That was a very, very good comparison. I suspect that what the customer will prefer will depend highly on his specific rig. I can definitely see that depending on how dark, or bright the amp and are guitar are one is going to prefer one or the other pedal. Anyway, both sound nice. Hard to pick just one.
So are both of these currently made now, how many different wahs does Vox make now, and which is generally considered the best top dollar wah made by Vox? Which of these has the most wah, the widest sweep of tone difference?
Maybe wider doesn't necessarily means "better". If it has more width but you find you only get usable tones out of a short sweep, that is, not in the extremes, then you'd be better off getting the one with the shorter, but more useful, sweep.
Going by the gut shots of the circuit board it must be the 847a, my USA-made V847 looked completely different, and since I swapped out the stock green dot inductor for a Whipple and fitted an ICAR taper pot it blows my V846-HW out of the water
Dude, thanks for making me realize that the v847 I have sounds like crap compared to the new v846 release. Now I just need to find a comparison of the V846HW to the original V846. I wonder if I'll hear the difference.
I think that depends on the pickups, amp, and the style of music.If you compare all brands, there's a lot of variety in overall eq's, articulation , and sweep.And there's an even more significant discussion regarding what cuts through a live mix, and what gets lost,- just as with OD's and Fuzzes. Overall, the sound that cuts through is going to seem harsh when played solo; this goes double with more than one guitar or keyboards.Unfortunately, many of those details that we get hung up on just get washed out or buried.
They both sound great, but for me, the benefit of the handwired has less to do about sound, and simply about build. It's a pedal you can maintain and keep going forever, like a vintage tube amp. I have a 1970s Shin Ei wah that is through hole PCB, and I could easily repair anything on it if I had to. Surface mount technology only benefits manufacturer's profits, because it makes mass production more efficient.
When you say vintage tube amps, do you also mean new Fender Bassbreakers? I care about gear that withstands the rigors of touring. What do you think of Axe FX and Line 6 Helix floor multi fx pedals? Do you think they’re less resistant than tube amps?
@@Chris-tf6xo Well, tube amps, I’d differentiate between vintage, being point to point hand wired, which is the easiest to work on, and modern, also using tubes, but using printed circuit boards instead of point to point, which you can still work on, but not as easily as point to point. The Bassbreaker is almost certainly a printed circuit board amp. They can be a bit more prone to failure I think. I did watch one video review of a Bassbreaker on the In the Blues RUclips channel, and the amp failed and started smoking while they were demoing it, which is a little troubling, but doesn’t necessarily indicate it’s a bad amp (they *were* cranking it on full, maybe more so than it would be used by a normal person in real life). As far as digital modelling, I initially was sceptical, because they are digital, and when digital gear fails, you pretty much just have to throw it away. I’m starting to come around on modelling though. I think it can sound good, it’s certainly convenient, and as long as it’s not something you’re hoping to hand down to your kids and their kids, it’s reliable enough. My main sticking point on modelling is that, I refuse to pay high prices for it. I think it’s ridiculous that some modellers and digital amps nowadays cost as much or more than tube amps. The basic sound source is software that you can get in an app for your phone for super cheap. Yet when they put it in hardware form, they charge hundreds to thousands for it? That’s a load of bull**** as far I’m concerned. So yes, I’m all for modellers, but just don’t go for the expensive ones. They basically all seem to sound very similar to each other, regardless of price.
@@darwinsaye There’s still debate wether well built circuit board tube amps or hand wired amps are better to maintain. I like the Bassbreaker 30r because of its sound and it’s less heavy than a Bassbreaker 15. Especially for its Plexi like sound.
It surely needs a mod out of the box though. “2 diodes cut to prevent tube failure” and I’d immediately replace it with Mesa Boogie tubes because the stock ones are cheap unbranded tubes.
@@Chris-tf6xo I was surprised to learn when I looked into the Bassbreaker line that they were all completely different amps. I had assumed because they are a “Bassbreakers” they they were all trying to emulate a Bassman/Bluesbreaker, just with different levels of power and size, but apparently the 45 is to only model that really follows that topology.
Normally I don't like too "warm" Wah tones. And I don't enjoy too much sweep in a Wah. But the HW tone is warm enough and got a more satisfying sweep for me. The V847 heel up is way too bright in my opinion. Definetly going with the V846 HW.
Do you selves a favour, any 60s rock fans please go for the Hand-wired V846 VOX Wah - I owned the V847 for years, its not bad but doesnt compare to the Hand-wired V846 VOX Wah.
to correct shrill treble on the V847 simply set the pinion back a tooth. It is not a defect of the pedal but only its adjustment.
Fantastic comparison. The 846 sounds beautiful.
That was a very, very good comparison. I suspect that what the customer will prefer will depend highly on his specific rig. I can definitely see that depending on how dark, or bright the amp and are guitar are one is going to prefer one or the other pedal. Anyway, both sound nice. Hard to pick just one.
V846 was good with single coils and the 47 probably would suit him buckets thx great demo
Awesome comparison! 846 would be my selection, but my wallet likes the 847. Plenty of those used as well. Both good units..... thanks again
846 hands down!
So are both of these currently made now, how many different wahs does Vox make now, and which is generally considered the best top dollar wah made by Vox? Which of these has the most wah, the widest sweep of tone difference?
Maybe wider doesn't necessarily means "better". If it has more width but you find you only get usable tones out of a short sweep, that is, not in the extremes, then you'd be better off getting the one with the shorter, but more useful, sweep.
Good wrist action!
Is that the new chinese or the USA V847 version?
Kenny!🤘
Is this the 847 or 847a?
Going by the gut shots of the circuit board it must be the 847a, my USA-made V847 looked completely different, and since I swapped out the stock green dot inductor for a Whipple and fitted an ICAR taper pot it blows my V846-HW out of the water
Dude, thanks for making me realize that the v847 I have sounds like crap compared to the new v846 release. Now I just need to find a comparison of the V846HW to the original V846. I wonder if I'll hear the difference.
I think that depends on the pickups, amp, and the style of music.If you compare all brands, there's a lot of variety in overall eq's, articulation , and sweep.And there's an even more significant discussion regarding what cuts through a live mix, and what gets lost,- just as with OD's and Fuzzes.
Overall, the sound that cuts through is going to seem harsh when played solo; this goes double with more than one guitar or keyboards.Unfortunately, many of those details that we get hung up on just get washed out or buried.
They both sound great, but for me, the benefit of the handwired has less to do about sound, and simply about build. It's a pedal you can maintain and keep going forever, like a vintage tube amp. I have a 1970s Shin Ei wah that is through hole PCB, and I could easily repair anything on it if I had to. Surface mount technology only benefits manufacturer's profits, because it makes mass production more efficient.
When you say vintage tube amps, do you also mean new Fender Bassbreakers? I care about gear that withstands the rigors of touring. What do you think of Axe FX and Line 6 Helix floor multi fx pedals? Do you think they’re less resistant than tube amps?
@@Chris-tf6xo Well, tube amps, I’d differentiate between vintage, being point to point hand wired, which is the easiest to work on, and modern, also using tubes, but using printed circuit boards instead of point to point, which you can still work on, but not as easily as point to point. The Bassbreaker is almost certainly a printed circuit board amp. They can be a bit more prone to failure I think. I did watch one video review of a Bassbreaker on the In the Blues RUclips channel, and the amp failed and started smoking while they were demoing it, which is a little troubling, but doesn’t necessarily indicate it’s a bad amp (they *were* cranking it on full, maybe more so than it would be used by a normal person in real life). As far as digital modelling, I initially was sceptical, because they are digital, and when digital gear fails, you pretty much just have to throw it away. I’m starting to come around on modelling though. I think it can sound good, it’s certainly convenient, and as long as it’s not something you’re hoping to hand down to your kids and their kids, it’s reliable enough. My main sticking point on modelling is that, I refuse to pay high prices for it. I think it’s ridiculous that some modellers and digital amps nowadays cost as much or more than tube amps. The basic sound source is software that you can get in an app for your phone for super cheap. Yet when they put it in hardware form, they charge hundreds to thousands for it? That’s a load of bull**** as far I’m concerned. So yes, I’m all for modellers, but just don’t go for the expensive ones. They basically all seem to sound very similar to each other, regardless of price.
@@darwinsaye There’s still debate wether well built circuit board tube amps or hand wired amps are better to maintain. I like the Bassbreaker 30r because of its sound and it’s less heavy than a Bassbreaker 15. Especially for its Plexi like sound.
It surely needs a mod out of the box though. “2 diodes cut to prevent tube failure” and I’d immediately replace it with Mesa Boogie tubes because the stock ones are cheap unbranded tubes.
@@Chris-tf6xo I was surprised to learn when I looked into the Bassbreaker line that they were all completely different amps. I had assumed because they are a “Bassbreakers” they they were all trying to emulate a Bassman/Bluesbreaker, just with different levels of power and size, but apparently the 45 is to only model that really follows that topology.
Normally I don't like too "warm" Wah tones. And I don't enjoy too much sweep in a Wah. But the HW tone is warm enough and got a more satisfying sweep for me. The V847 heel up is way too bright in my opinion. Definetly going with the V846 HW.
I'll take the V846HW
Then seem more different than one being better
Do you selves a favour, any 60s rock fans please go for the Hand-wired V846 VOX Wah - I owned the V847 for years, its not bad but doesnt compare to the Hand-wired V846 VOX Wah.
Just one thing. If the heel is down then the toes are up. So description should be a) heel down, b) toes down. Just sayin' :)
846 ❤
Honestly the reason I went for the Vox over the crybaby is how it looks. It’s beautiful.
846 all day
846, not even close.
Neither one have that vintage resonance. V846HW was huge dissapointment for me.