I have tested ninja 650 and just decided to upgrade my mt25 to ninja 650. thanks to your videos. 650 is really comfortable not like other sport bikes. good for commuting
2024 Ninja 650! I have the '21, awesome bike and a lot of fun for the roads. Great review, thanks! Keep up the very helpful reviews. My '21 Ninja 650, 4 gallon tank can get me 200 miles before needing to refill with about 15 minutes to spare before empty. Top speed 127 (to 131 reported). 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds, comfortable, flickable, nice torque up hills too. Fun motorcycle!
@@trevor2830 Good question. Only in my right hand, do I start to feel mild vibration for the throttle grip. A thicker glove helps, along with not gripping too tight. Otherwise, no other vibrations for my Ninja 650. Great bike overall so far.
Also vibrations are quite low after 1000km service with adjustments from dealership. Mine got better, 4.5k km now and everything is smooth.@@trevor2830
Peter, we LOVE your videos! You've made us a lot smarter about how to look at and evaluate a motorcycle! After looking at a several bikes and matching them against your videos, we bought the Ninja 650 ABS! Thanks for helping us figure out the differences and make the best choice!
@PeterLoweOne I have wanted a Ninja since they first came out. Now I'm 50 yrs old and I've never owned one. 3 years ago, I was almost killed in a car accident and lost my spleen. I'm finally getting in good enough condition I can ride. I don't want a Superbike, I also don't want a bike that will hurt my back
@@Patriot2332you will not be disappointed. I’m 53 and this is my 11th bike. I’ve owned 4 HD’s, and a 636 among others. The 2024 N650 is by far the most favorite bike I’ve owned.
A 2015 Ninja 650 was my 1st bike, I have a soft spot for them. When I had it, I said if it just had an extra 20hp, it would be perfect. Almost a decade later and they've allowed their competitors to invade this space with more exciting offerings. I'd love to see a much needed Ninja 750.
I have a 22 650 and it's disappointing in the power department. Having to jump to 1000 is really sucky as I really like the Kawis but I don't want to die in one
What do you recommend now over the Ninja 650? I was considering buying one but all I see online is that it hasn't been updated since 2012 and there are better options. Can you tell me what other options I should look at? Everything I've found that was better than the Ninja 650 makes the insurance go up by 5 times, so I think I'm missing the actual competitors to this bike
Another great presentation, Peter. I would recommend your reviews to many looking to get into riding for the first time. These are great details you're providing without the riding portion which many channels already do. Some riders slag on this bike for being too vibey (which it is, but too much, that's subjective) or not having enough power (how much is enough?), but it's a nice amount for pretty well all occasions if one is honest with oneself. I have (still have until it sells in the spring) a 2010 version of this, and it was my first bike. It's a fun bike with enough power to learn and grow with including the bullet-proof reliability for the 37,00 km I put on mine. I certainly didn't need more power for the street, but at 5'10" and 190, I wanted some adjustability to the suspension, so I upgraded. To viewers considering this bike, if that's not you, this is plenty of bike for the price unless one feels they need/want more tech, but you'll pay for that.
Thanks for your kind words. I will be riding bikes on video this year, but these types of reviews will still be there to go over things in detail. As you mentioned, there are thousands of reviews where people ride these bikes, I try to offer something a little different. It won't be for everyone. Thanks also for sharing your experiences with this bike!
Thanks for this cool close up indoor review, helps a lot. after 30 years off bike (Kawa Z1) I try to figure out a smooth way to kick back in without finding myself in trouble. This review makes my pro ninja 650 68HP decision way easier. Cheers from Sydney
Thanks for the Lovely review Peter! I currently own a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 and was looking out for a new one. Narrowed down to a few bikes- Ninja 650, Z650 and a super meteor 650. But hands down the ninja is one of the most best overall bikes a person can buy..
Nice! Yeah, I'm a huge fan of your bike, but I hear what you're saying. If you're looking for fun, and all out top speed doesn't equate to ultimate fun for you, I think you'll find all the fun you need on the 650.
Im currently doing just that. Selling my ninja 1000. Its a magnificent bike but i just dont need it. I have nothing to prove so im happy to ride what others incorrectly consider just a “beginner” bike. Im looking at this one, or maybe even the new ninja 500. Thats plenty for what i want it for. Day trips, riding around town etc.
I'm 5' 7" with a pretty short inseam and I fit this bike well. I can't get past the sound though. It's a perfect beginner bike for sure and I love the styling as well as riding position but it sounds just like my Chinese Grom Clone. I ended up with an MT-09 SP which isn't comparable to this but it's because I was going to snag an MT-07 but my local dealer had a leftover 2023 MT-09 SP for $9980.00 and couldn't pass up the deal for the power and tech that comes with the bike. I'm at the very edge of my tippy toes if I try to land both feet which sucks but I've watched plenty of videos to work around being short.
Yeah, I just got my 5'7" son the Ninja 650. The ergonomics felt better for him than taller bikes that he sat on. My other son has a MT 07, but it's a bit tall for him....overall very similar bikes, but the Yamaha is a bit quicker I think. Bottom line was my son didn't feel comfortable on the balls of his feet and/or leaned over.
I bought the 2024 ninja 650 in jan24 as my first "real" bike after 10 yrs of streeting on a honda pcx150. Wish i would have done it sooner! It took about 500 miles before most operations became 2nd nature. I love the acceleration, not hitting max velocity on the freeway and the insane stopping power. Way more fun to shift and feel in total control. Great looks with a very comfortable ergo. Getting smooth and effortless clutchless quickshifts (most of the time, lol). I feel it looks great and have been replacing the plastics with carbon graphite from MotoComposites and Z4. The only other bike i would consider presently would be the GSX-8R. To me, my 24 N650 (covert green) makes me happy every time i ride or even look at it!! Edit: it does sound kinda weak, aftermarket exhausts just make the "weakness" louder! Due to the bar holder setup, no way to rise the bars, which i would like to get an 1 to 1.5 in rise. Oh well.
The gap is slightly smaller, but the tech is increased in the 500 and that means it actually surpasses the 650 in some ways. That's the interesting part for me. The 400 was always "less than" the 650 in every way. Some of that "less than" was a benefit in that a lower weight creates a unique ride, but there was no obvious feature on the 400 that surpassed the 650. That's no longer the case and that makes things very interesting to me. I'm looking forward to reviewing it. Thanks for supporting my channel!
Great review as always Peter. I’m working on my second bike this year and trying to decide between the ninja 500 or 650. I’m looking forward to seeing your review on the new 500. I have a 2022 Versys-x 300, my first bike - and I love it, will probably never get rid of it because it’s so much fun and does so much. I’m a daily rider, live in Chicago, and with the mild winter we’ve had this year I added heated gear and rode the Versys through most of it. I’m 5’11” 160lbs and I have found that I don’t need much more engine than what I already have. I want a small sport bike to go along with the Versys. I’m looking forward to seeing reviews on the 500 to help me decide between it and the 650.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! As soon as the 500 arrives I'll get a review up. I'm really looking forward to seeing that bike too! Thanks for watching!
Also, If you wanna add usb (I did). Pretty simple you dont need to run wires to the battery. Power is already ran up to it, you can yt how to access it.
I bought a ninja 650 09’/ er-6f in eu market, 8 months ago, as a first bike (I’m from EU, different ideology of buying bikes). It’s good to see my descendant. 😂. Cool bike, but as you said, power is manageable as a first bike.
Great review. I flashed my ECU on this bike and it made it a lot more capable than stock. I'll stick with it for years to come as a commuter and weekend ride
Im getting it now... i took screenshots between this 650 n the zx6... and compared them... the front end sits lower for better tucking, including less front wheel gap... 🔥🔥🔥💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 I wonder if you can adjust the height of the handle bars on the ninja 650... 🤔🤔🤔💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Maybe I'm dumb but wouldn't it be neat if the motorcycle manufacturers in their modes had a beginner option that detunes the motorcycle slightly so you can buy a say 600cc or 700cc bike straight away and progress power as you gain confidence? Idk I'm just a looking potential customer new to riding.
Lots of bikes do have a reduced power mode, you just don't tend to see that in the 600 cc range all that much. The Z900 has that, as does the Versys 1000, the Ninja 1000, even the Z H2 that I just tested.
What you are referring to is the LAMS version. It's a Learner version that is rev limited and limited to 50 HP. After a year you can pay to unlock the full potential of the bike. Aprilia RS660, Triumph Daytona 660 and Kawasaki ninja 650 are available in a LAMS compliant option in my country 🇦🇺
Hi Peter, I appreciate your reviews and value your opinion more than most youtube reviewers. I currently have a Z400, and I'm looking for something a little larger and more comfortable for longer and possibly freeway rides, and light touring. The Z400 is a great little commuter, but i feel a bit cramped and on highways get blown around a lot. Would the Ninja 650 be a good sport/tourer and better on highways with its weight compared to the Z400 and still be a good commuter too? I welcome anyone's advice who might own a Ninja 650 as well. I'm 5'11 and around 190 pounds.
It would work. I LOVED my Versys 650. It works great for sporty riding, touring, everyday use etc. You have to be ok with a little different styling than you're used to, but it really lives up to its versatile name. It's something to consider at least.
I currently have a yamaha r125 and I want to upgrade to a bigger bike for my A2 license. I noticed Kawasaki is a lot cheaper in comparison to something like yamaha, so I had a look at Kawasaki bikes. I noticed the new ninja 500 is actually more a 450, since it has a 451cc engine. I also liked the ninja 650 because it kinda is a combination of a sport and touring bike. What would your recommendations be for a great A2 bike, preferably a restricted A (full license) bike.
I'm really not that skilled at choosing bikes for people I haven't met. (I don't even choose them for people that I do know!) It's all about trying to figure out what type of riding that you want to do, and recognizing that no bike does everything. So choosing to sacrifice something is as much part of the game as choosing to have something in your next bike. I absolutely LOVE my Kawasaki Z900RS SE, but it's not an adventure bike, and there are times I wish I had an adventure bike instead, but an adventure bike wouldn't handle the road like my Kawasaki. So it's the same thing for you. I could suggest a bike for you, but it may not fit what you want. Just because it's perfect for one person doesn't mean it will be perfect for another. Kawasaki definitely has some strong options and if the Ninja 500 or 650 suit your needs, I think they're great. I had the Versys 650 for years and found that to be an excellent bike for my needs. But there are plenty of other manufacturers that offer great bikes as well. Only you can choose for you. I'll continue making in-depth videos to try to show you the bikes as best I can so that you're better equipped to make your decision. That's usually the best I can do for someone.
@@PeterLoweOne Thank you for the response man. I am going to a bike store tomorrow so I think I will ask some of the salesman for some guidance. For now my #1 is the ninja 650, but who knows what else I might find tomorrow :)
I'm looking forward to reviewing the Ninja 500 SE. It's going to have some cool tech. As soon as it arrives, I'll have a review up and I'll make multiple reviews to make sure we cover everything. Feel free to subscribe!
I would think the 500SE would be the way to go. A little more tech, a little bit more "flickable", cheaper price, and more usable power for the street. And I believe the 500 will hold its value more over time percentage wise.
@@Short_Bus I already picked the 650 over 500 Mainly because I wanted to keep up with highway traffic/ more speed. But the tech on the 500 SE is awesome
Saving money to get either this one (which is cheaper, is imo nicer due to the fairings, and is a bit beginners-friendly) or teh Z900. The Z is a naked, but wind will hit you regardless what you ride (unless a big HD chopper), the engine is quite a difference and just the sound of the Z alone makes me doubt. But then again, there is a difference in price which might be the trigger for me. Hard to choose
I drove a Versys 650 for years, and now have a Z900RS SE. I love EACH of them. The 650 engine is enthusiastic and just as fun, the Z900 engine is soooo smooth, and has power literally everywhere. I don't think I can help you decide, other than to say, whether I had a 650 or a 900, I was happy with my choice and had a blast on both.
These should be good. I've had not issues with them, but sometimes rotating your head 90 degrees left or right can change that, so I wonder if these have that issue (feature?) But yeah, you can see these with polarized glasses.
Hey I’m buying a 2024 Kawasaki ninja 650 abs Friday is my first motorcycle and I was to use it for work I have to ride for a hr and some change every day alote would be on the highway is the ninja 650 good for highway speeds?
Highway speeds are not a problem at all for this bike. I used to have a Versys 650 and did plenty of long highway trips on that bike. The engine can handle it.
@@trevor2830not really. Great bike honestly. Insane mpg. Sounds more like a 4 wheeler. I don’t like the sound of a twin cylinder. Especially when you’re used to the scream of an inline 4. Definitely get good tank pads. Can’t remember the brand I got, but they were pretty thick and knobby for a good grip.
Yeah. There is a geometry difference between the two, but I often point out that, for most people, if you're comfortable on one, you'll be comfortable on the other. They're very similar. As far as how they drive, they're mechanically the same. So.... 🙂🤷♂️
so im thinking about getting a bike and im on the fence between the 2020 ninja 650 and the 2024 ninja 650 i would love to save a little money but also want the best bike possible. whats your guys thoughts?
It's tough for me to recommend bikes for other people whom I've never met. They share an engine, and both will bring you a lot of joy! Do you want some of the updated electronics? Will those matter to you? That's one of the key differences.
I expect them to have something in stock then. But there's no guarantee. This dealer has always been good about trying to find bikes for people even when they don't have something in stock, but you might want to consider arranging a deal sooner than that and putting a deposit on one? The best thing to do is to connect with Jim Gilbert's Powersports. They're obviously going to want to sell you one right away, and they can't predict July any more than you and I can, but their showroom is never empty, and I would expect that they'd still have one of these available, but if it only takes a few extra sales to go from expecting 3 to still be available to nothing available.
I swear Kawa is my number one choice! Still, why for the love of god they can't make a decent all-black exhaust is beyond me. Everything is awesome, and then.. exhaust system sucks. *And yes the sound from stock is like a lawnmower. Yoshimura (feels Japanese as well) and you're set, although make sure it's legal for you off the tracks. My Ninja 650 ABS is 2017. I still ride that, in order to refrain me from high-speed with the bigger boys.
See what makes you the most comfortable first. If the one bike fits you and the other bike doesn't, that's a good answer. Both bikes can handle you're weight (they're designed for a rider and passenger) but before you ride it, have the shop adjust the preload setting on the rear shock. That will ensure all the handling and fun is still there for someone your size.
Had a 2024 briefly lol. It was a great bike but I eventually upgraded to the Z900. Wish the Ninja had rider modes but other than that, it was a great bike.
I’m wanting a light weight standard bike. (Back only thing not shot in my late 40s) Don’t care about speed or aggressive riding. Light Highway riding. Is insurance that much more than something like a CBR300R or Ninja 500
I'm 5'7" and had a 2008 Ninja 650R. The ergonomics and ease of getting on and off that won me over. I miss that bike, and hence why I was looking at the modern day evolution of it (as I ponder getting back to riding).
"Out-classes" is marketing speak. It has no real meaning. We could dive into the specifics of why one is better than another, and at the end of the day, we'd be going down a rabbit hole of specs that probably won't matter to the average buyer of bikes in this class. I love the SV650, so we're not disagreeing that it's a great bike, but if we're really honest, this class of bike is loaded with great options for all kinds of people. I'll have reviews of the SV650 on this channel too. Stay tuned!
Ok. That's cool. Sounds like you're happy with your bike. Others will be happy with this. It's not a competition, I hope everyone who wants a bike can get one, and that they all love the bike they got as much as you love yours.
@PeterLoweOne didn't say it was a competition. I'm saying people discount old baggers not realizing they are where the bikes like the ninja came from. I don't remember the model name for the kawasaki that birthed the ninja, but it was a cruiser/bagger and was a 500cc. I had the yamaha that was the one that birthed the R6. The Maxum birthed the R6. I also used to have the grand father of the zx750. Now in fairness it was also a sports bike the zs750R. Think air cooled ninja. My comment is really more of a remember the roots kind of intention just executed poorly. My bike actually birthed the Zmax, but is actually way more powerful than the Zmax with a ton of way before their time advantages. A really cool thing about the xvz1200 and 1300 is the brake system and dynamic suspension that is balanced with the brakes. I don't know of any other bike that the suspension actually is tied into the brake system. Not saying there isn't one, I just don't know about it. When you apply the brakes on a venture the suspension and brakes apply pressure to each other so you don't get a nose dive, the bike rides level as the brakes are applied. It is actually a feature that if the zx models had it I would buy a new ninja. Now it would be a zx14 not a 650 because I am too big for a ninja 650. I'm 250 pounds, and though the bike could handle me, a 1400 would be far more suited to my height and weight. A 1000 is a little to much towards the racing side of things for me at 45 years old. I'm afraid my comment may have lead you to believe I don't like the ninja, and that is not the case. In 2009 I owned three ninjas at the same time. I had a 2009 zx6rr, 2009 zx14SE, and 2009 zx14R. The 6rr was stock other than the crash cage i put on it for doing stunts in closed parking lots. The 14se I put a turbo kit on and a lot of other chrome up grades along with a super long swing arm, and the 14R had a pro charger with a longer swing arm and a ton of custom stuff for show bikes. Had a custom concord with the zx14R power plant in it also. I love kawasaki, but the yamaha xvz1200 from 1983 was way before its time in advancements and will run circles around most modern sports bikes except top end. The top end technology just wasn't there in 1983. 120-125mph is the absolute top of the xvz1200. Now my xvz has a 1985 max final drive on it. So mine is way quicker than a normal 1983 xvz1200, but still top ends at 120-125. Any faster and it gets a little scary in stability even with the race style yoke barrings I have instead of the balls that it had factory. Race style doesn't ware as fast and has way less wabble when they do ware. The yoke barrings I have are actually designed by kawasaki racing. So I apologize that my comment came across as cutting down this bike.
@@davidrose415not trying to be rude, but have you actually been on a modern sport bike ? Your Yamaha will get blown off the road. 0-60, top end, handling, every aspect.
Sorry, but the bike has not had a serious update since 2012. Every other bike in its class outperforms it. The bike needs to either lose 50lbs, or gain at least 15 HP and get a 270 crank. Its only advantage is its price.
I'm fine if you hold a different opinion than me. You're operating on the theory that the best bike on the spec sheet is the best bike for every rider. What most people don't realize is that people almost never buy the best "spec sheet" vehicle. Take a walk in your neighbourhood. Does every driveway have only the top rated car in the driveway? Nope. That's because things like ultimate power to weight ratio, or a 270 degree crank often matter more to bike reviewers and spec sheet evangelists than they do to the average person who buys this bike. I'm not claiming that this is the best bike in any particular spec, but it can still be a gold standard within the class, and one of the best options for prospective buyers. If it's not for you, that's fine, but it's still a great bike for a lot of people. But my opinion doesn't mean that I'm right for everyone, and your opinion is the same.
@@PeterLoweOnewhat you said is true and i understand your comparison but doing it with cars which is a completely different thing compared to a sport/touring motorcycle. It is true people won’t always want the best specs sheet cars but that is because when you are buying a car you buy it because multiples reasons: price, size,luxury, functionality, the design, inside of the car,etc. So with a sport/touring motorcycle, which is a recreational vehicle, you tend to look for the best performance because you don’t have as much reasons to choose a bike from another one. But i still agree with you that the Ninja 650 is one of the best bike in the 650 range because of its price and all which is perfect for a beginner or for people that want a sport 650 and don’t know a lot about motorcycles.
@@notflick404 I think we're closer in our views than some will assume. I would still argue after being around powersports buyers and working with sales teams for powersports, that you may be surprised how many people differ from your opinion on overall specs. But again. I hear you. I appreciate you adding your thoughts to the dialogue here.
There is a reason and it’s because this bike is amazing.. im bummed that the cost keeps going on.. pre pandemic you could buy this new out the door for less than $10k and that is no longer the case.. if they want to get a new generation in their seats they need to realize the new generation can’t justify costs over $10k. They need to stay under it or die out.
I'm willing to be wrong. I just reviewed two bikes that I'll have up within the next day that are direct competitors to this. One in particular is FAR better from a spec sheet standpoint, but the Ninja continues to sell well for some of the intangible reasons. It still offers everything most people want in this class. Good styling, good performance, good price, good insurance rates, it's not a spec sheet winner, but it's a great ride still to this day.
@@PeterLoweOne I just bought one for my 5'7" tall son. Perfect ergonomics for him, power is barely good enough, but it is good enough.....upright position is nice.
It looks like a grown ass man trying to sit on a bmx bike meant for a teenager. Than again, I’m 6’4 230 sooo i guess most sport bikes will look like that if I’m seated on one 😅
This bike fits me well, but you may prefer something like a Versys 650 which has a more upright adventure bike style to it. That bike shares this engine, has great handling (and higher spec suspension) but also fits taller riders well. The addition of remote preload adjustment on the rear shock also allows you to really dial in the suspension for your weight and any gear you want to carry. I owned the Versys 650 for years and I think it's a great bike, especially for taller riders.
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I have tested ninja 650 and just decided to upgrade my mt25 to ninja 650. thanks to your videos. 650 is really comfortable not like other sport bikes. good for commuting
Awesome! Great bike! You'll love it!
bro check out Suzuki gsx- 8R once
@@PeterLoweOneyoru video locked my option for 650, i was looking z900 2024,but can't find any in my area. So locking my option 👍💥
2009 Ninja 650 owner here, still goin strong after all these years
This Ninja is one of best " starter" bikes
I never regret it
The perfect bike for me. Got my ninja a few days ago and I'm really loving it ❤❤❤
Just got one yesterday. Im in love !!!!!!!
Great bike! Have fun with it!!
2024 Ninja 650! I have the '21, awesome bike and a lot of fun for the roads. Great review, thanks! Keep up the very helpful reviews.
My '21 Ninja 650, 4 gallon tank can get me 200 miles before needing to refill with about 15 minutes to spare before empty. Top speed 127 (to 131 reported). 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds, comfortable, flickable, nice torque up hills too. Fun motorcycle!
Ppl have been complaining alot about the vibrations from this and its counterpart that have had me confused from the start. Whats your take?
@@trevor2830 Good question. Only in my right hand, do I start to feel mild vibration for the throttle grip. A thicker glove helps, along with not gripping too tight. Otherwise, no other vibrations for my Ninja 650. Great bike overall so far.
@@BlackArroToons thanks 🍻
Also vibrations are quite low after 1000km service with adjustments from dealership. Mine got better, 4.5k km now and everything is smooth.@@trevor2830
Hey buddy I have the 2021 model too-red and black paint scheme-the bike is so well engineered I still can't believe it.
This guy is wonderful. Love his reviews
Thanks so much for your kind words! I really appreciate it!
Peter, we LOVE your videos! You've made us a lot smarter about how to look at and evaluate a motorcycle! After looking at a several bikes and matching them against your videos, we bought the Ninja 650 ABS! Thanks for helping us figure out the differences and make the best choice!
I think after several days of hard research and watching a lot of different reviews, im going with the Ninja 650.
It's a great bike!
@PeterLoweOne I have wanted a Ninja since they first came out.
Now I'm 50 yrs old and I've never owned one. 3 years ago, I was almost killed in a car accident and lost my spleen.
I'm finally getting in good enough condition I can ride.
I don't want a Superbike, I also don't want a bike that will hurt my back
@@Patriot2332you will not be disappointed. I’m 53 and this is my 11th bike. I’ve owned 4 HD’s, and a 636 among others. The 2024 N650 is by far the most favorite bike I’ve owned.
Ohhh I have been waiting for this one for a long time, thanks Pete!
Thanks for following along!
Picked this same one up a month ago, same color scheme and all. First bike, so far so good. Enough power to have fun with for me and comfortable.
A 2015 Ninja 650 was my 1st bike, I have a soft spot for them.
When I had it, I said if it just had an extra 20hp, it would be perfect. Almost a decade later and they've allowed their competitors to invade this space with more exciting offerings. I'd love to see a much needed Ninja 750.
I have a 22 650 and it's disappointing in the power department. Having to jump to 1000 is really sucky as I really like the Kawis but I don't want to die in one
What do you recommend now over the Ninja 650?
I was considering buying one but all I see online is that it hasn't been updated since 2012 and there are better options. Can you tell me what other options I should look at?
Everything I've found that was better than the Ninja 650 makes the insurance go up by 5 times, so I think I'm missing the actual competitors to this bike
Another great presentation, Peter. I would recommend your reviews to many looking to get into riding for the first time. These are great details you're providing without the riding portion which many channels already do.
Some riders slag on this bike for being too vibey (which it is, but too much, that's subjective) or not having enough power (how much is enough?), but it's a nice amount for pretty well all occasions if one is honest with oneself.
I have (still have until it sells in the spring) a 2010 version of this, and it was my first bike. It's a fun bike with enough power to learn and grow with including the bullet-proof reliability for the 37,00 km I put on mine. I certainly didn't need more power for the street, but at 5'10" and 190, I wanted some adjustability to the suspension, so I upgraded. To viewers considering this bike, if that's not you, this is plenty of bike for the price unless one feels they need/want more tech, but you'll pay for that.
Thanks for your kind words. I will be riding bikes on video this year, but these types of reviews will still be there to go over things in detail. As you mentioned, there are thousands of reviews where people ride these bikes, I try to offer something a little different. It won't be for everyone. Thanks also for sharing your experiences with this bike!
Thanks for this cool close up indoor review, helps a lot. after 30 years off bike (Kawa Z1) I try to figure out a smooth way to kick back in without finding myself in trouble. This review makes my pro ninja 650 68HP decision way easier. Cheers from Sydney
Press and hold the down button on the left hand side to change the colours of the dash 😊
Just bought this exact bike, thanks for your help in my decision!
That's awesome! Enjoy it!
Thanks for the Lovely review Peter! I currently own a Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 and was looking out for a new one. Narrowed down to a few bikes- Ninja 650, Z650 and a super meteor 650. But hands down the ninja is one of the most best overall bikes a person can buy..
as an owner of a ninja 1000, i'm thinking at some point i'll be downgrading to this bike. plenty of power for the street and i love the look.
Nice! Yeah, I'm a huge fan of your bike, but I hear what you're saying. If you're looking for fun, and all out top speed doesn't equate to ultimate fun for you, I think you'll find all the fun you need on the 650.
Im currently doing just that. Selling my ninja 1000. Its a magnificent bike but i just dont need it. I have nothing to prove so im happy to ride what others incorrectly consider just a “beginner” bike. Im looking at this one, or maybe even the new ninja 500. Thats plenty for what i want it for. Day trips, riding around town etc.
I'm 5' 7" with a pretty short inseam and I fit this bike well. I can't get past the sound though. It's a perfect beginner bike for sure and I love the styling as well as riding position but it sounds just like my Chinese Grom Clone. I ended up with an MT-09 SP which isn't comparable to this but it's because I was going to snag an MT-07 but my local dealer had a leftover 2023 MT-09 SP for $9980.00 and couldn't pass up the deal for the power and tech that comes with the bike. I'm at the very edge of my tippy toes if I try to land both feet which sucks but I've watched plenty of videos to work around being short.
Yeah, I just got my 5'7" son the Ninja 650. The ergonomics felt better for him than taller bikes that he sat on. My other son has a MT 07, but it's a bit tall for him....overall very similar bikes, but the Yamaha is a bit quicker I think. Bottom line was my son didn't feel comfortable on the balls of his feet and/or leaned over.
This bike is still my dream motorcycle; one day I'll join the ranks! 2025 Ninja 650 Review coming soon I hope!
I bought the 2024 ninja 650 in jan24 as my first "real" bike after 10 yrs of streeting on a honda pcx150. Wish i would have done it sooner! It took about 500 miles before most operations became 2nd nature. I love the acceleration, not hitting max velocity on the freeway and the insane stopping power. Way more fun to shift and feel in total control. Great looks with a very comfortable ergo. Getting smooth and effortless clutchless quickshifts (most of the time, lol). I feel it looks great and have been replacing the plastics with carbon graphite from MotoComposites and Z4. The only other bike i would consider presently would be the GSX-8R. To me, my 24 N650 (covert green) makes me happy every time i ride or even look at it!!
Edit: it does sound kinda weak, aftermarket exhausts just make the "weakness" louder! Due to the bar holder setup, no way to rise the bars, which i would like to get an 1 to 1.5 in rise. Oh well.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Can't wait to see your coverage of the Ninja 500 /Z500! Especially how the gap between the 500 and 650 is now even smaller....
The gap is slightly smaller, but the tech is increased in the 500 and that means it actually surpasses the 650 in some ways. That's the interesting part for me. The 400 was always "less than" the 650 in every way. Some of that "less than" was a benefit in that a lower weight creates a unique ride, but there was no obvious feature on the 400 that surpassed the 650. That's no longer the case and that makes things very interesting to me. I'm looking forward to reviewing it. Thanks for supporting my channel!
The 500 still has the exact same power as the 400. There's no difference in the gap
Great review as always Peter. I’m working on my second bike this year and trying to decide between the ninja 500 or 650. I’m looking forward to seeing your review on the new 500. I have a 2022 Versys-x 300, my first bike - and I love it, will probably never get rid of it because it’s so much fun and does so much. I’m a daily rider, live in Chicago, and with the mild winter we’ve had this year I added heated gear and rode the Versys through most of it. I’m 5’11” 160lbs and I have found that I don’t need much more engine than what I already have. I want a small sport bike to go along with the Versys. I’m looking forward to seeing reviews on the 500 to help me decide between it and the 650.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! As soon as the 500 arrives I'll get a review up. I'm really looking forward to seeing that bike too! Thanks for watching!
Get the 650
Also, If you wanna add usb (I did). Pretty simple you dont need to run wires to the battery. Power is already ran up to it, you can yt how to access it.
19:22 "horn light?" 🤣 tho the horn is actually good on the bike, I think its better being heard from personal experience.
I bought a ninja 650 09’/ er-6f in eu market, 8 months ago, as a first bike (I’m from EU, different ideology of buying bikes). It’s good to see my descendant. 😂. Cool bike, but as you said, power is manageable as a first bike.
Definetily agree with you although i dont own a ninja 650, just a 250 sadly, would probably upgrade to 650 in the near future
Peter! Please do a 2024 Suzuki GSX-8R, looking forward to that because I like your review style!
I'll definitely be covering that one soon! Thanks for watching!
That's one that I'm interested in. Either that or the 1000 SX
Great review. I flashed my ECU on this bike and it made it a lot more capable than stock. I'll stick with it for years to come as a commuter and weekend ride
getting one soon what did you use to flash
@@zacharykirkham9481 Chris Moore at Moore Mafia. Great service and fast turnaround
@@zacharykirkham9481 I used Moore Mafia. I put the Mivv exhaust on. No complaints
@@SKEEZOTHEREALSKEEZO put in kspp velocity stacks, way better top end
I have a yamaha diversion F 2011 seems that the sitting position its the same. Thank you for your detailed review! Looking for options to update
Im getting it now... i took screenshots between this 650 n the zx6... and compared them... the front end sits lower for better tucking, including less front wheel gap... 🔥🔥🔥💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 I wonder if you can adjust the height of the handle bars on the ninja 650... 🤔🤔🤔💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Maybe I'm dumb but wouldn't it be neat if the motorcycle manufacturers in their modes had a beginner option that detunes the motorcycle slightly so you can buy a say 600cc or 700cc bike straight away and progress power as you gain confidence? Idk I'm just a looking potential customer new to riding.
Lots of bikes do have a reduced power mode, you just don't tend to see that in the 600 cc range all that much. The Z900 has that, as does the Versys 1000, the Ninja 1000, even the Z H2 that I just tested.
What you are referring to is the LAMS version. It's a Learner version that is rev limited and limited to 50 HP. After a year you can pay to unlock the full potential of the bike. Aprilia RS660, Triumph Daytona 660 and Kawasaki ninja 650 are available in a LAMS compliant option in my country 🇦🇺
Great review. Thank you
Can you explain how to adjust the mirrors of 2024 Ninja 650!
I can. It's probably easier to do in a video, but it's very very simple.
Hi Peter, I appreciate your reviews and value your opinion more than most youtube reviewers. I currently have a Z400, and I'm looking for something a little larger and more comfortable for longer and possibly freeway rides, and light touring. The Z400 is a great little commuter, but i feel a bit cramped and on highways get blown around a lot. Would the Ninja 650 be a good sport/tourer and better on highways with its weight compared to the Z400 and still be a good commuter too? I welcome anyone's advice who might own a Ninja 650 as well. I'm 5'11 and around 190 pounds.
It would work. I LOVED my Versys 650. It works great for sporty riding, touring, everyday use etc. You have to be ok with a little different styling than you're used to, but it really lives up to its versatile name. It's something to consider at least.
Short answer, heck yeah
I currently have a yamaha r125 and I want to upgrade to a bigger bike for my A2 license. I noticed Kawasaki is a lot cheaper in comparison to something like yamaha, so I had a look at Kawasaki bikes. I noticed the new ninja 500 is actually more a 450, since it has a 451cc engine. I also liked the ninja 650 because it kinda is a combination of a sport and touring bike.
What would your recommendations be for a great A2 bike, preferably a restricted A (full license) bike.
I'm really not that skilled at choosing bikes for people I haven't met. (I don't even choose them for people that I do know!) It's all about trying to figure out what type of riding that you want to do, and recognizing that no bike does everything. So choosing to sacrifice something is as much part of the game as choosing to have something in your next bike. I absolutely LOVE my Kawasaki Z900RS SE, but it's not an adventure bike, and there are times I wish I had an adventure bike instead, but an adventure bike wouldn't handle the road like my Kawasaki. So it's the same thing for you. I could suggest a bike for you, but it may not fit what you want. Just because it's perfect for one person doesn't mean it will be perfect for another. Kawasaki definitely has some strong options and if the Ninja 500 or 650 suit your needs, I think they're great. I had the Versys 650 for years and found that to be an excellent bike for my needs. But there are plenty of other manufacturers that offer great bikes as well. Only you can choose for you. I'll continue making in-depth videos to try to show you the bikes as best I can so that you're better equipped to make your decision. That's usually the best I can do for someone.
@@PeterLoweOne Thank you for the response man. I am going to a bike store tomorrow so I think I will ask some of the salesman for some guidance.
For now my #1 is the ninja 650, but who knows what else I might find tomorrow :)
I'm debating if I should get the 650 or wait for the 500 SE.
I'm looking forward to reviewing the Ninja 500 SE. It's going to have some cool tech. As soon as it arrives, I'll have a review up and I'll make multiple reviews to make sure we cover everything. Feel free to subscribe!
I would think the 500SE would be the way to go. A little more tech, a little bit more "flickable", cheaper price, and more usable power for the street. And I believe the 500 will hold its value more over time percentage wise.
@@Short_Bus I already picked the 650 over 500 Mainly because I wanted to keep up with highway traffic/ more speed. But the tech on the 500 SE is awesome
I wonder, if they'll replace the 650 now that the 500 exists. I don't think it would make sense to keep this 650 as it is.
The 650 still has a big power bump over the 500 (which is actually a 451) I think there is a nice step between them still.
Saving money to get either this one (which is cheaper, is imo nicer due to the fairings, and is a bit beginners-friendly) or teh Z900. The Z is a naked, but wind will hit you regardless what you ride (unless a big HD chopper), the engine is quite a difference and just the sound of the Z alone makes me doubt. But then again, there is a difference in price which might be the trigger for me.
Hard to choose
I drove a Versys 650 for years, and now have a Z900RS SE. I love EACH of them. The 650 engine is enthusiastic and just as fun, the Z900 engine is soooo smooth, and has power literally everywhere. I don't think I can help you decide, other than to say, whether I had a 650 or a 900, I was happy with my choice and had a blast on both.
Are the front and rear lights on indefinitely if the bike is on or are they able to be turned off?
In Canada, and many other parts of the world, they're required to be on when the bike is running.
Is there a big difference between ninja650 or z650 besides slight seating position? Would a side by side comparison seating be possible?
Same bike except for windshield and fairing on the ninja.
🤔 How about a Quick Shifter as an accessory?!
How well or not does that TFT work for riders like myself that wear polarized sunglasses (many screens I find vanish when I put them on)?
These should be good. I've had not issues with them, but sometimes rotating your head 90 degrees left or right can change that, so I wonder if these have that issue (feature?) But yeah, you can see these with polarized glasses.
@@PeterLoweOne Okay - just need to figure out if I want the Ninja 650 or if I'll go commando (Z650). LOL
Hey I’m buying a 2024 Kawasaki ninja 650 abs Friday is my first motorcycle and I was to use it for work I have to ride for a hr and some change every day alote would be on the highway is the ninja 650 good for highway speeds?
Highway speeds are not a problem at all for this bike. I used to have a Versys 650 and did plenty of long highway trips on that bike. The engine can handle it.
@@PeterLoweOne thanks I appreciate it and I love the video excited to get the motorcycle on Friday
Get a larger windscreen. Had a 2018. Wind buffeting was horrible on the highway unless you’re fully tucked
@@brockbaker3ableanything else ??
@@trevor2830not really. Great bike honestly. Insane mpg. Sounds more like a 4 wheeler. I don’t like the sound of a twin cylinder. Especially when you’re used to the scream of an inline 4. Definitely get good tank pads. Can’t remember the brand I got, but they were pretty thick and knobby for a good grip.
how tall is the rider?
About 6 feet tall
I sat on the z650 and Ninja 650. They seem pretty similar but I didn't ride either one.
Yeah. There is a geometry difference between the two, but I often point out that, for most people, if you're comfortable on one, you'll be comfortable on the other. They're very similar. As far as how they drive, they're mechanically the same. So....
🙂🤷♂️
Love it but does the light activate the stop lights to turn green at night? 2015 lights don't activate traffic lights 😂
GSX-8R is the new middle weight champ!
It definitely has some nice specs, but until I review it, I can't crown it on this channel.
so im thinking about getting a bike and im on the fence between the 2020 ninja 650 and the 2024 ninja 650 i would love to save a little money but also want the best bike possible. whats your guys thoughts?
It's tough for me to recommend bikes for other people whom I've never met. They share an engine, and both will bring you a lot of joy! Do you want some of the updated electronics? Will those matter to you? That's one of the key differences.
Hi Peter, i’m in new brunswick and i’m going to be looking at getting this bike in july, you think it’ll still be available then?
I expect them to have something in stock then. But there's no guarantee. This dealer has always been good about trying to find bikes for people even when they don't have something in stock, but you might want to consider arranging a deal sooner than that and putting a deposit on one? The best thing to do is to connect with Jim Gilbert's Powersports. They're obviously going to want to sell you one right away, and they can't predict July any more than you and I can, but their showroom is never empty, and I would expect that they'd still have one of these available, but if it only takes a few extra sales to go from expecting 3 to still be available to nothing available.
I swear Kawa is my number one choice! Still, why for the love of god they can't make a decent all-black exhaust is beyond me. Everything is awesome, and then.. exhaust system sucks.
*And yes the sound from stock is like a lawnmower.
Yoshimura (feels Japanese as well) and you're set, although make sure it's legal for you off the tracks.
My Ninja 650 ABS is 2017. I still ride that, in order to refrain me from high-speed with the bigger boys.
I'm a big guy looking for my first bike. I'm 6 foot, 320. Was going to opt for the 500, but I'm thinking the 650 would be best. Thoughts?
See what makes you the most comfortable first. If the one bike fits you and the other bike doesn't, that's a good answer. Both bikes can handle you're weight (they're designed for a rider and passenger) but before you ride it, have the shop adjust the preload setting on the rear shock. That will ensure all the handling and fun is still there for someone your size.
Had a 2024 briefly lol. It was a great bike but I eventually upgraded to the Z900. Wish the Ninja had rider modes but other than that, it was a great bike.
I’m wanting a light weight standard bike. (Back only thing not shot in my late 40s) Don’t care about speed or aggressive riding. Light Highway riding. Is insurance that much more than something like a CBR300R or Ninja 500
I wouldn't think insurance is all that much more. It's definitely worth a call to your insurance company to see the difference.
Are the fairings rattling at speeds?
No, they're solid. Not an issue.
@@PeterLoweOne thanks all i need to know ride safe
Is this bike going to be good for a shorter riders like me (I’m 5’7)
I know people who are your height that ride this, so I would say it's very workable for you.
I am 5'7" and have a 2015 ninja 650. It should be very comfortable and you should be flat foot or close to it at a stop😊
I'm 5'7" and had a 2008 Ninja 650R. The ergonomics and ease of getting on and off that won me over. I miss that bike, and hence why I was looking at the modern day evolution of it (as I ponder getting back to riding).
Nice little bike. Sv650 out classes it though.
"Out-classes" is marketing speak. It has no real meaning. We could dive into the specifics of why one is better than another, and at the end of the day, we'd be going down a rabbit hole of specs that probably won't matter to the average buyer of bikes in this class. I love the SV650, so we're not disagreeing that it's a great bike, but if we're really honest, this class of bike is loaded with great options for all kinds of people. I'll have reviews of the SV650 on this channel too. Stay tuned!
I have an antique bagger that will eat its lunch in everything but top end. I have a 1983 yamaha xvz1200 venture royal.
Ok. That's cool. Sounds like you're happy with your bike. Others will be happy with this. It's not a competition, I hope everyone who wants a bike can get one, and that they all love the bike they got as much as you love yours.
@PeterLoweOne didn't say it was a competition. I'm saying people discount old baggers not realizing they are where the bikes like the ninja came from. I don't remember the model name for the kawasaki that birthed the ninja, but it was a cruiser/bagger and was a 500cc. I had the yamaha that was the one that birthed the R6. The Maxum birthed the R6. I also used to have the grand father of the zx750. Now in fairness it was also a sports bike the zs750R. Think air cooled ninja. My comment is really more of a remember the roots kind of intention just executed poorly. My bike actually birthed the Zmax, but is actually way more powerful than the Zmax with a ton of way before their time advantages. A really cool thing about the xvz1200 and 1300 is the brake system and dynamic suspension that is balanced with the brakes. I don't know of any other bike that the suspension actually is tied into the brake system. Not saying there isn't one, I just don't know about it. When you apply the brakes on a venture the suspension and brakes apply pressure to each other so you don't get a nose dive, the bike rides level as the brakes are applied. It is actually a feature that if the zx models had it I would buy a new ninja. Now it would be a zx14 not a 650 because I am too big for a ninja 650. I'm 250 pounds, and though the bike could handle me, a 1400 would be far more suited to my height and weight. A 1000 is a little to much towards the racing side of things for me at 45 years old. I'm afraid my comment may have lead you to believe I don't like the ninja, and that is not the case. In 2009 I owned three ninjas at the same time. I had a 2009 zx6rr, 2009 zx14SE, and 2009 zx14R. The 6rr was stock other than the crash cage i put on it for doing stunts in closed parking lots. The 14se I put a turbo kit on and a lot of other chrome up grades along with a super long swing arm, and the 14R had a pro charger with a longer swing arm and a ton of custom stuff for show bikes. Had a custom concord with the zx14R power plant in it also. I love kawasaki, but the yamaha xvz1200 from 1983 was way before its time in advancements and will run circles around most modern sports bikes except top end. The top end technology just wasn't there in 1983. 120-125mph is the absolute top of the xvz1200. Now my xvz has a 1985 max final drive on it. So mine is way quicker than a normal 1983 xvz1200, but still top ends at 120-125. Any faster and it gets a little scary in stability even with the race style yoke barrings I have instead of the balls that it had factory. Race style doesn't ware as fast and has way less wabble when they do ware. The yoke barrings I have are actually designed by kawasaki racing. So I apologize that my comment came across as cutting down this bike.
@@davidrose415not trying to be rude, but have you actually been on a modern sport bike ? Your Yamaha will get blown off the road. 0-60, top end, handling, every aspect.
@brockbaker3able you are wrong buddy. I have owned several ninjas and hyabusas. So yeah I have been on modern sports bikes.
@@brockbaker3able...damn, he wrote a book to describe his bikes, Wow !
Hi Peter
Very nice bike but I’m wanting a ninja 7
"...it's an easy to ride bike..."
"IT'S NOT! I CRASHED!"
" Let me rephrase... Don't ride like an idiot!" 😂
Couldn't resist... Love your reviews!!👍
When the gas light starts flashing you have a bout 50km (about 30 miles) so usually good enough to find a gas station.
No changes again
Gold standard?
Don't like my opinion? Make your own video to state your own opinion! Watch the video to see my justification.
Kawasaki need to hire a designer that isn't colorblind + neon green. The three monotonous colors are just sad.
There was a Blue and an Orange Ninja 650 not to long ago. 😎
You’d seriously choose this bike over a Honda CBR650r?
Several riders would! It's not all about specs, and that one is a 4 cylinder, which to me, puts it in a different class.
It's to late.ive already feel for.u
Sorry, but the bike has not had a serious update since 2012. Every other bike in its class outperforms it. The bike needs to either lose 50lbs, or gain at least 15 HP and get a 270 crank. Its only advantage is its price.
I'm fine if you hold a different opinion than me. You're operating on the theory that the best bike on the spec sheet is the best bike for every rider. What most people don't realize is that people almost never buy the best "spec sheet" vehicle. Take a walk in your neighbourhood. Does every driveway have only the top rated car in the driveway? Nope. That's because things like ultimate power to weight ratio, or a 270 degree crank often matter more to bike reviewers and spec sheet evangelists than they do to the average person who buys this bike. I'm not claiming that this is the best bike in any particular spec, but it can still be a gold standard within the class, and one of the best options for prospective buyers. If it's not for you, that's fine, but it's still a great bike for a lot of people. But my opinion doesn't mean that I'm right for everyone, and your opinion is the same.
@@PeterLoweOnewhat you said is true and i understand your comparison but doing it with cars which is a completely different thing compared to a sport/touring motorcycle. It is true people won’t always want the best specs sheet cars but that is because when you are buying a car you buy it because multiples reasons: price, size,luxury, functionality, the design, inside of the car,etc. So with a sport/touring motorcycle, which is a recreational vehicle, you tend to look for the best performance because you don’t have as much reasons to choose a bike from another one. But i still agree with you that the Ninja 650 is one of the best bike in the 650 range because of its price and all which is perfect for a beginner or for people that want a sport 650 and don’t know a lot about motorcycles.
@@notflick404 I think we're closer in our views than some will assume. I would still argue after being around powersports buyers and working with sales teams for powersports, that you may be surprised how many people differ from your opinion on overall specs. But again. I hear you. I appreciate you adding your thoughts to the dialogue here.
This is a great stater bike.
There is a reason and it’s because this bike is amazing.. im bummed that the cost keeps going on.. pre pandemic you could buy this new out the door for less than $10k and that is no longer the case.. if they want to get a new generation in their seats they need to realize the new generation can’t justify costs over $10k. They need to stay under it or die out.
I'd rather get the GSX-8R.
I'm looking forward to reviewing that when I can get my hands on one!
Yep. A much better bike. The 650 is dated now.
Yeah, but it's too tall for my son who is 5'7". Got the Kawi 650 because he felt better on it.
Gold standard ? 😂😂😂 seriously it’s not lol
I'm willing to be wrong. I just reviewed two bikes that I'll have up within the next day that are direct competitors to this. One in particular is FAR better from a spec sheet standpoint, but the Ninja continues to sell well for some of the intangible reasons. It still offers everything most people want in this class. Good styling, good performance, good price, good insurance rates, it's not a spec sheet winner, but it's a great ride still to this day.
@@PeterLoweOne
I just bought one for my 5'7" tall son. Perfect ergonomics for him, power is barely good enough, but it is good enough.....upright position is nice.
It looks like a grown ass man trying to sit on a bmx bike meant for a teenager. Than again, I’m 6’4 230 sooo i guess most sport bikes will look like that if I’m seated on one 😅
This bike fits me well, but you may prefer something like a Versys 650 which has a more upright adventure bike style to it. That bike shares this engine, has great handling (and higher spec suspension) but also fits taller riders well. The addition of remote preload adjustment on the rear shock also allows you to really dial in the suspension for your weight and any gear you want to carry. I owned the Versys 650 for years and I think it's a great bike, especially for taller riders.
If it came with a 180 rear tyre i would buy it
Why though? It handles great with the 160. Very flickable! Is it just looks?
🤔 How about a Quick Shifter as an accessory?!