Slavery in the Old Testament (Speech)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- This is a speech I wrote for the last day of the semester!
We got to write about anything in the Old Testament of the Bible, so I chose slavery.
Hope y'all enjoy (and forgive the pajamas lol)!
this was very informal, if you couldn't tell 😅
What do y'all think?
THIS IS SO COOOOLLL
Thanks for the video! Some great points to consider :)
P.s dont worry about cygnusustus in the comments let him be an angry atheist internet warrior
Thank you for this video. I hope you make more. I am reminded of what Job said in Job 31:13-15
"If I have denied justice to any of my servants, whether male or female, when they had a grievance against me, what will I do when God confronts me? What will I answer when called to account? Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same One form us both within our mothers?"
This also highlights what the Law says about loving your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:30-31
Nope. The Bible does not expressly forbid child slavery. In fact, children could be born into slavery.
Good job, Sophie - dbunyan6
I would love to debate you on this topic. Friendly and respectful debate.
I would love that, but my parents would not 😅
Is this is school? There ain’t no way my school would let me say any of this lol😂 anyways, it is a very put together and informative speech! Great job
Dis be homeschool classical Christian Co-op.
I highly doubt I could give this speech in any public school, seeing as they generally don't offer theology as a class 😁
@@OppressedPotato oh that makes sense lol
Can you please tell me what happened to non hebrew slaves in the bible ?
Non Hebrew slaves were slaves for life, although their families could buy them back. Pretty much the exact same laws for protection and benefits applied, the only difference is that foreigners were not freed every seventh year like the Israelites. This is like how charging interest is forbidden towards other Israelites, but not towards foreigners. ❤️
@@OppressedPotato There was no protection there. Their children were slaves and a newborns were slaves, and this went on for generation after generation after generation.
These people were slaves for life. Can your christian mind even comprehend that ?
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.
It amazes me at what great length's christians will go To In order to protect there immorl god of the bible.
Whether you feel it is immoral or not doesn't matter? Because your moral values have been handed over to your god to decide for you. How fcking sad is that.
Please do not show me a heart as you have no clue what that means.
@@Bugsy0333 my morality comes from God. Yours comes from what, your feelings? At least mine has a standard
Hey i see that you play minecraft and wanted to ask if your down for a minecraft game i need more friends for minecraft so just wanted to ask if your up for it
Dude I totally wish I could!!! Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to play online. However, if you're still down to play in late April, I gotchu 😂
Gotta get the age of majority first 😂
I said my age but for some reason I think youtube keeps deleteting my comment or idk if ur deleting it but im trying to tell you my age but I don't think youtube is letting me
@@sedayda I'm not deleting it. RUclips has some weird rules sometimes 😂. It will delete links and sometimes if it finds your comment offensive, it'll delete that. Idk why honestly, the comment bot need a rehaul
"Old Testament slavery was almost always indentured servitude."
Where did you get that "almost always"? Do you have actual statistics on this?
No, of course you don't.
The Bible condones and commands chattel slavery.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work without wages"
Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 precisely describes chattel slavery:
"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
If you look at the way the Bible defines slavery, you'll find it does not meet your definition for chattel slavery. Slaves were given wages and rights under law, such as the ability to sue for mistreatment, and any town they escaped to was obligated by law to receive them with open arms and not return them to their owners.
Masters were also seen as not owning their slaves totally. If a master so much as knocked a tooth out, the slave instantly goes free
@@OppressedPotato
"If you look at the way the Bible defines slavery, you'll find it does not meet your definition for chattel slavery. "
Child, I QUOTED Leviticus 25. Here it is again:
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work without wages"
Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Those are not "my" definitions of chattel slavery. Those are dictionary definitions.
Leviticus 25 precisely describes chattel slavery:
"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
"Slaves were given wages and rights under law"
Again, that only applied to Hebrew indentured servants. Foreign slaves had no rights.
"any town they escaped to was obligated by law to receive them with open arms and not return them to their owners. "
And head you read the context of that verse, it applied only to slaves escaping from enemy nations. NOT to the slaves of Hebrews.
"Masters were also seen as not owning their slaves totally. If a master so much as knocked a tooth out, the slave instantly goes free"
Again, that only applied to Hebrew slaves. Read Exodus 21:2.
"All of the nations that God told the Israelites to conquer were generally involved in horrible practices like infant sacrifice or random murdering of the Israelites."
The Israelites also practiced infant sacrifice, and randomly (systematically!) killed their neighbors.
Could you quote the Bible for that please? Thanks!
@@OppressedPotato
Solomon constructed an altar to Molech in 1 Kings 11:7
"Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
In 2 Kings 23:10, King Josiah destroys a Hebrew Molech altar.
"And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech."
In 2 Kings 16: 2-4, King Ahaz sacrifices his own child by fire.
"Twenty years old was Ahaz when he began to reign, and reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem, and did not that which was right in the sight of the Lord his God, like David his father.
But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the Lord cast out from before the children of Israel.
And he sacrificed and burnt incense in the high places, and on the hills, and under every green tree."
@@OppressedPotato
Abraham was prepared, seemingly without hesitation or question, to sacrifice Isaac by fire.
Genesis 22: 6-7 "And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together. And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?"
Isaac's sparing at the last minute may be a later addition. In classical Rabbinic literature Isaac's sacrifice is complete, and his ashes are scattered on a mountain. In verse 29 it is mentioned that Abraham returns to Beersheba, without mentioning Isaac.
@@OppressedPotato
Jephthah sacrificed his daughter to Yahweh by fire, without any godly rebuke.
Judges 11:
29 Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.
30 And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the Lord, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
31 Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
32 So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the Lord delivered them into his hands.
33 And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
34 And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
35 And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.
36 And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the Lord hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
37 And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
38 And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man.
@@OppressedPotato
The Israelites routinely sacrificed child captives.
Numbers 31: 17-19
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
Genocide, slavery, infanticide, and rape. All supposedly commanded by your God.
Consequence of liberalism. You condemn what your pious ancesters did and lie on them.
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Nice Knowles quote, but I'm explaining how the Bible is good
How is that a consequence of liberalism? Seems to be a more common trait among conservatives.
@@cygnusustus they seem to be referring to things such as the liberal idea of spitting on people like Columbus, but I'm confused how that applies to anything I said 😂
@@OppressedPotato
If you're talking about the liberal idea of holding people accountable for their actions, such as Columbus' spitting on native Americans, then I'll gladly own that. Just as I hold the Bible accountable for condoning slavery.
@@OppressedPotato
" I'm confused how that applies to anything I said"
mufihoon seems to just be playing the "own the libs" game.
"If God had said nothing about slavery, the Israelites would have been free to buy, sell, and treat slaves horribly."
Which is exactly what they did.
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit was bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
Also, Israelite slavery was "race-based". Laws protecting those of the Hebrew race did not apply to non-Hebrews.
You need to look at it more closely, and more objectively.
If you notice, in my speech I quote the Bible directly. If you bother to read the actual words in the Bible, you might be better informed on this issue ❤️
If you notice I addressed that. Foreign slaves still had all of the protections applied to Israelites slaves, such as the ability to sue owners for mistreatment and earning a wage.
They were slaves for life, but recall that these were voluntary servantships. The only chattel type slaves were prisoners of war, who were still treated according to the laws I quoted. And again as I noted, the only nations God ordered the Israelites to conquer were involved in horrific practices.
Interestingly enough, whenever Israel began to share those practices, of infant sacrifice or such, God allowed another nation to conquer and enslave them.
@@OppressedPotato
I can quote the words of the Bible too, if you will bother to actually read them.
Leviticus 25 precisely describes chattel slavery:
"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." ❤❤
@@cygnusustus exactly. As I mentioned in my speech, which you seemed to have not listened very carefully to, that passage is referring to slaves the Israelites ALREADY held. Also, again, note that slavery was rampant in the region. If God had said nothing, the Israelites could have treated slaves like Egypt did - with severe abuse.
@@OppressedPotato
"As I mentioned in my speech, which you seemed to have not listened very carefully to, that passage is referring to slaves the Israelites ALREADY held. "
And that makes it different because.....?
"Also, again, note that slavery was rampant in the region. If God had said nothing, the Israelites could have treated slaves like Egypt did - with severe abuse."
That's an excuse. In fact, some of the regions around Israel had more lenient laws regarding the treatment of slaves.
And the Israelites DID treat slaves with severs abuse. Exodus 21 details the types of abuse that could be inflicted on Hebrew bondservants, and the Leviticus 25 allows the Israelites to treat foreign slaves even more harshly.
In fact, there were no law protecting foreign slaves from harsh treatment. Every verse in the Old Testament which specifically refers to foreign slaves does so in order to deny them protections afforded to Hebrew slaves.
I you had done your research, you'd know this.
Sorry, but you get an "F" for this assignment. You applied no critical thought.
It's an informative speech. I'm simply conveying information.
@@OppressedPotato
You provided misinformation, since you did not critically research the subject.
The Bible specifically condones chattel slavery.
@@cygnusustus alright darling. I'm sorry you haven't read the Bible carefully enough to understand this topic, but please feel free to continue making yourself look ignorant. No skin of my back.
However, if you continue to spam rampantly, I am going to block you from this channel. Please contain it into one comment line.
Thank you
@@OppressedPotato
I understand the Bible much better than you, child, and I am trying to save you from the ignorance with which you have been brainwashed.
"However, if you continue to spam rampantly, I am going to block you from this channel."
I'm not spamming, but feel free to run away whenever you realize you cannot defend your faith.
It's amazing how uninformed you are. You did this as a research project?
I urge you to read Dr, Josh Bowen's book "Did the Old Testament Endorse Slavery?". Dr. Bowen holds a PhD in Ancient Near East studies.
Anyone who claims the Old Testament does not support slavery needs a history lesson, and needs a Bible lesson.
I did read it! I found it rather amusing to be honest
@@OppressedPotato
What did you find amusing about it? He's a recognized scholar who cites his sources and also cites other scholarly research. So I'm truly interested in what you took issue with, because obviously you ignored everything in his book.
@@OppressedPotato
The fact that you read Dr. Bowen's book and style told all these lies only makes them more shameless.
@@cygnusustus riiiight
Have a nice day sir
@@OppressedPotato
You too.
I hope someday you will be open to learning the truth.