7) Plato's "Meno," part I

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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    In this session, part I of our two-part discussion of Plato's "Meno."
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Комментарии • 22

  • @wileyd
    @wileyd 4 года назад +12

    If only my philosophy teacher was able to explain the great philosophers the way you do then, maybe, we would have an interactive classroom instead of just a couple of people trying to grasp concepts while the rest hide their AirPods in their hair and provide nothing to the class!!!! You and your students have single handily helped me have a better understanding of our topics and discussions. I only hope our exam is as beneficial as your lectures!

  • @TheHuman9999
    @TheHuman9999 7 лет назад +22

    Mr Rosenfeld...just wanted to say thank you...it has always been an intention to get to grips with some of this stuff but life has intervened...so now at 60+ I am taking the time to ponder some of the deeper questions and of all the RUclips (and there are other disseminators), yours is both the most interesting and the most accessible...Pete.

  • @karelvorster7414
    @karelvorster7414 3 года назад +3

    You can learn new things because no new thing is an isolated item. Things we don't know can be learnt because of the connection between concepts. The unknown is a missing link.

  • @ioannabartsidi3839
    @ioannabartsidi3839 5 лет назад +1

    This is a very nice and helpful video and it's also very funny. Quite exotic compared to other classes

  • @yourawesomeness2424
    @yourawesomeness2424 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for all the videos :)

  • @daniellesydor7690
    @daniellesydor7690 5 лет назад +5

    This helped me immensely in my philosophy class, thank you

  • @85Koshka
    @85Koshka 3 года назад +1

    Great lecture!

  • @PlatoOnnPluto
    @PlatoOnnPluto 2 года назад

    awesome lectures went back to Plato because I couldn't understand Aristotle's ethics.

  • @louquay
    @louquay 5 месяцев назад

    God I love this dialogue

  • @leakytuesday4054
    @leakytuesday4054 5 лет назад

    As difficult as virtue is to define, I feel like vice is one of those self-evident things that we all understand. Ironically enough, the word "vice" appears only once in the Meno dialogue. Virtue can be summed up easily as the polar opposite of vice. Plato fails to mention that point-blank, but maybe that's why I love his style.

    • @karelvorster7414
      @karelvorster7414 3 года назад +2

      Define vice for us without those self-evident intuitions.

  • @bobsmith-gn7ly
    @bobsmith-gn7ly 4 года назад

    sides of the square are sqrt of 8 or 2sqrt2 not sqrt 2 ;) sqrt2 would be a 1x1.... thanks for the lectures am enjoying them....

  • @emmanuelperez9490
    @emmanuelperez9490 3 года назад

    Just curious; I wonder if your students chose that class willingly or if it was just a requirement for their career... Good presentation by the way.

  • @tatsumakisempyukaku
    @tatsumakisempyukaku 5 лет назад

    I suspect that what virtue is can be discerned by what it does or imparts, namely it imparts or allows for unity. It unifies the many “as” one. And so Plato’s One in the Parmenides (1st hypotheses what the one is not) or Plato’s Good are both the same in that they refer to the same thing, an essence that utterly one, without parts at any level of analysis. So pervasive throughout the one is no distinction and so it is indistinct. Not indistinct in any homogenized way, for that implies parts. But indistinct because there are no parts to it. It is one throughout. And this One allows for all other particular instances of oneness eg Forms, parts, wholes , and even the many.
    And if the One be a principle, then the one is that which allows for courage for example, and courage is a preserving. For if something isn’t preserved it changes in some way and change implies otherness, and otherness implies many, and so not one. But the one by virtue of itself remains one and allows for other than the one to continue onward via courage in some cases.
    however many times I think of it, Plato’s good or One is the corner stone to everything. To the be devoid of the One in your thinking is to be a post modernist, those who deny essence, and think reality to be a Rorschach blot. It’s all in the Parmenides.
    Lao Tzu said in his Dao Te Ching
    “The omnipresent virtue will take shape according to the Way. The way itself is like some thing seen in a dream, elusive, evading one. In it (the Omnipresent virtue) are images, elusive, evading one. In it are things like shadows in twilight. In it are essences, subtle, but real, Embedded in Truth....”
    Lao tzu and Plato are referring to the same thing. The One, in being indistinct, has no boundaries or limits and so is Omnipresent, and is holding everything together. if you deny The one, then check out the video on mereological nihilism because without the one nothing should be able to exist, by definition. But if it could, then we’d have mereological nihilism.

  • @thepants1450
    @thepants1450 2 года назад

    hm. would virtue be a quality or characteristic of man that's shaped and valued by the society and culture one lives among?

  • @dubbelkastrull
    @dubbelkastrull 2 года назад

    44:58 evil from ignorance

  • @ultrak0w
    @ultrak0w 5 лет назад

    MAn it takes me at least 3 50 minute sessions to get through the Meno with my undergrads..

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 4 года назад +1

      Considering that his 2 videos equal approximately 150 minutes, that seems to be a distinction without a difference.

  • @pinosantilli8297
    @pinosantilli8297 4 года назад

    He is harming your ego!

  • @ghostaskrens7012
    @ghostaskrens7012 5 лет назад +1

    Does anyone else think Socrates had an inferiority complex towards good looking people?

    • @leakytuesday4054
      @leakytuesday4054 5 лет назад +4

      I think he just likes to flirt with young handsome guys.