Square Footage on PUFFIN
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- How do you compare square footage in and on a boat with square footage in a house?
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PUFFIN is a 67 foot steel hull Jongert ketch, built in Holland in 1978. She has crossed the Atlantic at least 5 times and is now our home. Follow us through the challenges and triumphs of living the dream!
This is an excellent video...I enjoyed every moment of it! Not only is Puffin an amazing boat...you are an incredible presenter. Thank you for taking something like square footage and putting it in a way that relates to a boat. So many people think that us boaters live in cramped space but, heck, our living room is often a 360 degrees of sea. And in actuality our rooms might be smaller than an average house size but we have the freedom and space of the whole world!!! Can't get that in a house - eh?!
Kim, you are on point! And your house won't take you to the Bahamas!
It may not be a house but it can certainly be a home.
alaskanalain, right you are!
Thanks Brad! Like a few have said watching you’re lack of arrogance is a blessed change from a lot of videos. I’m about to start my own journey and I hope to continue that trait!
Thanks for watching! Have fun!
Just found Puffin today. This one of the best narrated and presented sailing channels on YT. Nice to listen to someone who knows how to use the English language without all the UMMS and ERRS. :-) Sad to hear you are selling up. I hope you are getting another boat and will continue with the videos. Fair winds & regards from the UK
Gary, Thanks for watching! It is my knees and back that are forcing the sale (the Army was kind of rough on me!). But selling takes awhile, so I will have a few more posts before I move on to the next dream. If you follow Sailing Britican (and they are a hoot!), they are my slip neighbors here in Charleston. Kim tutored me on the video presentation, so I have her to thank.
This is one of the most intelligently narrated videos I have seen, I enjoyed watching this, great job man. You have a lovely boat there, continue to take good care of her.
Excellent video. This is exactly the kind of explanation to use for someone who wants to explain or really have an idea of what your living space is really like aboard a boat. I especially liked your closing comment, "My house will take me to Europe or the Caribbean, will yours?"
Great video. Beautiful boat!
Dave,
Thanks! I am just starting out at this Facebook Blog thing, so please excuse the many mistakes you see in the post.
Outstanding video, beautiful yacht.
Mike,
Thanks! As you might have picked up from other videos, I have her up for sale (bad health).
Beautiful yacht. Excellent video. Thanks
Thanks Brad. Puffin is a beautiful boat! All the best and fair winds to you. Tod
This is an inspiration.
I look forward to more videos about everyday life on a boat like this.
Love the practicle and strait forward way you present you beautiful ship!
Super interesting Brad. Thank you for the tour of Puffin. I really like your videos.
SV Satoshi,
Again, thanks! I am in the midst of doing one on creating an inexpensive snubber line to use at dock or anchor.
Beautiful boat. Good vid!
What an amazing boat!
Really super informative video great share 👍👍
Excellent!
Amazing video...
love the vids. keep it up
That boat is frigging huge.!
Michael, Yeah, but it sure does make a dandy house! Thanks for watching!
Nice boat, I'm enjoying your channel
Kykyzim24, Thanks for watching!
Great channel. Thanks. Hope you'll continue.
How many people do you need to sail on Puffin? Can 2 people handle it?
Very intelligent and well thought out presentation. Also an interesting presentation of SV Puffin itself. I admire your fixed camera position, though it may not allow you as much exposure from panning the space outside the static frame it does give a professional feel with its stability. Very interesting and enjoyable watch. Thanks.
PS... came by your channel through Kim's link.
oceandrew, Thanks for watching! I had an ordinary camera; 5MP I think, and got one of those cheap tripods at Walmart. My big challenge is the wind screwing up the audio!
Many professionals use a furry sleeve called a deadcat. There is another option, foam can be placed on the microphone to reduce wind noise. All the sailing video bloggers use them. It makes watching sailing vlogs much more enjoyable. Mind you we do like to hear the birds and water lapping at the boat so you don't want to take out too much. Cheers!
Jessica, Sound advice. Now all I have to do is figure out how to attach the link. Ha!
Noticed that you haven't posted in 2 years. Are you still on RUclips? Really nice mono there. My heart prefers a mono, I must confess
Joker, Although I have not posted in 2 years, and currently live in Colorado, I still answer the mail from time to time. Thanks for asking! Puffin has apparently fallen on hard times. I sold her to a movie company, but the delivery skipper (con man?) blew the engines next to a bar in Florida. Did other damage and vandalism, too. The movie company dumped her cheap to a German fellow who wanted to bring her back up to par. Heard from the USCG several weeks ago that they had to air evac three people off of her in the Gulf Stream. She was later found adrift near Port Canaveral and towed in by Towboat US. She was then 'stolen' from Towboat US and is wherabouts unknown.
your vids were great...hope you are welll and wish you only the best and damn that is some size boat. Also, your knowledge, interest, simple explanation is fantastic.....you are lacking the arrogance of many boat guys....I could only hope to be that humble,.....arrrrrrr pirate
Dave, Ha! I may not be sailing at present, but I kept the pirate outfit :). Also, since a guy needs a hobby, I just built myself a flintlock pistol (the kind any self respecting pirate would be proud of)! Have not shot it yet, but up here in Colorado, I wont have to go far to find a place.
I actually like this One had some good info things I never would have thought of, I'm gonna watch a few more and see. Nice though..
Puffin is amazing.
caxcallatik, Thank you! She's for sale.....
I don’t think anyone has ever asked you this, your boat is bigger than most people’s apartments in the city. “How could you live in a million dollar yacht” is not something people ask
Wasted Talent, I had Puffin insured for $500,000. Of course, purchase price plus refit plus maintenance and upkeep were more than that, but once the initial price is paid, the slip rental (a little over $1000 per month, electrical, pump out and other marina costs (about $200 per month), maintenance and upkeep were about $1000 per month, with a few occasional high dollar events. So a grand total of about $2300 to 2500 per month. Not bad when your apartment is sitting in a resort marina and can take you anywhere in the world.
Great engine room!
Jessica,
It was one of the selling points of the boat. Since Puffin is an older boat (1978) with an original engine, I do a lot of preventive maintenance to protect my investment. As you saw in the video, I am not the slimmest guy to ever buy a boat, so I really do enjoy the room around the engine.
My partner a master mechanic feels very strongly that our next boat have good access all around the engine as you mentioned. He would prefer an engine room. He's a large fellow 6'4" so we decided to sell my 32' boat and find something we can live on and that he will fit in better. So my boat is sold and we are on the hunt! Thanks for your videos, they are very well made and you have a great way of explaining boating. Also the care to keep emotions out of your comparison is refreshing.
You should check out Puffin! I have (reluctantly) put her up for sale. All bunks are a minimum of 6'3" and the aft cabin has a queen size (the LAND queen, not the boating 'queen' that has been chopped). If you go to Yachtworld, you can get a 3D tour of the inside by following the link to Ashley Yachts, who I listed her with. ..... Oh, and I have her listed at 3/5 of the insured value :). Either way, happy hunting!
Really? You are selling her?. . . I just found her on Yacht World! She is a beautiful yacht! Make it easy for people to find her by posting her link in the description above on all your videos. (that's what I did) She is out of our price range but I can appreciate her lines and space!
Fantastic Boat. I enjoyed the tour. How do you access the water in your boat? Must you climb down a ladder or is there a swim deck at water level?
Cluelocker, Thanks for watching! There is no swim platform on Puffin, but she does have a portable swim ladder that hooks into the sea rail. The ladder extends down 3 feet below the surface, but is rather rinky-dink. I built another ladder that hooks into the sea rail, but terminates about a foot above the water line. I use this at dock and for boarding the dingy.
If it isn't rude to ask, how much does a boat like this cost? I don't like claustrophobia or smashing your head on low ceilings, no leg room, etc. This looks like quite a bit of usable space that is comfortable for two people.
Jennifer, Not rude at all! I paid $236K for Puffin where she was in Europe (Imperia, Italy). Once imported, I did a major refit; about $260K worth. Long list of stuff! Insured her for $500K. Of course, when I sold her, I did not get my money back, and did not expect to. I learned a buttload of stuff about buying boats outside of the US and customs and Coast Guard regs, etc. If you are thinking of buying outside the US, think twice and think hard.
A rule of thumb I have seen in action is that the smallest boat that a couple can live extensively on is about 36 foot for a powerboat, and 40 foot for a sailboat. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule. Puffin was 67 foot with the bowsprit, 62 foot hull shape. She was at the limit of what one couple could handle with maintenance and sailing. Yeah, I coulda hred more out, taken on crew, etc. Just giving you a ballpark. Puffin was a classic in Europe, unknown here in the States. If you are new to living on a boat, I would suggest a 45 foot fiberglass, less than 10 years old, but not new, one previous owner. That way you will be spending less than I did and once you log a few sea miles, you can choose to upgrade, downgrade, get out, or just refit your current boat. Dont be boat poor by buying your whole nest egg. Make sure to set aside enough money to go places. Hope this helps.
Spettacolare!!!🎉
thats a massive boat
I haven't packed or been to an airport for a vacation in 21yrs.. 😂 My weekend trips anchoring out with friends only cost me more in provisions and they bring drinks and steaks for the grill. We all fish so that's just a gift from the ocean. I love my life ❤no house for me and you can keep your property tax as well.
Now That is one hell of a boat!!! Very nice. What kind of a boat is she???
She is a 1978 Jongert 19s (19 meter, steel hull). You ought to check out the Jongert designs. They have gone out and back in to business, but some interesting boats.
@@sailingpuffin9441 a beautiful boat. The large windows in the owners cabin makes it look like one of those big old ships of the past centuries. When the lights are on at night, from outside it looks amazing.
@@sailingpuffin9441 and check out the movie "Who Finds a Friend Finds a Treasure"
It's a funny movie and the boat in there is called Puffin as well.
Please do a tour
It's my dream. Thanks
Very well explain¡¡
Yeah I like Puffin
i love that you keep calling her a "little boat"
Ha! Get her in a typhoon or a mistral, with 20+ seas, and she seems TINY!
Well done
Pat, Thanks for watching!
How much Gross tonnage does puffin have sir
Nice video but from my experience there is so many things that I wouldn’t like to have in my boat for example the teak outside on walking area, always leak unless they are glue it also the windows from the side of the boat are leaking so often that you just get tired from fixing. l’m going to design my own boat 63 feet long boat going to be really basic electronic everything should be easy to fix so many things consider before you buy or make a boat. You can easily go crazy on that 😁 Good video I like it keep up 😉
Janis, Thanks for watching! I had no issues with the portholes, but the deck did leak a wee bit around the mast. The teak deck was stapled to a wood laminate, which was glued to the 5mm metal deck. Great insulation! I considered replacing the deck with a plastic wood, but sold before I did so. The portholes were a simple rubber gasket that went between the steel, and they dogged down with large wing-nuts.
So where is Puffin ?
Hi Dave, is your boat under contract - if not I would like to make an offer please
Alicia greenwood, Boat is sold, but if you follow the links in Yachtworld, you can talk with Greg Williamson (broker).
Thanks !
I don't think of boats in terms of sq. footage, but in cubic footage. And that is not applicable to a home. A house might have a 12 foot ceiling, but the only thing that gets you is increased cost to heat and cool, but it also makes it feel bigger too. While a in a boat, that increased space gives you storage space for food tools, etc. In a house, large open floor plans are all the rage, while in a boat, in a seaway, that is not what you want. You want to be able to move around with handholds everywhere, so you don't get battered around. And yes space of deck, imo, counts as living space on a boat. You will spend more time on deck sometimes than outside in a yard in a house.
Looked at your ad in yachtworld for Puffin. Nice boat. If I was in the market for something that big, I would surely look you up. Would make a great liveaboard. Are you downgrading, going to a power boat, or getting out of boating?
Bob, Good way of thinking about it. I was targeting the folks who are usually land based.... thinking in sq footage vs cube footage. What has me scratching my head is the drive to have the most beds... (20 foot boat, but sleeps 12!) I tried to work 'living space' into the video... but at the end of the day, you just gotta get on board and experience the boat (in all conditions to include 'crowded overnight').
She is a beauty. Hope you sell her fast. You know what they say, about the best day and worst in a sailors life.. I'm sure you will miss her.
Bob, thanks!
People who own and live in regular houses will always have to pay SCHOOL TAX even if you don't have children. I'm childless. My mother is 83 and I'm her youngest at 49 and last time I used the pubic/ governmental school system was back in the spring of 1984 and since she's a home owner she's still paying school tax that her children haven't used in three and a half decades in a country with a "for profit prison system " and educational system that ranks 29th in the world. So I bought myself a 50ft trimaran with a 28ft beam. It's a home built by a navy man that's very similar to a Norman Cross design . So plenty of square footage. But due ti the size of my "mobile home" it's hard to find a marina to haul out at and then pay sho much more to rent space to work on my boat... so I bought a empty lot 1/8 th acre for dirt cheap with only $67 property tax just a mile and a half from where I can have it hauled out at a public beach ramp. So I have basically a home base and a home I can take across oceans.
Mark, that is sound logic! Did you have to pay a school tax on the small bit of property?
@@sailingpuffin9441 The $67 includes everything. Since there's no housing no school tax. I do my research before I do anything, Plus I bought that property in a state that does NOT share DMV information with the other states. New York has created enough revenue off me and my vehicles, so now I also have a place to take my car off the road and store my 84 Mustang SVO and not have to pay insurance unless I want to use the governmental roads. As I always say, growing up a New Yorker I learned to make a dollar go a long way.
Little boat
You need an army of people to maintain that boat. There is no way you can handle it yourself!
lora pora, But I do! Granted, it sometimes gets in the way of enjoying the day (I have been putting off cleaning strainers for a few days now, Ha!). Puffin is more a 'sized down ship' than a 'scaled up boat', and that does help. Thanks for watching!
Small boat? It's not a Flika 20 :p
Jealous!
Ha! She is for sale if you are interested!
Not interested in buying, but for how much would something like puffin in similar condition go?
Depends on the market, of course. First question you should ask (when looking at a used boat) is 'how much is she insured for?'. That gives you the value that the REAL experts (the insurance folks) put on the boat. But then the ugly head of the market rears itself. As a seller, chances are you will have to sell at some fraction of the insured cost.
As a comparison, Puffin is insured for $500K. (I had to prove to my insurance people that I had at least that much in her, not inclusive of labor, delivery, maintenance, etc., etc.) I have her for sale for less than $250K. So, I am gonna take a hit, and someone is going to get a steal..... provided they then sell her later on for her 'true' value. At least they are unlikely to lose a large amount by owning her.
Hope that answered the question.
If you are still fishing for the cost vs value, suggest watching your dream boat category (brand, year, size, major options) on Yachtworld for a year or so. Graph the asking prices, and get with a broker to find out the selling prices. You can get a picture of the 'normal' difference between asking and selling price, and this gives you a fair start on what you would have to pay.
I also recommend saving a third of your boat budget to fix stuff you didn't spot or notice in the sale.
Thanks for the elaborate answer!
I DO tend to go on (a little). :)