I honestly thought people were gonna regret complimenting SB so much until the Black Noir flashback. Instead, he's now the new chad. They're definitely going to bring him back in Season 4 because of his growth in popularity.
I love it how all of the main characters unanimously agreed that taking out soldier boy should be top priority. Despite soldier boy being less powerful and much more sane than homelander.
I’m pretty sure it’s cause Soldier shoulder checked a child. That he knows is his grandchild, and it about to kill his son in front of this grandchild. All the main characters have shit morality, but I think they all have a line. Or just dumb plot stuff
@@geomeopeoleo1740 suddenly they dont care about eliminating the overpowered homelander when that was their only chance. Now they can go back to season 1 and 2 and suffer the bully of homelander all over again...episode 8 is stupid
SB is fucking ruthless but man kept his end of the deal even after finding out the target was his son all cus Butcher doesn't know how to talk to kids properly
He kept his end of deal because He is ruthless. Like Butcher's father. Who abuse his sons because they are little puff, weak, looking for love of family. If Homelander were not near breakdowns for love of his father and son. Then SB have thought his son as "Real Man". Like Butcher father was praising Him for beating teacher.
@@helloasa9296 so dumb SB shared a vulnerable moment with butch about how his father is a piece of shit and he would like kids and go be better than him only to say the same as his father did to HL. stupid writing.
@@helloasa9296 I'm gonna need you to look at all the shit homelander did, soldier boy was right it was too late for homelander, and he is sorry he wasn't there.
@@marethyu.t1724 I think you misunderstood Soldier Boy's those lines. Soldier Boy was not criticising Homelander's evil deeds. Soldier Boy criticise Homelander's begging for love, seeking for attention. Soldier Boy was all about that fake masculinity. " Real man" don't get scared , "Real man" not cry type bullshit. For not teaching this bullshit He was sorry. Not for Homelander's other evil acts.
This episode seemed like lazy writing. The presence of Ryan felt forced and butcher throwing the first punch after soldier boy ask him why he lasered him. As well as Maeve somehow surviving the blast practically unscarred.
@@Redd-Monarch There's no probably to it. He already was back in his day with Pay Back. He would have gotten accustomed to modern times and its luxuries and been just as selfish, abusive, and self indulgent as he was before.
@@TheHandofDestiny Yeah, he's not like Homelander. He's just arrogant, narcissistic, and wants to be number one, not loved. Homelander wants to be loved.
The vibe that I got from homelander was so different in this episode, while he encountered soldier boy he was the most "human" he's ever been, seemed like he wasn't even trying to escape when he got him he was just shocked that his dad wanted to kill him, so weird that I sympathized him, he's so irredeemable at this point but... idk it feels weird im speechless about his character development
I was about to say the same thing. He wasn't even fighting back when Soldier Boy was powering up. He just whispered like, "please don't do this..." He didn't even want to fight Maeve. If you watch when she first starts fighting him, all he does is push her away.
Finally someone else gets it. Everyone's all over him trying to remind us of his past wrongdoings. But couldn't we just have let him have this moment? As you said he didn't want to struggle with SB choking him, he was emotionally hurt that his own father would do this and that Noir was right. He finally snapped out of it when SB hit Ryan.
I was like holy shit, I actually am rooting for Homelander when he was introducing SB to Ryan. FFS I hate how this show makes me side with Homelander and then makes me feel dumb as fuck for doing it 😭 he really is a victim in a way
Everyone deserves redemption. Homelander was a missile with no target going around randomly untill he found the emptiness(family) inside of him. Now he just wants to be with his son and give him the life free of abuse. Awesome ending except the part Maive surviving the fall after her powers deactivated mid air)
True, all of this season was great, but the final episode made me feel like we are back to season 2, like this season didn't happen. No consecuences, no one died. The only important facts are 1) Maeve lost his powers; 2) Frenchie and Kimiko had a certain character development; 3) Ryan went to Homelander's side. Other than that, this season easily could've not happened.
@@rodolfo7710 Black Noir died, Homelander killed someone in public and nobody batted an eye, Butcher is dying in a few months, A-train lost everything relationshipwise and gained the ability to run, Soldier boy got captured by Mallory, Victoria Neuman is the vice president. Lot of big shit happened in this episode that you are overlooking.
Black Noir’s ark always was serving its storytelling narrative - he was an innocent tangled up in other’s agendas and plots. He died in character, in vain and purposelessly. He is a martyr, which serves as a catalyst for highlighting the senselessness of HL’s actions and inevitability of HL’s demise. HL will die because of his conflict in emotions, as it is his Achilles heel (in this scene, he killed Black Noir, even though if he did not he might have fared with him better vs others).
Lol yeah, ive watched a lot of youtubers predict it to happen. The boys really never fails to subvert our expectations. I wonder what would happen next season now that temp v is a thing, are they gonna go through with what happens in comics where they permanently get their supes powers?
@@RitsychServare there wasn’t really any way for butcher to know and give him a heads up but he probably should have said something like he was his kid so soldier boy just assume homelander stole some kid
I feel like they probably made Soldier Boy more likeable than they intended to. He’s been a big hit with the fans and not necessarily in an ironic way. Also MM called him racist, but I never saw any evidence of that? They didn’t even explain the context of what happened with his grandpa.
@@LoneWolf872 just because he praised bill Cosby doesn’t mean he wasn’t still racist. Many white people back in the 30s-60s would go hate crime blacks and still buy their music. Besides we simply don’t know enough about SB. Just the fact that everyone around him hates his guts and that he enjoyed beating the shit out of people.
Yep. All he wanted was a family, and that pain of rejection was too much for him. Homelander went through literal hell. Far worse than that Russian torture of SB. He just wanted closure but was denied of it. Luckily, he still got it, as he should have.
You know what it would've been better in my opinion if they just show them succeeding in blasting Homelander but turns out he is immune to Soldier Boy's depowering blast because he's a natural supe. Same case with Ryan.
That was my guess too. Other Supes have V run through their veins. A finite amount of it, injected. Homelander and Ryan produce V naturally (they got only a small injection/inheritance, and their cells learnt to synthesize V in the body as they grew). So, even if they lose powers temporarily, their bodies should produce V over time and restored their powers eventually. Unlike other Supes, which do not have V on genetic level.
Ryan is very unlucky for boys....first he killed butcher's wife and now saving homelander 😗....the boys should take him out first ...he is the real threat
This my new favorite show! Homelander is the guy you love to hate. Seriously hope they never kill him off, the show just wouldn't be worth watching without him.
Nah. I support Homelander without any irony. He is the true victim of the series. But it’s true that he deserves happiness. Let’s hope that he can learn some empathy, as Ryan’s natural kindness should rub off on him and make him softer. Homelander redemption ark (even in sacrificial way for Ryan) would be top-notch!
@@JOBXR …… That fight was a parallel to Butcher’s father. It was a masterful metaphor and it totally flew over your head. Butcher always has soft spot for family, and SB’s words were spitting image of his abusive, heartless father.
Thanks Butcher you just assassinated 3 whole years of show plot to "keep a promise". Wtf is there left to fight for now? The only one who could contend with HL was Soldier Boy and they betrayed him. Now Maeve is powerless what can Starlight do? They...are...screwed.
I agree this seems lazy in terms of writing. I hope soldier boy comes back and annihilates butcher for betraying him, depowers homelander, and takes Ryan.
Starlight was able to pierce SB’s skin with the blast (look at cut forehead). And THAT is not her full potential. For reference, SB was left unscratched by a nuke. That is some INSANE concentrated damage. If Starlight sucks in the full power of a nuclear reactor, she could 100-0 Homelander with the explosion, in theory. Also, her powers are THE STRONGEST of all the seven and generally slept on by unscientific audience. She can absorb electricity. Human body (even one of superpowered individual) uses electricity for heart and brain functions. She can just kill ANYBODY by sucking their natural electricity out, invincible or not.
Lol. SB was the most toxic character this episode. Somebody suffers from toxic masculinity as well, lol. Somebody being you (in case you don’t get the implication).
Interesting that some feel Soldier Boy is less powerful than Homelander. I see him as having greater Invulnerability and *possibly* Strength, but Homelander just overpowers him due to his greater variety of Powers.
I think sb considered his offer until hl started acting all puppy dog and showed his vulnerable side which sb based on his childhood views as weakness which he completely hates.
Yes. Soldier Boy had very narrow view on "Real man". Every episode He talk about being "Real man". Homelander showing all these emotions disappointed him. At the end SB was like Butcher's father. He want to beat his son for being "little puff". An abusive father.
@@kingol4801 homelander used Ryan to shield him from SB homelander is a narcissist but when he saw his face bruised that scared him remember homelander does not know what pain is SB showed him pain even noir was scared of SB he killed noir for SB that was gonna be his back up trump card if Ryan didn’t play along again he’s a narcissist crazy but he’s not stupid he told noir you can’t penetrate SB’s skin
@@outrider425 why did she need 5 heroes as she said before then? Why did she need SB? Entire plot loses meaning. All she needed was starlight and butcher on V + they have kimiko.
I think everyone is missing a really important POINT. Soldierboy wouldn't necessarily have killed Homelander or the boy, it might have just made them both human. I guess the show decides who can and who can't survive Soldierboy's chest blast. If I was Butcher I would have taken the chance that the kid could have lead a normal (no powers) life.
They would not lose their powers permanently BTW. Other Supes lose their power because they only get a finite amount of V in their system from the injection. Both Ryan and Homelander were made to have V on genetic level. Hence it can be inherited and hence they are substantially stronger than others. Their cells can synthesize V (or else it does not make sense, as that small V amount in embryo would NOT be enough for Homelander to grow into a super-powered adult). Even if they lost their power for a moment, their cells would produce more quite quickly. Power of genetics, lol.
@@kingol4801 Which we didn't get a confirmation of. I think they thought if it went like that and Homelander regained his powers while in confinement that it would kill the buildup, but who knows.
Honestly i don't understand what Soldier Boy did wrong here; he fulfilled his part as agreed, and when he did attack Ryan, he didn't do it a brutal way as to justify Butcher's reaction. Honestly, this scene makes no sense to me
It is a metaphor for Butcher’s father. Lenny was mentioned in the episode a lot, as a foreshadowing. It was always his soft spot and the very reason of Butcher’s “tough” persona. Butcher’s dad had the same toxic masculinity issue (emotion is weak - proceeds with punishment) AND he has no remorse for his own family. That struck Butcher on his very core and he had to fight SB, in a closure to his own unavenged venture with his father (his father died before he could do anything to him). This episode was truly Shakespearean in terms of quality of every creative decision. If you want, I can tell you more metaphors and deeper meanings in this episode. Just tell me which one (HL, Noir, Maeve, Hugie etc)
@@kingol4801 bruh, Butcher literally just told SB to kill his own son because he wasn't actually his son since he didn't raise him but then he goes the exact opposite way with Ryan All these mfs just decided that SB was the bigger threat because of what? Stupid fucking reasons HL is literally threatening to take over the world and they just decided that SB is the greater evil wtf is this shit
The season went downhill when The Legend told Hughie Soldier Boy is a fraud. This is a bad message indicating that all supes except Starlight is evil. They had a chance to make Soldier Boy different but made him bad as all other supes. I get the cynism but the show is getting messier. Season 2 showed a scene in which Edgar told Homelander that Soldier Boy’s heroism in fighting Nazis helped Frederick Vought be pardoned. The Legend was confusing because there was no Vought Corporation during WWll. If there was, it is insane how the U.S Government allowed a Nazi to start his own pharmaceutical businesses. Did the writers forget that Season 2 scene to the point they retconned their own story? I am upset. Soldier Boy carried Season 3. However, the Series Finale showed that Soldier Boy and the Boys’ missions play no role in the outcome of the story. If Soldier Boy wasn’t freed, everything would’ve still happened the way it is. Homelander would’ve gotten Ryan back and continue to receive support by his followers and the U.S Government. The only thing the Boys team managed to accomplish is pass through therapy sessions which actually gave some good character development. This is the season in which the Boys team actions did nothing. Therefore, they lost to Homelander and the villains won this season.
I know people say the political messaging has been there from the start, and it has, but this season was ridiculously ham fisted about it and it kept taking me out of the story. The Soldier Boy is Covid thing was also super stupid because the analogy doesn't hold up with 2 seconds of thinking about it. Half of what they wanted to do with Soldier Boy in the end seemed to be them saying WW2 veterans weren't really heroes because they were rough and came from another era.
Homelander is gonna use ryan because he know he is butcher's weakness,ryan will protect homelander and he is a kid so if you are gonna kill homelander you have to go through ryan and this might lead to ryan's death,maybe butcher might kill him
This 180 isnt always good. Butcher chose a very fickle reason to suddenly turn against soldier boy. He could have atleast waited till they radiated homelander. Then they all could have ganged upon soldier boy. It's as if Butcher suddenly had a brain freeze in the most critical juncture of the fight.
Butcher don't wanted to get hated by Ryan. He told Soldier Boy to back off. If Butcher and team had back away Ryan and kill Homelander. For whose life Ryan was willing to fight. What's gonna happen to Ryan in future and what He gonna think about Butcher.
@@helloasa9296 Butcher doesn't care what Ryan thinks of him, if anything he thinks its better if Ryan stops loving him completely. Look at him literally telling Ryan off earlier in the season. He just got too emotional and scared that SB could kill Ryan in that moment, and judging by the blast later in the episode, Ryan likely would have died. Plus it sucks he'd have to see both of his parents die in front of him.
@@SuperPaez , Butcher understand killing a father near kid gonna mess up Boy for whole life. Specially if that kid trying to fight to save his father. Even if Soldier Boy promise to not hurt Ryan but only kill Homelander. Is that Boy gonna be same?
@@SuperPaez What? Butcher definitely cares. He was 3 seconds away from bursting into tears when Ryan yelled at him. He simply thought it was best to distance him
Because it is justified plot point. Also, even if Scarlet Witch died, she would just snap back to her real body, and all those heroes would have left would be the ashes of another Wanda (single mother of 2…. Would be fun discussion afterwards: “Sorry kids, we nuked your mother without trying to save her first”). AND because it is superhero world, Scarlet Witch would come up with some other way of getting what she wants, eventually. Bad guys always come back, and she would definitely not be dead because of how Dreamwalking works.
@@kingol4801 Exactly. People just couldn't seem to get over Black Bolt not getting a chance nor Reed Richards being "smart". I think that was a show of strength, a one sided slaughter.
yes, I have a theory, which leads right after your video, instead of HL dying, Ryan dies while HL is de-powered. Both HL and Soldier Boy are kept in secured military facility i.e. under CIA and then in Season 4 the boys go after Vic Neuman and when Vic finds it difficult to handle The Boys on her own she frees HL from secured facility and gives him Compound V as was initially done to kimiko. Having has his kid died HL furious join hands with vic to take down The Boys and Butcher, and when The Boys find out that HL is out again with his powers, then The Boys again release SB. This time Butcher doesn't screw up and let SB takedown HL. Finally The Boys and SB go separate ways and The series ends
@@kingol4801 It seems particularly cruel for Soldier Boy to say what he did because he knows exactly what it feels like to have a father say that to his son. That’s probably why he said. He knew it crushed him and he wanted to crush HL.
I don't like what the script-writers did with Ryan. The boy Is a pain in the ass and now It seems that he Is up to be a jerk like his dad after that smile at the end.
@@Red_567 his dad has always been a stranger to him. Though Is understandable that he must be feeling isolated after Becka's demise, Is pretty weird that suddenly he seems to have taken Homelander's side just like that.
@@eikrzatarra7867 that's because butcher was a idiot and cussed him out I ep 7 so like homelander he wants a parent so really everything bad that happened there was all butchers fault
Ryan character stayed consistent he is supposed to be a pain in the ass u should be mad about what the writers did to Maeve Butcher MM all acting dumb as fuck going after SB when he is the only shot they got at killing homelander It really is bad writing unless its setting something Up for the future still very lazy
So they turn on the less evil, more sane character to fight with the more evil, less sane character? And of course, the latter now has his own Sidekick in Homelander Jr. Great decision making, honestly, this finale felt like we expected too much and they just didn't know how to deliver.
Everybody saying soldier stick with the plan and stuff... But honestly i Just think he Gave up saving his "son" because he showed emotions... Every super in this serie is bad. The difference is that homelander is the "invicible" one. I dont think soldier boy is better,i think his thing with weakness its quite dangerous... The Sad part was the i was kind cheering for him,expecting better stuff...
It's reasons like this that I hate kids in TV shows like this, because they always end up screwing shit up, EVERY TIME. Just like the one kid in the Strain that ended up nuking New York.
@@kingol4801 I mean Homelander is an evil piece of shit, that should be common fuckin knowledge to anyone with a soul. But killing him and making Soldier Boy the next big bad would have been awesome even if it does deviate from the comics.
I think it's Ryan fault. And also butcher should have stick to the plan instead of fighting with SB himself. There was no reason to fight with him, he could have said no the kid or warn him and continued with the plan but I guess it was all plot
There was reason. Butcher care about Ryan. Atleast because of Becca. He was not going to kill Homelander near Ryan. Specially when Ryan try to fight for his father.
My whole problem with this was why didn't they just introduce a character more powerful than Soldier Boy or Homelander? It felt like the writers found themselves stuck and, for some reason, made some bullshit happen in order for both Soldier Boy and Homelander to survive. I would actually like to see a character that not only has OP power like Homelander Or Soldier Boy (or potentially stronger than both of them) ,but actually be dangerous with their intelligence. Outsmarting everyone and maybe have a big doomsday plan type of shit in mind, seeing as how deranged and insane that their world is. And i would like the writers to let that character win, to go against the norm of the "good guys beat bad guys" thing, considering this show is supposed to go against the whole superhero cliches. Have the bad guy actually succeed in destroying everyone.
What i don’t get is now u wanna keep your promise 🤣🤣 u told sb That homelander that being his kid don’t matter and he kept his word now the man who scorched the earth is pulling back lol
stopping SB from using his power made no sence. we already know powerful supes (kimko/maeve) survive the blast. homelander would of surived but lost his power same with maeve and ryan a little iffy but still worth the chance to take down homelander for good. Butcher could go either way, hes suped up and quite powerful but also only a temp version. He was already willing to die to stop homelander so i guess wouldnt cared if it took him out aswell
……. Somebody does not understand Butcher character x 20…… Long story short - SB in this episode is metaphor for Butcher’s unresolved daddy issues. He acted/reasoned exactly like his father and got stopped by Butcher as a result. It is further evidenced by many mentions of “Lenny” throughout the episode. Open your eyes for deeper meaning, please! Also, blast will not take away HL’s power, as V is naturally produced in his body (on genetic level), as opposed to other Supes (Ryan is the exception because of the identical reason). Overall, every creative decision of this episode was pure brilliance. Writing was Shakespearean-level, which is pretty impressive for a superhero TV show. Butcher, Ryan, Homelander, Noir etc - all were served BEST narrative-wise. Their character arks were masterfully concluded and storytelling elements just aligned so great.
@@kingol4801 you're giving this shit way too much credit they're just dragging the show on to milk some more money.out of it since their most succesful one How many more fucking seasons are they going to keep doing this shit Oh shit new character pops up, oops turns out he's villian gotta take him out Also super close to getting HL oh well try again next season
No consistency in power scaling. Noir in season 1 was definitely looking like he was gonna be a problem for HL. Nope. HL was clearly stronger than SB the first time they met. Not today.
Noir is stronger than HL physically. He subdued Maeve all by himself during ambush (whereas Maeve could hold HL off, as he is not THAT physically strong - just durable). But Black Noir is less durable, just like in comics. Noir can be harmed by bullets, explosions etc. Homelander is invincible to those kinds of means. Homelander took him out because he was less durable (despite his might) and let his guard down. Otherwise, it would be an interesting, even fight. HL did NOT fight back here. He was shocked by his father rejecting him, after all he went though (even killing Noir, his most reliable and trustworthy teammate) and all of his expectations. He wanted recognition and acceptance from SB so much that not getting them put him into a stupor. He did not even try to resist them in this scene and was just faintly asking “why?/don’t do it”). He was shocked and confused to his very core. Power scaling is super consistent here.
@@kingol4801 the same Noir who allowed Maeve to subdue him with one arm while simultaneously opening an almond joy with the other hand while ripping it open with her teeth then shoving it in his mouth? You mean that consistency in power scaling?
Homelander clearly didn't want to fight Soilder Boy, not one bit. Then when SB hits Ryan he turns on him practically one-shoting him out of the room and it ends there. How is that inconsistent with last time lol?
@@notallowed337 Noir got subdued because he got jumped. You can’t do much when somebody is grabbing your throat like that. But yes, the very same one. The one who jumped on Mauve and beat down Starlight without any fightback chance.
Honestly, Soldier Boy getting betrayed by his team twice is just sad. Dude was a jerk but stuck with his promise. And his hand to hand combat is pretty sick too, dude was fucking up the whole team no wonder russians wanted his ass alive.
Yeah, because we all know it would be physically impossible to just grab Ryan while he’s unconscious and get him out of there and let homelander and soldier boy duke it out alone. Instead it made more sense to turn on SB and fight him apparently. This season sucked
maeve...take ryan away to someplace safe..i'll be with you in a moment...was all that Bucher needed to say.. Sorry but this episode is so poorly written.. I mean the script could preserve Homelander foe the next season but this episode is like writtwn by five people in a minute
A kid tried to fight for his father's life. One person took him to other room and 2 kill his father. What emotionally going to happen to him? Butcher care about Ryan more than killing Homelander.
*They flopped this finale, I’m sorry* . Loved the episode at first.. but after rethinking - - the writing quality crashed and burned.. suddenly SB is a racist? Maeve survives falling 600ft while human?
……… Maeve survived because she landed on top of SB, which is invincible and absorbed all the force of the fall. SB was told to be racist (“he liked to rough up people in black neighborhoods”). Also, writing quality was Shakespearean here. You just fail to read it properly. HL’a, Butcher’s, Noir’s and Hughie’s arcs were top-notch. If you need elaboration, just tell me. But I would suggest you to re-watch it and take notes of EVERY dialogue and it’s storytelling purpose.
@@kingol4801 Shakespearean? stfu - this was terrible and the least thought out episode - you can't survive that fall if you land on someone or something that's strong.. but go ahead and keep making poor excuses for bad writing
I forgive the boys writer for this finale poor show considering how good the previous episodes was.. Yes right over entertaining season but they missed few chances here 1. Soldiers boy was more reasonable to kill homelander here, butcher shop reason not enough 2. Maeves alive secret should have kept secret till next season 3. Maeves survival from fall not acceptable 4. Vicky's absence from this season finale 5 . Startling s poor show
@@flaym. nope he doesn't kill people for fun as homelander does he is not as ruthless as homelander i mean sure he is an Asshole but he won't just be a brutal murderer like homelander soldier boy Goes by his code e'en after knowing home lander was his son he didn't join him he'll even after knowing his grand son was there he still stick to the plan Coz he knew homelander is just a monster who he needs to stop
@@happyzone1000 yes I did say he is an Asshole but when he came back he didn't go on murdering civillans for fun and he knew he had to stop homelander because he was just like him but bigger monster than him soldier boy was a asshole but not a complete maniac he did fight wars and saved citizens but yeah killing some and torturing his teammates beating up on them was not cool but still he wanted to redeem himself by doing the right thing taking responsibility for his screwed up son if he was maniac and monster he woulf have join homelander and together would have wreck havoc and nobody would be Able to stop them
@Calevra Iscariot You lose powers a bit slowly i guess, when soldier boy's explosion hit kimiko, she should've also died as she smashed through the walls but didn't.
@Calevra Iscariot it is bad, inconsistent writing. Would have made sense if the blast happened in the ground but nope it happened mid air and she still survived the fall despite losing the powers
@Calevra Iscariot I dunno, we should at least get a solid explanation how Maeve survived. Looked like she had a broken arm at least, or was that from the dmg from HL's laser? The writing has been kind of consistent, so I doubt they would cheese it out at the end of the season just cause they want Maeve to have a happy ending. Maybe she let go of him after they fell ?
No if the blast hits any supes they will become powerless even if its homelander and I agree with u on one point how did she survived the fall if she was powerless I think she got slowly stripped of her powers
Everyone’s saying Soldier Boy’s the only one who stuck to the plan, yet Maeve was whooping Homelander throughout And the rest of the Boys were already planning to take down Soldier Boy Ultimately though, everything that happened here was the result of a lot of mixed emotions
The worst suspect is probably butcher he was hellbent back then to kill homelander, he would do anything just to have him killed. But right at the moment he suddenly attacked sb as he gets ready to kill homelander. If it was about ryan, he would have already yeeted ryan out of the way instead of wait untile sb prepares his ability
When people say the plan they mean, they kill the rest of payback (noir) then focus on homelander. Maeve, as far as we know, wasn’t aware of that and just probably thought butcher got SB just too off homelander
I actually loved this scene. I know I know everyone still remembers the plan and they fucked it up but this part when HL seriously though SB was gonna join him and Ryan really hit me in the feels.
And now Maeve is satisfied. She got a good hit on HL and made his nose bleed, saved Starlight and the others, back to normal, can live off the rest of her life as a normal human being with her lover.
It’s a mental thing. He’s so stunned soldier boy isn’t the father he wants, that he’d affirm all his insecurities and try to take him out. Hesitating to fight back out of some vague hope daddy’ll change his mind about him.
He wants his father's love or any parent really so bad that I think if not for Ryan he would've accepted death over that rejection. Honelander is a paradox of godlike power and crippling human weakness at war with itself which is why solder boy sees him as pathetic.
If you listen closely and you might need a headphone you can hear him mentally breaking down saying "Don't do this". Pretty much Homelander wanted a family but to then realize his father treats him this way is all walls falling down on him.
I forgive the boys writer for this finale poor show considering how good the previous episodes was.. Yes right over entertaining season but they missed few chances here 1. Soldiers boy was more reasonable to kill homelander here, butcher shop reason not enough 2. Maeves alive secret should have kept secret till next season 3. Maeves survival from fall not acceptable 4. Vicky's absence from this season finale 5 . Startling s poor show
@@karn01 ,1) Butcher stop SB because Butcher priorities Ryan's well being over death of homelander. If They had grab Ryan while SB killing his father. It gonna emotionally damage that kid. Specially when He trying to save his father and accidentally killed own mother in past. Butcher understand that. So He told SB to back off. 2) I am ok with both options. Personally prefer they already show it. 3) agree. 4) She is set up for future
Agree, this season was probably my favorite one, but they messed up with this final episode. Even if they went with something predictable like Homelander killing Soldier Boy or Soldier Boy taking Homelander's powers and Soldier Boy being S4's villain, It would've been better than what we got tbh.
He wasn’t going along with the plan.. if Homelander wasn’t so emotional - he would’ve sided against The Boys… in a sense - he still went with the plan - he just had HIS OWN reasons to kill him.. then Butcher tried to kill him which was stupid.
Nah. He just was abusive to his family, like Butcher’s father. He found him “weak” and unworthy of being his heir. It is not about upholding the deal or anything. Soldier Boy always pursued his agenda, in every situation.
this finale was kinda trash but the whole season I really liked. I feel like they didn’t miss until the most important episode, but I hope they continue to upgrade in quality. I love this show I don’t wanna see it pull a cw after the third season
Finale was amazing, the strongest point of the whole series. Homelander and Butcher were finally given justice. Black Noir though…. Always a senseless martyr in the entanglements of other’s agendas.
Maeve surviving was such trash plot armor writing.Also her being able to fight homelander, in the comics she can’t even scratch him and gets killed in a second. Clear nonsense buff and plot armor cause…wamen i guess and we’re all about woke right?
@@kingexplosionmurder3764 I assume Soldier boy was on the bottom of the fall. that plus landing in bags of soft garbage is enough for me to suspend my disbelief when it comes to her surviving.
Im calling it hl will sacrifice himself for ryan. Im guessing, butcher will try to nuke a city where ryan s being kidnapped and hl will take the nuke away. Dyinh in the process and saving ryan.
@@gregordrizzlewing7339 yeah, but there are also some similarities, and I know that allot of things are different in the series from the graphic novel, but I’m just saying, it’s not an “out there” theory that they could give Homelander and pity, or redemption ending.
@@thelegend3965 Yeah, he will be back. He's way too important to die just like that. He 'needed' to be betrayed like this (again!) to finally have a good reason to go after Homelander. Maybe he'll even join The Boys after that, who knows.
@@Enoch610 yeah. I’m curious to see what they do with him, but I’m even more curious to see what they do with Ryan next season, because I can’t lie, that smile at the end scared me.
I highly doubt he could survive having his heart punched out. But we'll have to wait and see. I will admit it was a bit weird to give him the flashback and cute animated friends only for him to die.
I'm honestly glad Homelander didn't die. I cannot wait to see him training Ryan. I know it's all messed up but the Father Son dynamic is pretty cool here. Obviously Ryan is highly likely to become just as much of a monster but at the same time, Ryan brings out the humanity in Homelander and maybe, eventually, Homelander himself will realize the error of his ways through Ryan. Thus having to put his son back on the right path.
Homelander wasn't injected with V, he was created from Soldier Boy's DNA, so I'm curious if that blast would have any effect on him . Same goes for Ryan.
... but we've only seen the blast's effects on Supes directly injected with V and not those created via another Supes DNA ( Homelander/ Ryan). It also doesn't affect Soldier Boy.
@@DVDVAMPIRE01 Actually in a way we did, but in a small detail. Pop back to herogasm episode when they have hl pinned down and he tries to use his eyebeams. You can see him start to freak out because his eyebeams won't fire which causes him to flee.
I wonder if homelander would even lose his powers. Soldier doesn't lose his when he uses it and homelander wasn't simply injected with V he was from from it. Soldier Boy is his father after all. The show does have a bunch of inconsistencies tho.
This fight made no sense. They coulda knocked Ryan out and tossed him out of the room without him getting killed. And just depowered Homelander. What happened to at any cost? They had the bastard right there.
Everyone is saying how they wouldn't reasonably work with Soldier Boy in the end, but WTF was with Soldier Boy suddenly getting obsessed with ganking the kid? All he he had to do was go "Fine, take the kid" to Butcher and plan is back on. There was zero reason for half of what anyone was doing.
…… You fail to see the metaphor :( Soldier boy is JUST LIKE Butcher’s father. He deemed his offspring weak and unworthy of being his heir simply because they displayed emotion. Destroying others because of his own insecurities and toxic masculinity deeply engraved within. Hence, the conflict between Butcher and Solider is dejavu in a sense. It is a clear parallel to Butcher deciding to finally stand up to his father and concluding his character ark. Hence there were so many “Lenny” moments/mentions in this episode.
Mannn the moment SB pushed Ryan should’ve been the exact moment homelander goes crazy on SB not butcher fighting SB, this whole season was leading up to this point but nah they messed it up, had so much high expectations for the finale because all the episodes have been great and the past finales but nah this one wasn’t it fr
I little disagree about HL. Homelander looking after Ryan instead of going crazy on SB show that He care about Ryan's well being more than putting out his anger. Which was very good take in my opinion.
….. Somebody missed the entire point of both HL’s and Butcher’s characters. Bravo. Learn to analyze the story, pls. It is not a fighting game - motivation and personality matter. Homelander always wanted a family. He is not inherently evil - just messed up and a victim turned evil. Him protecting Ryan and being phased by SB’s actions is staying in-character. Butcher has a soft spot for HIS family ever since his abusive father causes Lenny’s suicide. HENCE there were 2+ mentions of Lenny in this episode. When SB was acting just like Butcher’s father (emotion is weakness, family means does not deserve remorse) - Butcher snapped, also in-character. Black noir’s death was perfect, as he was always a martyr getting the other end of stick NOT because of his own fault. He always tangled up in other’s agendas and suffered, and died as a martyr too. Just be more considerate of the literature implications here, please. This episode has Shakespeare-like writing, lol.
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Sticking to the plan after being betrayed by your squad? Now that's soldiering.
Being a soldier *Chad look into the distance*
Sharpe memes? on The Boys videos?
@@ChuckPalomo Now thats memeing
I honestly thought people were gonna regret complimenting SB so much until the Black Noir flashback. Instead, he's now the new chad. They're definitely going to bring him back in Season 4 because of his growth in popularity.
The fault was not butcher's, sir! Queen Maeve must answer!
I love it how all of the main characters unanimously agreed that taking out soldier boy should be top priority. Despite soldier boy being less powerful and much more sane than homelander.
I’m pretty sure it’s cause Soldier shoulder checked a child. That he knows is his grandchild, and it about to kill his son in front of this grandchild. All the main characters have shit morality, but I think they all have a line. Or just dumb plot stuff
I mean, Maeve could have knocked out Ryan and take him away, then back and kill HL
@@geomeopeoleo1740 suddenly they dont care about eliminating the overpowered homelander when that was their only chance. Now they can go back to season 1 and 2 and suffer the bully of homelander all over again...episode 8 is stupid
IKR plot armors a bitch ain’t it?
@@JonBlack413 It sure is! The Plot armour is bad but the bad writing is atrocious.
SB is fucking ruthless but man kept his end of the deal even after finding out the target was his son
all cus Butcher doesn't know how to talk to kids properly
He kept his end of deal because He is ruthless. Like Butcher's father. Who abuse his sons because they are little puff, weak, looking for love of family. If Homelander were not near breakdowns for love of his father and son. Then SB have thought his son as "Real Man". Like Butcher father was praising Him for beating teacher.
@@helloasa9296 so dumb SB shared a vulnerable moment with butch about how his father is a piece of shit and he would like kids and go be better than him only to say the same as his father did to HL. stupid writing.
@@helloasa9296 I'm gonna need you to look at all the shit homelander did, soldier boy was right it was too late for homelander, and he is sorry he wasn't there.
Yep Homelander got him there. Gave a better pep talk to his son
@@marethyu.t1724 I think you misunderstood Soldier Boy's those lines. Soldier Boy was not criticising Homelander's evil deeds. Soldier Boy criticise Homelander's begging for love, seeking for attention. Soldier Boy was all about that fake masculinity. " Real man" don't get scared , "Real man" not cry type bullshit. For not teaching this bullshit He was sorry. Not for Homelander's other evil acts.
Soldier boy the only one that stuck to the plan 💀
This episode seemed like lazy writing. The presence of Ryan felt forced and butcher throwing the first punch after soldier boy ask him why he lasered him. As well as Maeve somehow surviving the blast practically unscarred.
@@higuy8772 It starts here I guess.
Maeve surviving is the craziest thing imo. I'm really confused how she did that
@@rayvonvelez3129 just plot armor, the fall alone should’ve killed her since their powers get deactivated
@@rayvonvelez3129 yeah definitely doesn't make sense lol tho I am Glad Maeve got a happy ending
Sb just trying to keep his end of the deal
thing is the moment he finished he probably would've just been the next homelander
@@Redd-Monarch There's no probably to it. He already was back in his day with Pay Back. He would have gotten accustomed to modern times and its luxuries and been just as selfish, abusive, and self indulgent as he was before.
@@Maestro-K1121 I don't know, it seems like he doesn't really care about that, even before he didn't really care about the attention
@@Maestro-K1121 Except he can't he is a terrorist now in the eyes of the Public he will never be as big as he was back then.
@@TheHandofDestiny Yeah, he's not like Homelander. He's just arrogant, narcissistic, and wants to be number one, not loved. Homelander wants to be loved.
The vibe that I got from homelander was so different in this episode, while he encountered soldier boy he was the most "human" he's ever been, seemed like he wasn't even trying to escape when he got him he was just shocked that his dad wanted to kill him, so weird that I sympathized him, he's so irredeemable at this point but... idk it feels weird im speechless about his character development
I was about to say the same thing. He wasn't even fighting back when Soldier Boy was powering up. He just whispered like, "please don't do this..." He didn't even want to fight Maeve. If you watch when she first starts fighting him, all he does is push her away.
Finally someone else gets it. Everyone's all over him trying to remind us of his past wrongdoings. But couldn't we just have let him have this moment? As you said he didn't want to struggle with SB choking him, he was emotionally hurt that his own father would do this and that Noir was right. He finally snapped out of it when SB hit Ryan.
I was like holy shit, I actually am rooting for Homelander when he was introducing SB to Ryan.
FFS I hate how this show makes me side with Homelander and then makes me feel dumb as fuck for doing it 😭 he really is a victim in a way
Everyone deserves redemption. Homelander was a missile with no target going around randomly untill he found the emptiness(family) inside of him. Now he just wants to be with his son and give him the life free of abuse. Awesome ending except the part Maive surviving the fall after her powers deactivated mid air)
Fuck that, he killed Noir I'll never forgive him!
This episode seemed a bit off. Black Noir given an arc just to be killed off instantly? Meave Taking an explosion but to survive?
I feel like noir isn’t dead. There’s something more wierd about that guy that we aren’t seeing.
What about the heroes that survived Herogasam. HL said 7 of them did.
True, all of this season was great, but the final episode made me feel like we are back to season 2, like this season didn't happen. No consecuences, no one died. The only important facts are 1) Maeve lost his powers; 2) Frenchie and Kimiko had a certain character development; 3) Ryan went to Homelander's side.
Other than that, this season easily could've not happened.
@@rodolfo7710 Black Noir died, Homelander killed someone in public and nobody batted an eye, Butcher is dying in a few months, A-train lost everything relationshipwise and gained the ability to run, Soldier boy got captured by Mallory, Victoria Neuman is the vice president. Lot of big shit happened in this episode that you are overlooking.
Black Noir’s ark always was serving its storytelling narrative - he was an innocent tangled up in other’s agendas and plots.
He died in character, in vain and purposelessly.
He is a martyr, which serves as a catalyst for highlighting the senselessness of HL’s actions and inevitability of HL’s demise.
HL will die because of his conflict in emotions, as it is his Achilles heel (in this scene, he killed Black Noir, even though if he did not he might have fared with him better vs others).
We all thought soldier boy was gonna betray butcher but butcher betrayed soldier boy
Lol yeah, ive watched a lot of youtubers predict it to happen. The boys really never fails to subvert our expectations. I wonder what would happen next season now that temp v is a thing, are they gonna go through with what happens in comics where they permanently get their supes powers?
SB crossed the line when he hurt Ryan and that set him off. He probably should've given SB a heads up on not hurting his late wife's son.
@@RitsychServare Ryan fucking lazered him where's crossing the line?
@@shady8261 He's still a kid. Plus, he's obviously a lot stronger than Ryan
@@RitsychServare there wasn’t really any way for butcher to know and give him a heads up but he probably should have said something like he was his kid so soldier boy just assume homelander stole some kid
poor soldier boy .. betrayed like 2 time
Honestly if only he was less of a dislikable arsehole this could have all been prevented.
He brought it upon himself
I don't think he deserved this one, he stick to the plan and saw thing trough the end and still got betrayed
brought it upon himself
@@colephelps2912 Yeah, butcher could've just said "kill Homelander, not his son" but nope they start fighting
I feel like they probably made Soldier Boy more likeable than they intended to. He’s been a big hit with the fans and not necessarily in an ironic way.
Also MM called him racist, but I never saw any evidence of that? They didn’t even explain the context of what happened with his grandpa.
The implication is that SB used to go to town black people much like Bluehawk id assume.
@@crystallxix1493 but then it doesn’t make sense how he praised bill Cosby so much, Ik yeah he’s a monster but he is black, and SB didn’t mention it
@@crystallxix1493 i honestly don’t think he’s like bluehawk. he never expressed it at least
@@LoneWolf872 just because he praised bill Cosby doesn’t mean he wasn’t still racist. Many white people back in the 30s-60s would go hate crime blacks and still buy their music. Besides we simply don’t know enough about SB. Just the fact that everyone around him hates his guts and that he enjoyed beating the shit out of people.
sb killed more white people than brown people this season lol
if they wanted to go that route they should have just called him bigoted instead
Soldier Boy exploded mid air while Maeve was on top of him.
😏
LMFAO Even under the circumstances Sb is a total chad
I couldn't stop laughing when he flung Ryan XD
Did anyone notice that Homelander was kind of ready to die in this scene. You can see him closing his eyes before Ryan saving him.
Yep. All he wanted was a family, and that pain of rejection was too much for him.
Homelander went through literal hell. Far worse than that Russian torture of SB.
He just wanted closure but was denied of it. Luckily, he still got it, as he should have.
@@kingol4801 bruh
You know what it would've been better in my opinion if they just show them succeeding in blasting Homelander but turns out he is immune to Soldier Boy's depowering blast because he's a natural supe. Same case with Ryan.
That was my guess too.
Other Supes have V run through their veins. A finite amount of it, injected.
Homelander and Ryan produce V naturally (they got only a small injection/inheritance, and their cells learnt to synthesize V in the body as they grew).
So, even if they lose powers temporarily, their bodies should produce V over time and restored their powers eventually. Unlike other Supes, which do not have V on genetic level.
@@kingol4801exactly
Ryan is very unlucky for boys....first he killed butcher's wife and now saving homelander 😗....the boys should take him out first ...he is the real threat
Damn good thought
He’s a child wtf is wrong with you, we don’t kill children.
Season 4 Ryan die like a chicken
Seriously hate that boy
@@ashutosht13 yeah same. He basically spoiled brat and soon be more fucked up than HL himself.
This my new favorite show! Homelander is the guy you love to hate. Seriously hope they never kill him off, the show just wouldn't be worth watching without him.
Nah. I support Homelander without any irony.
He is the true victim of the series.
But it’s true that he deserves happiness. Let’s hope that he can learn some empathy, as Ryan’s natural kindness should rub off on him and make him softer.
Homelander redemption ark (even in sacrificial way for Ryan) would be top-notch!
@@kingol4801 yup, let's redeem a guy who fucking forced a suicidal girl to kill herself that'll work
I hope he wins in the end.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd Same
@@Ready-ForTheEndsame
HL closed his eyes like he gave up mentally........and said please....wow....
If they ended this season with SB taking HL's power then retiring then that would have been cool.
Then there's no show lol
@@REYTRACER would have been better than butcher taking the show backwards 2 seasons betraying soldier boy the only one who can and WANTS to help him.
@@JOBXR ……
That fight was a parallel to Butcher’s father.
It was a masterful metaphor and it totally flew over your head.
Butcher always has soft spot for family, and SB’s words were spitting image of his abusive, heartless father.
Thanks Butcher you just assassinated 3 whole years of show plot to "keep a promise". Wtf is there left to fight for now? The only one who could contend with HL was Soldier Boy and they betrayed him. Now Maeve is powerless what can Starlight do? They...are...screwed.
True but now homelander has his son so I doubt he even cares
I agree this seems lazy in terms of writing. I hope soldier boy comes back and annihilates butcher for betraying him, depowers homelander, and takes Ryan.
The writers will pull something out of midair most likely
Starlight was able to pierce SB’s skin with the blast (look at cut forehead). And THAT is not her full potential.
For reference, SB was left unscratched by a nuke. That is some INSANE concentrated damage.
If Starlight sucks in the full power of a nuclear reactor, she could 100-0 Homelander with the explosion, in theory.
Also, her powers are THE STRONGEST of all the seven and generally slept on by unscientific audience.
She can absorb electricity. Human body (even one of superpowered individual) uses electricity for heart and brain functions. She can just kill ANYBODY by sucking their natural electricity out, invincible or not.
Soldier boy did good
The little brat attacking his grandfather like that deserved to learn a lesson
Lol.
SB was the most toxic character this episode.
Somebody suffers from toxic masculinity as well, lol. Somebody being you (in case you don’t get the implication).
Interesting that some feel Soldier Boy is less powerful than Homelander. I see him as having greater Invulnerability and *possibly* Strength, but Homelander just overpowers him due to his greater variety of Powers.
Shit ending sadly, expected a huge rematch between homelander vs soldier boy. But nah, we got the power of friendship vs soldier boy
Bahahahahahahaha💀
I think sb considered his offer until hl started acting all puppy dog and showed his vulnerable side which sb based on his childhood views as weakness which he completely hates.
Yes. Soldier Boy had very narrow view on "Real man". Every episode He talk about being "Real man". Homelander showing all these emotions disappointed him.
At the end SB was like Butcher's father. He want to beat his son for being "little puff". An abusive father.
Likewise, BECAUSE butcher’s abuse father was exactly like that, Butcher had soft sport for family and sided AGAINST SB.
It all makes sense.
Homelander is scared of soldier boy and this scene right here shows it
He is not scared. He is appalled, confused and shocked by the reception of the only person who’s recognition and presence he craved so much.
@@kingol4801 homelander used Ryan to shield him from SB homelander is a narcissist but when he saw his face bruised that scared him remember homelander does not know what pain is SB showed him pain even noir was scared of SB he killed noir for SB that was gonna be his back up trump card if Ryan didn’t play along again he’s a narcissist crazy but he’s not stupid he told noir you can’t penetrate SB’s skin
Weird episode. Maev was sudenly strong enough to compete with HL?
she’s the third most powerful supe and way better trained than HL
Maeve was trained and knows tactics while Homelander just knows he's powerful enough not to train.
HL didn't want to hurt her that much and wanted to fight SB as soon as possible
But in the middle of the fight he snaps and goes for the kill
@@outrider425 why did she need 5 heroes as she said before then? Why did she need SB? Entire plot loses meaning. All she needed was starlight and butcher on V + they have kimiko.
It wasnt sudden like at all
Soldier Boy became his father as did Butcher
Now we go back to season 1 and 2 where they are overshadowed by homelander and screwing over humanity even further
This reminded me of when anakin chops off mace windu's hand when he's about to kill palpatine
Butcher could have taken Ryan out of scene but 🤡
……
Somebody completely missed the emotional metaphor.
Flew over your head, huh? 🤡🤡🤡
@@kingol4801 also, does he really think Ryan wouls let butcher do that? Lmao
Now soldier boy is the most "the boys" character
I think everyone is missing a really important POINT. Soldierboy wouldn't necessarily have killed Homelander or the boy, it might have just made them both human. I guess the show decides who can and who can't survive Soldierboy's chest blast. If I was Butcher I would have taken the chance that the kid could have lead a normal (no powers) life.
They would not lose their powers permanently BTW.
Other Supes lose their power because they only get a finite amount of V in their system from the injection.
Both Ryan and Homelander were made to have V on genetic level. Hence it can be inherited and hence they are substantially stronger than others. Their cells can synthesize V (or else it does not make sense, as that small V amount in embryo would NOT be enough for Homelander to grow into a super-powered adult).
Even if they lost their power for a moment, their cells would produce more quite quickly.
Power of genetics, lol.
@@kingol4801 Which we didn't get a confirmation of. I think they thought if it went like that and Homelander regained his powers while in confinement that it would kill the buildup, but who knows.
Honestly i don't understand what Soldier Boy did wrong here; he fulfilled his part as agreed, and when he did attack Ryan, he didn't do it a brutal way as to justify Butcher's reaction. Honestly, this scene makes no sense to me
It is a metaphor for Butcher’s father.
Lenny was mentioned in the episode a lot, as a foreshadowing. It was always his soft spot and the very reason of Butcher’s “tough” persona.
Butcher’s dad had the same toxic masculinity issue (emotion is weak - proceeds with punishment) AND he has no remorse for his own family.
That struck Butcher on his very core and he had to fight SB, in a closure to his own unavenged venture with his father (his father died before he could do anything to him).
This episode was truly Shakespearean in terms of quality of every creative decision.
If you want, I can tell you more metaphors and deeper meanings in this episode. Just tell me which one (HL, Noir, Maeve, Hugie etc)
@@kingol4801 bruh, Butcher literally just told SB to kill his own son because he wasn't actually his son since he didn't raise him but then he goes the exact opposite way with Ryan
All these mfs just decided that SB was the bigger threat because of what? Stupid fucking reasons
HL is literally threatening to take over the world and they just decided that SB is the greater evil wtf is this shit
The season went downhill when The Legend told Hughie Soldier Boy is a fraud. This is a bad message indicating that all supes except Starlight is evil. They had a chance to make Soldier Boy different but made him bad as all other supes. I get the cynism but the show is getting messier. Season 2 showed a scene in which Edgar told Homelander that Soldier Boy’s heroism in fighting Nazis helped Frederick Vought be pardoned. The Legend was confusing because there was no Vought Corporation during WWll. If there was, it is insane how the U.S Government allowed a Nazi to start his own pharmaceutical businesses. Did the writers forget that Season 2 scene to the point they retconned their own story?
I am upset. Soldier Boy carried Season 3. However, the Series Finale showed that Soldier Boy and the Boys’ missions play no role in the outcome of the story. If Soldier Boy wasn’t freed, everything would’ve still happened the way it is. Homelander would’ve gotten Ryan back and continue to receive support by his followers and the U.S Government. The only thing the Boys team managed to accomplish is pass through therapy sessions which actually gave some good character development. This is the season in which the Boys team actions did nothing. Therefore, they lost to Homelander and the villains won this season.
I know people say the political messaging has been there from the start, and it has, but this season was ridiculously ham fisted about it and it kept taking me out of the story. The Soldier Boy is Covid thing was also super stupid because the analogy doesn't hold up with 2 seconds of thinking about it.
Half of what they wanted to do with Soldier Boy in the end seemed to be them saying WW2 veterans weren't really heroes because they were rough and came from another era.
I don't believe a word that comes out of Legend's mouth. That guy comes off as the nerd who makes shit up/exaggerates to fit in with the cool kids.
@@BlazingOwnager Soldier Boy isn't really the ham fisted part. It's the orange man bad/alt right analogues they're trying to make. They're just bad.
Hate Ryan. Hate homelander. Hate Annie.
TEAM SOLDIER BOY
whats wrong with Annie
Homelander is gonna use ryan because he know he is butcher's weakness,ryan will protect homelander and he is a kid so if you are gonna kill homelander you have to go through ryan and this might lead to ryan's death,maybe butcher might kill him
Right now I disagree when he went to check on Ryan he didn’t even care about himself specifically when there were three persons trying to kill him
This part was hard to watch but it also paved the way for season 4 so I can’t complain. Lol.
I feel like this season had no repercussions for any of there actions. Everyone survives, everyone is healed and relationships stay the same.
This 180 isnt always good. Butcher chose a very fickle reason to suddenly turn against soldier boy. He could have atleast waited till they radiated homelander. Then they all could have ganged upon soldier boy. It's as if Butcher suddenly had a brain freeze in the most critical juncture of the fight.
Butcher don't wanted to get hated by Ryan. He told Soldier Boy to back off. If Butcher and team had back away Ryan and kill Homelander. For whose life Ryan was willing to fight. What's gonna happen to Ryan in future and what He gonna think about Butcher.
@@helloasa9296 Butcher doesn't care what Ryan thinks of him, if anything he thinks its better if Ryan stops loving him completely. Look at him literally telling Ryan off earlier in the season.
He just got too emotional and scared that SB could kill Ryan in that moment, and judging by the blast later in the episode, Ryan likely would have died. Plus it sucks he'd have to see both of his parents die in front of him.
@@SuperPaez , Butcher understand killing a father near kid gonna mess up Boy for whole life. Specially if that kid trying to fight to save his father. Even if Soldier Boy promise to not hurt Ryan but only kill Homelander. Is that Boy gonna be same?
@@SuperPaez What? Butcher definitely cares. He was 3 seconds away from bursting into tears when Ryan yelled at him. He simply thought it was best to distance him
Facts
Wanna act like an adult, get hit like one Ryan
This shows that Ryan WILL be more powerful than Homelander
homelander was lazering people out the womb i doubt it
Kids in TV shows just ruin everything lmao
Just like irl
My god this is turning into Scarlet Witch/Reed Richards/Black Bolt all over again. Can't we all just thank Ryan for giving us another season instead?
Thank you, Ryan. Also, watch out, Ryan.
Because it is justified plot point.
Also, even if Scarlet Witch died, she would just snap back to her real body, and all those heroes would have left would be the ashes of another Wanda (single mother of 2…. Would be fun discussion afterwards: “Sorry kids, we nuked your mother without trying to save her first”).
AND because it is superhero world, Scarlet Witch would come up with some other way of getting what she wants, eventually. Bad guys always come back, and she would definitely not be dead because of how Dreamwalking works.
@@kingol4801 Exactly. People just couldn't seem to get over Black Bolt not getting a chance nor Reed Richards being "smart". I think that was a show of strength, a one sided slaughter.
This is all Butcher's fault now
yes, I have a theory, which leads right after your video, instead of HL dying, Ryan dies while HL is de-powered. Both HL and Soldier Boy are kept in secured military facility i.e. under CIA and then in Season 4 the boys go after Vic Neuman and when Vic finds it difficult to handle The Boys on her own she frees HL from secured facility and gives him Compound V as was initially done to kimiko. Having has his kid died HL furious join hands with vic to take down The Boys and Butcher, and when The Boys find out that HL is out again with his powers, then The Boys again release SB. This time Butcher doesn't screw up and let SB takedown HL. Finally The Boys and SB go separate ways and The series ends
I bet this is what happened in payback
It’s seemed like HL really gave up for a moment.
He did and it is perfectly in character.
He craved for connection so much, and was denied it by the person who’s validation he wanted the most
@@kingol4801 It seems particularly cruel for Soldier Boy to say what he did because he knows exactly what it feels like to have a father say that to his son. That’s probably why he said. He knew it crushed him and he wanted to crush HL.
Ryan is gonna be crazy next season
I don't like what the script-writers did with Ryan. The boy Is a pain in the ass and now It seems that he Is up to be a jerk like his dad after that smile at the end.
He's a kid and he's about to watch them kill his father. What do you want him to do just stand there?
@@Red_567 his dad has always been a stranger to him. Though Is understandable that he must be feeling isolated after Becka's demise, Is pretty weird that suddenly he seems to have taken Homelander's side just like that.
@@eikrzatarra7867 that's because butcher was a idiot and cussed him out I ep 7 so like homelander he wants a parent so really everything bad that happened there was all butchers fault
@@Mr.Scott86 that's true. I give you that.
Ryan character stayed consistent he is supposed to be a pain in the ass u should be mad about what the writers did to Maeve Butcher MM all acting dumb as fuck going after SB when he is the only shot they got at killing homelander It really is bad writing unless its setting something Up for the future still very lazy
So they turn on the less evil, more sane character to fight with the more evil, less sane character? And of course, the latter now has his own Sidekick in Homelander Jr. Great decision making, honestly, this finale felt like we expected too much and they just didn't know how to deliver.
Maeve pulled an Austin Powers and used SB to break her fall 😂
Everybody saying soldier stick with the plan and stuff... But honestly i Just think he Gave up saving his "son" because he showed emotions... Every super in this serie is bad. The difference is that homelander is the "invicible" one. I dont think soldier boy is better,i think his thing with weakness its quite dangerous... The Sad part was the i was kind cheering for him,expecting better stuff...
my dude pulled off a star lord wtf..
Ryan is Brightburn
It's reasons like this that I hate kids in TV shows like this, because they always end up screwing shit up, EVERY TIME. Just like the one kid in the Strain that ended up nuking New York.
He did not screw up.
Ryan saved the show, lol
@@kingol4801 In which way did he save the show? He's the literal reason they didn't cap Homelander here.
@@ThePartisan13 Saving Homelander is saving the show.
There are no good guys or bad guys (except Vought). Just different perspectives.
@@kingol4801 I mean Homelander is an evil piece of shit, that should be common fuckin knowledge to anyone with a soul. But killing him and making Soldier Boy the next big bad would have been awesome even if it does deviate from the comics.
@@ThePartisan13 Nah. He is not evil too, btw.
You definition of evil is too tame.
I think it's Ryan fault.
And also butcher should have stick to the plan instead of fighting with SB himself. There was no reason to fight with him, he could have said no the kid or warn him and continued with the plan but I guess it was all plot
There was reason. Butcher care about Ryan. Atleast because of Becca. He was not going to kill Homelander near Ryan. Specially when Ryan try to fight for his father.
My whole problem with this was why didn't they just introduce a character more powerful than Soldier Boy or Homelander? It felt like the writers found themselves stuck and, for some reason, made some bullshit happen in order for both Soldier Boy and Homelander to survive. I would actually like to see a character that not only has OP power like Homelander Or Soldier Boy (or potentially stronger than both of them) ,but actually be dangerous with their intelligence. Outsmarting everyone and maybe have a big doomsday plan type of shit in mind, seeing as how deranged and insane that their world is. And i would like the writers to let that character win, to go against the norm of the "good guys beat bad guys" thing, considering this show is supposed to go against the whole superhero cliches. Have the bad guy actually succeed in destroying everyone.
What i don’t get is now u wanna keep your promise 🤣🤣 u told sb That homelander that being his kid don’t matter and he kept his word now the man who scorched the earth is pulling back lol
He kick the kidd broo
stopping SB from using his power made no sence. we already know powerful supes (kimko/maeve) survive the blast. homelander would of surived but lost his power same with maeve and ryan a little iffy but still worth the chance to take down homelander for good. Butcher could go either way, hes suped up and quite powerful but also only a temp version. He was already willing to die to stop homelander so i guess wouldnt cared if it took him out aswell
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Somebody does not understand Butcher character x 20……
Long story short - SB in this episode is metaphor for Butcher’s unresolved daddy issues. He acted/reasoned exactly like his father and got stopped by Butcher as a result.
It is further evidenced by many mentions of “Lenny” throughout the episode.
Open your eyes for deeper meaning, please!
Also, blast will not take away HL’s power, as V is naturally produced in his body (on genetic level), as opposed to other Supes (Ryan is the exception because of the identical reason).
Overall, every creative decision of this episode was pure brilliance. Writing was Shakespearean-level, which is pretty impressive for a superhero TV show.
Butcher, Ryan, Homelander, Noir etc - all were served BEST narrative-wise. Their character arks were masterfully concluded and storytelling elements just aligned so great.
@@kingol4801 you're giving this shit way too much credit they're just dragging the show on to milk some more money.out of it since their most succesful one
How many more fucking seasons are they going to keep doing this shit
Oh shit new character pops up, oops turns out he's villian gotta take him out
Also super close to getting HL oh well try again next season
Ryan looks so much different in this episode is it the hair cut?
he looks older.
um because time passed duh..
No consistency in power scaling.
Noir in season 1 was definitely looking like he was gonna be a problem for HL.
Nope.
HL was clearly stronger than SB the first time they met.
Not today.
Completely agree
Noir is stronger than HL physically. He subdued Maeve all by himself during ambush (whereas Maeve could hold HL off, as he is not THAT physically strong - just durable).
But Black Noir is less durable, just like in comics.
Noir can be harmed by bullets, explosions etc. Homelander is invincible to those kinds of means.
Homelander took him out because he was less durable (despite his might) and let his guard down. Otherwise, it would be an interesting, even fight.
HL did NOT fight back here. He was shocked by his father rejecting him, after all he went though (even killing Noir, his most reliable and trustworthy teammate) and all of his expectations. He wanted recognition and acceptance from SB so much that not getting them put him into a stupor.
He did not even try to resist them in this scene and was just faintly asking “why?/don’t do it”). He was shocked and confused to his very core.
Power scaling is super consistent here.
@@kingol4801 the same Noir who allowed Maeve to subdue him with one arm while simultaneously opening an almond joy with the other hand while ripping it open with her teeth then shoving it in his mouth?
You mean that consistency in power scaling?
Homelander clearly didn't want to fight Soilder Boy, not one bit. Then when SB hits Ryan he turns on him practically one-shoting him out of the room and it ends there. How is that inconsistent with last time lol?
@@notallowed337 Noir got subdued because he got jumped. You can’t do much when somebody is grabbing your throat like that.
But yes, the very same one. The one who jumped on Mauve and beat down Starlight without any fightback chance.
hl be like: 0:07 :v
0:20-0:22-0:24-0:25-0:28
I'm on team black noir and solider boy
If they're not dead...
Honestly, Soldier Boy getting betrayed by his team twice is just sad. Dude was a jerk but stuck with his promise. And his hand to hand combat is pretty sick too, dude was fucking up the whole team no wonder russians wanted his ass alive.
Yeah, because we all know it would be physically impossible to just grab Ryan while he’s unconscious and get him out of there and let homelander and soldier boy duke it out alone. Instead it made more sense to turn on SB and fight him apparently. This season sucked
Nice family
This ep was not good ...
this is a meh moment bruh this is just bad writing
I'm still confused on who is the good guys.
That’s a complex question in this series
0:28 L
maeve...take ryan away to someplace safe..i'll be with you in a moment...was all that Bucher needed to say.. Sorry but this episode is so poorly written.. I mean the script could preserve Homelander foe the next season but this episode is like writtwn by five people in a minute
A kid tried to fight for his father's life. One person took him to other room and 2 kill his father. What emotionally going to happen to him? Butcher care about Ryan more than killing Homelander.
But empowerment 🥺
*They flopped this finale, I’m sorry* . Loved the episode at first.. but after rethinking - - the writing quality crashed and burned.. suddenly SB is a racist? Maeve survives falling 600ft while human?
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Maeve survived because she landed on top of SB, which is invincible and absorbed all the force of the fall.
SB was told to be racist (“he liked to rough up people in black neighborhoods”).
Also, writing quality was Shakespearean here. You just fail to read it properly.
HL’a, Butcher’s, Noir’s and Hughie’s arcs were top-notch.
If you need elaboration, just tell me. But I would suggest you to re-watch it and take notes of EVERY dialogue and it’s storytelling purpose.
@@kingol4801 Shakespearean? stfu - this was terrible and the least thought out episode - you can't survive that fall if you land on someone or something that's strong.. but go ahead and keep making poor excuses for bad writing
What terrible writing.
Very stupid moment. Disappointed. The whole point of the season is ruined.
Fuq Butcher
I forgive the boys writer for this finale poor show considering how good the previous episodes was..
Yes right over entertaining season but they missed few chances here 1. Soldiers boy was more reasonable to kill homelander here, butcher shop reason not enough
2. Maeves alive secret should have kept secret till next season
3. Maeves survival from fall not acceptable
4. Vicky's absence from this season finale
5 . Startling s poor show
I have a feeling that your writing wouldn’t be too great, judging by this comment.
@@Planet_Combat gth
And this is why you're not the writer for this show.
You just copy pasted
@@TehPesky that was my original comment
Crappy Finale…. Changes premise of entire show
Ryan created the way for another season. The show could've ended there lol
Yeah, Ryan really screwed their world over, unfortunate but maybe he'll redeem himself later.
It wouldn't have ended there, Soldier Boy would pretty much just replace Homelander
@@flaym. nope he doesn't kill people for fun as homelander does he is not as ruthless as homelander i mean sure he is an Asshole but he won't just be a brutal murderer like homelander soldier boy Goes by his code e'en after knowing home lander was his son he didn't join him he'll even after knowing his grand son was there he still stick to the plan Coz he knew homelander is just a monster who he needs to stop
@@angadchalke1523 bro, M.M's family died because Soldier boy decides to throw a car into their house. He is just as insane with power as Homelander.
@@happyzone1000 yes I did say he is an Asshole but when he came back he didn't go on murdering civillans for fun and he knew he had to stop homelander because he was just like him but bigger monster than him soldier boy was a asshole but not a complete maniac he did fight wars and saved citizens but yeah killing some and torturing his teammates beating up on them was not cool but still he wanted to redeem himself by doing the right thing taking responsibility for his screwed up son if he was maniac and monster he woulf have join homelander and together would have wreck havoc and nobody would be Able to stop them
Tbh if Meave survived a blast from SB and a fall off a building, I dont think that Homelander would have died
@Calevra Iscariot You lose powers a bit slowly i guess, when soldier boy's explosion hit kimiko, she should've also died as she smashed through the walls but didn't.
@Calevra Iscariot it is bad, inconsistent writing. Would have made sense if the blast happened in the ground but nope it happened mid air and she still survived the fall despite losing the powers
@Calevra Iscariot I dunno, we should at least get a solid explanation how Maeve survived. Looked like she had a broken arm at least, or was that from the dmg from HL's laser?
The writing has been kind of consistent, so I doubt they would cheese it out at the end of the season just cause they want Maeve to have a happy ending. Maybe she let go of him after they fell ?
Even if it's fiction I don't think changes in your body would happen in an instand. When Himiko took V she ned a moment to get her powers back.
No if the blast hits any supes they will become powerless even if its homelander and I agree with u on one point how did she survived the fall if she was powerless I think she got slowly stripped of her powers
Everyone’s saying Soldier Boy’s the only one who stuck to the plan, yet Maeve was whooping Homelander throughout
And the rest of the Boys were already planning to take down Soldier Boy
Ultimately though, everything that happened here was the result of a lot of mixed emotions
The worst suspect is probably butcher he was hellbent back then to kill homelander, he would do anything just to have him killed. But right at the moment he suddenly attacked sb as he gets ready to kill homelander. If it was about ryan, he would have already yeeted ryan out of the way instead of wait untile sb prepares his ability
Well homelander wasn’t trying to kill her he was just pushing her around
When people say the plan they mean, they kill the rest of payback (noir) then focus on homelander. Maeve, as far as we know, wasn’t aware of that and just probably thought butcher got SB just too off homelander
I actually loved this scene. I know I know everyone still remembers the plan and they fucked it up but this part when HL seriously though SB was gonna join him and Ryan really hit me in the feels.
And now Maeve is satisfied. She got a good hit on HL and made his nose bleed, saved Starlight and the others, back to normal, can live off the rest of her life as a normal human being with her lover.
You cut out the best part... SB calling Ryan a little shit 😭😭
Attacking his grandpa like that
"That's a paddling"
I actually found myself rooting for Soldier Boy in this fight, Butcher and the boys are starting to sound like hypocrites now.
true, hopefully he comes back in s4 kills homelander and all the boys (especially kimiko and frenchie)
Me to I want solder boy to be a anti hero I hope he’s part of season 4
@@bronxprpapi i agree, he was literally the best part about season 3
@@meshofesha7789 went specifically kimiko and frenchie
@@alexreever5788 mm, kimiko, frenchie, starlight, they all annoying as fuck, hughie was fun this season but feminism wont let him be cool no more
Weird how when he homelander wasn’t even trying to fight back even though he held his own last time against soldier boy and butcher
It’s a mental thing. He’s so stunned soldier boy isn’t the father he wants, that he’d affirm all his insecurities and try to take him out. Hesitating to fight back out of some vague hope daddy’ll change his mind about him.
He wants his father's love or any parent really so bad that I think if not for Ryan he would've accepted death over that rejection. Honelander is a paradox of godlike power and crippling human weakness at war with itself which is why solder boy sees him as pathetic.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 right but I’m not gonna be able to sleep if black noir is really dead that was my guy
If you listen closely and you might need a headphone you can hear him mentally breaking down saying "Don't do this". Pretty much Homelander wanted a family but to then realize his father treats him this way is all walls falling down on him.
Last time soldier boy just did a chest blast, that makes him weak, he wrecked butcher, and maeve was keeping up with homelander
This episode was nothing but poor writing.
this finale was weak compared to the second season finale
I forgive the boys writer for this finale poor show considering how good the previous episodes was..
Yes right over entertaining season but they missed few chances here 1. Soldiers boy was more reasonable to kill homelander here, butcher shop reason not enough
2. Maeves alive secret should have kept secret till next season
3. Maeves survival from fall not acceptable
4. Vicky's absence from this season finale
5 . Startling s poor show
@@karn01 ,1) Butcher stop SB because Butcher priorities Ryan's well being over death of homelander. If They had grab Ryan while SB killing his father. It gonna emotionally damage that kid. Specially when He trying to save his father and accidentally killed own mother in past. Butcher understand that. So He told SB to back off.
2) I am ok with both options. Personally prefer they already show it.
3) agree.
4) She is set up for future
Thank you. The whole thing felt off.
Agree, this season was probably my favorite one, but they messed up with this final episode. Even if they went with something predictable like Homelander killing Soldier Boy or Soldier Boy taking Homelander's powers and Soldier Boy being S4's villain, It would've been better than what we got tbh.
Soldier boy was the only one willing to see it through to the end.
U said it bro
You mean killing anyone and being narcissistic
He wasn’t going along with the plan.. if Homelander wasn’t so emotional - he would’ve sided against The Boys… in a sense - he still went with the plan - he just had HIS OWN reasons to kill him.. then Butcher tried to kill him which was stupid.
Nah.
He just was abusive to his family, like Butcher’s father.
He found him “weak” and unworthy of being his heir.
It is not about upholding the deal or anything. Soldier Boy always pursued his agenda, in every situation.
this finale was kinda trash but the whole season I really liked. I feel like they didn’t miss until the most important episode, but I hope they continue to upgrade in quality. I love this show I don’t wanna see it pull a cw after the third season
Finale was weakest episode of the series nearly. Maybe should have ended with 3 seasons.
@@tristan2332 I feel like this finale is the weakest
Finale was amazing, the strongest point of the whole series.
Homelander and Butcher were finally given justice.
Black Noir though…. Always a senseless martyr in the entanglements of other’s agendas.
Maeve surviving was such trash plot armor writing.Also her being able to fight homelander, in the comics she can’t even scratch him and gets killed in a second. Clear nonsense buff and plot armor cause…wamen i guess and we’re all about woke right?
Why? she is pretty durable and we know Kimiko survived the blast.
@@cjmk5923 Even if she was durable enough to survive the explosion, it would've sapped her of her powers and the fall should've been the end of Maeve.
@@kingexplosionmurder3764 And if the blast sent her back into the building, thus halting her fall?
@@kingexplosionmurder3764 I assume Soldier boy was on the bottom of the fall. that plus landing in bags of soft garbage is enough for me to suspend my disbelief when it comes to her surviving.
@@cjmk5923 she lost her powers when soldier boy exploded thus she shouldn't be able to survive the fall
This episode was lazy writing for sure.
Ryan is who can stop hl not cause he can overpower him with strenght but because he could talk sense into him as a loved one can.
Im calling it hl will sacrifice himself for ryan. Im guessing, butcher will try to nuke a city where ryan s being kidnapped and hl will take the nuke away. Dyinh in the process and saving ryan.
@@estebanbr7596 that’s a stretch but not to much 😂
@@gregordrizzlewing7339 I don’t know, I mean they did have a sort of pity/redemption ending for Homelander in the graphic novel.
@@thelegend3965 black noir was a homelander in the comics stop following the reading material they doing it they own way
@@gregordrizzlewing7339 yeah, but there are also some similarities, and I know that allot of things are different in the series from the graphic novel, but I’m just saying, it’s not an “out there” theory that they could give Homelander and pity, or redemption ending.
F for Black Noir. I really didn't want him to die.
I doubt he’s dead. He’ll be back.
@@thelegend3965 Yeah, he will be back. He's way too important to die just like that. He 'needed' to be betrayed like this (again!) to finally have a good reason to go after Homelander. Maybe he'll even join The Boys after that, who knows.
@@Enoch610 yeah. I’m curious to see what they do with him, but I’m even more curious to see what they do with Ryan next season, because I can’t lie, that smile at the end scared me.
I highly doubt he could survive having his heart punched out. But we'll have to wait and see. I will admit it was a bit weird to give him the flashback and cute animated friends only for him to die.
I'm honestly glad Homelander didn't die. I cannot wait to see him training Ryan. I know it's all messed up but the Father Son dynamic is pretty cool here. Obviously Ryan is highly likely to become just as much of a monster but at the same time, Ryan brings out the humanity in Homelander and maybe, eventually, Homelander himself will realize the error of his ways through Ryan. Thus having to put his son back on the right path.
Homelander wasn't injected with V, he was created from Soldier Boy's DNA, so I'm curious if that blast would have any effect on him . Same goes for Ryan.
He got the ability after he ended up in Russia so the DNA they used would be before he got the nuke power
@@Kyle-gu3ge correct... but we've seen it depowered Supes that were directly injected with V.... not on Supes created from someone's DNA.
the nuclear reactor probably messed up his dna to give him the laser blast so he changed. different dna than homelander and ryan
... but we've only seen the blast's effects on Supes directly injected with V and not those created via another Supes DNA ( Homelander/ Ryan). It also doesn't affect Soldier Boy.
@@DVDVAMPIRE01 Actually in a way we did, but in a small detail. Pop back to herogasm episode when they have hl pinned down and he tries to use his eyebeams. You can see him start to freak out because his eyebeams won't fire which causes him to flee.
I jst lke SB badass character he does not care if it is his son or grandson, as no one should take his limelight.
It's not about limelight he just can't stand that fact that HL is not a man enough.
Bro what the fuck its not even about limelight what the fuck
SB was my fav character by far the dude just dont give a fuck
I wonder if homelander would even lose his powers. Soldier doesn't lose his when he uses it and homelander wasn't simply injected with V he was from from it. Soldier Boy is his father after all. The show does have a bunch of inconsistencies tho.
This fight made no sense. They coulda knocked Ryan out and tossed him out of the room without him getting killed. And just depowered Homelander. What happened to at any cost? They had the bastard right there.
Homelander is not bastard. SB is.
Everyone is saying how they wouldn't reasonably work with Soldier Boy in the end, but WTF was with Soldier Boy suddenly getting obsessed with ganking the kid? All he he had to do was go "Fine, take the kid" to Butcher and plan is back on. There was zero reason for half of what anyone was doing.
True.. when Butcher told him “don’t kill MM” he was okay with being told who to not kill.
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You fail to see the metaphor :(
Soldier boy is JUST LIKE Butcher’s father. He deemed his offspring weak and unworthy of being his heir simply because they displayed emotion. Destroying others because of his own insecurities and toxic masculinity deeply engraved within.
Hence, the conflict between Butcher and Solider is dejavu in a sense. It is a clear parallel to Butcher deciding to finally stand up to his father and concluding his character ark.
Hence there were so many “Lenny” moments/mentions in this episode.
This finale was weakest of all the season.
Mannn the moment SB pushed Ryan should’ve been the exact moment homelander goes crazy on SB not butcher fighting SB, this whole season was leading up to this point but nah they messed it up, had so much high expectations for the finale because all the episodes have been great and the past finales but nah this one wasn’t it fr
I little disagree about HL. Homelander looking after Ryan instead of going crazy on SB show that He care about Ryan's well being more than putting out his anger. Which was very good take in my opinion.
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Somebody missed the entire point of both HL’s and Butcher’s characters.
Bravo.
Learn to analyze the story, pls. It is not a fighting game - motivation and personality matter.
Homelander always wanted a family. He is not inherently evil - just messed up and a victim turned evil. Him protecting Ryan and being phased by SB’s actions is staying in-character.
Butcher has a soft spot for HIS family ever since his abusive father causes Lenny’s suicide. HENCE there were 2+ mentions of Lenny in this episode.
When SB was acting just like Butcher’s father (emotion is weakness, family means does not deserve remorse) - Butcher snapped, also in-character.
Black noir’s death was perfect, as he was always a martyr getting the other end of stick NOT because of his own fault. He always tangled up in other’s agendas and suffered, and died as a martyr too.
Just be more considerate of the literature implications here, please. This episode has Shakespeare-like writing, lol.
@@kingol4801 nahhh that whole ending was wack asf
I cannot stop lauging 0:07