Fanged Beast Ecology : Bishaten and Kecha Wacha in Monster Hunter
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- MH content resumes as we join the jungle VIPs of Kecha Wacha and Bishaten to find out what sets them apart from the other monster hunter monkeys!
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"Now, I'm the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I've reached the top and had to stop
And that's what botherin' me" - King Louie
Oh, oobee do
@greendino36
"I wanna be like you
I wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
You'll see it's true
An ape like me
Can learn to be human, too" - King Louie
Rajang- amateurs
Titanus Kong- true they are nubes
Humans, I want to be monkey again.
I wanna be a man, man cub and stroll right into town. And be just like the other men, I'm tired of monkeyin' around!
Kecha wacha ear folds have another use, they lose their weakness to both sound and flash bombs.
With how loud the monster hunter world is, having a weakness to sound would be bad for survival. And blocking out light might be useful when hunting flash bugs.
Also I think kecha has animations of it peeking out of it's hood to look for you.
MY SILLY GOOFY BOYS GET THEIR TIME TO SHINE LETS GOO
such a waste for making bishaten only a low to mid tier monster. he is so unique but ultimately forgettable since hes not that important
I blame the early game being easy. Modern mh issue. It peaked at third gen for time spent in each part of the game.
I love it’s armor and weapons (ESPECIALLY the weapons) so much though; I still use the bishaten switch axe as my main Swax for master rank
I feel like it fits just perfectly as an early game monster, the problem is that Rise's early game is really easy so the monsters end up feeling like filler
@@danielwilson217Eh, MH always had bitch monsters like this. It's just that these ones are more unique and better designed than generations prior
@telson1583 well shit I knew something felt off till I got to master rank
Bishanten to me is somewhat underrated, he has a lot of fun, charaterfull animations and the fight, while really easy, is also very charming.
Something I just thought of about Blood Orange Bishaten eating primarily nuts like pinecones. Most pinecones only open and germinate with fire. Sure the specific ones in game explode, but one reason it could've evolved fire breath is to force pinecones to open to make eating the seeds easier.
Add to that the fact that conifers like pines have highly flammable sap gives it a good fuel scource.
it's always a treat to hear a biologists take on detailed monsters in media, and you never disappoint, I hope the algorithm sends you more science and geeky fanboys soon.
MONKE. I'm here for monke.
thank you, UHC.
Unnatural History Channel post a video, I click. Easy as that.
I always found it interesting how all the ape monsters (so far) have tails, besides rajang and blangonga they all have a specific use, from congalala’s and bishaten’s grasping tails to garangolm’s ground tiller
That's what is business we call excellent monster design.
Rajang's tail is related to its ability to go Super Saiyan
@@epicazeroth Furious Rajang most notably doesn't have a tail. It's angry all of the time, too.
@@epicazeroth well I meant that rajang and blangonga tails are just basic tails compared to the other primate monsters
Rajangs in particular just looks like a fly swatter
Kecha Wacha is a monster that has always fascinated me because I have no idea where his face comes from, where his claws come from, his ears, or his barbed tail. But yet he feels so grounded in reality
ant-eater, sloth, orangutan. thats what i see in it. the eyes also kinda remind me of those really tiny monkeys.
Hey, could you some day talk about any of these 2 stereotypes?:
- Land squid/octopuses.
- Animals that carry vegetation or, in extreme cases, Entire Ecosystems on their backs.
That sounds interesting.
@@gonzalo600 Thanks.
Wake up babe, unnatural history channel dropped new monke lore
Return to monke 🦍
the notifcation has summoned me once again. It's time for some delicious monster ecology!
Kecha Wacha is the best fanged beast monster in the series and easily one of the best beginner monsters. It introduced the new verticality well, was full ecology and character, and had great fight/theme.
I always speculated that Bishaten was simply a marsupial that looks like a primate, with his pouch and reliance on tail for support. That always made Bishaten very intriguing to me from just a design aspect
That'd make it's design extra goofy. It's a marsupial that looks like a primate that looks like a bird
That Kecha Wacha looks like it's seen some shit.
The emperor and the empress of flames are going to make an explosive entrance in the next video. Good work as always.
You should know that your videos are what inspired me to pursue a degree in biology
I ADORE Kecha. A core memory of 4U was watching him swing out on those vines for the first time. I hope they bring him back!
I do honestly think bishaten is one of the better rise monsters, he’s so unique and his fight is a really refreshing. He’s also got quite a nice personality that matches the type of animal he’s based on and to some degree the yokai he’s based on.
I kove Kecha Wacha, such a weird and unique design compared to the other monsters
Monke.
Also: Since your last video I’ve become the proud owner of a copy of The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island. And a SIGNED one, if you could believe it.
I’d like to formally thank you for inspiring my love of that film’s wonderful world-building.
New priority just arrived!
orange-aten killed me. is he really called that
In part descriptions at least!
that is HILARIOUS. it’s a double pun: monke name and color 😭
I honestly don't think Bishaten does too much of many things, if at all. He caprures the essence of Kerasu Tengu fairly well, especially their trickery and mean spiritedness, though the sheer might his inspiration would be better suited to elder dragons and such. Overall, he's among the most memorable of Rise's Roster, and I hope to see him swinging in the canopies of Wilds.
This is the best channel of its kind on RUclips, and one of my favorite channels in general. You nailed the World War Z content, too. This channel is just great.
"It'll be interesting to see who the next glider will be in Wilds"
Does the mount count?
A lot of monkey related content this year I'm noticing and now this video comes out ( great video as always)
It’s very funny how much rathalos influences basically every arboreal monster in the series, that insane range gives you a ton of ways to mess with some canopy dwellers.
Ha! Love the title in the thumbnail. 😂😂 Obviously love the video too but that title is perfection.
Now only one monkey remains ragang time is soon best of luck
I think Kecha "sees" with it's trunk when it's eyes are covered. Depending on how sensitive tapir-esque trunks are compared to other mammalian noses, it might make sense.
Ketcha is a fun fight but what I would like to see is him picking up sticks or rocks to throw them or hit you with them, they clearly establish him as a very intelligent monster, both in his cutscenes and in actual gameplay he goofs around, messes with us and then laughs... It would be interesting if half way through the fight he realizes this is not a joke anymore and started taking in a bit more seriously grabbing rocks and sticks etc and fighting us with them
Also the ears are probably a little transparent and he also peeks out once in a while that's how he sees
Calling Blood Orange Bishanten BOB: NAH
Calling it Orangeten: Hecc Yeah!
I haven't had the chance to fight Kecha yet, but I'm currently playing 3U and it feels like a monster that would have been at home in third gen with all this potential for environmental use. The Flooded forest actually lacks a fighter that takes to the upper part of the map like Gigginox would (flying Duramboros does not count), so it would have been a great part of the roster.
Bishanten I enjoy, but as you said Rise's lack of ecology based behaviours really hits it hard (and also Orangeten in the Sandy plains make no sense to me).
yeah this is what I am here for
2 really interesting monsters that I am fine seeing more of in later games.
Bishaten has got to be my favorite fanged beast alongside with Blangonga
Kecha Wacha is up there but its downside is that its whole gimmick revolves around one specific area of a map
Bishatens gimmick of throwing fruit with different ailments makes it fun to fight plus its personality
Design wise its interesting that its almost a form of convergent evolution of a primate having avian like traits, showing almost aerial attacks reminiscent of flying. Such a neat design
One thing I would have liked you to touch on was how Bishaten can use its tail to stick to walls while its other limbs remain free. It does not grab the wall - it simply pushes its palm into the wall, and it somehow sticks.
From what I understand, the mechanism behind it is the same as how geckos can climb on almost any surface - it has grooves and/or tiny hairs in the palm of its tail-hand that take advantage of Van der Waals forces, which are "fluctuations in charge distributions in nearby molecules, resulting in attractive forces", and also perhaps taking advantage of the microscopic imperfections that even the smoothest-looking surface can often have.
Given that 6 appears to be more focusing on environment from what little we have so far on it I hope it marks a return of the monkeys in force if there’s a forest/jungle map
Kecha is my personal favorite monster from the series, been hyped to hear you talk about him, even tho you’re not the biggest fan!
Yes, can't wait for more content bro
ECOLOGY VIDEO ON DIDDY KONG AND ZOOBOOMAFOO!!!??? 🤯🤯🤯
Anyways, this is a great video, thanks for talking about the other MH Primates. What's your opinion on Primeval's Future Fungus or Megopteran?
Kecha Wacha looks like if an anteater went through convergent evolution 20 times and this is the result.
Still a favorite monster in the end.
I like bishaten the persimmons are fun, creative, and a fun detour from the monotony of rathian backflips
I've been waiting for these monkeys thank you so much
YESAAASDEDSSAAAASS NEW UHC VIDEO MOOD DRASTICALLY IMPROVED!!!!!
Man, I was just watching all your videos again!
Thanks for the new addition to my favourite background content while doing absolutely anything!
On the note, I find primate-type monsters in media to be especially interesting a lot of the time. I do hope we get to hear your thoughts on Rajang, some day! I've gathered you don't feel particularly fond of him, but that didn't stop the Barioth video from being very enjoyable and critical takes are just as thought-provoking. In any case, patiently awaiting the next one!
Mmmmh. Monke
Keep up the good work 👍
Ah yes, da monkehs
Always up for some Kecha Wacha love.
Yo, good call. I can't believe I missed the WWZ pt.6 video
Tbh, I really didn't appreciate Kecha Wacha when I initially fought it (I was admittedly, quite new to the series at the time, and had very little idea of what I was doing... 😅) but upon going back to grind it's Hunt-a-thon in High Rank, I found the mechanics of being able to pull it down from the vine canopy, either by flash-stunning it, or just with damage, and aiming to break it's parts, really fun. So more interesting than I initially thought... 👀
On the topic of Primates, I'd love to see you tackle the elephant in the room; humans and wyvernians. Where do they come from? Are they related to other primates? Are they related to one another? Is there any evidence of a common ancestor? One of the things which has always stood out about a series that puts so much emphasis on the natural world and the inter-relationships of animals species is that the humans, the main characters, don't really seem to fit in the evolutionary family tree of Monster Hunter.
Perhaps I've missed something.
"Ricochetal Brachiating" can be sung in the beat of the TMNT theme. Anyway, great vid, always looking forward to more 👍
Babe wake up, the unnatural history channel just posted
Thank you!
i forgot how much i liked these videos
19:29 I thought kecha doesn't see much when he puts on the ear majora's mask but it looks veiny as if light could go through it and it would allow him to at least make out shapes during the day, but given how it has markings on it's ears and it's a nocturnal animal that might not be the case.
I enjoy big lizard content, but I also enjoy monkey content.
A fun pair of monsters I've got mixed thoughts on. Kecha I adore, I'm a sucker for early-game monsters with distinct ecologies and personalities, easily my favorite of the monkey monsters across the series. Ash always came off as an oddity but it being a plains-dwelling species makes a lot of sense, and I do hope that with wilds we get a proper grasslands/open plains habitat as I feel they're one of the few weirdly underutilized biomes in the series, always on the fringes of some maps rather than being the central focus.
A small detail with Oranguten I'm surprised wasn't brought up is the potential symbiotic relationship it could have developed with the pinecones that it feeds on. Using them as a defense mechanism by lighting them on fire is an interesting choice given that's how some pine trees spread their seeds, and so if at least some of the pinecones Oranguten feed on spread their seeds in this manner, then Oranguten provide a means of dispersal far greater than a wildfire would, while merely needing to sacrifice some cones for sustenance in the process. I almost wish we got to see the parent trees these pinecones came from, and if they're implied to be present across the Sandy Plains, Shrine Ruins, and even Citadel. As another little point on Oranguten, I REALLY like how the Sunbreak subspecies have alternate names to the typical subspecies naming scheme that work just as well: Oranguten, Auroracanth, Magmadron, Pyre-Kadaki. I really hope this is a trend that continues, feels far more natural than one species having a prefix while the other doesn't.
AH, THERE IT IS. The UHC upload.
My boy Kecha. I was just wondering yesterday why no one talks about this dude.
Now a horrible Slenderman gibbon monster is at the top of my what if monsters list because that is the perfect mix of absurd and actually potentially creepy.
idk why people say Bishaten should've been a bird wyvern. Just because it has a beak like structure doesn't mean it's a bird. Plus, all the cool stuff about Bishaten stems from its primate inspirations, not the few bird inspirations.
If Bishaten comes back in Wilds, I would like to see it crack nuts with its keratinized "beak" nose for easy consumption. Also refilling fruit from trees whenever it does its big barrage attack, or even making a point to pick up the more ripe fruit it threw out to put back in its pouch for later, since that fruit it threw out is still good to eat regardless.
Kecha having its water blasts be about gelling up wings from insects is such a cool thing though. Maybe in WIlds it could have some interactions with Hornetaurs and Vespoids where they shoot a few from the air with the mucus, and you can see the Vespoid/Hornetaur struggling to fly and trying to fight or sting the Kecha while it tears it apart and eats it. Maybe afterwards it could drop a Vespoid stinger as a shiny, since I bet it makes a point to not eat that part.
Kecha Wacha is my fav monster in all of monster hunter, i wish so much that it is brought to the modern age
I really want one of these guys completely based on a orangutan I love the idea of a higher tier one of these guys
Let's Gooo🎉
I feel like I’m torn on these two monsters, I like them both but I also don’t really care for them either? They have their charm and I think it’s a fun gimmick that when you down him you can grab bishaten’s fruits and throw them back at him.
But an interesting detail I noticed is that Bishaten has a turf war with rathalos, which could imply that Bishaten may suffer heavy predation from them, while normal bishaten only overlap in the fringes of the shrine ruins bamboo steppes Blood orange bishaten overlap with rathalos and Rathian in the ruins, Sandy plains and the citadel. Maybe the dynamic is similar to a harpy eagle where rathalos dives at a quick speed to yoink the bishaten out of the canopy or in rathians case she simply runs them down in pursuit.
And a idea I had for ash kecha Wacha is that maybe the fire assists in foraging? Ash kecha wacha may use thier firey mucus to smoke out alteroth putting their trunks in and breathing small puffs of fire that leave an area of smoke to get the alteroth to come out.
Spectacular video as always!
Also i have a thing with the jagras in the old world i think the original jagras there snuck into a ship and rode from the new to the old that or jagras eggs are considered food and thus they wanted to bribg back the eggs but they lost the shipment
Cool jungle book reference!
Paolumu should have been one of these Fanged Beasts, the Bat features, fur, and even the puffed up throat for floating make way more sense on a gliding primate/mammalian monster than another flying-wyvern. There's no reason we can't get a Bat faced Kecha down the line, but Paolumu I feel reduces the chance of them reusing the concept
cool title, imma try that tag ;)
Kecha Wacha always reminded me of the Pokemon Caterpie, just because of his ear mask.
nice
RAAAAAAH MONKE
Had my first Bishaten fight in rise last week. Love and hate him 😂 still learning what the different fruit does, i stg one healed me
The endemic life got me thinking though... most of it (cutterfly, etc) release pheromones when disturbed. I wonder if it's to allow certain monsters (that won't eat them) to go toe to toe with those that would? Or maybe it's supposed to deter things on its own? Idk man it's late, I'm tired, but if anybody wants to put some ideas out, I'm intrigued
I kinda wanna see a vid of the most hated monsters like valstrax, rajang, etc
if the pouch was just for young, it wouldn't be on the males or at least less likely. it was likely for both reasons the whole time. it makes sense to be able to carry more food/defensive tools for any emergencies, given how dangerous and unpredictable this world can be. there would likely be competition and predation concerns, all throughout it's history.
it is a little sad that both monkeys have fire subspecies but they are decent monsters. i like some of bob's pine cone thowing attacks as unique animations.
I am definitely in the crowd of making Bishaten a misclassified Bird Wyvern with convergent primate like traits.
Regarding Ash Kecha Wacha's flaming snot, is it possible that they also use the fire they make while fending off land predators to generate thermal updraft for takeoff from the relatively flat steppe?
King of Swinger.
or in another world. Swing King.
by this point in time im convinced that you pronunce Bajujatsu Bagumatsu Bakuhatsu's name (or however its written) a different way each time
kecha wacha is such an underrated monster imo
I kind of think bishaten tries to mimic a bird/flying wyvern as an anti predator mechanizm, especially blood orange with its fire breath.
10/10. Return of the Monke.
Cool
Yes, Kecha Wacha! My favorite!
How'd you search for papers containing the specific info you need? their titles and abstract could leave out some info I'm looking for buried somewhere in the paper, And I just don't have the time for rummaging through them.
I wonder if the title is a reference to donkey kong king of swing
Hell yeah. But I really wish they would have implemented the moveset into the new primates.
Sadly I just honestly didn't really like the new ones as much. I skipped them when I could
Bishaten and Kecha Wacha were not two picks I would have guessed from you, but hey they are some of the better low rank monsters.
I never faced the two monkey, but they seem to be alright in their base forms, with the weaker and commonly disliked fire subspecies. Maybe we see some stuff in the next games.
Also it will be interesting how much of the canon lore you will pull in for Teostra and Lunastra, since these two fire Manticores are pretty different to lions as a whole.
And as a future monster maybe Agnaktor? If there is anything to go off of with that magma drilling Leviathan.
Bishaten is based off a tengu which for me initially was dissapointing for me, would be better if it was bird wyvern but as is, it is an unique take on Fanged Beasts body types, also I like Kecha and would greatly improve if it gets the gen 6 treatment, hopefully it and Tetsu gets their limelight in 6th Gen
I'm gonna have to watch this later tonight. But I just wanted to say that as far as gen 4 newcomer monsters come. Kecha Wacha is in my top 10
My bois!!!!
I wonder why bishaten a mammalian monster have feathers instead fur is still a pelagus or fanged beast in terms of phylogeny.
Finally, Nintendo made another Donkey Kong game. It looks great!