Even with the +18 all att Demonlock / lifebloom druid combo, it can be shut down by purge shot ranger or another warlock with spell pred. It feels balanced for how weak warlock has been against barbs lately.
thisd is wht i meant onepeg say its op but there adding plenty of ways to counter mybe if they wanna nerf it make it 3 shards max u know but i honestly think warlock neeeded this
I am aware at how this could be overtuned in some situations but warlock has a lot of melee things and its nice to see them being able to USE melee builds effectively without some sort of overpriced gear, the short of it is I think its a bit powerful with the rest of warlocks kit but on its own I do think that warlock should have some sort of stat padding because meleelock builds struggle because warlock requires so many high stats, and so with the +5 all attributes it makes melee lock more fun imo
i think its OP on caster warlock, just having torture master disable the 5+ all and its fixed, it also should require you to have the soul collector perk so you cant get it for free in groups.
It was needed. Warlock needs so many stats to begin with its definitely made warlock strong but not op this patch has been enjoyable for the most part.
Druid's been druid for so long but god forbid warlock feels overtuned for three days straight. I personally like the buff because it encourages players to fight PvE and not immediately run around to PvP. What I don't like is that it's entirely tied to a perk. They have effectively made it so now warlock only has 3 perk slots, since not running soul collector is basically trolling. However, what even were our choices before that? Demonlock is a joke, Dark Offering is not even funny and for some reason Immortal Lament is a perk that exist, that I bet you don't even remember about. Even Demon Armor is not worth it anymore, since you no longer need plate to have substantial PDR and the perk has a hefty -10% cast speed penalty, that renders it useless. Ironically, the only playstyle that has been viable so far is the one that people hate the most. Torture Mastery, phantomize and curse spam. What do I know though? I am not an x4 Demigod:)
ive been questing with lightfoots, loose trousers, mystic gloves, occ tunic, occ hood using a boc torture mastery build. This is the only time ive enjoyed BOC, and im running a kit that doesnt even look like i wouid use BOC. PLEASE DONT NERF MY CLASS SDF! (solo btw)
Yeah I been playing with it a lot, and I can firmly say it’s not OP. Because you’re basically not allowed to use dark spells with it or you’re totally screwing urself over when the melee starts going. I will hit barbs with CoP, CoW, BoC them to the head, hit them again, and they still win that fight so And I 100% agree that soul collector shouldn’t be allowed to be used with TM. that is the best fix possible without screwing warlock again. Also, rangers, and any person with good aim on a bow eats us alive lol
So, if this is not OP, then why does rogue only get +2 all from jokester and not +5? I think this would be better if it helped only melee lock. Maybe each shard is +1 to strength, dexterity, and resourcefulness. It is super weird that nobody wants to use the souls for dark magic damage anymore because they are so attached to the +5 all...
This is very much OP in trios especially on demonlock. I agree that melee warlock needed some love but I feel like they should just adjust base stats instead to be more favorable to building a melee build. I will enjoy it in solos until its nerfed though lol.
I wish i would have screen shotted what happen to me and my boy, we are casuals after work we tried the max high roller…brother had on unique everything demon plate melee lock with 190 hp and 100% ms with kumas and cyclops and it was honestly baffling he just BOC headshot me one tap
no its fair and balanced class needs rediculous amounts of stats to do melee caster is cringe melee lock is finally playable been running it like a fighter and its finally working the extra weapon swap speed is so good lock literally needs quicker weapon swap than the other magic classes because it takes an eternity to pull our weapons out or to swap back and forth between book and weapon to space properly also we can kinda chase now and doors arent an instant cancel to our fights because people used to open 2 doors for our every 1 door now we can actually chase someone W buffs no nerf needed
not as op as druid one tapping ppl and attacking with the speed of light as panther. I agree TM should not work twith soul collector too strong together.
@ I meant to type what is this one peg take people are talking about? From context it seems he doesn’t think warlock is op cause him or someone with a high ap rank said so?
Spell pred is so unbelievably overpowered if u r a bard and see a warlock U have to run no matter what. any other class u run into u can fight, but getting hit for 120 damage on a hitscan is just a joke
@@adhddvd 3 damage, 100 scaling, applies on each buff. Bard has 5 buffs on himself at all times. 3 plus 6 from spellbook. Times 50 +% = 15 damage, that plus 7 true = 22 damage per buff that gets removed. So easily 110 damage u can get even higher
@ never mind I take everything back, I was always going off the description, but turns out it is numbers of buffs times 3 damage and only then the scaling is coming. From the description I read I was like hell nah this can’t be ok
@@SpeedGoodComms yes I understood it that way too when I read the wiki, glad to know its not treating each buff as an individual source of dmg to scale off of
Only problem with the 5 all is the other buff classes. 5 from shards, 5 free tree of life, 2 from bard then 3 from rings. That's over 15 all. I think it would be cooler if instead of a perk slot it was an ability. Consume all darkness shards and gain 5 all for 20 seconds.
Even with the +18 all att Demonlock / lifebloom druid combo, it can be shut down by purge shot ranger or another warlock with spell pred. It feels balanced for how weak warlock has been against barbs lately.
thisd is wht i meant onepeg say its op but there adding plenty of ways to counter mybe if they wanna nerf it make it 3 shards max u know but i honestly think warlock neeeded this
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I am aware at how this could be overtuned in some situations but warlock has a lot of melee things and its nice to see them being able to USE melee builds effectively without some sort of overpriced gear, the short of it is I think its a bit powerful with the rest of warlocks kit but on its own I do think that warlock should have some sort of stat padding because meleelock builds struggle because warlock requires so many high stats, and so with the +5 all attributes it makes melee lock more fun imo
MeleeLock is my favorite build, love the content. #algorithm
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Love ur vids & ur music choice. Feel like you’ve been to a couple raves in your life
Good fights all the way through! Solid comp for this build as well
15:45 I know you can landmine as any class but i never thought i'd hear cleric landmine
its pretty popular tho?
i thought i was the only one who ran white weapons lmaoooo
as a 4x demigod myself.....
i think its OP on caster warlock, just having torture master disable the 5+ all and its fixed, it also should require you to have the soul collector perk so you cant get it for free in groups.
I don't think the +5 is imba, but I think if enough other classes cry about it, it'll be nerfed for sure.
I think its in a good spot in hr. One very small prob is that its really too good in sub25s lol I keep one shotting ppl with boc halberd.
It was needed. Warlock needs so many stats to begin with its definitely made warlock strong but not op this patch has been enjoyable for the most part.
100%
Druid's been druid for so long but god forbid warlock feels overtuned for three days straight. I personally like the buff because it encourages players to fight PvE and not immediately run around to PvP. What I don't like is that it's entirely tied to a perk. They have effectively made it so now warlock only has 3 perk slots, since not running soul collector is basically trolling. However, what even were our choices before that? Demonlock is a joke, Dark Offering is not even funny and for some reason Immortal Lament is a perk that exist, that I bet you don't even remember about. Even Demon Armor is not worth it anymore, since you no longer need plate to have substantial PDR and the perk has a hefty -10% cast speed penalty, that renders it useless. Ironically, the only playstyle that has been viable so far is the one that people hate the most. Torture Mastery, phantomize and curse spam. What do I know though? I am not an x4 Demigod:)
I wouldn't say its trolling dark reflection is a good replacement
There’s a lot of classes where there’s 1 perk you absolutely need or you’re trolling
@ This is true, bard comes immediately to mind. Not my favourite thing but what can you do.
@@urbangent253Ye dark reflection is good as well. Maybe i am biased because we havent gotten any significant buff in a while xd
@@vl8680 trueee lol
ive been questing with lightfoots, loose trousers, mystic gloves, occ tunic, occ hood using a boc torture mastery build. This is the only time ive enjoyed BOC, and im running a kit that doesnt even look like i wouid use BOC. PLEASE DONT NERF MY CLASS SDF! (solo btw)
what weapons are you running?
Does the crystal sword magic damage scale with will?
Yes will gives magic power
Yeah I been playing with it a lot, and I can firmly say it’s not OP. Because you’re basically not allowed to use dark spells with it or you’re totally screwing urself over when the melee starts going. I will hit barbs with CoP, CoW, BoC them to the head, hit them again, and they still win that fight so
And I 100% agree that soul collector shouldn’t be allowed to be used with TM. that is the best fix possible without screwing warlock again.
Also, rangers, and any person with good aim on a bow eats us alive lol
really hope they don’t walk this back. god forbid warlock feels good to play for once
Foreal bro we will know Thursday
What do the gents here think about GS cheesing with crystal ball instead of a book?
It works well lol
So, if this is not OP, then why does rogue only get +2 all from jokester and not +5? I think this would be better if it helped only melee lock. Maybe each shard is +1 to strength, dexterity, and resourcefulness. It is super weird that nobody wants to use the souls for dark magic damage anymore because they are so attached to the +5 all...
This is very much OP in trios especially on demonlock. I agree that melee warlock needed some love but I feel like they should just adjust base stats instead to be more favorable to building a melee build. I will enjoy it in solos until its nerfed though lol.
Demonluck already got the +5 all with demon activation and the extra 5 shards you can get in demon, is not practical to actually get.
@@urbangent253 wait you can stack up to 5 shards again after consuming them while in demon form?
@1brianyaffa yes
I wish i would have screen shotted what happen to me and my boy, we are casuals after work we tried the max high roller…brother had on unique everything demon plate melee lock with 190 hp and 100% ms with kumas and cyclops and it was honestly baffling he just BOC headshot me one tap
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4:39 I mean... that was a Lich bolt to the face. That is overcooked.
no its fair and balanced class needs rediculous amounts of stats to do melee caster is cringe melee lock is finally playable been running it like a fighter and its finally working the extra weapon swap speed is so good lock literally needs quicker weapon swap than the other magic classes because it takes an eternity to pull our weapons out or to swap back and forth between book and weapon to space properly also we can kinda chase now and doors arent an instant cancel to our fights because people used to open 2 doors for our every 1 door now we can actually chase someone W buffs no nerf needed
Very well said
Erm I think mister 4x demigod warlock main MASTER ONEPEG knows the game better 🤓
Just remember the dmg triangle 😂
You can't talk, you are not rank 1 warlock demigod :D
( It's a joke on onepegs take, love your vids man
🤣 maybe one day I'll get there brotha
@@urbangent253 i dont doubt it man 😉
First ;) I like the changes but I am worried that IM will nerf warlock next patch to an even worse state :(
not as op as druid one tapping ppl and attacking with the speed of light as panther. I agree TM should not work twith soul collector too strong together.
What’s this one peg people are talking about??
Nobody important.
@ I meant to type what is this one peg take people are talking about?
From context it seems he doesn’t think warlock is op cause him or someone with a high ap rank said so?
Spell pred is so unbelievably overpowered if u r a bard and see a warlock U have to run no matter what. any other class u run into u can fight, but getting hit for 120 damage on a hitscan is just a joke
120 on a hitscan? How would you manage that?
No it's not lol you don't even know how the scaling goes.with full true and 60% Magic Power it does about 35 damage
@@adhddvd 3 damage, 100 scaling, applies on each buff. Bard has 5 buffs on himself at all times. 3 plus 6 from spellbook. Times 50 +% = 15 damage, that plus 7 true = 22 damage per buff that gets removed. So easily 110 damage u can get even higher
@ never mind I take everything back, I was always going off the description, but turns out it is numbers of buffs times 3 damage and only then the scaling is coming. From the description I read I was like hell nah this can’t be ok
@@SpeedGoodComms yes I understood it that way too when I read the wiki, glad to know its not treating each buff as an individual source of dmg to scale off of
obviously
I thinks it’s overtuned a bit
Only problem with the 5 all is the other buff classes. 5 from shards, 5 free tree of life, 2 from bard then 3 from rings. That's over 15 all. I think it would be cooler if instead of a perk slot it was an ability. Consume all darkness shards and gain 5 all for 20 seconds.
L take
A class shouldn't be nerfed because other classes pair well with it.