This paper is my new favorite thing. I use gamblin solvent free gell to oil out the paper. I would love to see more demonstration videos on this paper as well as painting techniques. I would love to see how you display your work on this paper.
I have just begun to experiment on arches paper. My first few studio sessions blew my mind. This tutorial is so informative and I am so very grateful for your generosity. I would like to share that I have worked with resin and acrylic intensely for the last 4 years only to have developed major skin prolems, landfill violations, and a necessary home reno,; not to mention the impact on my famiy. The guilt is awful (I am planting trees this summer) Arches paper also solves the problem of small workspace and storage of paintings that don't sell. I love the freedom to create, scrapbook and frame when something spectacular happens.
Very interesting video Joel, thanks! I've had a play with the Stonehenge oil paper which is similar in texture to the Arches, the way it "catches" onto the paint because of the texture and absorbency kind of reminds me of painting on very low pile velvet. Not that I've ever done that with oils, but yeah, the paper has a distinct texture that's different from a canvas or even various types of canvas paper I've tried. I'd love to see how you handle such big rolls of paper and prevent creasing, etc, as well as how you mount bigger pieces. I saw in one of your comments below that you use a special double sided tape, I think that would be a very interesting video. I know how much work it is to create and edit YT videos, I have over a hundred on my channel for stitchers, but even a short video or one that's shot while you're actually working would be helpful. Like don't worry about getting it all prettily presented and such, if we can see what you're doing clearly enough that'd be great. 😊
Great! I love the idea of using paper for oils. You have convinced me M Graham can dry fast as an alkyd. At 76, I want a dry painting before I’m dead. Makes for nice keepsakes for the kids. Now playing with Liquin desolving Berol Primacolors for quick sketches. Thanks
I just stumbled upon this video… I was horsing around with an old piece of oil paper I picked up a few years ago and wanted to know how it was made and what made it different. This was a very enlightening video; great job! I had used hot press water color paper for colored pencil, but this may be a game changer for me because I can blend the pencil with oil (I used safflower oil) and I found I lost a lot of the waxiness of CP which I never liked. You also have me intrigued about M graham paints and alkyd medium. Thanks so much!!
Ah mate, loved the video, really helpful - was eager to see videos on how to cut the paper roll, how to stop it curling, and how to mount it - then saw you don't upload anymore. Such a shame, as you content is great. Anyway, hope you're well.
Very informative video full of useful information. I was thinking about painting on paper with oil and you have covered so much ground in a pleasant style. I have subscribed so will be looking forward to more episodes.
I just used this paper for the first time, and I wasn't prepared for how aborbent it was! I'll definitely try spreading linseed oil around like you showed. Thanks for sharing; I really enjoyed it! Not sure if you've tried this, but I'm also going to experiment with watercolor underpainting - I tend to need tight sketches with my subject matter, and (maybe it's just my inexperience) but I find the earlier stages of oil painting a bit... chunky and imprecise. It might be nice to have some shadows already blocked in and ready to go before the linseed oil gets added... but maybe it'll be a disaster, haha. We'll see!
@@JoelWrightArt Hahaha! Hopefully it ended up okay! In theory it shouldn't be more traumatizing than using acrylics, lol. I'll be trying watercolor-under-oil his week - wish me luck! Just have to get all my work done this weekend (and wait for a painting to dry) before I can give it a shot.
To it may concern on the Arches oil paper it is better to add some linseed oil on it before painting, it I help the paper to not absorbing the oil paint! According to my experience! But I had heard walnut oil is better than linseed oil! 😊
Very cool, I have been doing watercolor painting and recently got into painting with COBRA water mixable oil paints. I am using M Graham watercolor paints and was curious about their oil paints. I think I will give them a try.
Thank you! Appreciate the info. If you made a large painting on Arches paper what would be the options for presentation? Can you stretch this like canvas over stretcher bars or does it have to be mounted to panel or framed under glass?
Great question and that is going to be part two of this video. Oil on paper never has to be framed under glass but you could if you want to. Stretching it like canvas isn’t recommended at all. It’s too thick to bend around the bars. The large paper comes in rolls and because of that it’s warped. So flatting out the paper is step one. Then permanently mounting it to wood panel would be an option. But the spoiler alert is that it’s challenging to work with the large paper.
Thanks! I use safflower oil brush dip from Geneva art supplies. It’s a very slow drying oil so you have about two weeks after you clean it. But I’m constantly painting so it never dries before I clean it again and it resets the time.
@@RecoverArt_Ivan Try it, but it won't wick your watercolours at all like watercolour paper would. You might like the effect, but they're very different papers for different purposes. And you could sell that oil paper, it's expensive, sell it via an online or local art marketplace, and then go buy some watercolour paper.
You can watercolor on it but it looks faded and grainy. If you were doing something where that effect is desired it might work. But like peacock said you could just sell it. Most of my upcoming videos I will be using it. Maybe I will buy it haha.
Hi Joel, thanks for a very informative video. I am new to using Arches oil paper. What kind of archival adhesive you use to mount the Arches Oil Paper on the wooden board? And what kind & thickness board is best and economical to use for this purpose. Thanks in advance. Omar
Hey Omar! Most artists would recommend PVA acid free glue with weighted pressure until it dries but in my experience you’re going to risk buckling of the paper and the edges don’t adhere properly because the pressure pushes the glue off the edges. I recommend and use ATG acid free double sided tape. It is a permanent adhesive but it works so effortless and so well for the edges. The device you use to apply it is hard to get the hang of. I’ll have to make a video about that. For panels use cradled panels only because of the frames on the back provide reinforcement so you won’t have warping of the board. And let me tell you warping does happen if you’re in a humid environment. I am and I’ve seen it happen in a short time. Hope that helps!
I really liked your presentation and demo. Nice and calm and informative. I’ve been painting on a lot of different papers, including Arches watercolor paper, and I didn’t realize I had to gesso the paper, before adding paint. I usually paint on canvas, but started painting on paper, due to the pandemic and limited space to work in . I am upset that I have painted so many paintings, ranging in size from 9x12- to 22x30 this way. Are they ruined? ( Oil paint by the way.)
Thank you I appreciate that. The oil paintings that you have done on paper without gesso are not archival unfortunately. The fibers will begin to rot or mold at some point in the future. I recommend taking high quality pictures of these paintings and making prints and then consider the original destroyed. You can still keep the paintings and watch what happens to it overtime. I have done some experiments and after a few years the paintings still exist but the backs look pretty disgusting haha. Going forward make sure to use gesso or regular paper or use the oil paper.
This paper is my new favorite thing. I use gamblin solvent free gell to oil out the paper.
I would love to see more demonstration videos on this paper as well as painting techniques. I would love to see how you display your work on this paper.
I have just begun to experiment on arches paper. My first few studio sessions blew my mind. This tutorial is so informative and I am so very grateful for your generosity. I would like to share that I have worked with resin and acrylic intensely for the last 4 years only to have developed major skin prolems, landfill violations, and a necessary home reno,; not to mention the impact on my famiy.
The guilt is awful (I am planting trees this summer) Arches paper also solves the problem of small workspace and storage of paintings that don't sell. I love the freedom to create, scrapbook and frame when something spectacular happens.
Very interesting video Joel, thanks! I've had a play with the Stonehenge oil paper which is similar in texture to the Arches, the way it "catches" onto the paint because of the texture and absorbency kind of reminds me of painting on very low pile velvet. Not that I've ever done that with oils, but yeah, the paper has a distinct texture that's different from a canvas or even various types of canvas paper I've tried. I'd love to see how you handle such big rolls of paper and prevent creasing, etc, as well as how you mount bigger pieces. I saw in one of your comments below that you use a special double sided tape, I think that would be a very interesting video. I know how much work it is to create and edit YT videos, I have over a hundred on my channel for stitchers, but even a short video or one that's shot while you're actually working would be helpful. Like don't worry about getting it all prettily presented and such, if we can see what you're doing clearly enough that'd be great. 😊
i really appreciate the encouragement. I am working on a video now! Hopefully I can focus more on my channel this year.
Great! I love the idea of using paper for oils. You have convinced me M Graham can dry fast as an alkyd. At 76, I want a dry painting before I’m dead. Makes for nice keepsakes for the kids. Now playing with Liquin desolving Berol Primacolors for quick sketches. Thanks
I just stumbled upon this video… I was horsing around with an old piece of oil paper I picked up a few years ago and wanted to know how it was made and what made it different. This was a very enlightening video; great job! I had used hot press water color paper for colored pencil, but this may be a game changer for me because I can blend the pencil with oil (I used safflower oil) and I found I lost a lot of the waxiness of CP which I never liked. You also have me intrigued about M graham paints and alkyd medium. Thanks so much!!
This was such an amazing and helpful video! Thank you so much! Can’t wait to watch more!
Ah mate, loved the video, really helpful - was eager to see videos on how to cut the paper roll, how to stop it curling, and how to mount it - then saw you don't upload anymore. Such a shame, as you content is great. Anyway, hope you're well.
Love this!
Do you gamvar the back of the paper also?
Very informative video full of useful information. I was thinking about painting on paper with oil and you have covered so much ground in a pleasant style. I have subscribed so will be looking forward to more episodes.
I just used this paper for the first time, and I wasn't prepared for how aborbent it was! I'll definitely try spreading linseed oil around like you showed. Thanks for sharing; I really enjoyed it!
Not sure if you've tried this, but I'm also going to experiment with watercolor underpainting - I tend to need tight sketches with my subject matter, and (maybe it's just my inexperience) but I find the earlier stages of oil painting a bit... chunky and imprecise. It might be nice to have some shadows already blocked in and ready to go before the linseed oil gets added... but maybe it'll be a disaster, haha. We'll see!
I have tried it! And I think you should but let me know how it turns out for you. I’m not going to spoil it.
@@JoelWrightArt Hahaha! Hopefully it ended up okay! In theory it shouldn't be more traumatizing than using acrylics, lol.
I'll be trying watercolor-under-oil his week - wish me luck! Just have to get all my work done this weekend (and wait for a painting to dry) before I can give it a shot.
How do you feel about Canson and other brands of oil paper?
This is really helpful, thankyou!
Such great information!
Thank you! I can talk forever about art and art supplies. lol
How do I straighten the roll paper and how do you mount it.
Really enjoyed this video, Joel. I listened to the whole thing... while I finished a painting on Arches Oil Paper! Cheers from Houston.
Excellent Steve! Did you like painting on the arches paper?
To it may concern on the Arches oil paper it is better to add some linseed oil on it before painting, it I help the paper to not absorbing the oil paint! According to my experience! But I had heard walnut oil is better than linseed oil! 😊
I think that is a very good idea for certain techniques. Depends on your approach but creates a great flow!
Very cool, I have been doing watercolor painting and recently got into painting with COBRA water mixable oil paints. I am using M Graham watercolor paints and was curious about their oil paints. I think I will give them a try.
Did you try cobra on this paper? How did it go?
Thank you! Appreciate the info. If you made a large painting on Arches paper what would be the options for presentation? Can you stretch this like canvas over stretcher bars or does it have to be mounted to panel or framed under glass?
Great question and that is going to be part two of this video. Oil on paper never has to be framed under glass but you could if you want to. Stretching it like canvas isn’t recommended at all. It’s too thick to bend around the bars. The large paper comes in rolls and because of that it’s warped. So flatting out the paper is step one. Then permanently mounting it to wood panel would be an option. But the spoiler alert is that it’s challenging to work with the large paper.
Fantastic video! Thanks!
What do you use to clean your brushes?
Thanks! I use safflower oil brush dip from Geneva art supplies. It’s a very slow drying oil so you have about two weeks after you clean it. But I’m constantly painting so it never dries before I clean it again and it resets the time.
Thank you 😊
I was given 5 pads of arches oil paper 9 x 12 (red pad) I don’t paint in oil I’m new to watercolor can I paint with watercolor on oil paper?
I just got the your suggestion to not watercolor on oil paper; can I alter the paper somehow to be able to use it? I have so much oil paper 😊
@@RecoverArt_Ivan Try it, but it won't wick your watercolours at all like watercolour paper would. You might like the effect, but they're very different papers for different purposes. And you could sell that oil paper, it's expensive, sell it via an online or local art marketplace, and then go buy some watercolour paper.
You can watercolor on it but it looks faded and grainy. If you were doing something where that effect is desired it might work. But like peacock said you could just sell it. Most of my upcoming videos I will be using it. Maybe I will buy it haha.
Question: If I paint directly on the pad, does the oil or paint transfer to the next sheet?
No it will not bleed through at all so you can paint directly on the pad.
How do you frame your oil paintings on arches paper?
You don't have to use glass like you do with watercolor paper if that is what you are wondering. Other than than fact, any way you like.
Oh cool! Thank you so much!
Hi Joel, thanks for a very informative video. I am new to using Arches oil paper. What kind of archival adhesive you use to mount the Arches Oil Paper on the wooden board? And what kind & thickness board is best and economical to use for this purpose. Thanks in advance. Omar
Hey Omar! Most artists would recommend PVA acid free glue with weighted pressure until it dries but in my experience you’re going to risk buckling of the paper and the edges don’t adhere properly because the pressure pushes the glue off the edges. I recommend and use ATG acid free double sided tape. It is a permanent adhesive but it works so effortless and so well for the edges. The device you use to apply it is hard to get the hang of. I’ll have to make a video about that. For panels use cradled panels only because of the frames on the back provide reinforcement so you won’t have warping of the board. And let me tell you warping does happen if you’re in a humid environment. I am and I’ve seen it happen in a short time. Hope that helps!
@@JoelWrightArt Thank you. Much appreciated.
I really liked your presentation and demo. Nice and calm and informative. I’ve been painting on a lot of different papers, including Arches watercolor paper, and I didn’t realize I had to gesso the paper, before adding paint. I usually paint on canvas, but started painting on paper, due to the pandemic and limited space to work in . I am upset that I have painted so many paintings, ranging in size from 9x12- to 22x30 this way. Are they ruined? ( Oil paint by the way.)
Thank you I appreciate that. The oil paintings that you have done on paper without gesso are not archival unfortunately. The fibers will begin to rot or mold at some point in the future. I recommend taking high quality pictures of these paintings and making prints and then consider the original destroyed. You can still keep the paintings and watch what happens to it overtime. I have done some experiments and after a few years the paintings still exist but the backs look pretty disgusting haha. Going forward make sure to use gesso or regular paper or use the oil paper.
These pads are only 10 sheets now.