Rings of Powers Insane Reviews - Showrunners PANIC
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power have had 3 episodes on Amazon Prime video. But so far the Irish times have not been pleased with JD Payne and Patrick McKay due to the stereotypes of the Harfoot hobbits. Rings of Power has been likened to the Cats musical, and Screenrant thinks that the 25 million viewers of the premiere make all of the reviews that have happened for the show redundant. Is LOTR: Rings of Power likely to keep its viewers across the series on Amazon Prime video? Is Rings of Power worth watching?
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Welcome to the land of the weird, where Rings of Power is a cats musical, the Rings of Power showrunners get on their knees to beg forgiveness from the Irish Times and ScreenRant are, well, ScreenRant. I'm not sure how we passed through the normal defences into some weird land of the bizarre but here we are with this video. Some articles are just too funny to pass up. But what are your thoughts? Let me know down below, and as always, thanks for watching :)
Why bring race into this?
Christmas or Cats.
Before Rings of Power, the show runners had written not one episode of television. Their only credit was uncredited additional writing on the film Star Trek Beyond. One of the two has an engineering degree.
How they could possibly be hired to do a show this big is a great question.
I suspect the Nomvete comment is how it's transcribed; the second clause seems to be correcting the first - that previously people _felt_ Tolkien was inaccessible to them, though it was always really accessible to anyone, and they've helped people to _feel_ it's accessible in a way Tolkien himself didn't. Absurd, but it suggests they got the message about Tolkien's global fanbase, though still have to pretend that _representation_ is essential.
The Star Trek: The Next Generation episode is called "Up The Long Ladder"
In the days of the magazine, we had a rule of thumb. 1 letter reflected 100 readers who didn't bother to write to you. If you got 10 angry/critical letter, you knew you were in trouble. If you got a deluge like this show is getting, you know your magazine will go bye-bye in the next six months, and you might get fired as its Editor-in-Chief
I love this analogy.
With show reviews it's probably more like 1 review reflects like 500-1000 people. I have personally never left a review on a show in my life, I think I should start with ROP.
@@Jp-eg7th (same for rotten tomatoes)
@@Jp-eg7th I wouldn’t be surprised if IMDB took a page out of the censorship book written by RUclips which lets you write a comment but ghosts/hides it. On our end we can see the comment but to everyone else it’s hidden. They don’t have to delete the comments or reviews, they just have to trick people into thinking their review is available to read when they’re the only one who can see it. Devious bas•t•ard•s.
@@Jp-eg7th Same with amazon. I have been trying to leave a review since day 1... still nothing.
Aside from his anger at what's been done to his work, I can imagine Tolkien pointing to this and saying "This is precisely why I don't write allegory. You set this trap for yourselves."
At this point he’s like a jet engine spinning in his grave
Exactly..it full of it..esp the black elves scenes..lol suspicious Nast white villagers dislike his presence..then he's caught by very white orcs, and chained up, and told to dig. .lol allegory!? YES! Insultingly so..to EVERYBODY!!!
@@darianstarfrog Wait until he refuses to sit in the back of the bus to Barad Dur
@@redrum3405 omg…lol🤣🤣
Pretty much why it was universally loved and why Amazon felt it was worth spending a billion dollars on it in the first place.
Sauron was not evil to begin with, he had to learn from the Harfoots..
Actually Galadriel, as the embodiment of all things Karen and Mary Sue, drove Sauron to evil ... it was either that or drink to erase the memory of her.
Sauron treats Orcs better than Harfoots treat their own relatives.
1000 years of peace and rule by the elves in Middle Earth lead to the Harfoots. Its possible to have some sympathy with Sauron wanting to change things.
Maybe the harfoots learned from Galadriel. "Keep moving!"
Brilliant.
The part when Galadriel stared down the Orc army and shouted, “In combat situations I always use Dove anti-perspirant with essential oils!” sent chills up and down my spine. Epic writing!
I haven't watched it. I want to believe this...
Just imagine it!
If Tolkien's work was accessable to more people, it might be some of the most widely read works of literature in history!
The mind BOGGLES!🤯
The show-runners response would be that reading is obsolete and that books as a whole are not accessable. That the show is aiming at a post-literate audience.
@@Jim-Tuner I've not been able to find anything of substance that the scriptwriters Payne and McKay have actually done.
It's pretty amazing that Amazon trusted this pair with the best part of a billion dollars.
I know, wish it was. I mean if it was more accessible it could have been the second most translated book of all time! Shame it wasn't though...
Tolkien's original work: you can believe that it's a fantasy version of Britain without offending anyone
Rings of Power: every British stereotype under the sun, offending everyone
Great job, Amazon.
Is Ireland a part of Britain?
@@fortunateson101 not part of the great britain, but part of british isles
@@fortunateson101 it's the original Britannia Minor, although that term was later used to refer to Brittany
Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Cor blimey, mate! You don't like Yanks taking the piss? I look forward to Essex Numenoreans
I'm waiting for Sauron to pull out a light saber at this point, and attack Guyladrielle and she parries it with her magical bracelets and casts Adavakadavera on him.
They will have an affair for sure
You forgot him telling her that he is her birthing person.
That actually sounds interesting!
The Sauron-Galadriel Romance is coming.
I mean, it is just fantasy, right?
Kudos to the Irish Times for calling those idiots out so hard that they had to give an interview to defend themselves... and dig a deeper hole!
The Irish & Scottish stereotypes used for the Harfoots & the Dwarves is shocking. I guess this is what happens when woke producers think inclusivity & diversity quotas are more important than avoiding actual racism.
Obviously it's ok when it's against white people.
I guess this is what happens when woke producers think inclusivity & diversity quotas are more important than.........making a watchable product.
They are white nations so its ok to be like this to them, Can deny it but i mean...
@@matthardy301 Sadly you are correct my friend. In spite of the tremendous progress the world (especially the west) has made in the fight against racism, we find ourselves right now, in a situation where a growing number of people are quite comfortable demonising one particular skin coloured group, confident in the knowlege their hateful words will be supported by many. Even more more surprising, is these people will proclaim themselves 'anti racist' in the same breath. Sad times indeed.
Thanks for your reply.
Bro why's that racist
The part where the harfoots said "dangit, they're always after me lucky charms!" sent shivers down my spine. they should save the scripts for the Smithsonian!
Not as moving as the point where Durin stared wide-eyed at Elrond and proclaimed "We're aw doomed!"
Galadriel shouting "I'm Galadriel" in the midst of battle instead of saving her brother was so inspiring it made the orcs tremble in fear!!
Maybe she really is the scourge of the orcs, just not because of her fighting skills, her narcissistic arrogant ungrateful crap is unbearable for the orcs to witness so they run in fear the moment they see her constipated face
No need for these fake quotes anymore, since the reality of "When Galadriel jumped off her ship just before Valinor and swam back to Middle-earth" is more ridicilous than anything people tried to come up with. Good job, showrunners, you unintentionally outdid the memes.
@@Arvathyyll When Galadriel, who planned to casually swim across an entire ocean, abandons poor raft-stranded people during a monster attack while being proficient in effortlessly fighting against insanely strong monsters, it deeply inspired me.
@@Arvathyyll oh this is just the beginning. we've got 5 whole seasons down the pipeline. buckle up.
@@Arvathyyll a true hero of middle earth!
The way Galadriel acts I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out she was Sauron in disguise this entire time.
thats the only way theyd save it lollll
I think sooner or later Sauron in this show is going to turn out to be the hero we deserve.
@@Jim-Tuner there was this theory that the story of GOT could end in the Night King winning and everyone turning into ice zombies, I kind of want Sauron to win here and turn everyone into orcs, I’d love to see this Galadriel eat maggoty bread for the rest of her stinking existence
🤣
@@VleesetendPlantje14 We’ve only had maggoty bread for three stinkin’ days!
What about their legs? They don’t need those.
The scene where Guyladriel said "Yippie-ki-yay m0th..rF...er" before shooting down everyone with a shotgun was amazing, so empowering, stunning and brave, just as Tolkien wrote it.
Was that before or after she said: "I pity the fool who doesn't like the smell of napalm in the morning!"?
@@Jp-eg7th Lies y remember to have read about the legendary Nakatomi plaza (Big a$$ building in elvish) in the silmarillion :v
@digifalc0087 I hear two orcs, one shell is a pretty popular video.
I didn't like Bruce Willis' cameo in which he apologized for being white and male and masculin.
The moment Galadriel walked out of the police station and her limp turned into a walk was amazing! She was Kaiser Soze all along!
Tolkien wanted to create a mythology for his people since he felt they lacked one. Rings of Power despises Tolkien so much that they not only decided to destroy his work but mock his people as well.
Wasn't Tolkien against his works being sold to Disney (because he knew Walt Disney and he wouldn't want Disney adapting anything from his writings)? I bet if Amazon and Jeff Bozo existed when Tolkien was still alive, he would have made a statement about not letting his works touch by them too.
These people loathe white men and everything they have created. The only reason they haven't destroyed LOTR sooner was because Christopher Tolkien always stopped them; that's why production of this show began a month after Christopher Tolkien passed away.
Evil can not create, it can only corrupt.
His people?
@@stanleyquine5020 the British.
Jew knew this was gonna happen
As a Hispanic male I love the world Tolkien created, because it's an amazing fantasy world that's engrossing and full of wonderful characters that bring ones imagination to life.. I don't need to be represented, I don't need anyone to change Tolkien's labor of love simply because what Tolkien wrote is a masterpiece.. What I need is for this raging bunch of woke reporters to stop writing about what I need as a minority.. These are the same hacks that don't give a shit that every fantasy or sci-fi movie made in the last 100 years basically has zero Hispanic representation so why are they so concerned about it now. The answer is pretty easy to suss out.. We aren't important to these asshat's until they need to use as a tool to push their woke agenda forward..
You hit the nail right on the head when you said they don't give a fuck about any of us 👌 they only care when we consume their lifeless products 🙄
@digifalc0087 Exactly.. LMAO
The only fantasy/scifi movie that comes to mind is Machete Kills Again....In Space.
I just saw a video about that by Call me Chato and a reaction from Ltino Slant that talked about exactly this false idea that diversity = black in movie and TV
asian here. and i completely agree.
Elendil: Wait, You jumped off the boat thousands of miles from shore?
Galadriel: Yes!
Elendil: Why?
Galadriel: Because The Sea is Always Right!
[Cut to dance number]
I was looking to the stars!! I am not a stone that looks to the depths!!!!
@@MyAramil Wait, was it Sea or 'C' as in....
The part where Arondir shouted to Galadriel: “Get to the choppaaa” brought tears to my eyes, best adaptation of Tolkien’s work ever. 10 out of 10 So brave and beautiful!
Speaking of choppers, you seen disparu’s , watching his mouth as he speaks is worse than watching rings of power
@@Mrturtlestomps The hell are you talking about? 😂 Great now I can't stop looking at his mouth.
Yeah when Galadriel said "you're one ugly MFer" I lost it.
Chopa is the Filipino term for Blowj*b.
@@UncleBroMiscellaneous 😬
Reminds me of that Simpsons focus group: "So you want a down-to-earth realistic show, that at the same time is completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots..."
When Galadriel steps out of the DeLorean wielding Mjolnir, and Celebrimbor just falls to one knee and says, "Great Scott!"......I actually cried, it was just so stunning and brave. It reminded me of all the years I had spent actively plotting with other men to thwart and oppress all women, and suddenly I felt such shame and regret.....that I ate 3 whole boxes of Oreos while full-on ugly-crying. This show has changed my life forever.
I was describing the ringworm of poo to an Irish friend who rejects 'TV' that there's this new film that has this bunch of dirty, cowardly, possibly inbred migratory folks that avoids everyone, travels in dirty unwashed caravans, loves things from nature and uses lanterns made from 'fairy lights' aka fireflies.
He gave me a look and asked 'They didn't have an Irish accent did they?'
I nearly went to the beyond that day...... I tried to tell him it's Tolkien which made the gentle caressing way worse. Blasphemy upon insult he said.
Okay so this didn't happen
I've always thought my sense of humor was from the Irish side of the family, now I know it.
Ok. This made me roar!! 🤘🤣
To be fair Lenny Henry's accent is Jamaican more than Irish.
Why would that description make someone assume it were meant to be Irish people ?
I thought depicting Irish people as drunks were the racists stereotype and not being nomadic people that lives close to nature who avoids socializing with outsiders ? To me it describes the stereotype of gypsies more so than Irish people .
Was the Irish depicted in the movie " Braveheart " an insult too ?
The Irish in the movie weren't shown wearing shiny Excalibur knight armor and speaking the king's English .
I don't know , was the movie offensive to the Irish 🤔 ?
When Galadriel says "I'll be back" and then drives a car through the front of the police station was amazing.
The radio silence around House of the Dragon in comparison to Rings of Power is quite telling.
I just watched Fellowship for the first time in years. In the first half hour it establishes a sense of magic and wonder. They go directly to the Shire and demonstrate their respect of Tolkien and the tone of his work. Oh and the intro is narrated by Galadriel, wise and powereful long before we meet her. Amazon has delivered a cynical bastardiziaion, paper thin, where Jackson understood that he had an honor to live up to. Even putting LOTR before the title Rings of Power is an insult.
I don't even like the LOTR films that much, I think they're overly emotional and pretentious, but I'll watch them 100 times in a row before Rings of Power.
I think you've nailed the core of the matter there: Rings of Power does indeed reflect the world as its makers see it. Which speaks volumes about them.
Hollywood needs to learn that Valid Criticism isn’t hate speech. Lol
You just boiled down everything into 10 words. So awesome!
They already know. The hate speech defense is a preplanned strategy. As someone else said, the people of colour are used as both a weapon and a shield. It's disgusting.
They know, but they just use that defence as a shield to try and keep the normies vaguely interested, since that's the audience they want - not the few people who always loved it, but the many who never even thought about it
The have always thought that they drive the market not the other way around. Tends to bite them in the ass as people are stopping watching their products.
Ego won't let them learn.
It was the Same with the new bs Star Wars Trilogie. Meanwhile Episode 1-3 was totaly bs too and had no female as a leadroll 🙄 People Are just fk stupid
The part when Guyladriel said of Sauron "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse" and then sends him a fish wrapped in paper, is incredible.
The part when Galadriel proclaimed, “They're Always After Me Lucky Charms!”! CHILLS... so brave and stunning!!
With an Irish accent of course.
That was my favorite part, too!!
But does Guyladriel have Lucky Charms?
Or Jellicle Balls? 🧐
Can u stfu with this meme.
The poor Irish are still being discriminated against, Bezos and Weber are so intolerant it's sickening. I think we should all agree that such bigoted individuals deserve no voice in our current year society.
@Ralph Reilly lolz
Everytime when Galadriel makes her iconic quote: „I’ll be back!“
I get Goosebumps.
When Arondir said to the male Orc “say hello to my little friend”, I broke down in tears
Really. Not many sex scenes can make me cry.
"...Elves are just angelic cats."
Had me laughing more than it should, but that level of crazy can only be solved by medication
6:16
This is among the most aggrevating part in this entire mess. They want the media to both "resemble the real world" and not be indicative of anything negative because "its a fantasy". In a just world people like this would be flayed.
As a cat lover, yes. If Elves were real they could only wish to be as anglic as cats.
Flayed??
You monster... How about chained to an oar.
Jellicle* cat
If by "solved by medication" you mean an axe to the face, then I'd agree 🤔 I honestly hope that the "author" of that article meant it as a farse
@@skychieftain Anjellicle* cat
The part where Galadriel told a child, "its not a tumour". Was inspiring, but short-lived when the child insisted it was.
IZ NOT A TUMAH!!!1!11!!!! LMAO
That Disa quote is quite literally Doublethink, simultaneously accepting two conflicting beliefs as truth. Fantastic we're now actually living in the world of Orwell's 1984.
I love the fact that their hypocrisy has caught up to the showrunners. They deserve all the criticism that they have received. I did watch the first episode but that was all I could stomach. A slow-moving story with miserable characters is not worth my time.
Hilarious isn't it? It's like playing around with a formula causes more issues than having just leave it alone.
Watched up to the second episode and I’m still not sure what the hell these dudes are tryna do with this series
The showrunners don't know what they are doing. They have never written an episode of television prior to Rings of Power. They have literally no industry credits. They have not written anything previous. One of them has an engineering degree.
Nobody understand why two people with no experience at all would be put in charge of one of the most expensive shows ever made.
I was done before episode 1 finished. I nodded off at one point.
@@Jim-Tuner Because they were willing to get paid to ruin Tolkien. The list of people rejected for the job would be interesting.
Also: Amazon won't let you review the show unless you've actually seen it. So their whole "review bombing" argument is out the window
When someone says something is "more accessible" that's Newspeak for 'dumbed down'. They've made a show for an audience they think are too stupid to read and/or understand the books. It was never for the book fans.
it means they inserted minority characters where they don't fit in the hopes that black people might watch it while alienating the fans who might otherwise watch it.
Makes about as much sense as making some of the Sioux warriors in 'Dances with Wolves" Chinese women because of diversity inclusion and representation.
@@jeffreyrichard2575 No, I think you will find that in this case the actress is basically saying 'we've made a dumbed down show for the idiocracy'. Look at the context in the interview.
The unhinged comparison to cats is bloody hilarious, thanks for sharing that. 🤣
Rings of Girl Power reminds me of a scene from Joe Dirt.
Joe is talking to a fireworks seller named Kicking Wing. But he’s not selling anything good because he only like Snakes and Sparklers. Joe says to him, “Well that may be your problem, it’s not about what *you* like. It’s the consumer.”
I guess a movie about a wandering hill billy made more of an impact on me than a billion dollar Lord of the Rings A.U. Fanfiction written by a 4th grader.
Congrats, Disparu, for nailing this so well. Yes, the words "now" and "always" cannot be reconciled, and their backtracking doesn't survive logic. But there's a gap that I think is very interesting. Who told the showrunners to respond directly to The Irish Times? I would welcome the possibility that there is someone above the Executive Producer and showrunners who is in damage control mode. Optimistically, that opens the door to demolishing this wreck and starting over.
The Irish Times review was scathing and it focused on the EXACT same pressure point Rings of Power marketing had been using against the fans. It would have been an easy counterpoint to use when they attack fans and you pull up the Irish Times about how you're treating people. That interview was most certainly damage control mode, it was also behind the subscription wall to the Irish Times lmao. If anything I'm surprised they waited this long to do it as it kind of just reminds everyone about the first article.
@@disparutoo ''against the fans''? What fans?
@@RexGalilae I can agree with that. How many times do we allow Amazon to run over the family pet before you figure out they can’t drive?
@@reek4062 Yes, I see where you’re going. I can actually draw the ven diagram showing fans of Tolkien and fans of AROP. Here goes: O O (nailed it).
@@nonmatt It seems you're in neither O
The moment when Galadriel pulls her sword out of the stone gave me literal chills down my spine.
Did she do that before or after she solved the puzzle box from Hellraiser? All I know if I'm glad they waited until episode three to have Morpheus show up to tell her she is the One.
The scene where Galadriel looks the Balrog straight into the eye and says "Tell me...do you bleed?" always sends shivers down me spine. IGN Score 10/10
"I've been a cop for ten years and I've never had to draw my gun" - Sauron
"Well that makes you a good man and a good man always knows his limitations" - Galadriel
So, Balrogs menstruate? Who would have thought!
Lmao that sounds so cringey and cliche. Smh
My favorite part was when one of the harfoots yelled, "they're after me lucky charms!" before they all ran and hid.
Then the Balrog responds "I ain't got time to bleed".
Tolkien was always accessible to people who could read. I read The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the ring when I was 12! You could check them out of the school library, the city library and find them in any book store for very low cost! Since the Peter Jackson movies were made, it has even been accessible to people who can't read. Half of it was accessible to people who can't read via the 50% completed animated version that was often aired on TV during the 80s too!
I love the bit where Not-Sauron says "No Mr Elrond, I expect you to die". What a gem!
The Star Trek TNG episode I believe is called "Up the Long Ladder". It is not Irish aliens but a group of Federation citizens that happened to be Irish crashed on another planet and were still "VERY" stereotypical Irish (totally Darby O'Gill) since they were separated from the federation for such a long time.
Season 2 Episode 18 "Up the Long Ladder"
Including a fiery Maureen O'Hara-esque template in the body of a very fetching woman...but that accent oof
@@rabbit42 they were caricatures of of O'Hara and Victor McLaglen's characters from The Quiet Man.
Exactly. They weren't "Irish Aliens." They were Irish, albeit removed from Earth for 2 centuries, but only around other Irish for that whole time.
But at least from that episode we learnt that the Enterprise cleans itself!
"I have an irish friend" defense, classic.
I love the bit where Galadrimale says about the producers: "Listen to them: the children of the night. What sweet music they make."
I actually don't hate slow. The extended LOTR is "slow" to start, but I love it because it's a stroll through the shire, getting to know likable characters in a lovely world and understand it. The problem is not that ROP is slow, it's that it goes nowhere and says nothing and robs you of the joy of experiencing the world Tolkien ACTUALLY gave us.
Yep, there are serious problems at EVERY level of this show, except maybe the music even though that too could be better
Yeah that´s the difference. LOTR in both book and movie form is not very fast paced. Don´t get me wrong, there are some great action sequences like Moria, but not on the whole. But the pace lets you breathe. It lets you understand the world you are in. It opens the door to the world, to its people and characters, to the places and to the history. You begin to care for it, because it is something you know. Saving it becomes important. And the same goes for the whole of the legendarium. His prose has the power to suck you in, to make you care. RoP just doesn´t. You don´t care for the people because you don´t know them. You don´t care for the places because you don´t know properly where you are or what is the significance. There is no depth.
Joy? Dafuq is ‘joy’ in this world? (Cut to Galadriel on a horse) MY EYES! Why did I even ask?
I was under the impression that returning to Valinor WAS a metaphor for death. Wasn’t the entire ending of LOTR supposed to be that all the non-humans of Middle Earth were essentially dying off and leaving the world to men? I literally thought that was supposed to be the ending for Frodo, all the elves, etc
No. Having a metaphor fpr death is kinda stupid when death frequently pccurs throughout your story. There are definitely parallels to the Christian afterlife, sure, but I don't think it was meant to be taken as an "elvish" version of death.
Nah dude, you return to bask in eternal bliss with the literal gods
Literal eternal life, if you die before entering you dont get to enjoy the party
@@Birthday888 I always got a vibe of it being "The Undiscovered Country, from whose bourne No traveller returns". Maybe not as clear cut as it is in Hamlet, but similar to dying in the sense that the elves leave the world forever.
The part where Galadriel strips naked, slays Grendel with her bare hands and shouts "I AM BEOWULF!!"...I can't deny it: I ugly wept. Pure brilliance.
Lmao
😅
THIS IS LOTHLORIEN!!!!!!! *Slow motion kicks an Orc into a pit*
@@Lonovavir Top kek!!!!1
Might have been a better show. At least they would have lewd appeal working for it.
“It’s just terrible
I can’t watch this. It’s a multi billion dollar social engineering project, and they skipped out on actually even making it entertaining “
I got an email saying my 1* review above cannot be processed because “It appears your review had inappropriate content.”
This really really needs to be illegal
When Galandriel yelled at Rocky “ Get up you son of a bitch, Mickey loves you” i balled my eyes out.
The more and more I am watching well put together reviews, the more I am feeling validated. The writing is atrocious is this show
The scene where Galadriel looks at the Ice Troll and say’s "I Have Come Here To Chew Bubblegum And Kick Ass. And I'm All Out Of Bubblegum". Love how they nailed Tolkiens dialogue in this show
@Disparu, I'm irish and a huge Tolkien fan, i read everything he wrote more than once and let me just say this, I would rather watch a dog lick itself for an hour than watch the rings of power.
Love the videos.
Irish are the Last descendants of the Celts. Masters of the Iron Age.
Galadrial is so tough, that the stone floated because she told it to.
The part where Guyladriel says "run forest run" and then sits next to a person on a bench and says "life is like a box of chocolates... you never know whatcha gonna git"
It's like getting a beautifully wrapped gift only to find a big turd when you open it.
When galadriel said in the arena "are you not entertained "and the audience said "No!"
Something I noticed in the last two weeks: if I watch something on my Prime Video app I CANNOT give it a review, even if it's something I bought. I've sent in many help tickets about it that have just been closed within hours without any action or response. Neat trick to keep reviews down.
Disparu is an international treasure 👏😎👍 well done Laddie
I love his stuff, especially his OBI WAN KENOBI reviews
He really is! bravo Disparu!
@@kathleenhensley5951 💯🙏. YEP
It works like this. ESG is a very serious high-pressure thing. Film & TV production companies have to tick the right boxes or face obstacles in stock trading across worldwide markets (provided by BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, WTO, etc). Those same production companies also depend on lazy rehashes of IPs with proven track records, or sausage factory releases focused around brands. Put those together & you get the latest remake of X with gender/race swapping, or the next instalment of Y with precisely the same. The 'fan-baiting' part is simply the way this necessity has been transformed into a literal virtue & used in the marketing to deflect inevitable criticism. Namely: "So, you don't like our new & completely unnecessary Little Mermaid remake, with a black actress replacing the lead to please our financial overlords? Well, you're just a bigot" (rinse & repeat for whatever movie or show you happen to care about that's recently been trashed). And please remember, this is only the tip of the iceberg people are reacting to, because it's now visible in big budget output. Think of all the lower budget stuff that was written one way, only to be filmed quite another. This is much bigger than 'woke'. It's really about cultural engineering via financial pressure from above.
And the financial pressure is about Com***sm, so the woke is really just a weapon used to attempt to subvert "expectations" (cultures)
@@matthewmosier8439 Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov warned the US that all the post-structuralist/post-Marxist dregs from the Frankfurt School were being weaponised in academia. Now this is being utilised to serve the CCP because sociopaths like Larry Fink have made financial bets against the west. And that's been allowed to infect everything, from social policy, education, medicine, etc. Like I said, woke is a smokescreen. This is a battle for survival.
I don’t think so when you consider all of the interviews for the shows actors
@@jonathonmenth3901 to get big investor money you have to do most of what the OP said. It's capitalism controlling society. Or corporatism if you prefer.
@@jonathonmenth3901 You mean the people being used as shields to deflect criticism & play to an agenda don't know they're being used to deflect criticism & play to the agenda? Or maybe if they did, seeing there's good money & career breaks in it, they might not just be happy to play along? Thanks Jonathon. I'll have a rethink.
Turns out Halbrand is also a king in waiting like Aragorn. This show rips of so many things it's unbelievable.
It's called "a homage", but also fuck the original trilogy because it's not inclusive, but also look at this warg here remind you of anything? eh? eh? Also Tolkien is outdated and not in touch with the world of today, but also, hey look at this bit of very elaborate old english style pseudo poetic dialogue doesn't it sound a lot like Tolkien?
Honestly with the whole king in waiting I thought Witch King of Angbar first rather than Aragorn
If script leaks are to be believed he is someone a little more Maia
@@chriss3276 Seems like he will be the witch king rather than Sauron after the "king in waiting" reveal.
The most painful one for me so far is the scene with Arondir and the tree that completely ripped of the counsel of Elrond scene where the journey of the fellowship truly begins. They want to inject their own story into Tolkien’s world but also don’t even know the definition of the word creativity so they just repurpose scenes from the original trilogy…
This was fun and hilarious! I was as confused you were with the "double speak" this show seems to highlight. Thanks for putting this all together in such a wonderful way. Thank you :)
One of my favorite LOTR lore channels “Nerd of the Rings” admitted he was flown to London to view the first two episodes. It’s sad to listen to his commentary because it’s practically cut and paste of what other reviewers who were flown out there say. I never thought he would have sold his dignity and integrity for his 7 pieces of silver.
Yeah it’s sad to watch people like nerd of the rings and men of the west go woke so to speak.There’s a few others out there as well that I’ve done the same thing
@@311mikey Not so much going woke as deciding to suck the corporate cöck for a payday.
I doubt that anyone has actually signed up for Prime because of this show. Anyone that uses Amazon gets a free subscription in the beginning and lots of people, myself included didn't realize they had it until they saw the charges on their credit card. As soon as I realized that I was paying for something I never intended to use, not only did I cancel Prime, I vowed to not use Amazon to buy stuff anymore. Anyone watching already has Prime, but they aren't going to grow subscriptions, and I don't see how they are going to make a profit.
They have probably lost subscribers due to this show
@@jypsumfantastic me. Now I know they are insulting Mancunians on purpose.
@@jypsumfantastic Well I, for one, cancelled Prime a few months back because of the direction they were taking RoP so yeah - definitely think they have lost subs
@@jypsumfantastic cancelled too.
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The scene where Galadriel tells Halbrand “You’re the second man who killed me this week, but I’ve got seven lives left”, coughed up a fur ball and left doing 5 backflips had me fist pumping the air
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I got emotional when Morgoth gets captured, his plan gets exposition dumped and he says "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky elves!"
That cats vs rop review is simply brilliant!
I liked it when homeless Magneto got carted about in a wheelbarrow by the Irish and somehow ended up in Aberdeen. I have often traveled from Dublin to Edinburgh by wheelbarrow, so I applaud the bravery of recognising our real world. My wheelbarrow also once fell off a raft in the Pacific so I decided to swim to the UK but then realised it was a bit far so made a space shuttle out of fish and then crashed it in Middle Earth.
LMFAO 😂 😆😆😂
I've been calling out their offensive accents for a while now. For a production that claimed to be SO representative, it contains a hell of a lot of racial stereotypes through culturally appropriated accents performed VERY badly. As a Scot myself it feels pretty offensive that this obnoxious woman who claims to be representing so many people by being "the first" black dwarf or the first female dwarf, is actually doing a horrific accent and portraying a Scottish stereotype. Aside from Gimli, I'm pretty sure all the dwarves on The Hobbit used their own natural accents and the only Scottish ones were played by Scottish actors.
Tolkien based the Dwarves on Jews. This is so terrible
Not only that, but technically, Tookland in the Shire is Scotland. They even invented golf.
@@JohnSmith-is4uu lol okaaay.. you on Twitter I'm assuming? Or perhaps they teach this rubbish at school?
@@JohnSmith-is4uu Heard it was teh Danish, people tend to extrapolate Jewish
@@JohnSmith-is4uu i was gonna write something about being Scottish and watching the show - but your comment is so stupid im out
When Galadrrrrriellll yelled to the Ents, “Run Forest. Run!”
This is both a meme and a pun. Excellent
Amazing how they took something timeless & beloved only to turn it into something nobody wants
Man, you are killing it. 121K views - hardly surprising for this subtle blend of hilarity and on-the-nose points. The Cat's analogy; God, I thought I'd need an ambulance.
I loved the scene where Galadriel was captured in a suspended net and she turned to the camera and said, "Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty orcs!"
Both in 'Obi Wan' and 'Rings of Power' they brought in an actor of color specifically so they could insert a scene where they were overtly racist towards them. I was genuinely appalled. This isn't color blind casting. This is like bringing Stepin Fetchit into 1930s movies so you can have someone say racist things to him for a laugh. These are entirely separate studios. Why are they making such similar products?
Wait did that Obi-Wan show actually come out? Yikes, I didn't even hear about it and I used to (emphasis on used to) be a pretty big fan of Star Wars. Haven't really given a shit since The Force Awakens.
Exactly this 💯… and when you then think about Lindsey Weber‘s premise of showing the ‚real world‘ I was so taken aback I still can‘t understand how anyone can be so blind ?
Long march through institutions has ended succesfully and brainwashed showrunners, screenwriters etc. have entered in workforce. Also esg score.
Post modernist identity politics, that's why.
Because Lindsey Weber is a very miserable woman living in a very miserable world, and she just have to share it with you. By shitting on something you love.
"Audience reviews are worthless"? They're the only ones worth considering. A shows viewership is no indication of how good it is or if it's success will endure.
There's never been a more useless person than a "professional" critic. Those who can't, critique. Such a disgusting display of arrogance.
Lol I couldn't agree more. Professional critic is low
The STTNG episode was Up the Long Ladder. The intent of the writer was to show how "cross-breeding" was "necessary" to "improve" peoples. The Irish were trapped by their "irishness" in a child-like peasant existence. Their society could not improve itself in isolation.
The super-advanced "non-irish" civilization in the episode was small in number, uninterested in biological reproduction and suffering from genetic decay.
Being "moral" people, the entire crew of the enterprise refused to share any of their genetic material with the non-irish civilization. They basically told them that they either had to breed with the space irish or just die out.
The story is incredibly insulting and horrible on almost every level. The message was basically that the only way to "improve" Irish Catholics was inter-marriage with Irish Protestants. And the only way to preserve Irish Protestant culture was to merge it into Irish catholocism.
Almost like they just hate Christianity, hmm so weird.
So literally Hollywood is telling me that you can be racist to Scottish, Irish and English people.
"From a certain point of view, an elf may be a Jellicle cat" has "from my point of view, the Jedi are evil" energy, and I'm dying. XD
The part where Galadriel grabs a frost troll and says, "Do you know how many pounds of pressure it takes to break a wrist?" was inspiring. One of the best shows ever made.
HAHAHAHAH
No no no, the part where she held a knife to Elendil and threatened to fillet him for mansplaining was better.
the part where Galadriel realizes she is the One and finally destroys Elrond....gets me every time😭
Wrong Elrond.
Best scene yet is when all the Elves start singing “jellicle, jellicle” as Galadriel rides a pony.
I know I shouldn't give the show any of my time but I just have to watch it now. It is like watching an unintentional comedy. When I see the parts of the episode that are going to be roasted by everyone I just start laughing. Like the dirty harfeet's being followed around by a mute mage and Galadriel with her cringe grin leave me laughing till my face hurts.
The scene where Galadriel's brother, Guyadrien, said "According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible." and Galadriel killed Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman and Voldemort with one swing of the Sting was truly breathtaking
The Star Trek the next generation episode referenced with the “Irish aliens” was the first season’s Up the Long Ladder. It was the worst episode ever, and that’s saying a lot considering how mind numbingly terrible season one was. It was full of Irish stereotypes.
It wasn't just full of stereotypes. The message was basically that a civilization of exclusively Irish people could not advance. That they needed to be mixed genetically with a more advanced but less fertile people for any social evolution to occur.
Well to be fair...
I don't know, shades of grey and code of honour are pretty terrible.
@@30noir Careful mate. Sarcasm or not it doesn't come across well :S
second season, even worse
I don't know if I'd call it the worst episode (not that it isn't bad) of even that season though, when you compare anything to "Shades of Gray" (IMO easily the worst episode of any pre-Kurtzman trek, including "Threshold")
"It's aoiright, some of me best mates are Irish!"- the showrunners probably
I bet some of their best mates are black too ...
Was anyone else as moved to tears as I was during the scene where Grrrladriel is cruising around in the General Lee with Lenny Harfoot and she's telling him about how back in Valinor a Quarter Pounder is called a Royale With Cheese?
Elrond: It's the metric system 'Ladriel!
I think I haven't laughed so hard since "American Pie I", when I was in highschool! 🤣🤣
So... Is the free advertising that Amazon is receiving (since fanbaiting to get a reaction) outweighing the impact of the negative sentiment they've managed to create?
Are the actors and actresses involved aware that they've been set up and thrown to the wolves to generate free advertising?
No and no :)
Useful idiots are always that.
If it was, they wouldn't need to play defence like this.
I doubt they do that level of psychoanalysis while on their knees blowing the producer to get cast. Maybe afterwards.
No. The excitement is all around "house of the dragon" now in this space. Its clearly the hands-down winner. Its what people are watching and talking about. Its not my thing personally, but that is the show where the interest is.
That amazon isn't releasing more and newer viewership numbers suggests that they have a real problem with this show. They have not only produce a bad show, but they have also seriously wounded the entire lord of the rings franchise.
RoP: The representation is so you can see yourself!
The Irish: * *squints angrily* *
RoP: Not you tho, really, not you... * *nervous laugh* *
At this point I am enjoying my re read of the Tolkien books and will never waste my life watching ROP. By the way Tolkien’s books have been translated into 38 languages. Guess that’s still not accessible enough according to people connected to ROP.
I don't think the showrunners actually know that Hobbits are a branch of humans. I think they think they are leprechauns or something.
When Galadriel said "Gabagool? Ova 'eeere" whilst tapping the table I just about lost it. Vince Gilligan has once again outdone himself
My favourite part was when Galadriel faced the Emperor and said, “You failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, just like my father.”
"...as my father before me."
Yes!
*fist pump*
Such an emotionally moving scene when Norry throws the Emperor down the shaft!
@@Matt42MSG Oh, shit you’re right! Sorry, been a few years.
@@Matt42MSG even worse, we both messed it up. It’s “I’m a Jedi, like my father before me.”
My girl Galadriel was always rubbish at movie lore too.
@@vskane Oh well, the bit where Galadriel says "I have to save you!" and Sauron tells her "You already have, Galadriel... you already have." made the whole rest of the show just fly right out of my head. Tolkien wouldn't have believed his eyes or ears.
OMG that scene in episode 8 had me on my knees sobbing in pure ecstasy. My entire family had to calm me down. That moment when Guy-chad-riel, Dis-a-nuts and their all female and multiracial army rubbed period blood across their faces and charged into battle screaming "Pussy Power". It was very extremely stunning and brave. In that singular moment, I felt true justice and representation had been achieved for all time to come.
That truly was a scene of scenes. My jaw dropped to the floor.
The simple fact is, they have been soundly beaten. They failed the Tolkien estate, they failed the core fans of Tolkiens works, they failed their cast members by having them peddle this “racist” nonsense in contrary to the actual criticisms, they failed the overlords of prime to become a front runner studio of films and shows.
They are beaten, and they feel it. The show is DOA.
A dog can bark at the moon, but can't bring it down.
Pure gold
Someone calling ROP a “slow burn” doesn’t understand what that term means or how/when to use it. Breaking Bad was a slow burn, Broadchurch, The Killing, True Detective, Luther, Mindhunter… it’s usually a “whodunnit” which, if this writer thinks ROP is one, they need to choose a new profession.
A slow burn generally implies an explosive finish. Tracking Sauron was the wrong move. Wrong story to write. But they did this so Galadriel can be the "woman in the workplace who was told she's wrong but turned out to be right in the end" kind of character.
It's a "slow burn" in the way that weird itch turns into a burning sensation after an ill advised night with a bar slag.
I loved it when Sauron said: "Boys have a penis and Girls have a Vaginia"...
Sauron. The cis normative dark lord.