@@deservingcomplexionm8111 I disagree. Showing their faces makes the public aware of who's a danger to them, so they'll be able to better avoid becoming their next victim. And it will surely discourage the majority of these criminals from being as brazen as they are... whereas obscurity allows them to blend in everywhere unnoticed.
@@firefox3249 Punishment via torture simply widens the parameters for government sanctioned violence in our society. Any good justice system should seek to prevent crime, protect and reabilitate. Not to simply carry out vengeance.
I'm not even sure what I said about a life sentence is a good idea. Surely locking someone up who clearly has warped morales would be even more detrimental for their involvement in society? On the other hand, if not guarenteed that they can be reabilitated, would we then choose the safest option of keeping them in prison as to objectively reduce suffering on the whole?
True sign of a wannabe gangster, same as if we went down there, and got one of them on the floor by their throat, they'd soon be crying to be released, cowards.
No point they will continue doing what they do nearly all coming out of prison do it again becuase they can get away with it chop their hands off simple as make the world a better place they causing people misery
@@twoscoops5197 It's okay if everything works fine, but you will open a funny door for the future: Just for this specific case (you are going to 7-11): Data gets hacked: If i were a robber, i would exactly know where you are and how long it will take you to get home. Data can be bought by marketing companies: I would exactly know your daily routine and on which time i can bombarde you with adds in the most efficient way to buy my crap If I work at your Health Insurance Company, i would see which bars you visit, how much alkohol you drink, how much junk food you eat, how much cigarettes you smoke - and i will raise your insurance fees. Or in the worst case: the government gets corrupt. You see, you asked a question for a quite deep topic so it's ridiculous to answer it in the youtube comment sektion. Google: "privacy why should i you care" and see for yourself if that's important for you. Do you close the door when you go to the bathroom? You have nothing to hide, but you want privacy right?
I was in a cafe in London carrying out my work with my laptop. I was sitting close to the entrance to enjoy some sunshine. The staff came and warned me not to sit there because you get robbers coming with their bikes and grabbing your laptop and fleeing. Welcome to London, a real Gotham city without a Bruce wayne.
@@keyser_söze23 Spotted another coward wimp. So you'd sit there whilst the guy walked in, took the laptop, walked out, got onto the bike and drive away?
@@baronzeegmot3801 I see you are a real tough guy. You beat anyone don't you ? The person who stole your laptop has a head start while you are still sitting.
@@tues2455 So what if I am? Then you aren't only a coward but you are also a slow coward if you can't catch him carrying the laptop, having to get on the bike, open the door, driving away etc etc.
One has to wonder just how many of these "food orders" are genuine or just a way of getting the deliverers into a certain area. It seems strange that there's always a gang waiting just around the corner.
@@ossie200 jesus i'm sorry. Maybe make a list of the places used and submit it to local police and on a web forum, so more couriers have access to it? I doubt these petty criminals are so ingenious that they don't use the same dead end twice.
That's what they do in Northern Ireland except it's for the police. They ring 999, make up a fake emergency so that police officers can end up in a certain area and then get a gang to beat them up.
I’ve never had a fake order. People have to pay by card upfront, which means personal information is passed, so would be available to the police. Of course stolen card details could be used, but why would the thieves bother when they can just wait for someone to come past.
@@aaronwalderslade Thing is though... those chavvy scumbags will and do recognise the delivery driver who was there at the time. I guess they blurred the faces simply for the delivery drivers safety. he took them to the gang so he's responsible for their exposure. or at least, that's how the gangs would see it.
@@clarted5613 technically no, because you legally have no right to the expectation of privacy on the street. If anyone can see you then you can't expect to not be on camera somewhere, just walk down any street with a shop or public facility on it and you're on CCTV
+Fabian Rudzewski They won't lmao. You can literally beat someone half to death in broad daylight and the police won't do anything, as long as you get out of there quick and fast.
+REDEX SUBZERO They won't side with migrants. It's just that in cities like London they're insanely difficult to track, hence why if you get out of an area quickly after e.g robbing a phone with a moped down an alley way switching your route every so often, it significantly minimises your chance of being caught.
And a lot of people think that Eastern Europe is dangerous. I delivered food on bicycle for 2 years in an Eastern Europe country and also delivered many times past 22:00 even in the areas we considered "dangerous" never had anything happening or once paranoid that something might happen...yet this is happening in UK..I feel for those hardworking men..
It does make your blood boil. As a biker - anybody trying to interfere with another person's bike, scooter whatever, especially as a work tool, should be shown no mercy. They should be exposed, and crushed like the recycleable waste they are.
let me borrow em first, ill make em do some chores, ill start an elderly helpline mowing yards cleaning gutters scrubbing urine bottles and bedpans they either want the ability to walk without the use of tools for disabled or they do, it's their choice
Bruh like I get why police are struggling to find these people as they do it quick and fast. But surely they could do some stings where they hide and follow fake delivery people and then arrest the youths??
Darshan Gajjar ... if 'princes' William and harry decided they fancied doing motorcycle courier work then the police would be taking a greater interest in such crimes.
Ha! i know shepherds bush well the police don't give a crap in London about crime, everyone round here knows the drug trafficking for example they supply the dealers in the same areas using the same vehicles all the time in broad day light, no point bothering with the police, they don't do a thing your just wasting your time reporting anything.
Feel for these young men , I was delivering for a big chain pizza company that was freshly entering the Houston restuarant market some seven years ago, this was In a section of downtown , and the range of delivery came into some warehouse run down sections . You had the very rich on high rises ordering , to run down old motels with families living in them . One small pizzeria down the street lost a manager in a hold up , then one of our own was held at gun point in a robber . It was this that ended that location .
+NPC #2 you too???? OMG...... COPS do NOT arrest you for having your own opinion. .. •What a Stupid thing to say• COPS ONLY arrest you when you BREAK the LAW & IM TIRED of this VICTIMHOOD thing. More WHITES get killed by cops than any other group of the United States..... WHY????? BECAUSE when you BREAK the LAW =》 you go to jail... FACTS DON'T care about your feelings..
Why are police not operating stings? Soon as it's known that the potential of a food delivery guy being undercover is the day you half this crime scene in London. Piss poor policing
the british police don't seem to be able to do that for some reason. the answer is obvious... set up stings and when the scum attacks the decoy then have a big mob of police come out of the shadows to beat the crap out of the bad guys. they only respect nastiness. being arrested in the conventional way is a joke to them.
technically it is only entrapment if the circumstances otherwise wouldn't have happened. There is no reason they couldnt give a courier an alarm button or monitor their camera feed... I say there is no reason but the reason is pretty obvious and its MONEY (due to a set of governments moving away from public services and towards privatised industry).
Because the sting would be over in 10 min and they would have spent £50k to give a 15 year old a caution, or if they are lucky he will go to court and get a fine of £100. Remember 99% of these thieves are under 18, Listen to the sentence the 17 year old guy got for acid attacking 6 men ON THE SAME DAY 10 years??? he will serve less than 5 years. In the U.S.A he would have got Life, which he deserves, right now he smoking weed and playing Xbox at the tax payers expense.
One of the big problems in the uk is the fact that when they do finally get arrested the judge makes them do community service and thats that. Tougher punishment really is needed!
This is an excellent example of why I support the jury system. While technically illegal it would be very difficult to convict a delivery driver who defended himself.
@@sabersz perhaps, but the prosecutor has to convince ordinary people that's the case. In Sweden where I live, the "jury" consists of bureaucrats who's full time job is to judge people's actions and determine if they are illegal.
As a Brazilian I should say that the violence is big in our country,and we need to improve a LOT more. But at least we do not "solve" our problems by criticizing other countries that produce the wood and a big part of the food that you use in your lifes.We solve our problems by fighting in the right side, and not by blaming someone(at least a part of us).You British say that you are "superior" but your speech is always based on "how many immigrants are responsible".
@@brunoferreiraandrade8273 I'm not British but it seems that this is Immigrant drivers are beiong attacked by Immigrant gangs. Blaming the violence on a portion of the immigrant population is accurate. Be it there or in the US countries need to screen and be more selective about who they admit. IF an immigrant becomes a criminal the ENTIRE FAMILY should be deported to give a larger disincentive to get involved in crime and gangs. You should be on a probationary status for 5-10 years before getting full citizenship.
I'm an editor and to blur people's faces is extra work, and I rule it an courtesy alloted only to protect someone from violence or threat of safety. It should be an absolute that if you blur to protect you should also not blur to inhibit someone that's violent. Even if they just threaten. If you are in public, your acts are shared publicly. The public is free to decide to allow you more privacy or not. If you commit a crime, and you are caught on camera. You should not be able to wiggle out of that. You do not deserve to be blurred if you use your privacy to continue harming others. Blurring a violent offender enables them to go free for longer, I do not understand that the law has not drawn proper lines for media to help expose perpetrators. If someone asks me to blur them, they are commanding me to spend an extra hour or two after work making sure no frame or reflection captures their likeness. If you act threatening like that, you bet I'm not going to blur you. Come tell me who you are and I'll consider it.
it opens them up to lawsuits. you cant go around claiming that someone is in an organised crime gang with 0 proof. many of these thefts could have been 1 or 2 man jobs, they could have missenterprited the actions of people etc.yes thats highly unlikely but these laws exist to stop gutter press like activites, they are there to denfend you.
desmon alan My point wasn’t about the race being the issue as they target anybody as you saw in this video but more this type of dudes doing that AND when caught using the racist trump card to find an escape.
Bike insurance companies will not insure food delivery drivers for fire or theft. 3rd party only. If their bike is stolen it is a tragedy. Can the BBC include this point in their next update please
One advantage of being an old person, nearly seventy, is the perspective it gives you. I have seen a deterioration every decade since I was in my twenties. London has gone from a great city to a shithole - I have no desire to go there ever again. I worry for my country.
how about this for a perspective? what we are seeing now is the result of dysfunction passed down and being magnified with each new generation the rot started a long time ago and has gone unchecked apart from things like head injuries, people 'learn' how to be shitty people at home and around their associates/friends. facts
@@adyp5176 a lot of the problems came with immigrants. I'm not talking here about honest, hard working immigrants, they are great and make no problems. The problem is with the uneducated, not willing to work human rubbish that comes here and expects stuff for free. They came here, started their dysfunctional families and there You go. You got streets full of them now. Good for nothing human rubbish trying to steal from You because they are too stupid to get a job. I mean they don't even want a job in the first place.
@@zejz31 look I get what you mean but half of the time the party promises to make change but never does. You can't blame the public for cutbacks and rules that the government change/implement without our consent.
Spot on. Don`t forget about grieving mom crying in front of camera. "My Derrek was a good boy, why did this happen to him. He did not mean to hurt nobaaaady"
I think that all of the dangerous postcodes and streets should receive a delivery black out. Let the residents put more pressure on the police to sort it out. It is unacceptable that hard working people, doing there best should have to work in conditions of fear.
Great idea! Of course, it goes without saying that that'll never ever happen, because the CEO would rather hire new delivery boys every hour rather than risk losing any profit whatsoever, but still, great idea!
Dumb idea. If you do that, the delivery drivers lose their jobs because but enough orders get placed for the company to make a profit through them. CEOs are upset about profits so they reduce delivery staff simple as
As a moped rider I have been involved in an attempted stealing of my bike (,in which I was saved by the police) plus unwanted attention by the police (like I'm trouble) and a sense that I'm worrying pedestrians. As a moped enthusiast for over 30 years (it's my hobby) I find this very depressing.
@@zbridgjpxupzm Thats happening to many big cities and will get only worse as the gap between rich and poor is increasing, hence the criminals are increasing too.
@@Gallic_Gabagool Because the problems have gotten worse with the influx of them. Paris and Berlin have all coincidentally had more rape instances than ever before in the past years, Britain has coincidentally had mlre violent crime and theft happen in these past years, European countries have had more instances of terrorist attacks and threats in these past few years, they've had more riots in these past few years. Wake up my guy.
@@Gallic_Gabagool it is a complex issue and there is not a single cause and effect. but mass immigration certainly is one that makes the gap between the rich and poor worse. how you ask? more immigration equals more mouths too feed and provide for, less resources for everyone, and more chaos and crimes.
they need to give the courier drivers mini silenced uzi's so they can just quickly pull it and pap pap pap pap...we have no use for any of these 'gang members' in society
Mono I swear the law is if someone is in a public area you have the right to film them, I might be wrong but I don’t think they even have to blur them for legal reasons
@@saintaliciadominica3388 The law is useless. The criminals that do this aren't getting prosecuted hard enough. The judicial system is backwards and you can't even defend yourself with anything because they've made it illegal. Yet they go around with hammers and angle grinders.
A self-imposed wall already exists around London: Extortionate property / rental values keep everyone else out, combined with the excessive commuting times involved for people to get to their "house of cards" economy jobs they are chained to in order to be able to live there. People won't move out because of their addictions to a money-centric, dog-eat-dog lifestyle. Add in to that the clear and ever present terrorist threat and it's a big no thank you from outsiders like me.
I witnessed a moped thief yesterday on my way to work at Vauxhall area. The suspect was trying to get away from people running after him and drove atleast 30mph on the pavement where people were walking. London is out of control.
@@zeeone4492 no no tweeting on the internet and upsetting someone is more bad than chasing working people with knifes and spilling acids on their body.
Someone should set up a 'bait bike', so that when a thief steals it, a pneumatic spike gets launched up through the seat and you'll have a 'thief on a pike'. They're criminals, so I don't care.
What Tactless said. Seems sensible to me to think they bought the right to use the clip off him, then blurred the watermark as to not have advertisements to private channels on the publicly funded BBC.
"I have the right for you not to record me" Yeah you know who also has rights? the person you were planning on stealing a moped from. They have a right to their own belongings that you don't. a good way that I can see that they can minimize this kind of thing is have the couriers carry some kind of personal defense OR travel in pairs if it's through a hotspot.
That's a good idea. In fact I wonder how much it costs to livery a moped. Most of the guys are self employed, it'd make it just that little bit more of a pain if the bike had "John Smith haulage" or just "Omars sandwich delivery" written down the side of it in large noticable text.
Rest of the worlds couriers are respected and welcome... As couriers not only bring food, but medicine and groceries, in fact without them Nobody would have survived long during the pandemic Such cowards...
I had a buddy who was a food courier & had the same problem, he also had done some time in prison. His self defence technique worked but ultimately made him get the sack, he said when he was inside to stop getting attacked or even getting guards to back off from you was to strip naked & coat yourself in faeces, he did this on the job & never had his bike stolen or got robbed, but the customers didn't approve of his form of DIY self defence and complained to his managers.
That would involve the police actually getting their hands dirty though. Not as good as catching people with controversial opinions on the internet between vigorous bouts of Temple Run.
Don't get too excited, knife attacks are on the rise in Warsaw. It's also 5 times smaller than London so obviously moped robberies won't be the thing anytime soon.
@@bababoey3331 yeah ik saudi arabia have no chill with things like that you steal with your left hand it gets chopped you lie tounge gets chopped you try run after commiting a crime leg gond
You surely don't know of the chavs in dagenham 30 years ago who caused a tube strike due to repeatedly throwing bricks at moving trains from railway bridges.
This is awful. Feel bad for the couriers. As with most gangs they get their strength in numbers... would be good to see one of them bump into a cage fighter posing as a courier
my heart goes to these riders...these thieves are so brazen and no regard for authority. hope justice will be served and give these riders more protection
Imagine and if they defend themselves and seriously hurt one of those scum bags the met will arrest them and claim they are the criminal. Police need to dress up as couriers and try it for themselves
In the video where they show footage of the police knocking them off their bikes they do it so they don’t get a little hurt. They should smash into them at 40mph
In regards to knocking people off their bikes, I am a biker and if you crash into a bike at even 20 mph or over there is still a very real chance you can kill the rider. Thats why I believe police should only nudge a moped thief off the scooter at low speed and in a way that causes them only to slide. Theymay get hurt but a full on impact quite easily hospitalises riders
I agree 100% because they also snatch womens bags if the victim is unlucky and gets dragged it should be attempt homicide also in the city the police needs an armed motorbike unit !!!!!
You know what i would do if i was a food delivery driver? Carry a squirty bottle of the hottest chilli sauce i could buy. Aim for the eyes. What are the police gonna do? A food delivery driver getting mugged by armed chavs in a scummy area uses a customers sauce to defend himself. If that doesn't work a thick bike chain and padlock might batter some sense into these under achievers lol.
Are you not even allowed to carry pepper spray in the UK? I knew Guns were illigal, and knives, but pepper spray? It's really common in the US. Small enough to fit in a girls purse or pocket. On keychains too. I bought my girlfriend one since we don't live in the nicest neighborhood.
Have you ever ridden a moped or motorbike? Try fumbling around in your pockets (or even better, some kind of bag) whilst wearing gloves in order to retrieve your chilli sauce and see whether none of the thieves have thrown acid in your face or hacked your arm off with a machete by the time you get it into your hand ready to actually be used.
D.W. Fear not. I believe you are still allowed to carry a nice shiny whistle. It's just the thing to strike fear into the hearts of these ferals trying to destroy your livelihood.
I am from Romania. Believe me, here I did not hear of such problems like bikes being stolen or any aggression towards food delivers. I thought London is a civilized city. Interesting how in Romania crime rate is lower than in Great Britain. :( Soo sad for people who are working and someone else is ruining their day. :(
I am with you.. but with a little bit of humor: you need to have something of interest to get it stolen... 0=) ... greetings to romania. and over here in germany i didn't know of this in london as well..
We need longer sentences for these types of crimes. For murder, it should be LIFE in prison, no matter what, for these kind of crimes, it needs to be 30 years minimum and if they harm anyone whilst stealing their bikes, which they do, then it should be an additional 10 or 20 years.
@Justin Y Good idea but these people are often wearing biker helmets so pepper spray would be useless and a taser may be difficult to use if they're wearing thick clothing. Guns would be better
House Stark don't take my word for this but I think you they have to prove it's a weeping so if you put some nails in your pocket you could say you've just put up a shelf for your mum and your going home I think
English: "You would shoot a criminal just because they wanted to steal? Are you saying you value your belongings more than a human life?!" Americans: "I'm saying they value my belongings more than their own lives, and yes I would."
It's weird lol. 7 billion people. Of course I value my things more than some random scum bag trying to take them. These things do something to improve my quality of life. What do they do for me? Outside of reduce my quality of life.
If that human life is being wasted by someone who threatens attacks steals and has no regard for you or your life, just because of their selfish gains........then yes my belongings are worth much more. Most of them carry knives for protection so you can bet they don't care about ending your life
Reality: criminals acquire guns in large numbers, they become more dangerous and mass shootings start happening (if they were legalised). The thing about right-wing Americans is that they're stupid. Critical thinking is not a thing for them.
they are afraid of black riots (like the ones happening in USA) so they jut let them be, and the Mayor considers it as normal statistics in a large city.
That was before covid, i wonder the sort of hell they are going through now with a lot more demands on deliveries and no police or members of the public around in the streets
It's disheartening to see people standing there, watching their property being taken, or their own safety being threatened and yet they can do nothing about it. If they actually defend their property or themselves, then they run the risk of being persecuted!
Some of the people behind the orders to dangerous estates should be investigated, the way those gangs are completely ready to ambush those delivery drivers makes me think they already knew a driver was coming their way.
Maybe an unpopular opinion and not sure the knock on effects long-term, but I think we need a anonymous super-hero like civilian who just silently kills these thieves off...
Not a bad idea, an arrow wound in this day and age isn't going to kill like it did from infection centenaries ago, but damn would an arrow send a message..
Add you need is just make sefl defence legal and make CRIMINAL bear all consequences of the crime. USA has man, many , many problems but on thing they got right (in some states) and that is the castle / stand your ground laws. While ago there was on major news paper article about home invasion. Two guys broke into a home where the home owner was home and shot one of the attackers dead. The other was caught and was facing charges of breaking and entering and MURDER. Because as a result of him breaking into that house the one of them was shot dead by the home owner. So the the criminals during their criminal act caused one person to be shot dead.The death was not caused by the home owner legally defending his home.
I am impressed that the BBC will share the news of the growing crime problem, But still disappointed that the BBC refuses to connect the dots to the Mayor that allowed this growth in crime.
@@lobbyskids2 boris Johnson was the mayor of London before khan. I've not looked at the statistics but I'm guessing crime didn't exactly come down under his leadership. I might be wrong though
No such thing as Crime is Zero. Armed gangs can be anything from Bats, Knives, Illegal guns still happen. Even in Australia where i am you can still get guns illegally, its just rarer to hear "shot with a gun" most of the crime is stabbed with a knife.
is pepper spray legal in the UK ?!! Or stun-guns ? not even an oversized wrench for clubbing ? This guy seems pretty big ...................overconfidence until being robbed?
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BBC scum! Defund the BBC!
@@padgecrack4018 shut up
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Cancel tv licenses.
Stop blurring out their faces; if they're "grown" enough to commit the crime, public recognition shouldn't bother them one bit.
Doing that increases the danger for everyone in the public. Just so you know.
@@deservingcomplexionm8111 I disagree.
Showing their faces makes the public aware of who's a danger to them, so they'll be able to better avoid becoming their next victim.
And it will surely discourage the majority of these criminals from being as brazen as they are... whereas obscurity allows them to blend in everywhere unnoticed.
They'd have grounds to sue, and we know how stingy the BBC are.
@@johnnygray2801 true... though some things are worth the risk I believe.
About time to amend the laws on the subject.
@@xwilly5552 I agree, 100%
Acid attacks should carry a life sentence.
Most cowardly and dangerous way to attack someone, especially to just steal from them.
@I Am Z1 Criminals deserve an acid attack. Puss
@I Am Z1 Acid attackers deserve an acid attack
Sentencing in the U.K. is shocking this is why crime is so high they do two years for stealing a bike so it’s worth the risk
@@firefox3249 Punishment via torture simply widens the parameters for government sanctioned violence in our society.
Any good justice system should seek to prevent crime, protect and reabilitate. Not to simply carry out vengeance.
I'm not even sure what I said about a life sentence is a good idea.
Surely locking someone up who clearly has warped morales would be even more detrimental for their involvement in society?
On the other hand, if not guarenteed that they can be reabilitated, would we then choose the safest option of keeping them in prison as to objectively reduce suffering on the whole?
Don't worry, the police are dealing with the people saying hurtful things online . . .
That's about 1 in 2000 of the crimes they prosecute, it's just the crime that the perps are most likely to whine about.
the other 1999 are just illegal spoon ownership without a l0icense :^)
Oi MAIT? YOU GOTTA LOICENSE FAH THAT OPINYIN? DON'T MOVE, WE'RE ON OUR WAY!
AV YOU GOT A PERMIT FOR THAT LOICENSE??
Flip a coin to see if they need to plant it first.
imagine being caught trying to steal and saying “i didn’t mean it”
True sign of a wannabe gangster, same as if we went down there, and got one of them on the floor by their throat, they'd soon be crying to be released, cowards.
Lol
Heres an idea. The police drive around dressed as food delivery drivers. Problem solved.
This comments doesn't have enough attention
There no benefit to catching criminals. They’d rather go after people breaking coronavirus laws... now there is loads of money in that! £200-£10k
@@robertrobson251981 that’s right screw the rest of us
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No point they will continue doing what they do nearly all coming out of prison do it again becuase they can get away with it chop their hands off simple as make the world a better place they causing people misery
It almost looks like the MILLIONS of cameras are not preventing theft and other criminal activitys...
you gave up your privacy for nothing, London!
Those cameras are for recording passwords and credit card security codes ;)
That's because the people on top are criminals, who go after people like Tommy who expose their crimes.
True dat
Why do you care if everyone knows that you went to 7-11 on Wednesday at 8:36pm? You're talking like a lunatic.
@@twoscoops5197 It's okay if everything works fine, but you will open a funny door for the future:
Just for this specific case (you are going to 7-11):
Data gets hacked:
If i were a robber, i would exactly know where you are and how long it will take you to get home.
Data can be bought by marketing companies:
I would exactly know your daily routine and on which time i can bombarde you with adds in the most efficient way to buy my crap
If I work at your Health Insurance Company, i would see which bars you visit, how much alkohol you drink, how much junk food you eat, how much cigarettes you smoke - and i will raise your insurance fees.
Or in the worst case: the government gets corrupt.
You see, you asked a question for a quite deep topic so it's ridiculous to answer it in the youtube comment sektion.
Google: "privacy why should i you care" and see for yourself if that's important for you.
Do you close the door when you go to the bathroom? You have nothing to hide, but you want privacy right?
I was in a cafe in London carrying out my work with my laptop. I was sitting close to the entrance to enjoy some sunshine. The staff came and warned me not to sit there because you get robbers coming with their bikes and grabbing your laptop and fleeing. Welcome to London, a real Gotham city without a Bruce wayne.
Sounds like you're just a coward wimp,
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So you have the ability to catch up to a person on a bike, Mr Tough Guy?
@@keyser_söze23 Spotted another coward wimp. So you'd sit there whilst the guy walked in, took the laptop, walked out, got onto the bike and drive away?
@@baronzeegmot3801 I see you are a real tough guy. You beat anyone don't you ?
The person who stole your laptop has a head start while you are still sitting.
@@tues2455 So what if I am? Then you aren't only a coward but you are also a slow coward if you can't catch him carrying the laptop, having to get on the bike, open the door, driving away etc etc.
One has to wonder just how many of these "food orders" are genuine or just a way of getting the deliverers into a certain area. It seems strange that there's always a gang waiting just around the corner.
Good point
Yea happened to my mate as well. They'll order food to a dead end street so they can trap you
@@ossie200 jesus i'm sorry. Maybe make a list of the places used and submit it to local police and on a web forum, so more couriers have access to it? I doubt these petty criminals are so ingenious that they don't use the same dead end twice.
That's what they do in Northern Ireland except it's for the police. They ring 999, make up a fake emergency so that police officers can end up in a certain area and then get a gang to beat them up.
I’ve never had a fake order. People have to pay by card upfront, which means personal information is passed, so would be available to the police.
Of course stolen card details could be used, but why would the thieves bother when they can just wait for someone to come past.
EXPOSE THEIR FACES!!
why sensor their faces when filming in public places is legal?!
Exactly. What a pointless exercise filming them and then painstakingly blurring out their faces
@@aaronwalderslade Thing is though... those chavvy scumbags will and do recognise the delivery driver who was there at the time. I guess they blurred the faces simply for the delivery drivers safety. he took them to the gang so he's responsible for their exposure. or at least, that's how the gangs would see it.
Michael Edwards plus it’s illegal to show someone’s face without consent they also gotta blur their face for immunity so they don’t get arrested
@@clarted5613 technically no, because you legally have no right to the expectation of privacy on the street. If anyone can see you then you can't expect to not be on camera somewhere, just walk down any street with a shop or public facility on it and you're on CCTV
@@clarted5613not in a public place unless you have asked not to be filmed.
If some couriers start to hunt these thieves and "teach" them to stop stealing, the police will arrest the couriers...
How are the police going to know who it was? Worst case scenario, you pay someone to teach them a lesson.
+Fabian Rudzewski They won't lmao. You can literally beat someone half to death in broad daylight and the police won't do anything, as long as you get out of there quick and fast.
Use acid to kill the thieves
+REDEX SUBZERO They won't side with migrants. It's just that in cities like London they're insanely difficult to track, hence why if you get out of an area quickly after e.g robbing a phone with a moped down an alley way switching your route every so often, it significantly minimises your chance of being caught.
Where's Charles Bronson when ya need em
I hate this world, you can't do anything without someone else trying to ruin it.
Derryck John = @cid attacker
-------B L M
There's alot of good in the world aswell.
@@minigrande1939 That little good can't prevent us from feeling suicidal living in this world
@@benlotus2703 B L D M
Don't
@@kel69222 B_L_M may get sta@bbby with you if you say that...
LoL
And a lot of people think that Eastern Europe is dangerous. I delivered food on bicycle for 2 years in an Eastern Europe country and also delivered many times past 22:00 even in the areas we considered "dangerous" never had anything happening or once paranoid that something might happen...yet this is happening in UK..I feel for those hardworking men..
Law should be against the criminals, stop blurring faces.
They are not the law so is not up to them to be judges
Innocent the until proven guilty as ridiculous as it sounds. This isn’t kangaroo court.
@@theactivecoconut6077 how are the people still innocent after being filmed attacking someone?
Derryck John = @cid attacker
-------B L M
@@ape_kop7311 a camera isn't a court
Meanwhile a man was just successfully prosecuted for teaching his dog to do a nazi salute as a joke.
Boon Doggle This government is a joke
@@Guuy This whole country is a joke, we need to have the police armed just like in the US
Sample Text Definitely we need to shoot these no jobless crime gangs dead
Count Dankula on RUclips.
you gotta be kidding me lmfao
I feel real sorry for these hardworking men.
Easy eat 😉
Really hahahahahaha
@@pat9532 ?
@bilelsicario8253 u think its OK for em to cycle threw red lights were all black no head gear no hi viz
@@jakeleez6945 imagine being so poor u can’t afford food 💀😹
WARNING TO ALL UK OUTSIDERS
DON'T EVER VISIT THE UK.
THE DAYS OF SAFE TOURISM THERE,
ARE GONE FOREVER!
It does make your blood boil. As a biker - anybody trying to interfere with another person's bike, scooter whatever, especially as a work tool, should be shown no mercy. They should be exposed, and crushed like the recycleable waste they are.
Just because it effects you...
I don't disagree but I could say the same about the crimes you commit.
@@sirianofmorley Are you delusional? Is accusing people of being criminals a hobby to you or something? Get your head checked
@@321findus well said
let me borrow em first, ill make em do some chores, ill start an elderly helpline mowing yards
cleaning gutters scrubbing urine bottles and bedpans
they either want the ability to walk without the use of tools for disabled
or they do, it's their choice
Called easy targets lads, you lot are victims too 😂 you couldn't stop it
Wow. BBC is finaly reporting on something real.
Any guesses why?
Lmao
Except they’re not showing the people who are doing the crime.
Of course, we don't want to 'discriminate' anyone. smh
They always have, especially back in the 80s and 90s.
Bruh like I get why police are struggling to find these people as they do it quick and fast. But surely they could do some stings where they hide and follow fake delivery people and then arrest the youths??
Darshan Gajjar ... if 'princes' William and harry decided they fancied doing motorcycle courier work then the police would be taking a greater interest in such crimes.
Entrapment is again't the law.
Ha! i know shepherds bush well the police don't give a crap in London about crime, everyone round here knows the drug trafficking for example they supply the dealers in the same areas using the same vehicles all the time in broad day light, no point bothering with the police, they don't do a thing your just wasting your time reporting anything.
Mc Rambro, are you being sarcastic or not? Just wondering, if this is true or not as I'm not too familiar with the law, just know the basics lol
it's true the police are not permitted to use entrapment to catch criminals.
Feel for these young men , I was delivering for a big chain pizza company that was freshly entering the Houston restuarant market some seven years ago, this was In a section of downtown , and the range of delivery came into some warehouse run down sections . You had the very rich on high rises ordering , to run down old motels with families living in them . One small pizzeria down the street lost a manager in a hold up , then one of our own was held at gun point in a robber . It was this that ended that location .
Don't worry! The police are hard at work... catching people with opinions they don't like!
Their owners don't like......
"Face sitting needs to be made enforceably illegal! What crime surge?"
Crazy Red..
MORE like STUPID RED..
SINCE when does a cop
arrest you for having your
own opinion???
You DUMBASS....
@@pedrogallegos9545 Would you look it up before screeching about it here? It is a very real issue.
+NPC #2
you too????
OMG......
COPS do NOT arrest you for having your own opinion. ..
•What a Stupid thing to say•
COPS ONLY arrest you
when you BREAK the LAW
& IM TIRED of this
VICTIMHOOD thing.
More WHITES get killed by
cops than any other group of the United States.....
WHY?????
BECAUSE when you BREAK
the LAW =》 you go to jail...
FACTS DON'T care
about your feelings..
Why are police not operating stings? Soon as it's known that the potential of a food delivery guy being undercover is the day you half this crime scene in London. Piss poor policing
the british police don't seem to be able to do that for some reason. the answer is obvious... set up stings and when the scum attacks the decoy then have a big mob of police come out of the shadows to beat the crap out of the bad guys. they only respect nastiness. being arrested in the conventional way is a joke to them.
@@colinglen4505 I think the entrapment laws in the UK prevent the tatic of 'stings' we need to sort out the gobshite in Westminster first.
it's against the law to set these types of traps.
technically it is only entrapment if the circumstances otherwise wouldn't have happened. There is no reason they couldnt give a courier an alarm button or monitor their camera feed... I say there is no reason but the reason is pretty obvious and its MONEY (due to a set of governments moving away from public services and towards privatised industry).
Because the sting would be over in 10 min and they would have spent £50k to give a 15 year old a caution, or if they are lucky he will go to court and get a fine of £100. Remember 99% of these thieves are under 18, Listen to the sentence the 17 year old guy got for acid attacking 6 men ON THE SAME DAY 10 years??? he will serve less than 5 years. In the U.S.A he would have got Life, which he deserves, right now he smoking weed and playing Xbox at the tax payers expense.
One of the big problems in the uk is the fact that when they do finally get arrested the judge makes them do community service and thats that. Tougher punishment really is needed!
@@baguettelauncher8839 The whole West
@@pneron2032 Nah, in America you get a ton of years, the thing is, people don’t care and keep doing these types of crimes so…
These would be armed robberies or strong-armed robberies. If they are convicted, they will do some serious time.
The judges are worse than these fools.
works in america, they have 0 organised crime...
This is an excellent example of why I support the jury system. While technically illegal it would be very difficult to convict a delivery driver who defended himself.
Look at the 24hours in police custody two wrongs. A jury convicted a guy that chased robbers whilst the robbers got let off.
You sure about that? Defending yourself means that YOURE the dangerous one to the eyes of the corrupt law.
@@sabersz perhaps, but the prosecutor has to convince ordinary people that's the case. In Sweden where I live, the "jury" consists of bureaucrats who's full time job is to judge people's actions and determine if they are illegal.
@@gabrieltomete4751 sounds quite corrupt
London needs policemen in motorcycles, a lot of them!
And under cover.
No! Thefts will steal motorcycles from them!
They need guns. Shoot anyone who is riding off.
They would have to be very small policeman or some very big motorcycles.
Some police do have undercover on motorbikes
Yeah but cat calling , wolf whistling and Royal weddings are more important for the few police to concentrate on.
We’ve got a royal mutt to be celebrating, God save the Queen.
Thank you a decent comment that actually depicts the reason for the rise in moped crime 👍
don't forget mean tweets.
Meanwhile police dealing with people on the internet who criticize immigration.
Here in America we are having the same problem. We have 7000 illegal immigrants heading our way… Thank God for President Trump. We are ready.
Couriers vs gangs = migrants vs migrants. And polices vs British. hahahaha
@@Marine_0317 Only 7000? In Germany the size of the US state of Montana there are 1 million immigrants and thousands arriving every week.
you and Crazy Redd the same person? Too many fake accounts commenting on behalf of ignorance
@@benchokwaiman I'm from England and use to live in Germany,love the place and the people
Hardworking immigrant gets attacked on duty by people who don’t want to work!
one of the most developed countries in the world but people cannot work without being mugged smh
Well that's the be expected since we know that over 50% of British people are morons...
The 1st part of your sentence is not true at all..
Hows that then mate?
Lol what world do u live in
It's the refugees mate
London turning into Brazil
lol
why, did I miss string tangas and hot chicks??
@Cesar Pires minus favelas I wouldnt mind London turning into Brasil. Oh, one (real) trait I forgot: great sense of humour and easy smiles!
As a Brazilian I should say that the violence is big in our country,and we need to improve a LOT more. But at least we do not "solve" our problems by criticizing other countries that produce the wood and a big part of the food that you use in your lifes.We solve our problems by fighting in the right side, and not by blaming someone(at least a part of us).You British say that you are "superior" but your speech is always based on "how many immigrants are responsible".
@@brunoferreiraandrade8273 I'm not British but it seems that this is Immigrant drivers are beiong attacked by Immigrant gangs. Blaming the violence on a portion of the immigrant population is accurate. Be it there or in the US countries need to screen and be more selective about who they admit. IF an immigrant becomes a criminal the ENTIRE FAMILY should be deported to give a larger disincentive to get involved in crime and gangs. You should be on a probationary status for 5-10 years before getting full citizenship.
I'm an editor and to blur people's faces is extra work, and I rule it an courtesy alloted only to protect someone from violence or threat of safety. It should be an absolute that if you blur to protect you should also not blur to inhibit someone that's violent. Even if they just threaten. If you are in public, your acts are shared publicly. The public is free to decide to allow you more privacy or not. If you commit a crime, and you are caught on camera. You should not be able to wiggle out of that. You do not deserve to be blurred if you use your privacy to continue harming others. Blurring a violent offender enables them to go free for longer, I do not understand that the law has not drawn proper lines for media to help expose perpetrators. If someone asks me to blur them, they are commanding me to spend an extra hour or two after work making sure no frame or reflection captures their likeness. If you act threatening like that, you bet I'm not going to blur you. Come tell me who you are and I'll consider it.
faxs
Love ur vids Chiszle legendary editor
And it makes you liable to be sued in most countries around the world. Not necesarily meaning succesfully, but liable either way.
it opens them up to lawsuits. you cant go around claiming that someone is in an organised crime gang with 0 proof. many of these thefts could have been 1 or 2 man jobs, they could have missenterprited the actions of people etc.yes thats highly unlikely but these laws exist to stop gutter press like activites, they are there to denfend you.
@@townazier Publishing it is where the liability is. Editors walk free pretty much every time.
"We pullout for our safety" wheyyyyhheyyy narrator knows whats up 🤣😏
And the same gang will claim that everyone is racist towards them.
Black people, Asian people, White people, all kind of people could steal anything.
0:45 please pause there
desmon alan My point wasn’t about the race being the issue as they target anybody as you saw in this video but more this type of dudes doing that AND when caught using the racist trump card to find an escape.
This world needs to wake up
desmon alan You obviously struggled with Maths at school and don't understand percentages and the meaning of the word disproportionate.
Bike insurance companies will not insure food delivery drivers for fire or theft. 3rd party only. If their bike is stolen it is a tragedy. Can the BBC include this point in their next update please
@Luke Sliminn con by insurance companies because they don't won't to lose money? Lmao, it's not insurance companies that are the problem here
Mate that is actually disgusting. Literally vomit-inducing. That was the one silver-lining I thought these drivers had.
Would be nice if the police spent less time policing twitter and facebook and more time policing our cities.
One advantage of being an old person, nearly seventy, is the perspective it gives you. I have seen a deterioration every decade since I was in my twenties. London has gone from a great city to a shithole - I have no desire to go there ever again. I worry for my country.
how about this for a perspective?
what we are seeing now is the result of dysfunction passed down and being magnified with each new generation
the rot started a long time ago and has gone unchecked
apart from things like head injuries, people 'learn' how to be shitty people at home and around their associates/friends. facts
Bob Smith old is GOLD... (:
@@adyp5176 a lot of the problems came with immigrants. I'm not talking here about honest, hard working immigrants, they are great and make no problems. The problem is with the uneducated, not willing to work human rubbish that comes here and expects stuff for free. They came here, started their dysfunctional families and there You go. You got streets full of them now. Good for nothing human rubbish trying to steal from You because they are too stupid to get a job. I mean they don't even want a job in the first place.
same here in south africa, that is what happens when low iq people take over
Bob Smith ... you're right Bob ... and I still live there. : (
As an Aussie, it's insane looking at London and what it has become. It's such a shame. Why did you let your own capital city fall into such a state?
This comment didnt age well lol
@@andrewz6986 😂yeah nobody in uk likes these kind of questions. Cowards.
@@zejz31 you can't blame citizens for laws that the government make
@@mrgoodluckuniversal5004 and who selects the government?
@@zejz31 look I get what you mean but half of the time the party promises to make change but never does. You can't blame the public for cutbacks and rules that the government change/implement without our consent.
And when these kids get stabbed by some other worthless gang member, the news is like, "he was such a good kid"
Spot on. Don`t forget about grieving mom crying in front of camera. "My Derrek was a good boy, why did this happen to him. He did not mean to hurt nobaaaady"
These clowns aint gangsters,only hard in a group
Get them by themselves and they’ll be crying to mummy
@@albertocarrilho5839 exactly 😂😂👍
someone needs to start teaching them a lesson, peacefully of course.. :D
I think that all of the dangerous postcodes and streets should receive a delivery black out. Let the residents put more pressure on the police to sort it out. It is unacceptable that hard working people, doing there best should have to work in conditions of fear.
lovingreds brilliant idea!
Great idea!
Of course, it goes without saying that that'll never ever happen, because the CEO would rather hire new delivery boys every hour rather than risk losing any profit whatsoever, but still, great idea!
Dumb idea. If you do that, the delivery drivers lose their jobs because but enough orders get placed for the company to make a profit through them. CEOs are upset about profits so they reduce delivery staff simple as
Unfortunately its not the public that dictate policy. Its people hell bent on destroying the country.
Work for? Voted for!!!!!!
I’m a takeaway courier, thankfully only in a town in Scotland. This is mad, i feel so sorry for these guys dealing with this :(
The Creepiest Of Pasta
I’m guessing you deal with white people 99% of the time ?
Aaron Turner nah he deals with Scots 😎
Ive witnessed this too many times. They should be publicly made a mockery out of. Chained to a stage while we throw rotten fruits at them.
2nd Uber battalion, 101st moped division.
Coppers are too busy following Tommy Robinson.
Well said... it’s pathetic... Tommy is a hero
well said....
incog nito, True that ✔
Framing, not just following
More concerned about somebody saying mean words than putting away real criminals
As a moped rider I have been involved in an attempted stealing of my bike (,in which I was saved by the police) plus unwanted attention by the police (like I'm trouble) and a sense that I'm worrying pedestrians. As a moped enthusiast for over 30 years (it's my hobby) I find this very depressing.
Took the BBC long enough to spend their money on real news.
I can't believe this is happening in London, I lost my interest in travel to London
Same here, London is more and more looking like a third world s*hole.
@@zbridgjpxupzm Thats happening to many big cities and will get only worse as the gap between rich and poor is increasing, hence the criminals are increasing too.
@@isthisarice exactly. But all these idiots would rather blame immigrants rather than the real cause.
@@Gallic_Gabagool Because the problems have gotten worse with the influx of them. Paris and Berlin have all coincidentally had more rape instances than ever before in the past years, Britain has coincidentally had mlre violent crime and theft happen in these past years, European countries have had more instances of terrorist attacks and threats in these past few years, they've had more riots in these past few years. Wake up my guy.
@@Gallic_Gabagool it is a complex issue and there is not a single cause and effect. but mass immigration certainly is one that makes the gap between the rich and poor worse. how you ask? more immigration equals more mouths too feed and provide for, less resources for everyone, and more chaos and crimes.
they need to give the courier drivers mini silenced uzi's so they can just quickly pull it and pap pap pap pap...we have no use for any of these 'gang members' in society
Seconded.
suppressed: not silenced 😁😁
That's how we do it in America
until a criminal becomes a courier driver and starts silencing his opps all day and night
@@FowlorTheRooster1990 that's why they make hollow point bullets
Basically a version of Brazil without guns.
Verdade
Their faces shouldn't be blurred out... In my opinion, you give up your right to privacy when you start attacking people
Mono I swear the law is if someone is in a public area you have the right to film them, I might be wrong but I don’t think they even have to blur them for legal reasons
Their faces are blurred so people with more stupidity then sense don’t go taking the law into their own hands.
Those with there faces blurred didn't appear to be committing any crime rather acting angrily in response to being filmed.
@@saintaliciadominica3388 The law is useless. The criminals that do this aren't getting prosecuted hard enough. The judicial system is backwards and you can't even defend yourself with anything because they've made it illegal. Yet they go around with hammers and angle grinders.
Breaking laws? that's alright as long as you don't say anything hurtful to people online.
Wow. I have a lot more respect for these guys now.
Derryck John = @cid attacker
-------B L M
I like their bikes and the free food they provide 😂😉 good lads Uno
Imagine acid attacking your fellow human being for a bit of cash.
I think the rest of England should go independent from London. Build a wall round London
Leon Reaper you sound stupid
A self-imposed wall already exists around London: Extortionate property / rental values keep everyone else out, combined with the excessive commuting times involved for people to get to their "house of cards" economy jobs they are chained to in
order to be able to live there. People won't move out because of their addictions to a money-centric, dog-eat-dog lifestyle.
Add in to that the clear and ever present terrorist threat and it's a big no thank you from outsiders like me.
@@adyp5176 we could atleast have england not dictated from London though. They've messed up London, they could do it to the rest of England
Leon Reaper yes
Do you know how much London financially subsidises for the rest of the country? Without London, England would be a hell of a lot poorer.
I am SO glad I live about 200 miles north of London.
I live in the country side and I’m glad of that
Enjoy it while it lasts :) give it 10 years and every rural area will be surburban hell
I witnessed a moped thief yesterday on my way to work at Vauxhall area. The suspect was trying to get away from people running after him and drove atleast 30mph on the pavement where people were walking. London is out of control.
I am from India. Even our couriers themselves cannot afford the food they bring. But, this kind of behaviour is extremely rare in India.
Ok
TIME FOR THE COURIERS TO HAVE NO MERCY!
Now I understand why Poland🇵🇱 is against immigration long live Europe
@@Sebs200 what has immigration got to do with this lmao
@@Sebs200 U stupid bro, the victim in the documentary was from abroad too
@@Sebs200 ok racist
@@swagwanpiffting8796 Not racism. Truth. A lot of people think the same. Including me. They can stay where they are with their own rules.
As long as those thieves don't tweet something nasty the police won't bother them. Stealing a bike isn't a hate crime.
Both are crimes
@@zeeone4492 no no tweeting on the internet and upsetting someone is more bad than chasing working people with knifes and spilling acids on their body.
@@zeeone4492 and yet the police care more about mean words on Twatter
blame your government and police.....
Here's an idea. Give them recognizable company vehicles
0:13 lol this is HandMuffWarrior he has his own yt channel, dudes a one-man vigilante against bike crime
Not all heroes have capes
Some hand muff
That's why im here. He said it earlier
such a ledge
This was on the BBC. Wow a glitch in the matrix.
True BBC fake news always about situation in ......
You are such a nerd, mate ;)
Someone should set up a 'bait bike', so that when a thief steals it, a pneumatic spike gets launched up through the seat and you'll have a 'thief on a pike'. They're criminals, so I don't care.
They don't want the bikes, they want their country back.
genius
There would be a spike in the BLACK hole. Did I say BLACK, what they gonna do, STEAL this comment too?
A direct reflection of government and council management
I like how they took Royal Jordanian's clip at 2:10 then had the nerve to blur his watermark.
At 7:02 is the same guy from royal jordanian's video.
Can he do something about it? Copyright laws and all that? Don't understand how it works. Or would they had to have asked his permission d'ya think?
Maybe they licensed it from him ? Why not ask him
What Tactless said. Seems sensible to me to think they bought the right to use the clip off him, then blurred the watermark as to not have advertisements to private channels on the publicly funded BBC.
How dare you BBC
"I have the right for you not to record me"
Yeah you know who also has rights? the person you were planning on stealing a moped from. They have a right to their own belongings that you don't.
a good way that I can see that they can minimize this kind of thing is have the couriers carry some kind of personal defense OR travel in pairs if it's through a hotspot.
Couriers should spray paint their bikes in bright crazy colour combos (pink, yellow, orange) to deter thieves
Won’t work. Criminals need mopeds for one crime and move on
That's a good idea. In fact I wonder how much it costs to livery a moped. Most of the guys are self employed, it'd make it just that little bit more of a pain if the bike had "John Smith haulage" or just "Omars sandwich delivery" written down the side of it in large noticable text.
Won't work. If it can be sprayed pink it can also be sprayed black.
Won't work.The thief will just paint black over it.
Harder to escape though
Rest of the worlds couriers are respected and welcome... As couriers not only bring food, but medicine and groceries, in fact without them Nobody would have survived long during the pandemic
Such cowards...
Picking on the hard working at minimum wage, for shame!
Don’t worry the police are dealing with people who say things they don’t like online
how do ya know the gangs aren't placing the order then trapping them along the route ?
They are, it was clearly suggested in the video
I had a buddy who was a food courier & had the same problem, he also had done some time in prison. His self defence technique worked but ultimately made him get the sack, he said when he was inside to stop getting attacked or even getting guards to back off from you was to strip naked & coat yourself in faeces, he did this on the job & never had his bike stolen or got robbed, but the customers didn't approve of his form of DIY self defence and complained to his managers.
The "GG Allin"
The police are too busy monitoring twitter
Tom Jardine I swear
Why don't the police work as undercover food couriers on the mopeds? Then when the gangs attack, they have a nasty surprise.
But then they also might get caught, and the police don't want that.
That would involve the police actually getting their hands dirty though.
Not as good as catching people with controversial opinions on the internet between vigorous bouts of Temple Run.
How happy Im that I came back to Poland ,this is unthinkable here
🤔
Don't get too excited, knife attacks are on the rise in Warsaw. It's also 5 times smaller than London so obviously moped robberies won't be the thing anytime soon.
In Saudi Arabia they chop thieves hands off..... just giving ideas
@@bababoey3331 yeah ik saudi arabia have no chill with things like that you steal with your left hand it gets chopped you lie tounge gets chopped you try run after commiting a crime leg gond
@@shane3902 i thought it was cruel but the more I researched why they do it the more it made sense
I bet a whole crusade was made to deliver my £6 McDonald’s order
Who would belive 20 years ago that acid attacks would be part of British "culture"
John George Haigh
@Tracy Williams enoch powell
You surely don't know of the chavs in dagenham 30 years ago who caused a tube strike due to repeatedly throwing bricks at moving trains from railway bridges.
@@saadselkent367 What made you think we didn't know that?
@@stephenmurray2851 he said 20 years ago this wasn't happening, but this type of thuggery was always associated with the area
This is awful. Feel bad for the couriers. As with most gangs they get their strength in numbers... would be good to see one of them bump into a cage fighter posing as a courier
my heart goes to these riders...these thieves are so brazen and no regard for authority. hope justice will be served and give these riders more protection
Imagine and if they defend themselves and seriously hurt one of those scum bags the met will arrest them and claim they are the criminal. Police need to dress up as couriers and try it for themselves
Don't care whatever is brutal enough to stop these scumbags !!!!
In the video where they show footage of the police knocking them off their bikes they do it so they don’t get a little hurt. They should smash into them at 40mph
Warren Francis 60mph.
No
They should not do that
Not 40 mph
Police should never crash a biker with a car at that speed
70 miles per hour, that's more like it
In regards to knocking people off their bikes, I am a biker and if you crash into a bike at even 20 mph or over there is still a very real chance you can kill the rider. Thats why I believe police should only nudge a moped thief off the scooter at low speed and in a way that causes them only to slide. Theymay get hurt but a full on impact quite easily hospitalises riders
I agree 100% because they also snatch womens bags if the victim is unlucky and gets dragged it should be attempt homicide also in the city the police needs an armed motorbike unit !!!!!
Matt Gent - they're not considered riders in the public's eyes . They are thieves riding bikes . Knock them off then reverse and hit them again .
You know what i would do if i was a food delivery driver? Carry a squirty bottle of the hottest chilli sauce i could buy. Aim for the eyes. What are the police gonna do? A food delivery driver getting mugged by armed chavs in a scummy area uses a customers sauce to defend himself. If that doesn't work a thick bike chain and padlock might batter some sense into these under achievers lol.
Superb idea!!!! excellent alibi as well!!!
some are wearing helmets though
Are you not even allowed to carry pepper spray in the UK? I knew Guns were illigal, and knives, but pepper spray? It's really common in the US. Small enough to fit in a girls purse or pocket. On keychains too. I bought my girlfriend one since we don't live in the nicest neighborhood.
Have you ever ridden a moped or motorbike? Try fumbling around in your pockets (or even better, some kind of bag) whilst wearing gloves in order to retrieve your chilli sauce and see whether none of the thieves have thrown acid in your face or hacked your arm off with a machete by the time you get it into your hand ready to actually be used.
D.W.
Fear not. I believe you are still allowed to carry a nice shiny whistle.
It's just the thing to strike fear into the hearts of these ferals trying to destroy your livelihood.
I am from Romania. Believe me, here I did not hear of such problems like bikes being stolen or any aggression towards food delivers. I thought London is a civilized city. Interesting how in Romania crime rate is lower than in Great Britain. :( Soo sad for people who are working and someone else is ruining their day. :(
Is it your opinion or based on real data? You shouldn’t underestimate corruption in Romania. No offense …
I am with you.. but with a little bit of humor: you need to have something of interest to get it stolen... 0=) ... greetings to romania. and over here in germany i didn't know of this in london as well..
Hahahhaha and u believe corruption is not a problem in the uk!? Hahahaha naive lil boi
@@0neangrypanda I didn’t say that.
London is africa now. a multicultural shithole. nothing to do with romania
We need longer sentences for these types of crimes. For murder, it should be LIFE in prison, no matter what, for these kind of crimes, it needs to be 30 years minimum and if they harm anyone whilst stealing their bikes, which they do, then it should be an additional 10 or 20 years.
Meanwhile you are welcoming thousands of immigrants every month from the Middle East and Africa. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
I can't believe we have opened our gates to the horde...
I can´t believe people with a judgement as immature and uniformed as yours actually own a computer and have access to the internet
What right wing nonsense have you been reading hahahaha
Baked, you do realise that this gangsta wannabe youth was born here in the UK, right?
@@hubbletelescope1721 from immigrant parents , yes
@@hubbletelescope1721 from immigrant parents , yes
When your law abiding citizen cant defend themselves because of government.
@Justin Y Good idea but these people are often wearing biker helmets so pepper spray would be useless and a taser may be difficult to use if they're wearing thick clothing. Guns would be better
lets go full usa carry ak-47s and when we get depressed shoot up a school
DJPigeon exactly I'd like to see a helmet and a mask stop a 45acp
House Stark don't take my word for this but I think you they have to prove it's a weeping so if you put some nails in your pocket you could say you've just put up a shelf for your mum and your going home I think
Yes because making guns legal and easier to acquire would fix the rise in crime 🤣
English: "You would shoot a criminal just because they wanted to steal? Are you saying you value your belongings more than a human life?!"
Americans: "I'm saying they value my belongings more than their own lives, and yes I would."
It's weird lol. 7 billion people. Of course I value my things more than some random scum bag trying to take them. These things do something to improve my quality of life. What do they do for me? Outside of reduce my quality of life.
Americans shoot just anyone.. even the crazy ones are in possession of guns..
If that human life is being wasted by someone who threatens attacks steals and has no regard for you or your life, just because of their selfish gains........then yes my belongings are worth much more.
Most of them carry knives for protection so you can bet they don't care about ending your life
Based
Reality: criminals acquire guns in large numbers, they become more dangerous and mass shootings start happening (if they were legalised). The thing about right-wing Americans is that they're stupid. Critical thinking is not a thing for them.
Living in Brazil, this happens with an absurdly higher frequency here, but most of the time the thieves have firearms.
Londoners complaining about paradise, they have no idea about South America 🤣🤣
"youths"
Yeah this is BBC code for black immigrants
3:48 ok, Laurence.
Sean. A lol the one white person. Probably from Poland.
If you need my bike , take it .Drive safe and return back please .Lets be friends ,don't sell my bike for those stupid drugs .
Yoofs
Plain Clothes Police! Sting operations. Tracking devices.
they are afraid of black riots (like the ones happening in USA) so they jut let them be, and the Mayor considers it as normal statistics in a large city.
@@artistadrtm whats that got to do with the video and the comment
Here in eastern Europe they would get their faces broken for such behaviour, no matter the colour, we dont discriminate, thief is a thief.
B Elder, more severe prison sentences to deter this crime of this nature.
Good ideas
That was before covid, i wonder the sort of hell they are going through now with a lot more demands on deliveries and no police or members of the public around in the streets
totally agree with the comments below, you shouldn't be blurring the faces of these animals.
they don't deserve anonymity.
It's disheartening to see people standing there, watching their property being taken, or their own safety being threatened and yet they can do nothing about it. If they actually defend their property or themselves, then they run the risk of being persecuted!
Some of the people behind the orders to dangerous estates should be investigated, the way those gangs are completely ready to ambush those delivery drivers makes me think they already knew a driver was coming their way.
Good point !
Almost like they made the order...?
Maybe an unpopular opinion and not sure the knock on effects long-term, but I think we need a anonymous super-hero like civilian who just silently kills these thieves off...
Somebody needs to take archery and fighting lessons and become "The Hood" (or Arrow) xD
Not a bad idea, an arrow wound in this day and age isn't going to kill like it did from infection centenaries ago, but damn would an arrow send a message..
Maybe they could take some hatchet throwing lessons too
Add you need is just make sefl defence legal and make CRIMINAL bear all consequences of the crime.
USA has man, many , many problems but on thing they got right (in some states) and that is the castle / stand your ground laws.
While ago there was on major news paper article about home invasion. Two guys broke into a home where the home owner was home and shot one of the attackers dead. The other was caught and was facing charges of breaking and entering and MURDER.
Because as a result of him breaking into that house the one of them was shot dead by the home owner. So the the criminals during their criminal act caused one person to be shot dead.The death was not caused by the home owner legally defending his home.
LOL was thinking the same thing. Kept picturing the Green Arrow knocking them off there bikes
The real crime here is the cold ass food that arrives at your door.
I am impressed that the BBC will share the news of the growing crime problem, But still disappointed that the BBC refuses to connect the dots to the Mayor that allowed this growth in crime.
Boris Johnson then. I'm guessing crime grew under him as well
yes Sadiq's been busy commenting on twitter ablut Trump
@@lobbyskids2 boris Johnson was the mayor of London before khan. I've not looked at the statistics but I'm guessing crime didn't exactly come down under his leadership. I might be wrong though
Armed gangs? But I thought guns are illegal in the UK and crime is zero. Wonder what would happen if the guy on the bike had a firearm
No such thing as Crime is Zero.
Armed gangs can be anything from Bats, Knives, Illegal guns still happen.
Even in Australia where i am you can still get guns illegally, its just rarer to hear "shot with a gun" most of the crime is stabbed with a knife.
is pepper spray legal in the UK ?!! Or stun-guns ? not even an oversized wrench for clubbing ?
This guy seems pretty big ...................overconfidence until being robbed?
@@fabioarrua Nope. All would get you arrested. The UK government doesn't like the idea of us defending ourselves.
He'd have been shot long ago.
@@gonzomuse Getting beaten to death is so much better