Am proud to be a Ndebele the grand daughter of lobengula. When i was in form 3 all the schools in matebeleland north zimbanwe organised a ceremony to remember our father. We went to the river shangani where king lobengula disappeared. Bayethe
The people living in what is known as Matabele state in Zimbabwe are often referred to as the Ndebele, AmaNdebele, Matabele or Northern Ndebele. They are factually distinguished from the Southern Ndebele in South Africa who speak a different language and culture. The Ndebele in Zimbabwe are the descendants of His Majesty Mzilikazi Khumalo's followers who originate in what is today known as Kwa-Zulu Natal South Africa. There are some who's ancestors originate in other parts of Southern Africa as many joined Mzilikazi in his journey but their language and cultural arrangement is identical to that of the great Zulu nation found in Natal. I may be wrong but in My opinion, it would be more historically and culturally accurate to either refer to them as Northern Zulu's or call them by another name such as the nation of Mkhwanazi in the alternative. That being said, I am fascinated by their culture and their heritage. Much love and respect to the Mkhwanazi people. Bayede!
I am hearing that for the first time but I seriously doubt your definition of mahlabezulu. The word mahlabezulu means thunderstorms. Isiqalo salon leligama mahlabe means woe. Yes Ndebele people are on record addressed as mahlabezulu. Mthwakazi means beautiful. How befitting would it be that they named the new Zululand uMthwakazi
It's not a movie. it's an 8 part series called Rhodes, The Life & Legend of Cecil Rhodes. these are just clips cut from the series that involve the Ndebele. I watched the series and its very good though.
@@DADAMANism not bad hey , so do you think for Shaka was good .who made Shaka to more famous ,it was king Mzilikazi who made him be known cause he produced military skills in Shaka's army
Umagagane my grand father was leading a platoon towards masvingo in pursue of king lobengula herds of cattle when he was told to withdraw bulawayo was in flames the king has fled thts how we got rich my grand father handed some of the head to u Nduna u Malaba his uncle and kept some for himself Ism proud of tht
One thing hurts me the most about our kingdom is the fact that Ndebele people are so loyal and easily get carried away. We trust much in our word without knowing the other side. Here our warriors surrendered IZIKHALI to the whites ngomnali. In the same Manner, ngempi YENTUMBANE ZIPRA FORCES HAD TO SURRENDER AGAIN ngobaba UNKOMO. Kungani kwanjalo? I HATE WEAKENESS, FOR IT CURTAILS DEATH. MOREOVER, THOSE WHO FORGET THEIR HISTORICAL ENEMIES ARE BOUND TO DEATH! . Sasilibinza, sesiyingcosana.
Remember this is the story as told by the settlers. As usual the History is correct according to who tells it. We would have a totally different story.
@@blessingmlalazi2875 ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽... Then someone comes from greatness.. lol. To know your direct answer ancestor is amazing in itself. ..Let alone it being the King of the Zulu.
I worked in Matabeleland at Mabutweni. That is exactly why Smith decalred UDI so that the poeple of Rhodesia could all be free and one prosporous nation without England. Mugabe a Shona proved he could not rule and look at the mess today. Nkomo on his death bed said his biggest mistake was not siding with smith against Mugabes forces. The country would be different place today call it what you want but its true and everyone honest enough to admit it will agree. So sad, Oh so sad. Mzilikazi and Lobegula where friends with Rhodes, not the rebel Englishan and that is why today the Ndebele still protect their burial sites. The Shona dont care ansd use red Barrets to still hate and kill the Ndebele.
not Zimbabwean but Mthwakazi. Ever asked yourself why Matebeleland has its own reserve bank from way back? There is even a well documented border that separates Mthwakazi land from the inhabitants of the north, the Zimbabweans
The Ndebele warriors finally matched the colonial army bullet to bullet that must be at Tshangani river where major Johnson and his troops were neutralized.The movie directors made an error Lobengula's remains were never found and he didn't commit suicide.
Because those that eventually conquer re-write history to suit their own designs, and hence undermine truth, as they seek to replace that culture with their own. I, am a Cornish man of 61 years. The English took from my people our language, and replaced it with theirs. They killed and starved my people in the 1400's, they took our mineral wealth for their own. We were too few to resist them for long.They were well versed in treachery and lies and cruelty before they set sail for Africa to impose their iron hand on her peoples Tina. Such were the English that the Cornish suffered under.
I didnt make the original. I took every single clip from the mini-series (hours and hours of it) and put them together, so we could watch the amandebele in one go. as they were the best bits, mfewethu
Mzilikazi was one of Shaka Zulu indunas but for some reason he run away to the North and Shaka never tried to follow him and punish him for disobedience, Mzilikazi the Great warrior created His own Kingdom. BAYETE !!! I'm not African okay.
Some generals did try to punish him by sending warriors after him. The last group which was on his trail stopped in Botswana, hence how Zulus ended up in Botswana.
They clashed, not once. But Mzilikazi was always a better Military man. All his Military genius unfortunately has been credited to Shaka, since Mzilikazi for some time was under him and loyal to him. King Dingane even went after him at Transavaal and was utterly defeated. Bayethe!
They had a falling out after Shakes 3rd campaign in the north against the swazi People. This was around the time when shaka begun to transition in to a Tyrant which was exhibated when he first met the British which filed his paranoia and in the process went from a great conquerer to a mad Autocrat. And ofcourse his generals didn't want to deal with that.
INkosi uLobhengula...Ingqungqul' emadol' abomvu ngokuguq' ezingazin' zezitha...I hate it when foreigners try to tell us how to remember our kung who they erroneously refer to as "Lobengula"
Well as an American I’m surprised to find the great king Lobengula depicted in film. I only just recently learned about the Ndebele. The king obviously cared for his people and was cheated by Rudd, Rhodes and many others. Lobengula is depicted very honorably in the history book diamonds, gold and war: the making of South Africa. I wish I could read more about him and his times.
@@livingfaith9189Actualy when there first account with the British many of the British translaters described him as no nonsense but Ultamely to much of a trusting king. He was pragmatic in the sense he knew he couldn't do much against the British and instead chose allieing with them and giving them rights to mine in Matabele land not realising he was being cheated by Rhodes. From the Afrikaaner translaters he was a relatively kind but no nonsense semi brutal king who valued trust amongst all else. And unlike Dingang of the Zulus he we described as a man who kept his word as respect and admiration to his father who promised the Matabele land and a Home after departing from Shakas Zulu Empire and actualy kept his word. And he was respected enough by the British they turned the cave he was buried in, sealed it off and built a memorial for him. "When he made an oath he kept it, he was truly the Nobel savage"-Cecil Rhodes
@@xeshandlovu8084 lmao what kind of history is that? Zimbabwean Ndebele is just a mix of isiZulu and a bit of IsiXhosa and South African Ndebele is like a mix of Zulu and Sesotho Sepedi and Setswana
My mum hails from Matebeleland and my dad is Manyika from Nyanga. I don't know what it is in those days ndebele women if married to Shona was mostly Manyika men I love my ndebele side of my culture. Stand up people if ever I met one in the world
The Only Fighter Where Kings are Concerned it was The Zulu King Shaka, this Ndebele King gave in too easily and defeated too easily too...Really not impressed by an army that decided to be ruled by a white man and giving him the entire land mxim
@@melanienkomo1723 bayethe was started by the ndwandwe meaning balethe asibesabi to their king who was called ndlovu thas wy they say bayethe wena we ndlovu
![6 of 8 - Rhodes - The Life & Legend of Cecil Rhodes - 'Land, Gold and Loot' [1996, 52 min.+]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w95xBtPaHZA/mqdefault.jpg)
Matebeleland deserve better than we currently getting in Zimbabwe..
Am proud to be a Ndebele the grand daughter of lobengula. When i was in form 3 all the schools in matebeleland north zimbanwe organised a ceremony to remember our father. We went to the river shangani where king lobengula disappeared. Bayethe
The people living in what is known as Matabele state in Zimbabwe are often referred to as the Ndebele, AmaNdebele, Matabele or Northern Ndebele. They are factually distinguished from the Southern Ndebele in South Africa who speak a different language and culture.
The Ndebele in Zimbabwe are the descendants of His Majesty Mzilikazi Khumalo's followers who originate in what is today known as Kwa-Zulu Natal South Africa. There are some who's ancestors originate in other parts of Southern Africa as many joined Mzilikazi in his journey but their language and cultural arrangement is identical to that of the great Zulu nation found in Natal.
I may be wrong but in My opinion, it would be more historically and culturally accurate to either refer to them as Northern Zulu's or call them by another name such as the nation of Mkhwanazi in the alternative.
That being said, I am fascinated by their culture and their heritage.
Much love and respect to the Mkhwanazi people. Bayede!
The nation is uMthwakazi Ka Zulu .
@@shadreckdangaphotography It cant be Mthwakazi kaZulu... AmaNdebele ngamaHlabezulu... Rebels, those who thrust the spear into the hearts of the Zulu.
I am hearing that for the first time but I seriously doubt your definition of mahlabezulu. The word mahlabezulu means thunderstorms. Isiqalo salon leligama mahlabe means woe. Yes Ndebele people are on record addressed as mahlabezulu. Mthwakazi means beautiful. How befitting would it be that they named the new Zululand uMthwakazi
We are not the ndebele we are amantungwa whites lies
@@aibongwemabusanyathi6792 when did the ndebele thrust spears in zulus heart
Siyabonga Zulu omnyama ngokusenzela lombukiso oqukethe umlando waMandebele ,kuhle lokhu sengathi ningaqhubeka nisenzele okungaphekwalokhu uma amandla ekhona ,,isizwe sethu sikhulu futhi sihle siyaziqhenya ngobuntu bethu ,,Ngeke ngithi bayedee ngzothi bayethe
Don't know why this great movie never got any popularity like the King Shaka movie
Charlton Ngwenya I wonder too my friend
It was bad
It's not a movie. it's an 8 part series called Rhodes, The Life & Legend of Cecil Rhodes. these are just clips cut from the series that involve the Ndebele. I watched the series and its very good though.
@@simbamartens7192 it's a movie just that u you are a Shona tribe you don't understand Ndebele culture
@@DADAMANism not bad hey , so do you think for Shaka was good .who made Shaka to more famous ,it was king Mzilikazi who made him be known cause he produced military skills in Shaka's army
so nice brilliant .different witty and ballanced but everything with a pinch of salt
Awu kanti amaNdebele alekhono elihle kanjeee....syabonga Mthwakazi
The way he said bloody Rhodesia ...my God
we have a rich history that needs publicity .Am proud to be part of the Zim Ndebele though our origins are in eMpumalanga Province of South Africa
KZN not mpumalanga....
You are not ndebele wena
@@gamukanjoma2479yishona zezuru lomuntu mxm
No Mpumalanga is the origins of the Southern Ndebele people of South Africa Northern Ndebele come from KwaZulu-Natal
I love this mahlabezulu
I'm proud to be a Ndebele
Your pride is justified.
so am I,budi so am I.
you should be.
HLABE ZULU ✊
South or north
Surprisingly good film.
19:38 there is jack mabaso from generations when he was young
as a Ndebele i recognize tht why Ndebele`s are like the way we are in this today`s life , i`m really proud to be a Ndebele .
we are reviving the mornachy as we speak Bayethe Silo Bulelani kaLobhengula
Am swati raised in Matabele
Its my first time seeing this movie of Ndebele kingdom I'm so excited these are our forefathers
This clip was taken from the Shaka Zulu mini series. I remember it. It used to be aired on South African tv screens years ago.
@@brightstar8859 it taken from the life of cecil rhodes not Shaka Zulu
Umagagane my grand father was leading a platoon towards masvingo in pursue of king lobengula herds of cattle when he was told to withdraw bulawayo was in flames the king has fled thts how we got rich my grand father handed some of the head to u Nduna u Malaba his uncle and kept some for himself
Ism proud of tht
This king has perfectly match his character i love it he has nail it
One thing hurts me the most about our kingdom is the fact that Ndebele people are so loyal and easily get carried away. We trust much in our word without knowing the other side. Here our warriors surrendered IZIKHALI to the whites ngomnali.
In the same Manner, ngempi YENTUMBANE ZIPRA FORCES HAD TO SURRENDER AGAIN ngobaba UNKOMO. Kungani kwanjalo?
I HATE WEAKENESS, FOR IT CURTAILS DEATH. MOREOVER, THOSE WHO FORGET THEIR HISTORICAL ENEMIES ARE BOUND TO DEATH!
. Sasilibinza, sesiyingcosana.
Remember this is the story as told by the settlers. As usual the History is correct according to who tells it. We would have a totally different story.
But we are still here mfo, history can never be what we want it to be
Amandebele ngamanguni
l love my history Ndebele like me l'm the grandson of mzilikazi kamatshobana
Proud ndebele
This is my grandmother's great great grandfather
Rhodes?
@@LurnWell lol Mzilikazi la Mashobane
@@blessingmlalazi2875 ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽... Then someone comes from greatness.. lol. To know your direct answer ancestor is amazing in itself. ..Let alone it being the King of the Zulu.
This is heartbreaking bahlala ngati.
My forefathers kodwa💖💖💖 I'm proud to be who I am
I worked in Matabeleland at Mabutweni. That is exactly why Smith decalred UDI so that the poeple of Rhodesia could all be free and one prosporous nation without England. Mugabe a Shona proved he could not rule and look at the mess today. Nkomo on his death bed said his biggest mistake was not siding with smith against Mugabes forces. The country would be different place today call it what you want but its true and everyone honest enough to admit it will agree. So sad, Oh so sad. Mzilikazi and Lobegula where friends with Rhodes, not the rebel Englishan and that is why today the Ndebele still protect their burial sites. The Shona dont care ansd use red Barrets to still hate and kill the Ndebele.
Bayede Manguni Amahle how I wish this movie could receive much recognition as the zulu one...
It would be nice to remake this film with Zimbabwean Ndebele people playing the chatacters in their own history
not Zimbabwean but Mthwakazi. Ever asked yourself why Matebeleland has its own reserve bank from way back? There is even a well documented border that separates Mthwakazi land from the inhabitants of the north, the Zimbabweans
But this is how our forefathers were speaking.
@@scanmatrix Zimbabwean.... We are all Zimbabweans.... We are recognized and proud to be Zimbabweans....
Thats a fucked up language this is matabele language not ndebele
Acted buy zulus kodwa laa bakamthwakazi
Kwaze kwamnandi ukuba ngamaHlabezulu👊🏽.
It's a good start, looking forward to more Ndebele history movies
Yes i would love to if they would make more about the south ndebele
Certainly is a great elephant and no mistake.
I wonder how the story would look like when told by the Ndebele.
Amantungwa
Proudly ndebele
The Ndebele warriors finally matched the colonial army bullet to bullet that must be at Tshangani river where major Johnson and his troops were neutralized.The movie directors made an error Lobengula's remains were never found and he didn't commit suicide.
it is important
i find some aspects of this depiction disturbing.
55:39
lobengula's fate is not known; he did not commit suicide.
his resting place is not known
Wrong. Lobengulas burial site is known by a few people. Me included. There used to be clay pots andother artefacts in the cave but now gone
@@GrumpyTinashe LIAR
@@viraljuju1 😅
There's Mzilikazi's son's grave in Rustenburg. What if it is Lubenghula's grave???
@@aarongunnz9513 the one in rustenburg is for Nkulumane mzilikazi elder son
Being a ndebele it's like to be a king or great soldier.....we are the leaders as well
I love alll the znguni
i see that most actors here are South Africans,wow
@NA Phiri 😂😂😂
Ngibuhlungu ngesenzo sabelungu kubokhokho bami 😢
I dont know why they portray lobengiula as a coward by committing suicide,
Which infact never happened,
Wanyamalala he died in a place unkown
Because those that eventually conquer re-write history to suit their own designs, and hence undermine truth, as they seek to replace that culture with their own. I, am a Cornish man of 61 years. The English took from my people our language, and replaced it with theirs. They killed and starved my people in the 1400's, they took our mineral wealth for their own. We were too few to resist them for long.They were well versed in treachery and lies and cruelty before they set sail for Africa to impose their iron hand on her peoples Tina. Such were the English that the Cornish suffered under.
I agree. The Ndebele always say, 'the king vanished.'
@@simonlaw9234 My age, has little to do with historical fact. Whether you chose to accept my comments or not matters not a jot to me.Penn kons.
@@simonlaw9234 Ha! Your learning. Take care, stay safe!
@@simonlaw9234Chons da.... radji mugrum.
The Matabele made countless raids and won two battles against the British, why didn't you show us those?
I didnt make the original. I took every single clip from the mini-series (hours and hours of it) and put them together, so we could watch the amandebele in one go. as they were the best bits, mfewethu
@@zulusite1695 ok bro. Wats the name of the series i wanna see all
Shangani/Pupu, Gadade/Bonko, Lalaphansi
you are a Tshabagu?
That makes you my brother mfewethu.My grandfather is a Tshabangu .
@@LoktionBanger "Rhodes" The life and legend of Cecil Rhodes
wow , just wow
Siyabonga inkosi yethu emaNdebeleni
Our History very proud of our forefathers....
Mzilikazi was one of Shaka Zulu indunas but for some reason he run away to the North and Shaka never tried to follow him and punish him for disobedience, Mzilikazi the Great warrior created His own Kingdom. BAYETE !!! I'm not African okay.
Some generals did try to punish him by sending warriors after him. The last group which was on his trail stopped in Botswana, hence how Zulus ended up in Botswana.
He tried to follow and was totally defeated
They clashed, not once. But Mzilikazi was always a better Military man. All his Military genius unfortunately has been credited to Shaka, since Mzilikazi for some time was under him and loyal to him. King Dingane even went after him at Transavaal and was utterly defeated. Bayethe!
@@Sibalukhululies they nv fought
They had a falling out after Shakes 3rd campaign in the north against the swazi People. This was around the time when shaka begun to transition in to a Tyrant which was exhibated when he first met the British which filed his paranoia and in the process went from a great conquerer to a mad Autocrat. And ofcourse his generals didn't want to deal with that.
We are the real Jews and the real Hebrews.
We need people who will act a movie that will put History straight.
Bayede!!!
Jews? Why Jews? Not Ndebeles?
U Mzaca omnyama ka Hlalokwane owatshay' izinkomo watshaya madoda, owawel' uTshangane wanyamalala
This series was supposed include Matebele actors, not KZN actors.....
Im sure that during this time the Ndebele were still speaking Zulu
The difference would be negligible
How come chief Magwegwe isn't featured. He was one of Lobengulas chief advisors
53:07 he appeared
If l may ask who in these characters is a true Ndebele from Mathebeleland
Singamandebele akujiki mahlabezulu
Please make a research about tswana,pedi,sotho family 🌳
Im proud of my ancestors.❤
Lento mele ifakwe kuSABC 1 so that le information izohlala ikhona njalo yaziwe
Bayethe ndabezitha
isindebele lesizulu yi language efananayo yikuthi nje thina abakulezi insuku sesithanda islang ungathola umuntu omdala owabo 1920-30s uzakuchasisela yebo amandebele koyisiwo mazulu kodwa lapho esisuka khona sisuka endaweni eyodwa lamasiko ayafana
Nice one I like it
Lols, the cow horn formation though
So nice our history
INkosi uLobhengula...Ingqungqul' emadol' abomvu ngokuguq' ezingazin' zezitha...I hate it when foreigners try to tell us how to remember our kung who they erroneously refer to as "Lobengula"
Interesting💪🏽 onwele ezibomvu 🤦🏾♀️
Well as an American I’m surprised to find the great king Lobengula depicted in film. I only just recently learned about the Ndebele. The king obviously cared for his people and was cheated by Rudd, Rhodes and many others. Lobengula is depicted very honorably in the history book diamonds, gold and war: the making of South Africa. I wish I could read more about him and his times.
Who wrote the book? I can write a book and make anyone honourable
@@livingfaith9189Actualy when there first account with the British many of the British translaters described him as no nonsense but Ultamely to much of a trusting king.
He was pragmatic in the sense he knew he couldn't do much against the British and instead chose allieing with them and giving them rights to mine in Matabele land not realising he was being cheated by Rhodes. From the Afrikaaner translaters he was a relatively kind but no nonsense semi brutal king who valued trust amongst all else.
And unlike Dingang of the Zulus he we described as a man who kept his word as respect and admiration to his father who promised the Matabele land and a Home after departing from Shakas Zulu Empire and actualy kept his word. And he was respected enough by the British they turned the cave he was buried in, sealed it off and built a memorial for him.
"When he made an oath he kept it, he was truly the Nobel savage"-Cecil Rhodes
Mina lesisthombe singinika omunye umuzwa njer kukhona okungifikelayo
Singamandebele nge mpela
it hurts seeeing them die like flies.
It was the maxim machine gun used by the whites that did that...had it been man to man, the British would have been the ones lying dead like flies
I am not ndebele but can tell these are Zulus by accent. Ndebele speakers don't have that Zulu accent of demand when speaking
By that time they spoke like that,language changes over time .
Go research my friend the ndebele language lost touch because of many languages found in Zimbabwe
you still have a lot to learn
At this time I don't think by this time the language would've changed drastically, the split from the zulus wasn't so long ago
@@xeshandlovu8084 lmao what kind of history is that? Zimbabwean Ndebele is just a mix of isiZulu and a bit of IsiXhosa and South African Ndebele is like a mix of Zulu and Sesotho Sepedi and Setswana
This is how we lost our mthwakazi land
Which language did Thompson speak with Lobengula, Ndebele or SeTswana?
IsiZulu
Rhodes' speech was hilarious lol
Interesting Sloet from Arende is now a translator. 🤣
Im proud to mguni
mthwakazi must do this again and take away land back to us
NgamaXhosa akuthi anga a actor apha klento nje lol
Ulotshe simele sithathi intambo zakhe zihambe kobritain laphaya kona kulobantu bakhe hatshi endlela yamandebele
I spotted neo mokheti and jack mabaso
U guys!! This is a Ndebele language used here, mina I m from Bulawayo thats the way we speak
😢the evil Ness of the boers....no wonder malema hates ..now I get jt
Very gud
My mum hails from Matebeleland and my dad is Manyika from Nyanga. I don't know what it is in those days ndebele women if married to Shona was mostly Manyika men
I love my ndebele side of my culture. Stand up people if ever I met one in the world
You... i been seeing your comments a lot
The Only Fighter Where Kings are Concerned it was The Zulu King Shaka, this Ndebele King gave in too easily and defeated too easily too...Really not impressed by an army that decided to be ruled by a white man and giving him the entire land mxim
This movie is incorrect..and this is so because it was not made by us...
I give it 5/10 this series was acted by South Africas y not Ndebeles and here they consider Lobengula as Cowards mxxx
You are right. They should have found Ndebele actors for this movie and portrayed Ndebeles as the warriors that we are.
Yuh they took Zulu actors instead of Ndebele
And one Ndebele that spoke Shona😂😂
From there you hear a black supporting amakhiwa/whites
Yingakhobesingapasi isindebele esikoleni besinzima kunalokho obesikukhuluma emakhaya
I am proud of being European
Yes you bloody oppressor
you demon will be proud of your deception and wickedness
Land land our land
😅Nice, that cracked me up. Sorry for the other responses. Bayethe!
Ukurojwa kwaqala kudala lamanje ukusaphila itax ibhadalwa khonale entshona every year y kungabhalwa lakithi komunye unyaka
wow the Ndebele are potrayed in a barbaric way.They came a long way i tell you
Not too far though
@@johnbaines2969 2000 miles
I find the accuracy of this film to be questionable,
1. Lobengula never Committed Suicide
2. Chief Magwegwe unga
Ulim lwethu selwaphuka kusafuneka sizame imizamu silubuyise ulimi
Bayede Bayede
Bayethe not bayede (bayethe meaning praise)
@@melanienkomo1723 kuya ngokuthi uloba ngaluphi ulimi Nkomo
@@melanienkomo1723 bayethe was started by the ndwandwe meaning balethe asibesabi to their king who was called ndlovu thas wy they say bayethe wena we ndlovu
Nailed the Shona accent
It's all wrong they decided to show only the victorys of the whites only futsek
Movie name please...
Mthwakazi not Mkhwanazi
Zulu Spears vs. White Man with guns.
Yithi abantu
the word 'ABELUNGU" I am not sure Ndebele were using that word !!
Amangisi, that's ndebele
the Ndbels called the white man " ondlebe'zkhanyi langa " ....there is a lot of distorted information in this play.
The ndebele from Zim are basically the Zulus of Mzilikazi. I'm pretty they used that word or amangisi
Of course they are using it
The Ndebele was spoken then its too different than the one is spoken now.
No reading Lobengula just signed off the whole land as you see here so why are the few real Ndebele real ones refusing the ignorance?