Did Jon Jones Shatter Ciryl Gane?
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Francis exposed Gane's weakness over 5 rounds and Jones just smashed him in less than 2 min.
That’s not even true because gane easily won the 1&2 round, Gane took Francis down in the fifth could’ve won it but went for a heel hook got reversed but it’s not like it was some dominant performance from Ngannou 😂
@Z_Rodriguez13 i agree with what you're saying but still nganno should not have been able to do what he did
@@andrevisser961 fair enough can’t really argue that
@@Z_Rodriguez13facts
Tell me you didn’t watch the Magumbo fight without telling me you didn’t watch the fight
It's admirable that he's loyal to his team but they aren't fixing his weaknesses. Until he beats a wrestler/grappler or changes teams, it's unfortunately hard to believe in him
I believe Francis knew this and that’s why he left
@@jesusbaltazar3524 I think so too
I think this is 100% on the money
Yeah if he stays with that bum Lopez he’ll never be a champ
@@JPMMAPicksje suis sur vous êtes tous français et vous parlez en anglais
You guys hit on it at the start, Gane is basically a striking specialist in a division with very few (if any) others. He was never really tested, the UFC pushed him fast because they needed leverage in the Francis situation.
and they needed a french super star since Frenchmen cannot fight
I don't even have to watch the video to answer....no. Getting beat by Ngannou was a very painful loss. He viewed Ngannou as being lower than him and got thoroughly beat by an injured version of him, THAT is embarrassing/damaging. Getting out grappled by Jon Jones, a guy lots of fans say is the GOAT, is not embarrassing.
Gane is done. You're a casual who plays Fortnite. Go away
@@user-vr4lz1vu5z what is blud waffling bout???
he beat ngannou
He won the ngannou fight tho
why they put lost on gane against ngannou so
Absolutely.... Francis out grappled him with one leg.... Jones destroyed him in 2.5 Minutes with Grappling.... What professional fighter would not doubt themselves.... Now he's fighting a another grappler who will surely try to get ahold of him and drag him down.... Plus this is in his hometown.... Rest in peace Gane.
this notion i see fans having is confusing just because a guy is a grappler does not mean if he grabs a hold of him hes just gonna win instantly. dont count gane out
@@harrywatson2694yes but Gane has demonstrated some pretty awful defensive wrestling recently and Spivak is one of the best grapplers in the division
@@nickc1481 on paper yeah but I don’t see it that absolute Cyril is the best striker in the division
Are we just forgetting that Gane absolutely wrecked almost every one of his opponents? Everyone other than the 2 most recent champs, and 2 of the best ever?
@@harrywatson2694 Cyril could not handle the pressure in Vegas... In his hometown as soon as Sergey gets the takedown it's over...
Jones only has one opponent for the belt: himself. If he keeps his shit together I don't think any of the current crop have a chance outside of maaaaaybe Aspinall
Pavlovich could catch Jones. I think he is Jones biggest threat but he isn't gonna stick around for that
Francis Ngannou tho, don't forget him as well.
@@constipatedsheep6864 almeida especially if he beats blaydes
Stipe beats Jones by DQ due to getting poked in the eye by the GOAT for like 1537 times.
Stipe 1 eye poke is equal to dc + jones 10000 eyepokes combined
I'm not sure I agree with a lot of the points raised here. Gane might never be a champion, but many a man comes and goes in this sport without ever winning a belt, it isn't the be all and end all of a career. Gane is a martial artist, not some pub brawler. He is there to be clinical and precise, not to just wildly flop his arms about and hope something lands. He is there to test his own skills against someone else, and sometimes the opponent is the better man, it doesn't matter. That to me is exciting, we can all learn from his displays of skill, see what works and what doesn't and we can learn from his failures. The UFC is a better place with him in it than without.
These guys make a lot of questionable points in their videos when addressing "excitement" in fights
@@kmax1223they are casuals
This is a reasonable take, the hypy wwe-esque takes can get rather tedious to listen, specially when the guys look like music reviewers.
Exactly. The Gane v Tuivasa fight was one of my top 5 favorite fights of last year. He may never be champion but he’s going to be in that top 10 for a long time coming even with the lack of grappling skills
right hat guy was awful…dude on left….not sure he even watches fights…what a terrible video from a channel I usually find interesting
"His fights aren't that interesting." 🤔
Gane/Tuivasa is arguably the best HW fight of the 2020s.
People understimate Tai's skillset just cause he has this easy- party like personality there's no shame in getting dropped by him and yet Gane was still way ahead of him in all three rounds outstruck him and frustated him during the whole fight and Tai was on a 5 fights KO streak
Tai is not that good my guy he’s a slugger no wrestling what are you talking about
As a French, I will say this: Ciryl does NOT care that much about his MMA career. That much is clear in his French interviews where he can express himself the best. He sees it as a way to make money. And he also doesn’t have a big ego. He really doesn’t care, so don’t worry about him being shattered. But that mentality is what makes him a fraud.
What did he say in french interviews that makes you think that he doesn't care about his MMA career ??
How do you see his fight with Spivak going? Do you think his grappling gets exposed further? Or does Spivak get fraud-checked?
@crazypato3752 he said it multiple times in French media. (I'm also french)
@@crazypato3752 said he doesn’t care if he loses, if he gets knocked out, that MMA is just a way to make money. Doesn’t care if he’s never champ
@@madgavin7568 Spivak is not a fraud although is chin is a bit suspect. I think if Spivak’s defense on the feet is good enough, he should be able to take Gane down without breaking a sweat
He exploited a major hole in his game that Francis revealed and I fully expect Spivac to do the same.
He needs to get away from his coach and train with a proper team that teaches solid defensive wrestling
I remember when everyone was giving Ngannou shit (probably UFC bots) based on hearsay from his former coach, with zero evidence. That Fernand Lopez guy is a media whore and a parasite, Ngannou was right to leave him.
Agree..that’s been on my mind for a long time now..let’s hope Gane and his team figures everything out this time.
The absolute biggest threat in HW has to be Pav. He's just absolutely massive and the extra years he had to work more on his grappling would probably make a night and day difference compared to his debut.
Pav is extremely one dimensional and he’s pulled out of fights with aspinal twice
pav is a beast but never ever assume a heavyweight to have good or improved ground game until you see proof
Yea aspinall is the better of the two technically
People shoulda noticed Cyril said he doesn't train MMA that seriously. He said that leading up to the Jon fight. Guy's cooked.
It's not at all unbelievable that Jones beat Gane but man, was I shocked when he took him down with what looked (to me at least) like a really sloppy takedown. And that was the beginning of the end.
That was my biggest take away as well. The TD happened more out of circumstance rather than Jon actually gunning for it and he still took him down. I think Jon has even mentioned he was surprised how easy he got it
Jon didn't look good either, he seemed slower and his striking was not good, and he still made it look easy😂
@@DeltaPKA He did. And yet the fight still didn't really give us a good indication of what he's like at heavyweight. Just over too quickly. And you have to wonder if Gane wasn't somewhat overwhelmed by the moment, given his own performance.
Listening to Dana pretend he didn’t purposely gift Jones a fight against a guy with no ground game (while making sure Francis and Stipe were out of the picture of course), is quite titillating.
Gane die better against Francis that Stipe thought...
@@crazypato3752 wha? ..... Dude, Francis DOMINATED Gane for the most part despite being injured.
Stipe got caught by a much improved Francis after he thought he hurt Francis more than he actually had and got caught rushing in to try and finish. Not to mention the fact that Stipe fought a HEALTHY Francis TWICE (and beat him well the first time).
MMA math doesn't always work out the way people think, and maybe Jones will dominate Stipe, but Gane has been working on the wrong math problem for a while now.
Have a good day
@@mrdumbfellow927 Stipe fought an unprepared, overconfident Ngannou the first time even Dana said that Francis was traveling all over the place and not training seriously yet Stipe didn't finish him.
In the second fight N'Gannou defend and even reversed Stipe's TD before the KO.
Gane took less damage in his Ngannou fight than Stipe took in his first fight with N'Gannou where he dominated.
@@mrdumbfellow927 Ngannou dominated gane ?? He lost the first two rounds and was losing the final round until Gane went for a leg lock.
Gane lost the fight More than Francis won it
You should make a video on the Jon Jones curse.
A few of the people he fought who had a lot of hype went on losing skids after losing to him.
Despite the drugs and controversies, he might truly be chosen by God to be the greatest mma fighter of all time.
Also, it’s too early to tell if Cyrl is shattered or not, booking him against one of the best grapplers in heavyweight is dirty 😂
Didn't curse them he gave them life time injuries.
Jon is a cruel fighter and he'll hurt you he's so pin point with his dirty strikes knee olqiue kicks
Damaging the nerves in the legs kicking the knees and legs
He knows where too injure you .
Santos
DC
Mr TRT Vitor
Rampage
Jon hurts you
@@NRC613Reyes I think is the worst example of how much your career can fall off after a Jones fight, even tho he arguably beat him. He’s now on a 4 fight skid including the Jones’ fight with his last three fights being ko/tko losses. Brutal.
@@LeoScottJon exploits either existing injuries or damages you for life.
Don't know how exactly how he does it.
It's as if Jon hits you his hardest where he knows he won't ko. You.
Jon isn't a normal fighter
Cyril is not cursed, he's a blessed young father. That changes a man. Cyril is a great fighter but I don't see him in the UFC for long if he does not deliver a spectacle because that's is what this all about for Dana and UFC's fan and he knows he already got the message quite early in his UFC career so he has this pressure and I think it is still there especially against a superstar like JJ. I think what got him in the ring is Jon Jones' aura, when he joined the UFC in france interview he said a few times he admired Jon Jones and he's one of the reason why he got motivates to switch from MMA. He got impressed he and he lost it really fast, a headlock like this is not devastating on your moral, it hurts to lose yes but Cyril is the kind of guy who copes fast realizing he made it up until JJ which quite the achievment already; how many UFC fighters would have had this kind of opportunity?
or maybe he fights people who are a bit past it?
It shocks me that "MMA journalists" don't like watching Gane as he "will never be champion" it's literally your job to cover the sport and only 5% of the UFC roster will ever hold the belt ! The UFC put him on a fast lane and he wasn't ready you can't blame HIM blame the matchmakers
Nah. Just JBJ fans.
I hope gane has improved grappling cause i love watching his fights.
tom aspinall fires his newly healed knee through the underside of jones' jaw in the 3rd round and leaves him gasping like a toddler falling off its first flat seat swing
One thing i also see from Gane is him hitting people in the back of their heads. Like with his fight with Derrick Lewis.
I'm not going to say he needs control, but absolutely, undeniably, literally everyone does that.
@@orlyjavier3627 fair point
"... Derrick Lewis" and Tuivasa.. and JDS.. and Mayes.. and Big Country. And he kneed a downed opponent in the face in some small league smh
Gane can’t force opponents to stop turning there head mid strike 🤔
@@kingjames1586 true but it look intentional at times. Either that or i just need stop paying attention every detail.
After Jones beats Miocic, Pavlovich gets a bad case of food poisining the day before his fight against Bones. The reason ? The Russian machine is drinking vodka and not Howler Heads in the weeks leading up to the fight. Out of solutions, the UFC turns to the man, the myth, the legend, Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski who was supposed to fight on the undercard. It looks like Arlvoski is no match for Jones, the Belarus is getting mauled for all 4 rounds but with 30 seconds left on the clock and Jones on top of him, he manages to find the last strength left of his career and get Jones's achilles heel and submits Jones to regain his championship in the same way he did almost 20 years before. That's my story and I'm sticking up to it
Strong disagree. Not only did he not break him, I'd actually like to see Ciryl vs Jones 2. But truth be told, I don't think Ciryl takes MMA seriously. He doesn't seem to consider himself a fighter, but an athlete, which I think is the wrong mentality for this sport. He should've taken Khabib's offer to train in Dagestan, and he'd rip Jones to shreds.
Gane could train for years and he would never cover the gap in grappling skills between him and Jones enough to not get manhandled again. Like you said he most likely didn't take mma very seriously because he could get by on his crazy athleticism and striking skills but a dominant grappler like your Jones and Cormiers have been wrestling since they were children and if you weren't doing the same realistically you won't ever catch them.
@@capncrunch6209 Totally agree. Except Gane doesn't have to catch up to them. Adesanya has trash grappling, but has decent takedown defense. That's all Gane needs too. Just enough skill to not get taken down. Doesn't even have to learn how to take people down himself.
Gane is 33. That’s still young for a Heavyweight
Lmao no its not. You should be properly established in your prime by 33
Especially the fact he started MMA in 2018, his maximum longevity should be 10 more years ahead of him.
@@leebinpoggersmomento6101 He started MMA in 2018, his maximum longevity should be 10 more years ahead of him, also HW's are known for fighting even at older age.
@@IbrahimIbrahim-vu3zb known for fighting at older age but at the top of the division ? No, unless both are old
@@suhailshaikh8529 DC who was 39 years old beat Derrick Lewis who was 33, Randy Couture, Dan Severn has beaten so many younger guys than them and they are HW's, shut up.
The Jon Jones curse continues. Nobody that Jones has fought, other than DC, has been able to recover to where they once were.
Don’t forget Glover too. He became the champ at 42 over 7 years after losing to Jones
@@harimohil3359 so gane will become champ after 7 years , thanks for your point
@@suhailshaikh8529 never said anything about cereal gone my casual friend
Hopefully it was just complacency that’s been exorcised from him now. I know you can’t take the Embedded series at face value but it did seem to imply Gane was very complacent in the run up to the JBJ fight
It has nothing to do with his personality or how bombastic he is. It’s all about the skills. He needs to improve his wrestling and jiu jitsu if he wants to be the best.
Interesting way you guys phrased it near the end. Big difference between guys who are *technically* very good, like from a literal basis they are very technical and skilled. Gane being a great example. But when it comes down to a fight with a KILLER, they fall short. Obviously angry beefed up guys would get smoked without formal training, but you get someone in there like Jones who is both highly skilled AND has the savage instinct in the octagon, very difficult matchup for a prettyboy clean cut fighter like Gane. And I like Gane too he’s a super likeable character, build of a champ, but not the heart of one.
The dude in the brown shirt really just seems like a Gane hater
Ya'll are too hard on Gane. He had a bad 2 minutes against Jones. To answer your question, yes I'm excited to see him fight and no it doesn't have to be in Paris. Let's not forget the fight he put up against Francis. The Tuivasa fight was amazing! So what if he's a nice guy, he is still a heavy weight that moves like a middle weight and I love seeing him perform!
Gane's performance against Jones was pathetic, there is zero positive takeaway from that fight. Ngannou was injured and an absolute shell of himself in the fight because of it, yet Gane still couldn't get it done. That's absolutely embarrassing.
Yeah the Tuivasa fight was great fun, but Tai is pretty one-dimensional if we're being honest, not the best win.
Anyone else find it hilarious that the way UFC works is almost a mirror image to how WWE works
A larger light heavyweight that is good at wrestling can beat most of the heavyweights in the UFC. We have seen this happen recently with Jon Jones and Jailton Almeida, in which the latter could be argued that he isn’t a true heavyweight and he still destroyed Jairzinho just by simply being a good wrestler. Elite wrestlers will always rise to the top by default because takedown defense and grappling, especially in this era, is absolutely abysmal in the heavyweight division.
Just like randy couture in the old days he only would weigh in at 220 but would ragdoll 300 pd giants like Tim Sylvia
Volkov KO'd Jair in the first round and I don't see you guys hyping him up
I honestly miss the pre-USADA Heavyweight days. That was when top Heavyweights were actually talented like JDS and Cain, even Overeem.
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When Tom Aspinal said he said was going best the winner of this fight as a title elimantor. He said he was going to fight Jon Jones and win. When he said all that, I looked over to my wife and said, "I believe him."
Tom Aspinal absolutely smothers Jones with heavy weight pressure and has the wrestling defense for the first 2 rounds.
3rd round, Tom is going to Hurt Jones and Jones will panic wrestle and Aspinal will submit him. Thats when Tom Aspinal becomes heavyweight champ.
That's what people have been saying for years, but not gonna happen sadly
also, one oblique kick to that knee will send aspinall down again
Fight Tom. If he can beat Tom, then he'll be legit in my eyes
great video!
People talk about his wrestling weakness, the guys been doing this sport for no time, picked up stand up and is brilliant at it, what makes people think he can't do the same on the ground, the guy is a standout natural athlete, and there's no way I'd count him out at this early stage in his career.
A few minutes in, and you're being a little hard on Gane here. He eventually beat the shit out of Tai, with a beautiful sequence, but it's not good enough because he was knocked down? Tai can crack anyone. Do I see Jones getting clipped by Tai? It's more than possible; Jon is hittable and has been hit flush.
Of course y’all gone hype Aspinall over Gane lol they need to let them two fight and we will revisit this topic
Gane did the UFC a favor to get one of their PPV stars behind a belt.
That shot of Gane's face after the insane win of Jones said so much in a single photo to me. Just utter dominance, and anyone currently in that division has little chance, all fighting for No.1 Contender til he is gone. Maybe if someone like Izzy, Volk, Islam or DJ if still in UFC ate one of those Super Mario mushrooms we would have an interesting division but Jon wants to be wherever he can be dominate like he is now anyway, and looked at as the GOAT as much and completely as possible. Thats always been his thing.
there are scary contenders that could challenge jones (pavlovich, aspinall, and almeida) but yeah jon is too great
With all the skills Gane has, if he fixes his ground game, he'll actually be very scary 😨
Remember we didn’t know how Jon Jones was going to perform after a long layoff. I say Francis Ngannou wrestling offense caught Gane by surprise.
To me, heavyweight was actually - in reality - ALWAYS gonna be so, so, SOOOO much more a piece of cake for Jon than light heavyweight ever was for him, and even then, whenever he actually applied himself, even decently (at LHW), he was going to beat everyone out there, at least in the world we live in, devoid, as it were, of a TRUE match for his artistic capacity for fighting - he deeply understands how to be extremely damaging, extremely efficiently, to another human being - and that's a fucking ART.
Sad he couldn't believe he could do so without resorting his own little nasty version of speed ("mother's little helper") - the steroids, which allow you to recover from anything, always, every single fucking day with straight-up miraculous impact, whether it's any kind OR degree of physical abuse and training, or almost any kind OR degree of alcohol and partying. That - THAT - would have shown his inner pussy, and all his inner failings, to the whole world. (But of course, he never would've been exposed to the world without the steroids lifting him above and across what-all would have OTHERWISE been his early self-destruction in life, anyway - he resorted at a young age to what is the "endless power-up" and the "endless extreme hormonal motivator" ... and combined it with his high self-esteem, his strong sense of identity, his own family's athletic pedigree and their high athletic standards, and his own inner visionary, creative, artistic capacity for severe damage to an opponent... not to mention the awesome and worthwhile benefit and advantage that the good green _rightly_ gives you/us, to connect to your artistic dreams... And, ALL together: we have the person, the life, the accomplishments, that we now know as "Jon Jones.")
Gr doesn't want tom or Sergei
Dude get a life nobody is reading all that 😂
@@TeddySnleonand when he beats them almeida and blaydes rises to the top then Volkov rises to the top and list continues, he will be in fedor situation where he will finally lose cuz of age lol
There's levels to it. Gane is above people like Lewis, rozenstruik about the same as Francis but not close to Jon Jones.
I actually think Ngannou is above Gane and on his best day, is a dangerous fight for Jones. The ONLY reason his fight with Gane was close was because Ngannou had a knee injury and was a shell of himself in the fight because of it, yet he still won. Not a great look for Gane.
Jones was very smart to take it to the ground. But I would have liked to have seen him stand on the feet with Gane a bit more.
They’re definitely attempting to set up Gane vs Aspinall
well if Jon didnt shatter him, it feels like the UFC is trying to finish him off considering now they've matched him up against Spivac, another extremely good grappler. Seems they have changed trajectory, especially with Jon back and instead of trying to push Ciryl now its like they want him to prove he can compete against the graping before they put a bunch of influence behind him again.
Not sure why they would literally do it in France if they wanted gane to lose. Not a whole lot of logic there.
@@noahmanc2 because its capitalizing on the fact of him fighting in France anyway. Its not like they go to France often and they still get the huge draw of him fighting in France for this fight whether he loses or not, and who knows where his career might be by the time they make it to France again. They've already done their initial push for him, he lost to Francis and they matched him up against Jon and im sure Jon winning that was their preferred outcome so at this point they are just capitalizing as much as they can as soon as they can. His stock may be less in the future, things come up, something could go on and end up potentially being years before they go to France again so the smart move is, they are having a card in France (which im sure the location has been planned for a long time like most) so they will put their France guy on there. But its def a losable matchup for him and personally i think i even lean towards Spivac. Simply put, either way it goes and even with them putting it in France, they most def. didnt give Gane a layup for this event.
Ganes respect for mma is zero one of the least hardworking guys we have in the top of the sport
its fairly obvious that dana & co kinda shelved gane after the first title loss simply cause they built him up to be the Guy That Beat Francis, so for "redemption" they put him up against the greatest fighter of all time
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That guy in the red never says anything of substance, he just kinda curses and says some random thing. The guy in the middle always has to correct him or cover for him so they don’t look so clueless lol
Yall calling stipe old just because of his last fight. If I had a dollar I'd put it on Stipe to ragdoll jones like no one knew was possible.
He needs to work on his ground game and make sure his timeing is on point like FR he has talent he just needs to work more harder
Either it motivates him and he becomes champion calibre or he just quits caring. I love Gane so I hope it was a wake up call for him to work out the wrestling issue
god i love these videos, you guys are fucking killer
Gane looked at jones like he didn't know grappling was allowed
there are two options he either manages to get ground game or he ends up as the next rozenstruik.
For sure, being beaten that easily with something you already knew was a weakness must shatter your confidence
that makes little sense, if you know it's your weakeness, and you get exposed, it won't shatter you. Getting s strength broken down is what shatters people. This has simply showed him that he can't just coast now, if he has any passion for it, he'll fix it.
Derrick Lewis's flying knee has entered the chat...
Title or not I enjoy watching a talented fighter
He's gotta stop hammer fisting people in the back of the head and learn to use a damn uppercut.
I believe this next fight is quite make or break for Ciryl.
I don’t think he has to stop every takedown or even win the fight but if Spivach just dominates him with wrestling I think his chances of getting another title fight or winning one are over.
If he shows up and is able to defend some takedowns and/or initiate good scrambles I think he can still compete at the top of the division even if Spivach does beat him via wrestling.. he just has to show SOMETHING to counter it.
@@Kyle_Wellsboth of them need wins but the thing is spivak already lost to aspinal so another rematch nobody wants to see , we want fresh matchups and aspinal vs blaydes also shouldn't happen atleast for couple of years
@@Kyle_Wells the thing is ngannou lost twice before winning the title in 2021, lewis lost twice then was about to face ngannou in late 2021 , it's up to them if they can climb the ladders later lol
who beats jones at heavyweight: Hank Schrader, he's the best damn cop in New Mexico
If anyone can come back and beat Jones at HW... It's the people champion, the undefeated, one with the biggest arms. Chael Sonnen.
make this type of content longer 😉
In all honesty, there is only one major hole in Ciryl Gane's fighting, and it's obvious, which is the grappling. Sure, he has some submissions on his record; however, unfortunately, it isn't enough to compete with people like Jon Jones, Tom Aspinall, etc. I say these because these are very well-rounded strikers but also are very dominate on the ground. All in all, I still am a major fan of Ciryl Gane; his striking is so crisp, but he also earned my respect when he fought Tai Tuivasa personally was such a great way of looking at how different people participate in this sport. I say that because Ciryl Gane went out there with no trash talk, no funny business, nothing just went out there incredibly humble and, most of all, excited to fight he is doing this because he has a passion for fighting and loves it so much he was smiling and having some laughs with Tai Tuivasa mid-match. That right there makes me like him a lot tbh his personality and his great striking, all he has to do is learn to take down defense, and well, all there is to grappling, and he would be such a force to be reckoned with.
To me, it was the Rozenstruik fight that showed me he was never going to be a champion unless he changed things up. Within 2 minutes of that fight, everybody watching knew it was going to go the distance, without any real jeopardy. To win a belt, you have to be willing to go and TAKE the belt, and not just coast into it, and that comes with taking risks.
Stupid argument. Standards for winning championship fights are the same as others. Do more than the other person.
Izzy wins title fights by coasting all the time
He finished Derrick Lewis lmao
@matepavic6929 you say that, and it does work like that on paper, but we all know how 50/50 rounds go in title fights. Tie always seems to go to the incumbent.
@@DReynolds_OG Yes, but that's fault of the judges who are idiots, not fighters for fighting the best way they think will secure them victory
The way Jones won against Gane, made me realize he’s gonna dominate that devision for some time to come.
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If Gane had been able to make the fight stand, he would have defeated Jones.
Not at all
@@John-ru4gzyes at all, gane is way better striker than jones.
I don’t know about that, Tai nearly sparked him out - I don’t think Gane even beats Tom/Pavlovich on the feet
If I was better looking, smarter, and made better decisions, I would be more successful in life. Also my dog would be a cat if it was a cat instead of a dog.
Good thing this isn't boxing
It was the combination of Jones and Francis. Francis (whos a mediocre wrestler at best) managed to expose Gane’s weakness for 3 rounds even on 1 leg.
Then, Jon comes in…outstrikes Gane for a minute, takes him down 2 times with ease and gets the easiest submission of his career on the #1 heavyweight.
Gane will never be champion, he will never beat Jon or Aspinall, and if time continues, Almeida will dispose of him
I think you guys are underestimating what a Gane vs Aspinall, or really, a France-England card, would be like
US citizen wouldn't care, but people in France and England definitely would. People usually tune in and watch Rugby (even if it's not so popular) when it's a France England match, and fighting being fighting, anyone can get it.
No. No he did not.
You’re right, Jon didn’t break Gane. Ngannou did.
That’s crazy, because he was on the floor in less then 10 minutes, what Ngannou couldn’t do in 25.
Yes, yes he did
@@dustondoesit3913it wasnt even half a round buddeh
Spoiler gosh 😅
Both great points but with JBJ throwing around the R word, it’s plausible that he’s next up, and I watch the fights cause I love fighting it’s such a beautiful sport
This fight will show how good tom aspinall is weirdly as he finished spivack in 2 mins easy with basically just an elbow and gane struggles shows how clear Jon and aspinall are
Gane goat on feet and is a strong big guy. He can be the goat if he just trains everything and not rely on his god given next gen stand up that’s unmatched in mma and kickboxing
Father Time By Retirement in the final round.
remember when cejudo lost to DJ and it wasn’t close then lost to benavidez then reinvented himself and took the belt off DJ. I’m not saying Gane can or will do this, we haven’t even seen the drive to do it, but it’s not impossible.
I think the only person with a chance is Tom Aspinall
Wait what, why wouldn't you want to see Jones vs Gane 2? If he beats Spivak and shows that he's worked on his wrestling and his TDD by stuffing his takedowns, why wouldn't you want to see him get a second chance? The chance of him getting finished that quick and in a freak way like that are pretty unlikely so I still think it could be a decent fight. Everyone always mentions how he's only been training MMA for a few years, but then is also ready to say he's finished after his wrestling is shown to not be top in the division. When you don't have a background in it, proper technical wrestling and wrestling defense is the most difficult thing to learn and takes the longest. That being said though, he does need to train with or bring in a proper wrestling coach if he wants to get better. Someone like DC I think could do wonders for him.
As for a killer instinct, a smaller part of it is his personality, but mainly it's that he just doesn't really care about fighting that much. To him it's just a sport and a way to make money, which is fine, but it's obviously not going to bring out a fire in him. It's also not a career profession for him, he wants to make as much money as he can and get out early.
Gane doesn't need an outsized personality and he doesn't need American fans because he embodies MMA in France. Same with GSP or Zhang Weili. His problem is simply his lack of wrestling and grappling defence which will make success difficult.
Edit: The "kill trigger" as you put it makes no difference here. It's not going to fix his lack of ground game.
Can someone tell me why the UFC is dancing around giving Pavlovich the title shot.
I forgot that fight happened. I guess my mind is just blocking Jones out at this point...
DC started at heavyweight, look up his numbers, he moved down to LHW because Cain Velasquez was at the time, the heavyweight champ. DC beat Josh Barnett in a five rounder. DC won the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix.
Hype!
This is a huge fight for Gane, he can't drop three fights in a row
He's not in crisis mode. Calm down.
My question is does the UFC want Ciyrl,Tom, Pavlovich or Jailton as there new champion? My thoughts are Tom.
I think Aspinall can beat Jon Jones due to his technique on the ground. No doubt he’s much faster than jones, like you guys said he’s moves almost like Cyril. So with that being said if he can keep the fight standing or at least survive on the bottom I believe he can tag jones and potentially finish him.
no Gane
no pain
know Gane
know pain
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I just think Jones is that good, gane was clearly a bit star struck and I think he manages to defend spivacs takedowns and finishes him in the third round after working his body with jabs and teeps.
Sergei has a very real chance of overwhelming Jon jones. Power mixed with wrestling ability makes me think he’ll get ground and pounded
Who beats Jones and how? Well in my opinion, Jone's weakness is gonna be the fact he's not used to going and fighting people bigger or same size as himself. So I see someone like a tom aspinall winning against him. He has very powerful strikes and most importantly leg kicks as Jones legs are pretty suspect and can also stuff takedowns or potentially even try and implement his own grappling which may be effective due to his size and crazy good jiu jitsu. Plus he's much faster and younger, one of the youngest in the division in fact. So yeah all in all out of everyone I think Aspinall would be the one to beat jones.
Sergei pavlovich stuffs Jon’s takedowns and turns it into a brawl and slugs Jon to put him out in RND 2
wanderlei Silva: wannaNOW?!
I'm a fan of Gane but Francis out grappled him then Spivac should have an easy night ahead of him. Although with the MMA math it never works out that easily.