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  • @shaneprofio777
    @shaneprofio777 4 месяца назад +72

    As a Steelers fan, we dislike the ravens, but respect them. As for the browns, we hate them because they act like they won something when they never have. Boos are definitely louder against Cleveland.

    • @datglasstho
      @datglasstho 4 месяца назад +4

      hey, the Browns were the most dominant team in the league.... in the 50s

    • @MrBezl
      @MrBezl 3 месяца назад

      Jim Brown has something to say about this. The NFL existed before the Super Bowl.

    • @danielkim9453
      @danielkim9453 3 месяца назад +1

      I like the nicknames...
      Browns = Stains
      Ravens = Ratbirds
      Bengals = Bungles

  • @barrettanderson2781
    @barrettanderson2781 4 месяца назад +95

    The boos for the Ravens will be respectful. The boos for Cincy and Cleveland aren't. That's the best way to put it.

    • @kimochapman2009
      @kimochapman2009 4 месяца назад +4

      That encapsulates my feelings towards our divisional rivals perfectly lol 🫡

    • @vinnybobby3450
      @vinnybobby3450 4 месяца назад +5

      Bengals will get the worst boos. We respect the ravens and harbaugh. We just feel bad for the browns really it's like punching down on a toddler. But the Bungals can get fucked

    • @acgonzales7
      @acgonzales7 4 месяца назад +1

      I was going to say the same thing lol. Spot on.

    • @huntermorris7421
      @huntermorris7421 3 месяца назад

      ​@@vinnybobby3450ravens respect the steelers and Tomlin too 🤜🤛
      I disagree on the Browns though. Screw both Ohio teams

  • @markmaioli4
    @markmaioli4 4 месяца назад +55

    Biggest boos will DEFINITELY be for the Ravens, hands down.

    • @AbleAnderson
      @AbleAnderson 4 месяца назад

      I can't believe he was remotely confused by this or wondering if the Browns might get more boos. Seriously Rich? It's considered the best rivalry in football by a lot of people. I am a little surprised Rich considered this a tossup

    • @BG33917
      @BG33917 4 месяца назад

      Why no one mention Patriots ?

    • @austintaylor1378
      @austintaylor1378 4 месяца назад

      I was thinking that too just out of habit lol… it’s more fun hearted and loud but the ravens there’s actual concern about who’s drafted

    • @themack1363
      @themack1363 4 месяца назад +2

      Belicheat and Brady are gone. Pats without those 2 will go back into the dark ages.

    • @willr4880
      @willr4880 3 месяца назад

      ​@@AbleAnderson it hasn't been the best rivalry in a long time

  • @CoachZero52
    @CoachZero52 4 месяца назад +29

    Not a controversy. It’s a competition, which is good. Nothing controversial about it.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 4 месяца назад +2

      They both suck. Not much competition in that QB room

    • @CraigJacobs-wz5qs
      @CraigJacobs-wz5qs 4 месяца назад +8

      @@kiaadams104 Says the guy on the internet with no athletic ability. Another keyboard warrior with a big mouth. Go Figure

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 4 месяца назад +2

      @@kiaadams104: Neither one sucks, especially not Russ! Dude is headed to Canton!

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 4 месяца назад +2

      @@CraigJacobs-wz5qs plenty of abilities. You are also a keyboard warrior.. you attack me. Had nothing to say about my argument... probably because I'm right

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 4 месяца назад +1

      Two QBs = no QBs

  • @saw12367
    @saw12367 4 месяца назад +20

    The Russell Wilson hatred is a media phenomenon I'll never understand. Kirk Cousins is beloved by all...same draft class....1 playoff win in his entire career. Russ has been to 2 Super Bowls since Rodgers last SB appearance...even with the down Denver years, his career passer rating is still above 100. Yet, Justin Fields is better than him? The Raiders coulda traded for Fields, instead, they gave Gardner Minshew 25 million.....Hilarious...but yall want Wilson on the bench

    • @brandyc3559
      @brandyc3559 4 месяца назад +7

      This sudden love the media is showing Justin is only because of how much they do not like Russell. They want him out of the league.

    • @saw12367
      @saw12367 4 месяца назад +2

      @@brandyc3559 exactly. Perfectly stated

    • @huntermorris7421
      @huntermorris7421 4 месяца назад +5

      Russ is definitely the better QB when you look at the totality of their careers but right now the ceiling is way higher with fields. Russ's best years ended after 2019. He's still a starter but not so much better than fields that it shouldn't be a QB competition

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 4 месяца назад

      Russ definitely needs to be on the bench or learn how to see the middle of the field. He can choose

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 4 месяца назад +1

      To OP: Don’t talk like that. That’s logic, facts, and independent critical reasoning. These people don’t understand that kind of talk.

  • @davethedude216
    @davethedude216 4 месяца назад +3

    The most important player on the Steelers is TJ Watt. We’re a TJ injury away from being a 5 win team

  • @Vortex1988
    @Vortex1988 4 месяца назад +19

    Fields has said in interviews before that if he had to pick someone whose game is most similar to his, it's Russell Wilson. Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh because he has a chance to learn from and compete with his idol. It also doesn't hurt that they have a proven NFL coach in Tomlin.

    • @exllbee4820
      @exllbee4820 4 месяца назад +3

      If you actually listened to his interview he said as much. "I watch Russel and what he does and think, "I need to do that, too". Of course, he is competing. That's what you want from solid backup.

    • @Vortex1988
      @Vortex1988 4 месяца назад

      @@exllbee4820 What interview are you referencing? He's had 3 years worth of interviews in Chicago.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Vortex1988
      It was interview #23, on a Tuesday.

    • @blackbeltben2775
      @blackbeltben2775 4 месяца назад +1

      Fields said he was influenced by Newton, Wilson and Roger's

    • @blackbeltben2775
      @blackbeltben2775 4 месяца назад +1

      Lol 😅😅😅 Fields wanted to go to Pit before Wilson even got their what are you talking about...

  • @ericmeiselbach8629
    @ericmeiselbach8629 4 месяца назад +14

    Russ is starter unless injured, he’s not losing the job. Fields will have a package.

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 3 месяца назад

      *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats*
      Pass attempts: 958
      Pass completions: 578
      Completion%: 60.3%
      TD-INT: 40-30
      Passing yards: 6,674
      Passer rating: 82.3
      *Rushing yards: 2,220*
      *Rushing yards/yr: 740*
      *Rushing TDs: 14*
      *Rushing attempts: 356*
      *Rushing y/a: 6.2*
      Sacks: 135
      Sacks/yr: 45
      Yards lost: 908
      Yards lost per sack: 6.7
      Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost)
      On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost.
      __________________________________________
      *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics)*
      Pass attempts: 1,416
      Pass completions: 917
      Completion%: 64.7%
      TD-INT: 84-26
      Passing yards: 10,913
      Passer rating: 100.0
      Rushing yards: 1,327
      Rushing yards/yr: 442
      Rushing TDs: 7
      Rushing attempts: 245.25
      Rushing Y/A: 5.4
      Sacks: 131.75
      Sacks/yr: 43.9
      Yards lost: 866
      Yards lost per sack: 6.5
      Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)
      NOTE: As you can see, Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part.
      Fields takes them because he can’t read the field!
      __________________________________________
      *Russ’s Career Statistics*
      Pass attempts: 5,665
      Pass completions: 3,668
      Completion%: 64.7%
      TD-INT: 334-106
      Passing yards: 43,653
      Passer rating: 100.0
      Rushing yards: 5,307
      Rushing yards/yr: 442
      Rushing TDs: 29
      Rushing attempts: 981
      Rushing y/a: 5.4
      Sacks: 527
      Sacks/yr: 43.9
      Yards lost: 3,464
      Yards lost per sack: 6.57
      Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost)
      *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver in which both years skewed Russ’s stats downward.*
      If we were to discount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be that much better than Fields’s, and that would include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics.

  • @howardgriego2272
    @howardgriego2272 4 месяца назад +27

    Why does it have to be a controversy? It’s not a rivalry it’s a competition between teammates. Media always trying to start things with the Steelers

    • @ryu-ken
      @ryu-ken 4 месяца назад +2

      Lol fr this happens on every team. COMPETITION IS THE BREEDING GROUNDS FOR GOOD TEAMS. I feel like people that never been on a team and competed are always so outraged when there is competition

    • @hermitcrabs
      @hermitcrabs 4 месяца назад +4

      Media's just looking for stories in the off season, can't really blame them at this point of the year. But I agree with you 100% this is only a good thing for both guys, can only make them better imo. Plus they really have to see what fields has and if they wanna resign him next year, be it with 1st team in practice or on the field.

    • @howardgriego2272
      @howardgriego2272 4 месяца назад

      @@ryu-ken uhm I said controversy 😂 reading comprehension is vital 🙄

    • @kimochapman2009
      @kimochapman2009 4 месяца назад +1

      @@howardgriego2272I think he was agreeing with what you were saying actually lol, just worded it wrong 😂

    • @HP3TV
      @HP3TV 4 месяца назад +1

      Because the Media loves a controversial storyline.

  • @CeeLeft
    @CeeLeft 4 месяца назад +7

    Thank you Mr. Eisen for being the one of the few national TV Sports personality who has a positive attitude towards the Pittsburgh Steelers.
    Outside of Pat McCafee and yourself it definitely feels like there is a bias against my beloved Steelers.

    • @Gustarx
      @Gustarx 4 месяца назад +2

      Chicago guy here just hoping for the best for Fields

    • @jr.kendle7230
      @jr.kendle7230 4 месяца назад

      That’s ok, we’ll be just fine.

    • @heartmatters701
      @heartmatters701 3 месяца назад

      Ever since Terry Bradshaw beat “Americas Team”, I’ve been a fan of the Steelers. Unless the Bears play the Steelers, I will be rooting for Steelers especially with our beloved Justin Fields on the line up! Go Steelers!

  • @louischase994
    @louischase994 4 месяца назад +14

    I get the feeling rich doesn't like russ

    • @Gungho73
      @Gungho73 4 месяца назад +2

      I think he's more baffled then doesn't like him. Though Wilson has done more then his fair share to turn people against him.

    • @louischase994
      @louischase994 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Gungho73 like what

    • @Gungho73
      @Gungho73 4 месяца назад +3

      @@louischase994 Like I dunno, telling the media all the teams he'd love to be traded to but only these teams, yet change those teams while playing for a team he is currently contracted for. A fanbase doesn't tend to like you very much when you consistently talk about going anywhere else in public in such a manner.
      Complain about offensive line play quality, but never taking a deal and always taking the shorter deals to maximize profits.
      Utilized a suspiciously lower amount on his supposedly "charitable causes" on the actual causes himself.
      It's been revealed he is also not a great teammate behind closed doors, and that his persona he presents to the media is not the one he actually brings to the table. He is a player that apparently wants very much the credit to be his and to be put in positions that don't benefit the team winning games, but benefit him in terms of receiving that credit. Basically, he likes to pretend in front of the media he's a "its on me, what I could've done better" guy but behind the locker room doors he's very much not in the belief its his fault when things goes wrong, and very much his contribution when things go right.
      People in Denver got rubbed very much the wrong way when he hadn't done a damn thing but they had given him a private office in the Broncos headquarters, and while he kept a "open door" for teammates, it was very clear he was treated in an absurdly special manner. Which is also unlikely to be true as well if what his teammates like Lynch mentioned about Wilson in Seattle in short "You had to go through 'his guys' if you wanted to talk with him." That's extremely bizzare for someone who is not an executive, to treat people as if they have to get privileged to speak with him.
      None of this accounts for the fact he hasn't played well or consistently in years. People view the TD/INT ratio, but not the plays down to down that actually imply if he's a good QB. People who find the things I mentioned abrasive will double down on disliking a guy like that when you're not winning games that matter but getting paid like you do.

    • @louischase994
      @louischase994 4 месяца назад +4

      @Gungho73 not the first player to do it

    • @jamesduran3804
      @jamesduran3804 4 месяца назад +3

      A lot of people don't. He is phoney

  • @realeyesrealizereallies1194
    @realeyesrealizereallies1194 4 месяца назад +7

    We don't even consider the Browns a pro team. We respect the Ravens and are just starting to respect the Bengals.

    • @dennisbessey5161
      @dennisbessey5161 4 месяца назад +2

      I have no respect for the Bungals!

    • @camstegames8437
      @camstegames8437 3 месяца назад +3

      Ya'll haven't won a playoff game in 7 years. Let's not pretend Steelers are worth a damn lately, a bit like the Panthers saying who they "respect."

    • @newfiejesus
      @newfiejesus 3 месяца назад

      I don't respect the Bengals. Perennial paper tigers. 🐅

  • @bioLarzen
    @bioLarzen 3 месяца назад +1

    Is this stretch of the street outside the studio constantly being cleaned?

  • @rellfacts279
    @rellfacts279 4 месяца назад +9

    I’m not as optimistic about Fields as many. I’m certainly hoping he ends up being the guy in Pittsburgh but that three year stretch in Chicago definitely bothers me. I know most scream that Chicago was bad but you can’t expect me to believe it was all their fault.

    • @tajzikria5307
      @tajzikria5307 4 месяца назад +2

      Agree but their were moments where you saw his immense talent.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 4 месяца назад +1

      Fields, in my opinion, is not a championship QB. He'll give the Steelers moments, but I've seen some QB's provide moments before, and they either never reached or excelled in THE moment. I'm not giving up on him completely, largely because he played in Chicago which is notorious for QB's failing instead of excelling...but the needle is leaning in the direction of me being unconvinced that he's a NFL championship caliber QB. I'm not seeing it.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 4 месяца назад +2

      @@tajzikria5307
      Yes....but those were moments, that's the key word, and those moments tended to go POOF! in the 4th quarter for reasons I cannot begin to understand and...he reads the field (pun intended) rather poorly. He's yet to demonstrate timely decision making on a consistent basis in regards to following multiple receiver progressions, which was something guys like Brady or Mahomes do (or did) very well.
      Fields is a two-dimensional QB in a 3 dimensional game...I'm not bailing on him yet...but if he shows zero growth in the next year or two in those areas, he's done as a prospective career starter and will become a journeyman backup if he's lucky.

    • @TheMattTrakker
      @TheMattTrakker 4 месяца назад +2

      Anyone who actually watched Fields would have questions about his ability to play QB. People that just watched highlights or look at fantasy are the ones that think he's good.

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 4 месяца назад

      Exactly, people cling way too hard to occasional 'flashes', at some point has to develop into a complete player.

  • @joshuadobbs3104
    @joshuadobbs3104 4 месяца назад +37

    Non topic Russ is the guy this year until he isn't.

    • @kiaadams104
      @kiaadams104 4 месяца назад +8

      Broncos are paying 40 million dollars to NOT have Russ on the roster. Steelers some clowns

    • @mafia_dave32
      @mafia_dave32 4 месяца назад +4

      @@kiaadams104 Or ? Broncos are a joke . Myself I want them both to fail from C town .

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 4 месяца назад +1

      No lie, there were Steelers fans still trying to tell me last year Kenny Pickett was actually good 🤣😂

    • @kimochapman2009
      @kimochapman2009 4 месяца назад +1

      If Fields is outplaying Russ than I think that tomlin will start him, but he’d have to be CLEARLY better than Russ probably

    • @SneakySnake133
      @SneakySnake133 4 месяца назад +3

      @@kiaadams104yeah because the broncos make such good decisions

  • @bruceallen6377
    @bruceallen6377 4 месяца назад +10

    you don't last for 13 years in the NFL if you ain't got something special! Fields lasted three years and his greatest asset was running for his life, cheek that!

    • @alaneiler2361
      @alaneiler2361 4 месяца назад +5

      Fields was a good option if you don’t want a passing game. Don’t hate the guy but he cant see the field and is a running highlight reel at best. Fans are blaming the oline but he held the ball the longest which would lead any oline break down…..

    • @korymacdowell3881
      @korymacdowell3881 3 месяца назад

      At least he can run. Because KP8 couldn’t run or pass.

  • @jackoneill1336
    @jackoneill1336 4 месяца назад +2

    As a Steelers fan I can confirm that we hate the Ravens the most. Followed by the Bengals then finally followed by the Browns

  • @shanegiggles2108
    @shanegiggles2108 4 месяца назад +3

    As a steelers fan I respectfully dislike the Ravens. Bengals fans are the worst wishing death on players when injured see Shizers injury.
    Browns are the Browns. Random wins by them every now and then whatever.

  • @jacksonhilsabeck5976
    @jacksonhilsabeck5976 4 месяца назад +1

    Lifelong fan. The Ravens are definitely the primary rival. The Browns are a doormat

  • @CREAMDREAM412
    @CREAMDREAM412 4 месяца назад +4

    I respect the ravens and hate both bengals and browns!

  • @stevensharples286
    @stevensharples286 4 месяца назад +2

    Patrick Queen should announce at least one of our draft picks.

  • @barrettanderson2781
    @barrettanderson2781 4 месяца назад +1

    You want every young QB to have Fields' mindset.

  • @jordachejordan90
    @jordachejordan90 3 месяца назад

    What's more worrisome is what big ben says on his podcast after being in the qb rm? (Ex. Leveon, A.B.)

  • @32275005
    @32275005 4 месяца назад +5

    Making Fields sound better than he really is.

  • @disqusrubbish5467
    @disqusrubbish5467 4 месяца назад +2

    Every professional athlete is competitive. Of course he wants to compete. But...
    26 - 8 vs 16 - 9 last year...

  • @mrjustinrubin
    @mrjustinrubin 4 месяца назад +10

    Rather 2 QBs than no QBs!!!

    • @SkunkLifeMedia
      @SkunkLifeMedia 4 месяца назад +5

      if you have 2 QBs you have no QB.

    • @DWoodsII
      @DWoodsII 4 месяца назад +4

      @@SkunkLifeMedia that’s a bunch of bs. Go ask the eagles when Foles stepped in after Wentz got hurt and won SB (Wentz would’ve won league MVP)

    • @alaneiler2361
      @alaneiler2361 4 месяца назад +1

      Welp you have one QB and a direct snap back.

    • @howardgriego2272
      @howardgriego2272 4 месяца назад +2

      Can we just appreciate what we have compared to what we had? Just a thought

    • @alaneiler2361
      @alaneiler2361 4 месяца назад

      @@howardgriego2272 you have Wilson at least. Maybe Justin can run the ball for you but don’t expect him to be able to read a defense. I saw when we got Claypool from you guys…. You guys are getting a similar productivity but different position

  • @benoitwaffle5439
    @benoitwaffle5439 4 месяца назад +7

    If Fields struggled to operate two different offenses in Chicago with the focus of someone brought in at the cost of two first rounders, then why would someone think he will learn this one with fewer reps and focus from the coaching staff? Honest question, which QB who has struggled to pick up offenses and read defenses got better with less reps and focus from the coaching staff?

    • @tinman85
      @tinman85 4 месяца назад +1

      those offenses were garbage, and the same question can be asked of russ.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 4 месяца назад

      @@tinman85
      No. Not really.
      Wilson has succeeded at a level that Fields has yet to even begin to reach. Granted, questions regarding Wilson are fair, but he has at the very least a resume in which he's shown something on the biggest stage, and for a number of years he did very well at the QB position. The same cannot be said of Justin Fields.

    • @tinman85
      @tinman85 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@moonytheloony6516 its wild to me that people use +7year old tape to validate Russell Wilsons competancy as a QB. Reality of his situation is that if he was still that player, he would be with Seattle, if he was still even 80% of that player, the Broncos wouldnt be paying him 90million dollars to play elsewhere. Is Russ a better QB than Fields? Yes, probably. Is Fields a better athlete? Yes, by alot. Maybe its recency bias, but alot more current successful offenses revolve around QB mobility(even if not as an outright running threat, but through bootlegs/PA plays, or improvisational play extensions) and that was Russell's strength too, but maybe through age, or a lack of confidence, he has lost that. In my opinion, its more realistic to evaluate/compare these guys based on the last 3 years rather than pretend Russell Wilson is still a perennial pro bowler.

  • @bs6938
    @bs6938 4 месяца назад +5

    Rich sounds scattered.

  • @9ballz
    @9ballz 4 месяца назад +1

    Ask TJ if he knows with Hollsopple PA is (where I'm from)? High School is Conemaugh Township wherer I went to school with Jeff Hostetler. Not far from Altoona.

  • @mattogrady4005
    @mattogrady4005 4 месяца назад +2

    We have owned the Browns and the Ravens. Lol. And the Bengals minus a few good games by Burrow.

  • @JTAnderson-mw6wc
    @JTAnderson-mw6wc 4 месяца назад +1

    As a Steelers fan the Browns, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots, Cowboys, and Raiders will all get boos. And I might be missing some teams. Pittsburgh fans hold grudges.

  • @zeektv8435
    @zeektv8435 4 месяца назад +7

    He is saying this completely backwards.. He requests to go there before and when russ Ended up there before him. He thought that window had closed, but his agent contact him and told him that picket was out the door

    • @Gaga4Parma
      @Gaga4Parma 4 месяца назад

      The Khan Artist wasn't gonna trade for him during FA. Everyone knew the Bears were gonna trade him before the draft.
      Thank God Pickett quit on his NFL career. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @kevinward6141
    @kevinward6141 3 месяца назад

    Of course theres a package for Fields. He could line up at wr with the cheat motion can a lateral from RW and throw it. You can use him in the redzone. He could line up at RB with Warren in the slot

  • @masonwong1525
    @masonwong1525 4 месяца назад +1

    Can’t believe they didn’t bring up Steeler fans booing the Bengals that rivalry is crazy af

  • @heartmatters701
    @heartmatters701 3 месяца назад

    Good job Poles for looking out for Justin! As a Bears fan, I will be rooting for Justin to succeed without limits! Go Justin!

  • @everettcarson1473
    @everettcarson1473 3 месяца назад

    Both of them make each other better, Tomlin warned everyone that it would be a competition this year at a very high rate.

  • @emilgilels
    @emilgilels 4 месяца назад +1

    Why does a Steelers QB controversy seem inevitable??
    Because national media types who need content for their daily programs will turn it into one...

    • @PatriotWatchUSA
      @PatriotWatchUSA 4 месяца назад

      So one QB is way better than the other?

  • @shade8174
    @shade8174 3 месяца назад

    As a Steelers fan the browns not being a threat does not affect our hatred of them. The ravens being a threat as an expansion team and being an interesting team with great defense has earned our respect.

  • @MrCleonwarrior
    @MrCleonwarrior 4 месяца назад +1

    Bears screwed up not keeping Fields. That team was on the upswing

    • @jmdeck1610
      @jmdeck1610 3 месяца назад

      The Bears are in a sub par conference, much easier to get a spot.​@PatriotWatchUSA

  • @DrkStorm1
    @DrkStorm1 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm hoping Wilson and/or Fields works out. Wilson is at least a former pro bowler with a SB ring though he seemed to lack his old magic in Denver. His job to lose. Fields has tons of potential but i consider him a long shot. I've seen nothing from as of yet to make me think of him as a long term future starter.

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd1225 3 месяца назад +1

    I don’t think fields is any good at all outside of running but I love the answer

  • @paulhester489
    @paulhester489 3 месяца назад

    There is nothing about having 2 QBs that were starters last year. What is troubling is despite all the QB injuries last year teams are not securing a bona fide backup. Chicago Bears have rookie starting with no backup?

  • @Halfhyde
    @Halfhyde 4 месяца назад

    Ol' Rich is loving this story to death about Russ vs Justin.

  • @scotthuff271
    @scotthuff271 3 месяца назад

    The boos for the browns will be mocking. The Ravens boos will be hateful. You will hear the difference.

  • @aznnp77
    @aznnp77 4 месяца назад +1

    Unless Justin Fields drastically changes from his mindset in Chicago, he will never be successful. And lets be honest, people don't change. But he'll inevitalby get his chance somehow. Whether it be from injury or out of contention, or just a blowout second half. Fields has gotten better, but I still just call him a glorified running back.

  • @yurky1
    @yurky1 4 месяца назад +7

    Listen he wasnt a bust, he has potential, and show it multiple times. And other QBs have been written off and went other places and have had sucess. And you can already see a improvment im his mechanics.

    • @moonytheloony6516
      @moonytheloony6516 4 месяца назад

      He hasn't shown nearly enough to convince a critical thinker that he's a championship level QB in my opinion.
      His passing is erratic. The game appears to be too fast for him in that department and his Houdini act in the fourth quarter needs to stop immediately. That's not going to allow him to earn a starting position anywhere.

    • @yurky1
      @yurky1 4 месяца назад

      @@moonytheloony6516 he had one of the worst centers in the league last year, if we thought green or Cole was bad, please go watch that tape. And we all seen the implications that come with such bad center play, and didn't have a great running game if you take fields stats away. And after his horrendous start to the year he was greatly improved even in a offense that went completely away from his skill set. But him I'm a run 1st, play action, designed roll outs, and designed run plays for him. And I'm sure his confidence will improve as well as his pocket presence. From all the videos of him looks like his hitch is gone from his motion. I'm not sure but seeing him in a different team, and a much better offense for his skill set, why can't he improve?

    • @nnjjee1
      @nnjjee1 4 месяца назад

      Fields might end up the next Geno smith. But in 5 years. And only if he works like crazy as Geno did

    • @yurky1
      @yurky1 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nnjjee1 why 5? Brees left San Diego after a pretty bad 4 years. And was a stud immediately in NO. Geoff was great after leaving the rams. You can toss in Steve young, and Bret farve. You can name more but, 5 years until he is good? The issue is the team has alot to do with success as much as the player does. Bad system he was in wasn't ever set up for him to be the player he is.

  • @rice_frying_shrimp
    @rice_frying_shrimp 4 месяца назад

    My mom is a diehard Steelers fan. Let me tell you, she is 100% booing the Browns more than the Ravens. Might have something to do with that whole other Browns situations and the fact that she doesn't exactly hate Coach Harbaugh up in Baltimore but for her it basically goes F*ck the Browns, tolerate the Ravens, kind of dig the Bengals cause she always says Joey B is like her lost son and of course yellow and black all the way. She'd probably have gotten married in Steelers colors if that hadn't been a more conservative time...

  • @chrisayres2340
    @chrisayres2340 3 месяца назад

    if fields doesn't beat out wilson at some point, even as a steeler fan i can guarantee you 1 thing, fields will not be getting any garbage time duty due to the steelers having a huge lead, as even in victories over the last decade, the majority of the steeler victories have been 1 possession/mostly 4th quarter games(no matter the opponent), plus mike tomlin in 16 years has never coached in a game that had no playoff bearing(which i think is just an amazing accomplishment and as a REALISTIC fan of the steelers i APPRECIATE his performance in possiblly the most competitive league in ALL OF SPORTS)----"WINNING AN NFL FOOTBALL GAME ISN'T EASY"

  • @jusdesireable3224
    @jusdesireable3224 3 месяца назад

    Justin has nothing to lose and everything to gain so he has the right attitude to fight for that QB spot.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 4 месяца назад

    Look for both guys to be on the field at the same time.

  • @Gary-er3om
    @Gary-er3om 4 месяца назад

    Intelligent people recognize positioning.....and both Wilson and Fields recognize this is the best opportunity....it's a win-win for both.

  • @roberthealy3551
    @roberthealy3551 4 месяца назад

    Could he be utilized like Taysom Hill who has recorded his 10th career Reception Touchdown. Hill is the 5th player in NFL history to have at least 10 Pass TD, 10 Rec TD and 10 Rush TD in their career and he's the first since Frank Gifford in 1964.Nov 6, 2023

  • @TheMattTrakker
    @TheMattTrakker 4 месяца назад

    The difference between Caleb and JF when it comes to speaking to the media is night and day.

    • @tommybrown187
      @tommybrown187 4 месяца назад

      See how Caleb handles the media after a few bad losses

  • @t.k.1319
    @t.k.1319 4 месяца назад +1

    Justin Fields was horrible last year. There is no basis for this QB controversy other than the media really wants to have one.

  • @donk918
    @donk918 3 месяца назад

    Growing up a bengals fan I always thought Cincinnati Pittsburgh was the biggest rivalry. Steeler fans were mean at our home games

  • @AHomelessDorito
    @AHomelessDorito 4 месяца назад +6

    Jordan love and the packers proved their system is the future. Brockman will be looking back in 10 years shocked he thought it was dumb when every team has a young and veteran Star qb on the roster

  • @bruceallen6377
    @bruceallen6377 4 месяца назад +8

    Man you guys are bored! Do you really think the kid is going to play better than Russell Wilson? Don't bet on it!

    • @SkunkLifeMedia
      @SkunkLifeMedia 4 месяца назад +4

      you clearly stopped watching Russell after Seattle. dude is cheeks.

    • @donteharris5317
      @donteharris5317 4 месяца назад +1

      I’ll take that bet all day long.

    • @brandyc3559
      @brandyc3559 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@SkunkLifeMedia Wilson's statistically worst season (2022) is almost identical to Fields' best season. He is objectively a better quarterback.

    • @huntermorris7421
      @huntermorris7421 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes thats true but Wilson's lows have been horrific. I don't watch all of his games admittedly but thats mainly because the ones I did watch he was unbearably bad. Fields has at least shown flashed in the past 2 season albeit, he isn't a better QB at this point in time

    • @SkunkLifeMedia
      @SkunkLifeMedia 4 месяца назад +1

      @@brandyc3559 And that is the problem. People just look at the stats and that's it. Watch. The. Games.
      Im a Denver fan. I watched them all.
      Dude is cheeks.

  • @steelersfreak1964
    @steelersfreak1964 4 месяца назад

    All the Steeler podcasts have gone immediately to the Wilson vs.Fields topic because that discussion will garner excitement, division, and drama, which does make cash. I haven't seen a Steelers' podcast yet that breaks down both Wilson's and Field's last two years of QB tape. That would clearly show why both were discarded and available at such a low value. That, to me, isn't being completely transparent for the shake of selling either hope for cash or to sow emotional division for profit.

  • @nichfol
    @nichfol 4 месяца назад

    Why do commentators continue talking about Najee like he has been worth talking about..

  • @vinnybobby3450
    @vinnybobby3450 4 месяца назад

    I like both guys a lot and both deserve to start in the nfl. If the steelers have a losing season do they let both of them go?

  • @bryanfeather6769
    @bryanfeather6769 4 месяца назад

    Altoona here. Yup. Anout 100 miles Pittsburgh

  • @steratorefriends6596
    @steratorefriends6596 3 месяца назад

    This is the only sports show i watch when talking about teams i have no interest in

  • @_Cicero_
    @_Cicero_ 4 месяца назад

    Black & Gold since '89. The only proper answer is "We'll see."

  • @junehanzawa5165
    @junehanzawa5165 3 месяца назад

    Why didn't the Giants make a play for fields I'll never know. They now have passed him over twice. I don't like his entitled attitude, but he has loads of talent.

  • @vasquezalfred
    @vasquezalfred 3 месяца назад

    Let’s see how preseason unfolds first before talking about any of this lol because games 1-2and 3 will be basically a toss up, as in who’s the favorites towards anything in there divisions, let alone title town lol.

  • @timking-iy9jw
    @timking-iy9jw 4 месяца назад +1

    I think Goodell might get the biggest boos in Pitt.

  • @Trinison7
    @Trinison7 4 месяца назад

    Great Rich can finally bite into a real quarterback controversy outside of the Michael Penix

  • @austintaylor1378
    @austintaylor1378 4 месяца назад

    Fields won’t see the field if Russell is starting. It just throws everything off it’s much better to just keep Wilson or fields in 100% of the time. Taysum Hill was paid to do that stuff he’s the exception

  • @russellayers3408
    @russellayers3408 4 месяца назад

    My opinion the 3 best rivalries in NFL History
    Steelers vs Ravens
    Eagles vs Cowboys
    Raiders vs Chiefs

  • @scottylaub15
    @scottylaub15 4 месяца назад

    Good to hear he got where he wanted to go, but what was he supposed to say haha. “Na I’m just chillin as the backup”

  • @carlspackler1431
    @carlspackler1431 4 месяца назад

    Steeler fan here...
    I expect equal boos for Ravens and Browns. Will also partially be influenced by 2025 season results.
    Also, 2026 is my prediction for when Arch Manning enters draft. If fields and Russ do not work out, mark my words they will do everything to trade uo and draft him ehile hosting draft.

  • @tytre44
    @tytre44 3 месяца назад

    Steelers fan hate browns more. The ravens are also hated but we actually respect them.

  • @BiffTannen-d5b
    @BiffTannen-d5b 4 месяца назад +1

    If you want clicks talk about the Steelers. WHO RIDE??? WE RIDE-->GO STEELERS

  • @AbleAnderson
    @AbleAnderson 4 месяца назад

    Rich is seriously wondering if the Browns are more hated by the Steelers than the Ravens? Seriously? Maybe in 1990, but since this Browns reboot they've been a joke and the Steelers and Ravens have developed the best rivalry in football. How can Rich be remotely confused by this

  • @Jbrid78
    @Jbrid78 3 месяца назад

    Well now I have some respect for Poles. At first I thought he was a dumb for getting a bag of chips for JF, at least he did it for Fields who just got a complete shitty deal coming to Chicago

  • @allenbennett2055
    @allenbennett2055 4 месяца назад

    Even though the browns have the perception of being a blue collar team, and being the two teams that don’t have cheerleaders. We still dislike the the browns

  • @MrCommentmaster
    @MrCommentmaster 4 месяца назад

    Not sure if it’s a “Controversy”. Definitely a competition. Russ is #1 right Now, but Tomlin will certainly decide who’s better. As far as the Booos, the Steelers don’t like the Ravens But respect them. The Browns and Bengals are Hated because both act like they’re 6 time Champions. It also doesn’t matter if Ben Dominated them or not, all 3 teams play the Steelers Tough which is why the North is the Best Division in the NFL.

  • @innerspace56
    @innerspace56 4 месяца назад

    Oh dude.. You won't be visiting any Foot Lockers ever again. None of us will. That era is over.

  • @yepyep7629
    @yepyep7629 4 месяца назад

    Fields isn’t a gimmick! Quit trying to put him into stupid roles like kick returner or “wildcat” formation. If the Bears had said anything of the sort the blowback would be ridiculous

  • @bemoredobetter
    @bemoredobetter 4 месяца назад

    The Patriots would get bigger boo's than Cleveland or Cincy.

  • @jeffkadlec8264
    @jeffkadlec8264 3 месяца назад

    Steelers fans helped the Browns COME BACK!
    The RAVENS, that's my most-hated team. Can't WAIT to hear the Ravens get boo'd!!

  • @mitchellpeck3749
    @mitchellpeck3749 4 месяца назад

    As a bears fan fields should be qb1

  • @raulvito6246
    @raulvito6246 3 месяца назад

    The chances of Russell having no injuries (especially how he hangs on to the ball) during the whole season are slim to none so of course Fields will have a chance to start; this season is basically a PR Scam… the Steelers HQ is trying to prove to its aging D they are actually trying to win (instead of just beign happy to have sellout stadiums and merchandise) and at the end of the season they will decide which QB to keep

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse 4 месяца назад

    "do we go with the dim witted QB that hates to learn or do we go with the washed up QB that can't see over his O-line?"
    What a 'controversy'.

  • @ThaRealest616
    @ThaRealest616 3 месяца назад

    Thats becuase your job depends on it, Rich.

  • @alex042687
    @alex042687 4 месяца назад

    No controversy at all. Wilson can read a D, fields can't.

  • @dougmcgill0365
    @dougmcgill0365 4 месяца назад

    The Steelers picked up Russel Wilson for a washing machine ($1M). There will be absolutely no hesitation to sit down Russ for Justin.

    • @PatriotWatchUSA
      @PatriotWatchUSA 4 месяца назад

      The minute you sit Russ your season is over.

  • @Tyler-zs9il
    @Tyler-zs9il 4 месяца назад +2

    King Poles

  • @beaubellamy2999
    @beaubellamy2999 4 месяца назад

    Big Ben is the winningest QB in the history of the Browns stadium

  • @superzero4250
    @superzero4250 4 месяца назад

    Fields is the better athletic younger player, while Wilson is the better Quarterback, it’s not really a mystery. You want the more level head and experience at the helm…
    Plus in actual passing, Wilson is simply better…
    🤔

  • @broken_traumatized8168
    @broken_traumatized8168 3 месяца назад

    Dont the Patriots have 2 rookie QBs Chris

  • @hermitcrabs
    @hermitcrabs 4 месяца назад

    Good for the city getting the draft, but living 5 minutes from the city (I know it's 2 years away but I own my house so I'll be here til I die 😂) I'm not looking forward to all the tourist and congestion. Should be exciting as hell thou.

  • @MrVashsword
    @MrVashsword 4 месяца назад

    is that guy mopping outside?

  • @mrcanman20
    @mrcanman20 4 месяца назад

    tj the steelers have owned the ravens recently as well

  • @MrBezl
    @MrBezl 3 месяца назад

    Not a Steelers fan because they stole a Super Bowl from my team for buying the refs, but they should hate the ravens more. Because the ravens are the browns and the ravens at the same time. Both franchises all wrapped into one

  • @obiwonkanoli
    @obiwonkanoli 4 месяца назад

    Steelers are hoping their SB contention window just opened with Russ as QB1. If Steelers start 6-1 and look like contenders, Wilson will stay in. If they start 3-3 then Wilson has not helped open that window, and he will most likely get pushed out the door. He would then be told he can be QB2 or released. His choice.

  • @TruthNewton
    @TruthNewton 4 месяца назад +4

    Steeler fans don’t care about the browns correct. Ravens biggest rival cinci after them then pry the patriots and raiders

    • @howardgriego2272
      @howardgriego2272 4 месяца назад

      But we don’t like the Browns either just so we are clear 😂😂

  • @albertmolina1781
    @albertmolina1781 3 месяца назад

    Russ got to check his diva status.Fields has more talent and less injuries.

  • @jonnybegood14
    @jonnybegood14 4 месяца назад

    But the Browns talk with no walks. Ravens have respect

  • @jk6628
    @jk6628 4 месяца назад +3

    Don't worry the second JF plays in a game they will lose.

    • @Slick1020
      @Slick1020 4 месяца назад

      Exactly. He's not playing in the NFC anymore. AFC QBs can actually sling it.