thinking of installing the boards so the edges bow out, letting the battens seal well to the boards as the boards dry. Thanks for the reply.

  • @gwc3721
    @gwc3721 3 года назад

    Do you use Eastern hemlock?

  • @salmonhunter7414
    @salmonhunter7414 3 года назад

    How long roughy in your area would it take for them boards to dry enough to nail the other side of the batten?

  • @karikallio2864
    @karikallio2864 3 года назад

    👍👍👍👍

  • @brucerazor5202
    @brucerazor5202 3 года назад

    People have forgotten that it’s about how you do your work not about how much you do

  • @kenhurley4441
    @kenhurley4441 3 года назад

    What was Earl's weight? What is the average weight for a full grown horse (2 or 3 years old?)? Duke and Earl just may be the future team of "Working horses with Jim"!

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад

      640 up to 840- actually, they won't be full grown until they are 5-6. Not sure what they will weigh, will tell you then. We will just have to wait and see what the future brings, hope so!

  • @bobanmilosevic3897
    @bobanmilosevic3897 3 года назад

    👍👍👍🙂

  • @PeterMcfarlane-l7v
    @PeterMcfarlane-l7v 7 месяцев назад

    Hi Jim you want to give your scale slide a squirt of WD40 ok cheers buddy xxxxxx

  • @jerryjarrell2373
    @jerryjarrell2373 3 года назад +2

    How much did he way I couldn't hear for the birds

    • @dannyboy7086
      @dannyboy7086 3 года назад

      i think he said weighed something like 84? lbs

    • @1TsuNami
      @1TsuNami 3 года назад

      I thought they said the first weight was 600+ pounds. But I couldn’t hear how much he weighs now.

    • @jodipokorski4354
      @jodipokorski4354 3 года назад +1

      840 lbs. Gained about 200 lbs.

    • @WorkingHorsesWithJim
      @WorkingHorsesWithJim  3 года назад +3

      840 lb, sorry, they are so noisy!

    • @jimcour291
      @jimcour291 3 года назад

      @@WorkingHorsesWithJim Never need to apologize Jim.........the birds have their work in the barn as well

  • @firecaptaintom1977
    @firecaptaintom1977 3 года назад

    839# after tumor removal.

  • @catherinebiggstaff3747
    @catherinebiggstaff3747 2 года назад

    Not much point cutting it off to send ut away its a sarcoid tumour and LASER is the best trearment so out him in your trailer Jim and take him to a clinic thar can do it. Cutting it off wont stop it itll keep coming back and youll end up with a hell.of a mess.....sorry!