Thanks so much! We should be tackling that video some point soon too. And I agree with the sentiment. The Roland FP10 still holds up as an excellent choice. :)
While the ES60 is not quite as quiet as the ES120 in my opinion, it is a touch quieter than the P225 and FP30X. With that said, I don't find any of these models to have particularly loud key noise issues.
If using these models as a MIDI controller for Pianoteq, there would be no difference in the sound as Pianoteq would become the tone engine in that case. Furthermore, because these models don't include USB audio interfaces, you cannot play Pianoteq through the onboard speakers.
Something new i learned from this video (that might have answered a question i had for a long time): About the Yamaha YDP line being higher tiers. Wow But..now, i want to ask about Clavinovas if I may. I am curious about the tiering of CLP and CVP series clavinovas. Is CVP higher than the CLPs?
Hi there! Thanks for the question! There is actually some overlap between the CVP and CLP lines! So, there are some CLP models that are higher-end than some VCP models and vice-versa. Thanks again and hope this helps!
@MerriamPianos wow..thanks. i jist recently come across a CVP909 video so being it the higher number, i immediately assumed it was the top-of-the-line Clavinova model. Although to be fair idk what is the highest numbered model for the CLP lineup. And now this video showing kawaii ES60 (first time i've heard of it) and 120 (saw a video about it from PianoForever channel IIRC. The most common Kawaii portable piano i know here in the Philippines is the ES110 mostly recommendes for beginners.
I'm curious which of the two keyboard actions would be easier for playing fast bebop. Some key actions require more effort, and since I have tendinitis issues, I need something that minimizes strain. Unfortunately, this review didn’t address that.
It really comes down to personal preference. The ES60's RHL action is slightly lighter than the ES120's RHC action. Personally, I find the ES120's action to be a bit more refined and piano-like. With that said, some players prefer a lighter, bouncier touch.
I still think the Roland fp30x is a better choice for the money, for me, the kawai es120 is a little over priced, at least they came up with a cheaper model, greetings from Nogales México
I do agree. To be competitive, ES120 should cost as FP30X at most, and ES60 to be at FP10 price range. PHA 4 may seem weird, for someone with real piano experience, although I think it's pretty unbeatable in budget category. Kawai RHC and newest versions, remind me a proper longer grand piano experience with lightness, responsiveness and control over a sound. PHA 4 is more like good upright piano. Still don't get it's bounciness at the bottom of pressed key as well as weird vibrating. In PHA 4, let-off is very weakly simulated - it might as well not be present It really depends, what type of customer you are, and what genre you play. All it's personal connection with the piano
@@juliuszwans4445I totally don’t agree. I’ve played many mid priced stage and home pianos. For me, My Roland FP80 is one of the nicest realistic Keybeds. I own the Yamaha 115, which has horrible plastic sticky keys. I played the ES110, which I found was far too bumpy and loose. I’ve visited both Roland & Yamaha London, talked to the reps, who both agree that Roland’s action is by far the best in class.
@@sonicairmusicPHA-4 action is unacceptably noisy (clicking noise on the upstroke)! I had 8 digital pianos with this action and returned all. I practice on Yamaha C7 regularly (its action is much lighter than PHA-4)
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Thanks. Yes, we were waiting for this review.
You're welcome! We're happy to release it! :)
Great review Stu, in my opinion given the price difference - the ES120 seems like the better deal for the longer term.
Thanks for tuning in! The ES120 is certainly a superior piano that will provide more longevity, but the ES60 is quite impressive for the price point.
@@MerriamPianos agreed
Looking forward FP10 vs ES60 battle.
I think FP10, despite its release date , is still a worthy choice for 2025 ☺️
Yeah
Thanks so much! We should be tackling that video some point soon too. And I agree with the sentiment. The Roland FP10 still holds up as an excellent choice. :)
FP-30X would be better as you don't have to deal with the annoying headphone jack hack just to get audio out to external speakers
Baby brother is cute
It is an appropriate analogy! :)
How about mechanical noise, when a key go back to its original position? Is the ES60 quieter than the Yamaha P225, Roland FP-30X ?
While the ES60 is not quite as quiet as the ES120 in my opinion, it is a touch quieter than the P225 and FP30X. With that said, I don't find any of these models to have particularly loud key noise issues.
@@MerriamPianos FP-30X action is very noisy and GHC is quieter than the action of ES120
@@MerriamPianos . thank you
I would still like to know how these instruments sound when played in tandem with Pianoteq.
Well, they'd sound the same. PTQ is doing the sound.
If using these models as a MIDI controller for Pianoteq, there would be no difference in the sound as Pianoteq would become the tone engine in that case. Furthermore, because these models don't include USB audio interfaces, you cannot play Pianoteq through the onboard speakers.
Hi from NYc- still wondering WHERE is Merriam Music?
Hi there! We are located in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We have three showrooms in Oakville, Vaughan, and Toronto respectively. :)
Something new i learned from this video (that might have answered a question i had for a long time):
About the Yamaha YDP line being higher tiers. Wow
But..now, i want to ask about Clavinovas if I may.
I am curious about the tiering of CLP and CVP series clavinovas.
Is CVP higher than the CLPs?
Hi there! Thanks for the question! There is actually some overlap between the CVP and CLP lines! So, there are some CLP models that are higher-end than some VCP models and vice-versa. Thanks again and hope this helps!
@MerriamPianos wow..thanks. i jist recently come across a CVP909 video so being it the higher number, i immediately assumed it was the top-of-the-line Clavinova model. Although to be fair idk what is the highest numbered model for the CLP lineup.
And now this video showing kawaii ES60 (first time i've heard of it) and 120 (saw a video about it from PianoForever channel IIRC. The most common Kawaii portable piano i know here in the Philippines is the ES110 mostly recommendes for beginners.
I'm curious which of the two keyboard actions would be easier for playing fast bebop. Some key actions require more effort, and since I have tendinitis issues, I need something that minimizes strain. Unfortunately, this review didn’t address that.
It really comes down to personal preference. The ES60's RHL action is slightly lighter than the ES120's RHC action. Personally, I find the ES120's action to be a bit more refined and piano-like. With that said, some players prefer a lighter, bouncier touch.
The ES-120 is tilted on the stand. That should make the action behave differently than if it were level.
Given the angle of the piano, the impact on the action's feel would be incredibly subtle.
I still think the Roland fp30x is a better choice for the money, for me, the kawai es120 is a little over priced, at least they came up with a cheaper model, greetings from Nogales México
Roland can't even be compared with real digital pianos, because Roland's action is a joke
I do agree. To be competitive, ES120 should cost as FP30X at most, and ES60 to be at FP10 price range.
PHA 4 may seem weird, for someone with real piano experience, although I think it's pretty unbeatable in budget category. Kawai RHC and newest versions, remind me a proper longer grand piano experience with lightness, responsiveness and control over a sound. PHA 4 is more like good upright piano. Still don't get it's bounciness at the bottom of pressed key as well as weird vibrating. In PHA 4, let-off is very weakly simulated - it might as well not be present
It really depends, what type of customer you are, and what genre you play. All it's personal connection with the piano
It comes down to a matter of preference really. Personally, I prefer the touch of the FP30X, but the I prefer the tone of the ES60/ES120.
@@juliuszwans4445I totally don’t agree. I’ve played many mid priced stage and home pianos. For me, My Roland FP80 is one of the nicest realistic Keybeds. I own the Yamaha 115, which has horrible plastic sticky keys. I played the ES110, which I found was far too bumpy and loose. I’ve visited both Roland & Yamaha London, talked to the reps, who both agree that Roland’s action is by far the best in class.
@@sonicairmusicPHA-4 action is unacceptably noisy (clicking noise on the upstroke)! I had 8 digital pianos with this action and returned all. I practice on Yamaha C7 regularly (its action is much lighter than PHA-4)