@@emit_etinifthe point is luxury beliefs are just that. Not necessarily productive for the middle/lower class but make the luxury class feel good about themselves.
@@emit_etinif His point is that we have disconnected elites that happily engage in luxury beliefs, that often becomes policy, to the detriment of everyone else. So now when you look at all these polls that show faith in institutions is rock bottom, you will know it's because they are led by a bunch of elites that are engaging in their luxury beliefs. It clarifies what is happening across the west.
@@LionLeon3the majority of millionaires themselves believe in. These luxury beliefs. All the Big Corporations have DEI Departments and showed "Solidarity" with BLM
I have been reading him on Substack for a long time. I think he understands humanity in a way that most don't. Luxury beliefs are absolutely real and destructive.
The guests have been good. This event included a diversity of topics that brought insight to reality based on logic. I appreciated the substance and willingness to call out bad ideas when present culture is unsafe to do so. This talk was another example of calling out people with bad morals who pretend they’re good.
Rob, incredibly impressive. Such an interesting and contrarian view. I love people who have dedicated real time to exploring an idea in depth. Phenomenal
Dear Besties: Please have Rob Henderson on your podcast for a longer discussion like you had Coleman Hughes re: TED trying to cancel him. It is connected and Henderson seems incredibly well-versed on this topic. 32+ mins was not enough especially for the Q&A. Thank you for your consideration.
My main critique of the Summit is I wish these segments were all longer. The Q&A between the hosts and the speakers are almost all very enlightening, especially given the different perspectives of the hosts. Would love to see these be an hour instead of 30 minutes.
Another recent example is forcing schools to remain closed well past the point it was clearly not providing any additional benefit / safety. Luxury belief where anyone advocating couldn’t even imagine the trade offs lower income or middle class parent(s) and particularly single parents had to make.
@@whisper2284 lol. Where is the substance? Besides “buy my book” and a reference to a valid point made by another author, his points are just common sense masked in social science-/ business jargon. Since you disagree, and in case I missed it, can you clearly and concisely summarize the speakers point(s)??
One of the subtle things that has happened over the last few years, that no one has talked about, is the replacement of the word, wealthy with the word elite. They are not the same thing.
I can't remember how I first stumbled upon Rob Henderson over a year ago, but he made me realize how ridiculous my luxury beliefs often are. He's one of the most important -- and sane -- thinkers we have today.
I love that Chamath is divorced and this is his guest. Instead of posturing about all the reason why his divorce was good, he dug deep into another perspective. He learned. And at no point did he mention himself.
I too jumped around foster families, barley got myself through undergrad then went on to be successful at work, got married had 2 kids live on a golf course… but now I’m getting divorced… and yes this was very triggering. And for me the take away is to maintain as much stability for the kids through this transition. Like living only a couple blocks apart. Making their needs the priority.
I would like Chamath to share how his view on his own relationships have been shaped by this kind of research and knowledge. Not just his marriages but his parents and extended family.
It’s been amazing watching Chamath’s view on his relationships change, when I first started listening to his talks the way his mannerisms changed when he spoke of his ex was telling that he was hurting and spoke of her in a curt way. And now today he speaks of her in such a loving way. So as triggering as this talk can be sometimes divorce is actually better because when we make the focus growth, love for ourselves partners, our children…everyone is better for it. And often staying in a broken relationship is more destructive. Anyway would really like to hear Chamath’s perspective.
“Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often inflicting costs on the lower classes.” I see a parallel with Nicholas Naseem Taleb’s “skin in the game” theory. Having a shared risk when taking a major decision-is necessary for fairness, commercial efficiency, and risk management. I do like this new framing though. Because it better describes the social reasons for people to take up causes that actually hurt society in the short or long term.
Kanye said this about the messaging in music today, and how music industry leaders heighten artists that promote disintegration of nuclear families and community
Gents kudos to you all, this discussion is such a rare gem. An important and sensitive topic discussed Intelligently, reasonably, and in a very civic manner I dont necessarily agree with some of the arguments, but I greatly respect the discussion Bravo
Does anyone know the name of the book that Chamath mentioned at the beginning? I couldn't find anything called Breaking Apart, and I couldn't make-out the author's last name
Very good presentation, it is also a fact that marketing teams create this luxury beliefs with a nuanced psychology. I didn't do any read up on Henderson but I know chamat is a libertarian and his views quite open. In this presentation, he touched upon how LBJ's policies created this out of wedlock births. But he failed to say how consecutive conservative govt. enacted policies that curtailed abortion and how it affected this number. If the policies would have allowed to get an abortion, the numbers would have been significantly low since the lowest class would have gotten the help they needed. The cultural elites pushing their ideology come from both sides, cancel culture was pioneered by the left, but efficiently executed by the right. What I see is that elites from both sides create something and push it to their advantage either it is from money or for leisure and the populism is defined by what sticks. Henderson is very impressive and good presenter.
it's not accurate. 1/3 of police departments nationwide are not reporting any crime stats to the fed agencies. And the crimes that are reported are incomplete because they don't track every porch theft, every retail theft, every car break-in or catalytic converter stolen, let alone every assault, drug deal, DUI/DWI or rape. Dem DA Prosecutions are down, repeat offenders are up - businesses of all sizes are closing down or moving out of Dem communities over massive amounts of crime every day. they can't claim every theft on insurance or they would lose their insurance, yet their rates go up anyway because area crime is up. It is a lose/lose situation that is further exacerbated by illegal immigration.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧭 Rob Henderson, who had a challenging upbringing but succeeded academically, discusses the concept of luxury beliefs. 02:03 💰 Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often imposing costs on the lower classes. 03:41 🎩 Historical examples like top hats and spices demonstrate that status symbols must be rare and costly. 08:07 🏆 Higher-status individuals have a stronger desire for wealth and power, supported by recent studies. 09:46 🔒 High-income Americans have a significant influence on policy decisions, often insulated from negative consequences. 10:15 🔑 The "defund the police" movement gained traction, primarily supported by higher-income Americans, leading to reduced police funding and contributing to a rise in crime. 12:06 🏠 Luxury beliefs include denigrating the two-parent family structure, with cultural elites pushing ideas like ending marriages and normalizing single-parent families. 14:38 💸 Economic incentives, such as welfare policies, have unintentionally discouraged marriage, leading to negative consequences, particularly in unstable family environments. 16:37 🗣️ Rob emphasizes the need for discussions about values and family structures, as economic solutions alone may not address the issues created by luxury beliefs. 22:32 🗣️ Promoting values and speaking openly about them, even if it draws criticism, is important for those in fortunate positions in society. 23:18 💑 Focus on promoting values like marriage and attentive care for children, without denigrating other choices. 24:25 📜 Social movements and cancel culture often intertwine with status, and some of them are considered luxury beliefs. 26:15 💻 Social media contributes to the fear of expressing certain opinions, but there's a shift happening where cancel culture may be losing its effectiveness. 28:08 🌐 Populist movements can arise in response to the perception that elites promote values that don't align with the interests of working-class people. 30:14 💑 Changing dating and relationship trends, such as a shift away from hookup culture and a focus on values, may be influenced by status considerations. Made with HARPA AI
Sorry Chamath you walked out on 3 kids and a wife and hitched up with a new one a few doors down, you have the means and luxury of doing, because in your own words you "wasn't happy" - You are precisely the type of person Rob Henderson is referring to. The person who has the luxury to exercising such optionality i.e. leaving your family when you feel unhappy, whilst being on stage discussing why exercising such optionality is bad for kids.
Yup, the rich say what they dnt belief. Noticed that with the Barbie movie, Margot plays a single independent women that don't need no man, but in real life shes a Married woman. I used to think they playing us for FOOLS, but now I'm starting to think they are playing us for what we ARE.
This took some balls. He's talking about luxury beliefs to the same crowd that most likely adopt these mindset.
Exactly the audience that needs to hear it most
I was thinking the same thing.
Nah maybe a few but this ‘crowd’ is pretty dialed in (I hope?)
He literally opened my mind to my luxury beliefs.
he's telling a room full of millionaires that college students with weird ideas are the luxurious elite and they are lapping it up
Can someone tell me what his point was?
@@emit_etinifthe point is luxury beliefs are just that. Not necessarily productive for the middle/lower class but make the luxury class feel good about themselves.
@@emit_etinif His point is that we have disconnected elites that happily engage in luxury beliefs, that often becomes policy, to the detriment of everyone else. So now when you look at all these polls that show faith in institutions is rock bottom, you will know it's because they are led by a bunch of elites that are engaging in their luxury beliefs. It clarifies what is happening across the west.
@@LionLeon3the majority of millionaires themselves believe in. These luxury beliefs. All the Big Corporations have DEI Departments and showed "Solidarity" with BLM
Love that you had Rob Henderson at the summit and loved his joke about it! His work is so important and necessary. Thank you!
Rob Henderson’s was great! He’s got a knack for bringing to light long buried and important ideas.
This is the most important talk in the conference
I have been reading him on Substack for a long time. I think he understands humanity in a way that most don't. Luxury beliefs are absolutely real and destructive.
The Luxury beliefs idea is simply great. Been following rob for years.
Agree. I would argue most of the listeners/hosts of All In Pod are elites and their belief system collectively constitutes a luxury belief.
The guests have been good. This event included a diversity of topics that brought insight to reality based on logic. I appreciated the substance and willingness to call out bad ideas when present culture is unsafe to do so. This talk was another example of calling out people with bad morals who pretend they’re good.
Great analysis buddy ☠️🤣🤣
The hosts of the show are MORALLY BANKRUPT!
What are you talking about, dude?????
Yes, it's interesting to be open to other people's take on the world.
Every day's a school day.
@@andrewsaint6581 I'm open.... Openly OPPOSED
Rob, incredibly impressive. Such an interesting and contrarian view. I love people who have dedicated real time to exploring an idea in depth. Phenomenal
Dear Besties: Please have Rob Henderson on your podcast for a longer discussion like you had Coleman Hughes re: TED trying to cancel him. It is connected and Henderson seems incredibly well-versed on this topic. 32+ mins was not enough especially for the Q&A. Thank you for your consideration.
My main critique of the Summit is I wish these segments were all longer. The Q&A between the hosts and the speakers are almost all very enlightening, especially given the different perspectives of the hosts. Would love to see these be an hour instead of 30 minutes.
Agreed. But they have a packed agenda and a lot of guests. If you want a deeper conversation, head over to Jordan Peterson or Lex Fridman.
So excited to listen to this, Rob has great ideas
This is such an important talk. Thank you, Rob!
Another recent example is forcing schools to remain closed well past the point it was clearly not providing any additional benefit / safety. Luxury belief where anyone advocating couldn’t even imagine the trade offs lower income or middle class parent(s) and particularly single parents had to make.
well said. I was a student then and the strain on family that lockdown put after first few months was crazy
Absolutely brilliant conversation.
This is a great speech and discussion.
So true so good. Love you guys - change the world... please.
Good speech. I really enjoyed it. Just wish he blew his nose, before he started.
Gotta give these guys big props for just letting him speak. Well done all around!
Thank you for the great and super refreshing speaker! I truly see how the luxury thinking shows up in Hamas support.
100 percent
This is the most important presentation and conversation of the All-In Summit 2023. The summary of Zeitgeist of XXI century liberal America.
If that is the case, then would you please tell us what the speakers point was??
@@emit_etinif if you do not know what the point is you lack listening comprehension skills and should work on that
@@emit_etinifYour luxury belief is showing.
@@whisper2284 lol. Where is the substance?
Besides “buy my book” and a reference to a valid point made by another author, his points are just common sense masked in social science-/ business jargon.
Since you disagree, and in case I missed it, can you clearly and concisely summarize the speakers point(s)??
@@TerminallyLogikal see my comments below
This guy is brilliant
One of the subtle things that has happened over the last few years, that no one has talked about, is the replacement of the word, wealthy with the word elite. They are not the same thing.
Elite means a power-holder. Wealth is the commonest form of power in America. Other types of power are authority and ideological.
@@timrichardson518no, elite implies superiority, an elite athlete is not a power holding athlete
Excellent presentation and discussion. Hope this information spreads quickly.
Love the way Rob speaks and keeps bringing up real and interesting facts. You actually learn something new by listening to him.
I can't remember how I first stumbled upon Rob Henderson over a year ago, but he made me realize how ridiculous my luxury beliefs often are. He's one of the most important -- and sane -- thinkers we have today.
I agree.
First time hearing about or from him, totally worth my time.
Maybe on Jordan Peterson. At Larry’s that where I discovered him
Thanks for Rob's work! Thanks for the presentation.
Rob is an absolute king and we stan him 🫶
Excellent Rob Henderson!
I wish so many more would hear this podcast than probably will.
I love that Chamath is divorced and this is his guest. Instead of posturing about all the reason why his divorce was good, he dug deep into another perspective. He learned. And at no point did he mention himself.
I too jumped around foster families, barley got myself through undergrad then went on to be successful at work, got married had 2 kids live on a golf course… but now I’m getting divorced… and yes this was very triggering. And for me the take away is to maintain as much stability for the kids through this transition. Like living only a couple blocks apart. Making their needs the priority.
I would like Chamath to share how his view on his own relationships have been shaped by this kind of research and knowledge. Not just his marriages but his parents and extended family.
It’s been amazing watching Chamath’s view on his relationships change, when I first started listening to his talks the way his mannerisms changed when he spoke of his ex was telling that he was hurting and spoke of her in a curt way. And now today he speaks of her in such a loving way. So as triggering as this talk can be sometimes divorce is actually better because when we make the focus growth, love for ourselves partners, our children…everyone is better for it. And often staying in a broken relationship is more destructive. Anyway would really like to hear Chamath’s perspective.
Congratulations on your success out of a difficult background!
I think Chamath just got married again?
@@xletytejada ❤️
Great guests at this seminar - really liked this talk and Nicole Paulk- bravo👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽
I agree and hope he gets a Full hearing on a all in podcast. This talk was Very powerful on so many levels.
“Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often inflicting costs on the lower classes.”
I see a parallel with Nicholas Naseem Taleb’s “skin in the game” theory. Having a shared risk when taking a major decision-is necessary for fairness, commercial efficiency, and risk management.
I do like this new framing though. Because it better describes the social reasons for people to take up causes that actually hurt society in the short or long term.
Excellent presentation. I will be sharing this with people.
Rob Henderson is brilliant.
This was brilliant!
Rob is the man
Rob Henderson is the rare individual who can cogently talk across class lines
Brilliant! Puts numbers on a lot of my thinking
Rob is now officially IN with the IN crowd. 😊
26:55-27:40 JCal explains what the pod is for 45 seconds and doesn't ask a question, thanks JCal
Only halfway through but this is GOLD!
The irony here is that Chamath and Jason are full of luxury beliefs
100%, when you live on 1000 calories and 50 cents a day, who cares about some solar SPAC/grift.
Love this!
Brilliant 👏
Kanye said this about the messaging in music today, and how music industry leaders heighten artists that promote disintegration of nuclear families and community
Plenty of folks on the right have been saying this for decades
Believing in "Luxury Beliefs are Status Symbols" is the new status symbol.
At least he was at 04:07 aware of the cognitive dissonance on display even if he didn't address it any way
It’s not
I like this good man.
what was the book chamath mentioned in the beginning? couldnt find it
Coming Apart by Charles Murray
Thanks bro
Been waiting for this one
good talk
Great session.
Bangers! 🎉
So one give the guy a tissue!
Great video!
This is excellent!
It is almost SHOCKING to hear common sense validated by a measured researcher.
Best talk of the summit. Best observation.
This was really great. Someone needs to hand him a tissue though.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Snif snif snif
Gents kudos to you all, this discussion is such a rare gem. An important and sensitive topic discussed Intelligently, reasonably, and in a very civic manner
I dont necessarily agree with some of the arguments, but I greatly respect the discussion
Bravo
Feminism is the ultimate luxury belief
Sociology for the win!
Get this man a tissue
That hand from Jason left hanging @ 32:04 needs a clutch 🤝
This is my heaven…. 🥰🥂🧟♀️
Sniffles!
Really enjoying his sniffing!!!! Must've had an extra big key bump before the gig...
If it works, it works lol
I found that distracting too!
Coming Apart
-Charles Murray
Does anyone know the name of the book that Chamath mentioned at the beginning? I couldn't find anything called Breaking Apart, and I couldn't make-out the author's last name
charles murray is the author, 'coming apart' is the book i assume.
theres a reason he said the authors name unclearly
Coming Apart, Charles Murray
David Sax watching this talk 😂
I’m happy that he packaged all of this up for people… but none of this is surprising to me.
Very good presentation, it is also a fact that marketing teams create this luxury beliefs with a nuanced psychology. I didn't do any read up on Henderson but I know chamat is a libertarian and his views quite open. In this presentation, he touched upon how LBJ's policies created this out of wedlock births. But he failed to say how consecutive conservative govt. enacted policies that curtailed abortion and how it affected this number. If the policies would have allowed to get an abortion, the numbers would have been significantly low since the lowest class would have gotten the help they needed. The cultural elites pushing their ideology come from both sides, cancel culture was pioneered by the left, but efficiently executed by the right. What I see is that elites from both sides create something and push it to their advantage either it is from money or for leisure and the populism is defined by what sticks. Henderson is very impressive and good presenter.
Fantastic guest from Chamath, only miss here was someone should have given Jcal a top hat to wear
My man is sniffing hard. That foster home left him with a Coke habit. lol
Marxist/Hegelian = Elitist
Makes sense. 🙏🏾❤️🇺🇸
The point about framing can't be overstated. I'm a progressive! You're not AGAINST progress are you??
This needs more views. I’ve returned twice now.
Latest FBI data shows a decline in crime rates - how to reconcile that?
it's not accurate. 1/3 of police departments nationwide are not reporting any crime stats to the fed agencies. And the crimes that are reported are incomplete because they don't track every porch theft, every retail theft, every car break-in or catalytic converter stolen, let alone every assault, drug deal, DUI/DWI or rape. Dem DA Prosecutions are down, repeat offenders are up - businesses of all sizes are closing down or moving out of Dem communities over massive amounts of crime every day. they can't claim every theft on insurance or they would lose their insurance, yet their rates go up anyway because area crime is up. It is a lose/lose situation that is further exacerbated by illegal immigration.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🧭 Rob Henderson, who had a challenging upbringing but succeeded academically, discusses the concept of luxury beliefs.
02:03 💰 Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often imposing costs on the lower classes.
03:41 🎩 Historical examples like top hats and spices demonstrate that status symbols must be rare and costly.
08:07 🏆 Higher-status individuals have a stronger desire for wealth and power, supported by recent studies.
09:46 🔒 High-income Americans have a significant influence on policy decisions, often insulated from negative consequences.
10:15 🔑 The "defund the police" movement gained traction, primarily supported by higher-income Americans, leading to reduced police funding and contributing to a rise in crime.
12:06 🏠 Luxury beliefs include denigrating the two-parent family structure, with cultural elites pushing ideas like ending marriages and normalizing single-parent families.
14:38 💸 Economic incentives, such as welfare policies, have unintentionally discouraged marriage, leading to negative consequences, particularly in unstable family environments.
16:37 🗣️ Rob emphasizes the need for discussions about values and family structures, as economic solutions alone may not address the issues created by luxury beliefs.
22:32 🗣️ Promoting values and speaking openly about them, even if it draws criticism, is important for those in fortunate positions in society.
23:18 💑 Focus on promoting values like marriage and attentive care for children, without denigrating other choices.
24:25 📜 Social movements and cancel culture often intertwine with status, and some of them are considered luxury beliefs.
26:15 💻 Social media contributes to the fear of expressing certain opinions, but there's a shift happening where cancel culture may be losing its effectiveness.
28:08 🌐 Populist movements can arise in response to the perception that elites promote values that don't align with the interests of working-class people.
30:14 💑 Changing dating and relationship trends, such as a shift away from hookup culture and a focus on values, may be influenced by status considerations.
Made with HARPA AI
This guys on founder mode
26:30 Good idea, lets do that for YOU
This man’s squeezing all he can out of this one idea.
No shit....
Champagne socialism 🫤🥂🍾
This dude is on the Peruvian marching powder
Pure Gold!! 😉✨✅
Where can we get some ?
Talk about having a point to make and just mining research for studies that support your preconceived notion.
Sacks reminds me of Jon Lovitz
Sorry Chamath you walked out on 3 kids and a wife and hitched up with a new one a few doors down, you have the means and luxury of doing, because in your own words you "wasn't happy" - You are precisely the type of person Rob Henderson is referring to. The person who has the luxury to exercising such optionality i.e. leaving your family when you feel unhappy, whilst being on stage discussing why exercising such optionality is bad for kids.
There's no point in staying in an artificial and unhappy marriage as it will ultimately damage your children psychologically much more than a divorce.
It’s time the pendulum swung back
Thomas Sowell has been saying this for years.
Saying what
Being aware of your luxury beliefs must be a luxury belief, right? 😆
Yup, the rich say what they dnt belief. Noticed that with the Barbie movie, Margot plays a single independent women that don't need no man, but in real life shes a Married woman. I used to think they playing us for FOOLS, but now I'm starting to think they are playing us for what we ARE.
This screams Thomas Sowell.
Excellent talk but someone please give that man a tissue!
Waiting for the Botez sisters talk ❤
Somebody give this guy a tissue!
Snif snif snif snif snif snif snif snif 🤔
23:28
Call it “The Inflation Inflation Act”
32:05 JCal took an L on that one
Net zero - one hell of a luxury belief?