'The Last Dance' elevated MJ as a player but devalued him as a teammate - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- After the finale of Michael Jordan's documentary 'The Last Dance,' the question has been raised if the doc has improved or hurt MJ's reputation. Hear why Shannon Sharpe believes that the documentary has elevated Jordan's status as a player, but devalued him as a teammate.
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Did this behind-the-scenes look help or hurt Michael Jordan's legacy?
Helped
How can a player, who retired 20 years ago, have his legacy questioned today? Lol
Didnt really change anything, anyone who knew the game of basketball already knew Jordan's resume and what he was about. IMO it did nothing but expose the double standards everyone else gets held to.
Helped solidify him as the GOAT
Help
The main thing I got out of this documentary is Jordan is really charismatic and hilarious
“Make the free throw ho” 😂
Christopher Nelson “Hey, try not to be dog food tonight ,dog” killed me 😂
And a Bully*
I thought I was the only one...lol
It's an Aquarius thing 😌👌
Michael Jordan: I want the Bulls to be respected as an organization just like the Lakers, Celtics and he did that!
People respect Jordan as a player but I don't think they hold the bulls in the same regard as the Lakers and Celtics. The success of the bulls is solely reliant upon Jordan.
@@AggravatedMan365 They do for those teams.
Forget the bulls, the Spurs are in that conversation for sure. Consistency is How you get into the conversation. The spurs define that
The Thunder as a less than 15 year old organization, is more respected than the bulls.
Jalil Johnson So the Spurs in the conversation but not the Bulls? Ok 😂
This doc elevated every part of Jordan’s legacy which was already at Goat Status
Amen
100% correct
MJ will not be included in that title in the argument (bcoz clearly he was not yet.. hahaha) if not with the help from his devalued teammates. imaging the bulls with jordan without his teammates! will he be included included in that title argument? MJ did not single handedly the bulls, clearly,
A bunch of his teammates literally said they realised why he did what he did and they thanked him for not only pushing them, but giving them a opportunity to win at the highest level
@Mind of the North Star Lies, truth twisting, misleading narrative.
@Mind of the North Star lol awesome dude I had to read that twice!... SAVAGE!!
Mind of the North Star 😅
Mind of the North Star Lmao. Wasn’t expecting this comment. 😭
The media is spinning this against MJ just as much as MJ fans are enjoying this
Don't gloss over the fact that Michael Jordan MADE Nike.
He made Nike AND the nba.. he’s the one and only reason why the nba is where it is today
For Lyfe. Life. !!--!--!!!!!
Facts😶
Facts. Jordan is the reason LeBron gets to be LeBron.
@@yomammasboo713 Jordan benefitted from Showtime
What?! his teammates all said they understood Jordan’s tactics
Dont mind LeShannon. Just one of the many Bronsexuals posing as journalist who's salary is mostly funded by the LeBron James Foundation under the table.
Facts..At the moment they probably hated it but They all admitted in the long run, it was worth it.
@Jalen Rose Skip was put on before Le3-6 was even born, Bronsexual. He's more successful and self made than any of you 3-6 jock strap sniffers.
@Jalen Rose if it wasn't for Skip, I'd still be a blind witness rooting for more talented losers rather than less talented winners.
I value mental strength in athletes way more now because of Skip.
Yo Mammas Boo that’s the whole media praising or bashing him either way they gettn paid to talk bout him
Documentary helped youngsters who didnt witness or educated themselves about olders era of basketball, and also others to see what degrees of difficulty Jordan and the Bulls were facing.
I Agree in a certain Sense... But if We want to talk about the Real Old Era of Basketball, go back to the 60s - the Days of Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, the Big O, Oscar Robertson, Etc the People that grew up on Jordan didn't get to watch those Guys Play... Everybody has their own Era
@@St-oi2cz What do you mean "Real"
St 2593 you’re right most of us MJ fans didn’t watch the real old school. That’s why i’ve been watching 80’s finals and allstar games during quarantine. It’s awesome because its fast like todays game more than the 90’s but more physical.
Hater!!
Let me guess, shannon is saying lebron is better than MJ. 🤣🤣
LOL Shannon never wanna give Jordan credit
Jordan was a superstar a salvage and a dog LEBRON need some dog in him 🤷🏽♂️ Kobe was a killer to
The goat debate is stupid they never played on the same court with each other
Cuxx he is Jordan sure aint better ghen lebron
TJ Martin lebron is 1-7 in clutch plays of the finals
Remember when Kobe told Lebron "passing your teammates the ball isnt the only way to make your teammates better" and the media crucified him for passing on the knowledge he got from MJ. Its really shedding light on that advice. It doesnt matter how much you pass your teammates the ball if they're not mentally tough and ready for big moments they'll play bad.
I also like how Lebron fans bring up MJ punched little Steve Kerr and try to paint him as a bully but never bring up he punched Will Purdue a 7'1 Center as well.
Steve Kerr punched MJ first too, they never bring that up. What Lebron does is stat pad. When they lose he says it’s because “they” didn’t make their shots.
Being 7’1 doesn’t make you tough
Master Architect no but ever heard pick on someone your own size?
The show is what brought it up, not Lebron fans. And the show didn't talk about the Purdue incident.
Blame it on the show for editing everything to perfection for MJ to look even better than he really was.
Still wonder why MJ never tried it with Rodman, when it was obvious Rodman was uncontrollable.
Let's be real, Kobe Bryant was the same as Jordan behind the scenes with his teammates. He was a drill sargent and that's why he was a winner. LeBron doesn't have the energy and ruthlessness on the journey to success that Jordan and Kobe had. Jordan held everyone to the same standard as himself, perfection. Call it bullying or just call it plain starving to become a champion.
"We all needed Michael to be the bad guy because we were all mentality soft"
Scottie Pippen
Jordan was mentally weak too
@@muhammedhussain324 TROLL ALERT DONT FEED!
So Cool1 Nah he’s talking about the Pippen who later on after than said MJ is better and it’s not even close. Calm down kid.
@So Cool1 you mean the same Pippen who QUIT on the Bulls in the 1994 series against the Knicks?! LMAO
@@brianchua4240 And said he would do it again.
How did it devalue him as a teammate? His actual teammates said he was a great teammate and that they needed him to be that way to elevate them and it was magnified when he left and Scottie failed when he tried to fill the leaders shoes
trevion sewell You a damn liar
That’s the media for you
Mj teammate sounded weak and needy.
Shannon you are being ridiculous. Quit taking all of this out of context. His own teammates appreciated his leadership and even said it themselves.
What else would they say? They’d be out like Isaiah
@@TrueProphit, out of what? None of them owe their careers after they retired from basketball to Jordan, as they do not work for him. What thing of value would they be excluded from with regards to statements made about MJ?
@teinmaster, I suppose these full grown professional aheletic men had low self esteem although they made it and played in the NBA...
@@alezflores Yup, even the training and nutrition/wizards part of the convo he takes it way left. It's like dude, they're talking about a prime MJ. I don't know what he's not getting about that. SMH
shannon is doing his job in being the lebron guy. ESPN and the NBA are happy.
Devalued him as a teammate??? They literally had most of his teammates talk about how great of a teammate he was.😂😂😂
you’re exactly right. they “had” his teammates say that or they wouldve cut them out the documentary like his 1st wife was 😂😂💀 Kerr said himself how the team felt Jordan was a bully lmfaooo yall Jordan groupies are hilarious
@@JaeThaGemini
Yeah, after they got 6 championships?! LMAO It's like how when we are kids with strict parents, we think they're the meanest until we grow to be successful due to their guidance, and the discipline they instilled in us, and only then we understand. Let me find out you'd join a losers team that won't prepare you for war just because their team culture is softer! That's nothing compared to the military. Y'all aren't cut in the same clothes! So soft!
@@ntwalipat2 Facts. And after the last dance Kerr and the rest signed the biggest contracts of their careers with other teams due to playing with MJ. some commentators only quote partial remarks from those players like Kerr who we know said a whole lot more about MJ and the respect he has for him and it made him a better player and coach.
harold thomas
Exactly! They need to watch the interviews of the players that were conducted after “The Last Dance” docu-series was released. There are lengthy interviews of Scott Burrell, Will Perdue, Steve Kerr & many more expressing their gratitude to have played with Michael!
In a much softer culture, he reminded us of what it takes to win! Watch how many kids are about to be inspired by this documentary!
These two will be debating MJ vs Lebron for the rest of their life. However, MJ does not consider LJ his threat. In MJ's mind, his treat passed away early this year.
A guy (an imitation) with lesser numbers is not nor would ever be a threat. They don't debate MJ v Kobe.
All I know is I couldn't miss a game When Jordan was on TV.
I don’t think he was a bad teammate, it just showed how ‘tough love’ can bring out the best in your teammates when done the right way
That’s how bullies justify their behaviour lmaoo
Muhammed Hussain behaviour? Lmao
Muhammed Hussain 😂😂😂 rightt
The question is, was it the right way?
Calling anyone bit*ch or H*e,,,isn’t tough love nor the RIGHT way.
During the Doc MJ teammates realized why he had to show "tough love" to them and they thanked him for giving them opportunities to win
I used to respect Shannon...Mike must’ve dissed him somewhere back in the day.
He always speaks highly of MJ you about to not like a man because of his opinion on a player you do not know personally 💀
mike probably slept with his wife
His love for lebron is the goat in his mind.. period.. not even jordan could surpass lebron in shannon’s mind
This doc is the tombstone of all the LBJ goat arguments...RIP
As someone who thought it was up for debate before I saw this (I'm only 20, never saw MJ play) you're right. Lebrons a great, and I do mean GREAT player but MJ is the goat. Period.
@@goated6146 LBJ is an absolutely fantastic player my friend. But there never was a debate - just some media trying stuff for ratings. Don't trust talk shows or comments. Go in u-tube and watch some games. All will be revealed to you I believe.
It’s still a debate tho but you guys are right MJ was amazing. Your opinion it’s cool
@@12kaka03 MJ won twice as many in less years with 0 losses in the finals without teaming up with the 2 other best players in the conference...so..
The reason companies advertise is so that you run and buy their product. You just saw a 10 hour MJ advert that focussed on his success. No one nit picked his failures in the 80s the way every LBJ game is analysed. The fact that without sport and even with this documentary, every sports network still talks about LBJ everyday shows that there is something there. In your heart you know you are seeing something different. And I did watch MJ
I love hearing Shannon speak on football, but damn. MJ had to have done him wrong once in the past to garner this hate.
The Tar Heels whipped Savannah State in a November cupcake game?
How is this Hate???
And yet has a room full of Jordans.
@@thomash1268 SO TRUE!
@@UnexpectedWonder jordan fans are delusional
Self proclaimed goats don't move a team to another to another team just to make the finals
RebelDaSoundz oh he was suppose to stay on the same team n keep losing lol n dwade set up that heat team lol
G C if Phil Jackson and pippen hadn’t gone to the bulls would Jordan have any rings ?
G C and you know this based on what evidence ?
G C individual achievements that have no correlation to championships
G C these words tell me nothing . Look at the hard facts . What did Jordan do before pippen and. Jackson arrived ? Zero playoff series wins
At least MJ shows you exactly who he is. Bron tweets cartoon fists and literally trades his whole team behind their backs.
Foh bum
Come on...lebron does more than that. What about taco Tuesdays?🥴🥴🥴
Social media wasn’t around back then.
Facts. LeBron isn’t man enough to talk to them face to face like a man.
Yea - but you have to give credit to his ‘playoff mode’, that thing is lethal once it’s turned on......
Lmao LeShannon so shook that all these mainstream outlets are finally putting basketball history in its proper context. Which obviously is not good for the 3-6 King.
When LeBron leave teams their a lottery team next year when Jordan leave there one shot away form getting back to the finals 😁 impacted
Hes definitely. Not #2 Kolby better. Kd better. Kawi better.Majic. better.
@@AbstractMedia24 LeBron is a 🐷 Piggy Back Rider.
Because the bulls had 3 Hall Of Famers and 2 other all stars. Going against teams wit one hall of famer or two at the most
@@jazztravis6817 lol that's funny
There will NEVER EVER be another MJ END OF STORY!!!
There will never be any other star who competed at the highest level either.MJ is not God...he was just great in his era.The best era of basketball is happening now.
Big facts 💯
Michael suck
Just imagine for a minute. The player yall hate the most will have most of the nba records, and will be the nba leading scorer . And yall idiots to dumb to just watch one of the greatest players ever continue to dominate the game even in his 17th season
N there won’t b another Lebron smh or Kobe.
Shay is wrong
You can't elevate him as a player, since he is accepted as The GOAT
And you can't diminish him as a teammate, since he won The Finals every time he played in it
Woke AF lmaooo
Woke AF in your mind only
What? Makes no sense. Lmfaoooo
I like how Shannon conviently left out the part where Jordans teammates said they understood why Jordan was the way he was. If Jordan was such a bad teammate or bully why didnt any of them ask to be traded🤔
You have to remember though LBJ groupies like Shannon gloss over facts and create their own narrative to fit their argument.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx the funny thing is Lebron is perceived as this wonderful leader but who on his team asked for a trade🤔 oh yea Kyrie Irving 🤣
Alexx Allert
For real and MJ has constantly given his teammates credit especially to Pippen. Yet LBJ is out here thinking he’s the goat after winning the finals in 2016 bc he felt ecstatic.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx 2 more finals losses and he will equal the record for most losses in the finals so I really dont get how he gets in this GOAT conversation.
MJ even admitted to stepping over the line. After practice he rang Kerr to apologize but Kerr was like its ok man. And MJ even said that he respected Kerr for stepping up for himself. We don't see Shannon talk about that part of the documentary.
Shannon you the only one devaluing Jordan. Stop. You ain't never gonna win.
He is a hater of jordan
MJ GGGGGOOOOAAAAATTT
💯
Mj wouldn't go 6-0 in LeBron's era
@@speedylucero93 lebron wouldn’t go 6-0 in jordan on era, so what’s your point ?
@@brentt8940 he got a higher chance of going 6-0 in Jordan era than mj bouncing around teams in LeBron era and goin 4-6, Jordans best opponent was Clyde drexler or Hakeem olajuwon, LeBron facing Kobe, Durant, Steph, harden, Giannis, Duncan, melo, mcgrady, Iverson, Garnett, Yao Ming, Luka, dame, jokic, Embiid, arenas, DRose, cp3, etc etc that's my point
@@speedylucero93 you havnt answered my question. Would lebron go 6-0 in jordan era ? I know Jordan not going 6-0 In today’s
Devalued him as a teammate? Smokin too many milds bro
Hahahahahhaa
LeBron is paying Uncle Shay well for this energy 😏
Il love Lebron but MJ is THE god of our sports Amen
He is right tho... I love jordan but when it comes to him you worshipers dont even have common sense
@Jermaine Belton 😂😂😂 Gotta be...
@Jermaine Belton You all Jordan worshipers and dont even realize it... Lebron and Jordan came up short
@@WarAgeTVJordan 6 rings in 13 years with the bulls
Lebron 4 rings in 21 years lol
Shannon is just salty that this documentary elevated the goat thingy on Jordan. On the past few weeks he has just whined and whined about it try to deminish MJ. Stop with the crying man
Exactly. Although I wouldn't mind other sports documentaries similar being released in the future about other all time greats like wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West and etc just so the younger generation can know how great they were as well
I'm a Cowboys fan so I'm not always fond of shannon. But, what did he say that was false in this segment?
@@kridicalxsi1177 i don't think that i stated in any part of my comment the Word "false" or "lying" :O . I expressed my opinión about his behaviour ever since The last dance started. Over the years that i have watched undisputed he makes good commentary and stuff, but every time the discussion MJ vs LBJ comes out he takes LBJ side, nothing wrong with that but it does makes his argument a Little bs. but again, i don't recall typing "False" nor "lie" so try and read again (: , good day friend!
@@franciscohafemann8626 Weird you went on a rant and kept saying "lie." I simply asked what he said that was "false"that made you "salty" enough to type multiple paragraphs at this point. Take care bro.
@@kridicalxsi1177 well, u said "did he say something false?" And i replied. Sure, i may have typed quite the long paragraph but i made my point clear. ✌
Jordan's greatness transcends stats, accolades, and championships. His impact globally and economically during a time where the world was not so connected cannot be matched.
I don't think I'll understand how grown athletes that play at the pinnacle of their sport could be bullied.
Yes, a grown man can bully a grown man . If a man needs a Job then he can be bullied.
I agree. I can see a coach or GM pulling that but, if you my team mate that's what you are. Part of the team, not the coach or anything else. You get one attempt at the bully moment. The other starters could have played for any other team so, why they responded the way they did is baffling..
@@johnthebaptist9795 if a man can be bullied cause he needs a job means he's a boy.. Men do what they want boys do what they can... No man should never let another man belittle him no matter the level of desperation.
Uhh... How don't you understand this?? Anyone can be bullied, it doesn't matter if you're a "grown man" or not.
I'm sure most of those players knew if they didn't bow down to Jordan he could have them replaced in a heartbeat.
Robert Enke killed him self when he was regarded as one of if not the best Goalkeeper in German. Just because you succeed in sport doesn't make you mentally heathy. MJ clearly didn't care for the mental health of his team mates. MJ expects he can go around say what he will about other players/people but when he gets criticised he gets offended.
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Book it
HOW DARE YOU?
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devalues him? what he supposed to do cuddle them like lebron and loses multiple finals ?
@Jalen Rose mj said it himself he didnt tell his teammates to do anything he couldnt do himself.
Lol lost multiple 1st round tho
dadillonful hater
@Jalen Rose no Jordan teammate was swept in the playoffs with him.
Lebron who makes his teammates look like losers every year with his cowardice, passive aggressiveness and choking big games.
@@dadillonful Lebron lost multiple playoff series also, did not make it to the playoffs for his first two years and last year if you remember well, which i believe you don't.
Michael Jordan the best ever.🌏🌍🌎
U stupid
Skip's right here. There's bullying and there's tough love. Bullying is to tear you down and leave you busted. Tough love is to build you up and make you stronger. A bully will laugh at you and try to hurt you. Family (teammates) will bust your chops but at the end of the day they're going to take care of you.
So Shannon said we should take Kerrs word cause he was there but when people who played with or coached LeBron speak on him negatively we aren't supposed to take their word for it lol
As someone who watched basketball, was aware an knew of MJ, it showed me something my young mind at the time couldn't have understood. And that is his winning mentality, it was incredible.
Players like pogba have that mentality
MJ didnt have to, so he didnt - AND HE STILL WON
Lebron didn't but could have - BUT STILL LOSES
That's the difference.
Mann Shannon trying so hard .. 😂😂😂🤷🏾♂️
Ain't he though, & why!
Lol I love when Shannon just destroys skip on the show ! haha
Michael Air Jordan is a better passer than "The Choke". I have never seen a pass that was so great by "The Choke". Magic passed the ball in mesmerizing ways.
I love Shannon but he just doesn’t understand the value and difficulty of certain skills in basketball. The only thing I can understand arguing about the poll is saying mj was a better passer. I can’t say Lebron is a better passer just more willing so I feel they’re equally skilled at it Lebron is just more willing to pass so we see spectacular passes more often from Lebron but if you look at mis passing it’s top level
LeBron is a better passer my friend.. MJ is a better scorer
I can agree LeBron is a more willing passer, but do you guys remember in the 1988-89 season when for 10 out of11 games The Black Messiah had a triple double and had seven straight games with a triple double.
Shannon... Unc... As a SB winner he should know more than anyone what its like to be around WINNERS with CHAMPIONSHIP MENTALITIES. The bully narrative is something I can't buy into. I believe Jordan would take me to the next level, Lebron would trade me.
I agree. I would rather have a teammate that would help me get mentally stronger than a teammate that would trade me behind my back.
Does Shannon realize that MJ played PG? He avg. a triple double during that time period? I mean this is kind of sad because MJ's passing ability was just as elite as anyone in NBA's history. It's just sad that some reporters don't do their due diligence about a lot of these players and their abilities. If a coach like Phil comes in after you started to run PG and says MJ we need the ball in your hands less and we want to maximize on your scoring ability and defense ability so we can win more (not saying he would've won playing like LBJ!!! He took them to the Eastern conference finals, remember Scottie had a headache), then it changes the stats and perception of the player. MJ was an elite passer just like LBJ. Just sad that people don't break down film our know the game to the level to properly speak on players skill sets or stats, etc... Again I worked in the game so I get it, but still...
He's no where near bron when it comes to passing, just stop it.
@@jimmyb4361 Wrong. Take a look at Jordan's playoff assist averages up to age 32 with LeBron's at age 31, and Jordan's compare very favorably even with the presence of the triangle offense for most of those playoff games.
Jordan, 1985 - 1995 Playoffs
6.5 apg to 3.4 TOpg
LeBron, 2006 - 2016 Playoffs
6.8 apg to 3.5 TOpg
MJ played the last 24 games of the 1989 season as a point guard and had 12 triple-doubles, averaging 30.4 points, 9.2 rebounds, 10.7 assists & 2.4 steals per game.
@@scoop2448 Exactly, thank you sir. Most people don't know this bit of information so I am glad we can share. Phil/Tex implemented a system that took away from Jordan's abilities believe it or not. His numbers under another coach would've been out of this world, we wouldn't even be discussing this. I would also like to note that without that system I truly believe he wouldn't have won 6 chips, but you have to give a little to win, MJ gave up a lot of himself and his talents to win..
@@jimmyb4361 All LeBron does is inflate his stats by playing the "facilitator" where in fact it wasn't really that effective. 3-6 record is all I'm saying. He doesn't even play defense anymore just so he could focus on the offensive end. No difference than Westbrook stat-padding.
Shannon you are my favorite football player ever- the trash talking & production are undeniable. What photos LeBron got on you? It's not close between MJ & LJ.
The rings he won for his teammates would disagree with that
Tay Roc he disrespected his teammates if ur respect is less than a ring more power to u
Horace Grant would
Lmaooo he did not win those rings by himself
He jus saying if Mike not playing no rings rings simple but still would be playoff team
Bill Russell 10 rings!! TRUE G.O.A.T. if we're considering rings, how about Robert Horry?
Imagine if we got to see what MJ cut out of the doc, the stuff he absolutely didnt want us to see...
Like that he got his own dad killed by owing gambling debts to criminals who wanted to send him a message.
Ry debts? Are you dumb? He could buy your whole neighborhood 10x and still have more money than most athletes lol
@@esimms5101 His dad was shot up and the car he was in was smashed up. It was not a robbery. Whoever did it was sending a message. I agree with you that Jordan had the money but rich ppl often drag their heels when its time to pay up.
Ry stay off the conspiracy koolaid. I have better things to do with my energy than spread unproven theories about someone’s death.
@@esimms5101 You obviously don't know the facts. Jordan said himself in this doc that he owed millions. Go back to watching disney movies kid, you cant handle real life
"pushoff" on game 6 '98 finals
reggie miller pushed off in g4 of '98 ecf to get free and knock down GW
rules were just diff in diff era
Mac 26 Michael said he didn’t push , Bob Acosta’s said it wasn’t a push if you look at Bryon Russell his forward motion had him going and he couldn’t stop on the dime like MJ could, because he didn’t know MJ was going to elevate at that point
@@goodydagreat747 agree
Goody Da Great lol i don’t think I believe that. U knew he was gonna elevate. And he did push up rather a little bit or not u clearly see his hand.
@@jamesdawny1855 he was already sliding it wasn't a push off.
James Dawny yes you do see his hand and yes he did know at one point or another he was going to elevate but he didn’t know if he was going to the basket or pulling up for a jump shot as he did. Byron Russell’s forward motion, and anticipation of beating MJ to a spot then MJ sudden stop and elevation made it seem like he pushed off. It’s amazing if you watch that game Bryon Russell never complained to the referee he was pushed and till this day has never come forward and said he pushed me away on the last shot. I haven’t heard it at least, have you
The Last Dance elevated Shannon as a delusional clown and devalued him as an objective journalist..
He's not a journalist tho. He's a tv personality giving his opinion like the rest of us
@@Cofitube94 they are terrible opinions
@@christophergraves3113 that's your opinion
Hes bein objective witout disrespectn hiz gr8ness....da same way skip iz hypocritical wen he iz defendn TB or Dakker.....
Christopher Graves 🤣🤣🤣 terrible opinions....that’s funny😂😂😂
What Skip know about the Verzuz battles(?!) 🤣😂
Shannon a clown at this point.
Jordan always over LeBron
Are u stupid???
ALWAYS
MJ at 38 averaged 25/6/5 and was leading a 19 win Wizards team to the playoffs before his knee injury in Feb 2002.
He didn't need the Last Dance...he is, was and for a verrrry loooong time remain the GOAT! Last Dance was a only a refresher for folks like LeShannon.
How many players has Lebron traded so far? Wow that is a successfull type of leadership.
The results are clear.
Also Cook came up yesterday and said Lebron is the clown of the Lakers. Greatest of all time status rofl.
Shannon, is my favorite sports analyst.
These two are an amazing combo. Their difference in perspectives. I love it!
His teammates loved him and they are all immortalized because of him.
the GOAT conversation is OVER !
sorry LBJ 😅
It was NEVER a debate. Kareem-Abdul Jabbar is the 🐐
@@epicgodlux4228 For me I have no problem with Kareem being the goat. I watched him from high school, attended his games at UCLA from his freshman year, and throughout his pro career and if you consider all, he is the Goat. But if looking at just a professional career it's difficult for me to not say MJ. He not only carried the Bulls out of obscurity and also on his back as well as the entire NBA, made it global, and changed the entire culture, that even as great as Kareem was as a pro did not do that. But Kareem as the goat I have no issue with at all.
Suten Tutanhkhaten 🤣
I just say this what make LBJ Different is that he took every team he been on to the at least playoffs
MJ did played for the wizards
I wonder how much lbj is paying shannon for defending him all the time.
Y are you talking about LBJ when the documentary is about Jordan.
@Kenneth Davis you should ask Shannon that
@@icetray2727 he speaking on LBJ because Jordan fans keep bringing up LBJ name
@@johnthebaptist9795 exactly these MJ fans are absolutely crazy
“Why I must hear it now” lol 😂
“Why didn’t that style work in Washington?” He was almost FORTY! And he still dropped 20 a game
Shannon get your facts straight. Check the team Wizards had and their record before MJ joined them. Had he not been injured they would have made it to the playoffs.
The guy was averaging 22 at 39 and was the best player on the floor wtf are you talking about?
Yep 2001 Wizards were a 19-win team the year before, but well on track to make the playoffs with Jordan. Before his knee injury he avged 25/6/5.
Shannon will try to nitpick, shame, exaggerate anything he'll see and take the littlest comment out of context like what Kerr said at the end.. bro that's what you got from all that? It's just so sad and desperate
Right?! People these days are such pussys nowadays These kids wouldn’t last a day back then. Smh
@@user-wq6oh5ss3j do u realize shay was around during my era right. What are you talking about.
good to see the comments of those who understand the "bullying" that went on in chicago. michael jordan demanded excellence from himself and everyone around him.
All I see from watching the docu is he's the perfect teammate anyone can ask for. MJ doesn't care if you're a superstar or not as long as you do the work, you will get his respect. The fact that Rodman, Kerr, Phil, and Pippen talks so much value and respect about MJ as a teammate says everything we need to know about their real relationships.
Scott Burrell - MJ makes me a better player
WTF is Leshannon talking about
MJ - Raised by both parents = Alpha
LeBrick - Raised by a single mother = Beta/Soft
How is he a beta and soft? Is there a certain amount of rings, MVPs, historical measures, etc... That one must achieve before they are considered GREAT? Tell me what the metrics are, because, yeah...
@Alpha Maximus so tell me why all the young players gravitate to him. Tell me why a lot of them think he's the greatest, and talk about him as such. No teammate has ever said anything about LeBron being anything but a brother, mentor, etc... You must be talking about someone else named LeBron.
Shape brought up Washington 😂😂😂
When Steve Kerr called Michael a bully, I knew Shannon was gonna be all over that...😂😂😂
Well said skip!!
Couldn’t have said it better!!! FACTS!!
Here 30 seconds in. I can't wait for SKIP I WAS HERE BAYLESS
Drip Bayless has so much drip, even his armpits are drippin!! Thats tuff!!!
Shannon seem to be forgetting that Michael took 3 years off before he returned to Washington to average 23 points per game.
And tht was at 40 too..
Lebum been to the Finals 10 times and only won 3 thanks to D Wade Ray Allen And the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead because Draymond Green got suspended
Went to the finals 9 times know ur facts. And he won 3 because he was the best player on the team dwade and Allen helped bron in those finals but they didn't win it for him. And Draymond played games 1 2 3 4 was suspended game 5 and played 6 and 7 they had opportunities didn't capitalize on it that's not brons or anyones fault that's Draymonds so blame him if u mad.
Lebron traded his whole team just to get ad so the lakers can be good again dude not the goat
And it isn't the first time he's done it
Jalen Rose or it means that he doesn’t make every team a contender.
Why is it that you all have no problem with a suit making moves, but a player can't get his suits to make moves, without it being different, somehow?
@@kdubbss0583 he makes every team a contender, lmao. The last time you saw a team he was on, not be, was when he suffered his first really good injury. Oh, and the whole team seemed to be injured.
Mj is the best player ive heard about Kobe and Lenron are the best players I've seen
Seen dude RUclips MJ greatest fake passes I didn't even say greatest layups or dunks 😂😂😂😂😂 dude Jordan and KoBe are the best NBA basketball players replays period T Mac wasn't bad either TMac replays or actually better than LeBron 😂😂😂😂😂
And Shannon, Mike was damn near 40 in Washington. Seriously, you comparing that Mike vs Air Jordan against lebron??? Please....
Eric Armstrong LeShayshay stay reaching for anything he can to devalue MJ greatness.
STOP SLEEPING ON MJ'S PG SKILLS.
DA 🐐 period
Agreed, but he is no where near these other pg that's been in the game.
Well now that the documentary is over I hope skip will finally stop with Michael Jeffrey Jordan/ I was there etc....
Michael Jordan was the Teammate we all need in our teams, the one that brings War to practice and Leads you in the real battlefield.
I love how Shannon opens the video about whether this documentary made Jordan better in the eye of the public, then Skip goes to on full offence about how this showed what a great leader MJ was and why he is the greatest player ever.
Shanons response “well No way is MJ a better passer then LeBron” like that attribute really matters in this argument 😂
L36RON is overrated.
No he is not
Over Hyped yes
But not overrated
Unc Shay Shay we love you, no need to scream! But MJ the GOAT of the GOATs... So sorry that the Documentary put your argument to bed! 😂
Shannon finally said it "skip....skip....you wasn't there,you dont know!!!!!!!"
L3-6ron = Class Clown......
Man GTFOH with the BS
Michael Jordan being a bully is not what bothers me most. It’s that he knows no one is allowed to punch him in the face. Cuz if they do, their is career is over.
Bille Exactly, thank you.
Is this only in reference to the Kerr incident?
Let it go. Steve Kerr has and he was the one that got punched in the face so why should you care? Not advocating for people to be punched in the face but still.
But kerr did punch him and his career wasn't over ...like the dumbest thing you could have said
Did you watch the docu? Kerr said he punched MJ. He didn't back down and they had a deep relationship after that. They took it like men. Bron's the one who trades teammates. lol
LBJ had 6 peat of finals losses😱
Shannon’s love for LBJ is incredible.
This must be scripted... Shannon can't be reaching that hard willingly... he sounds like Herd in his worst moments
You just realized that now?
No but every week of this doc he became worse
Trying to convince the world that Jordan is the greatest is aging Skip. The man is stressed 🤣🤣🤣
Shannon is the one who's yelling. You Bron stans are so delusional it's now become sad.
All Skip do is saying what the MAJORITY was saying. He's not there to convince the world but only Shannon's closed mind. lol
skip "I covered that team in [19]98, and let me tell you, michael scored every point in that series, INCLUDING THOSE FOR THE JAZZ!"
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Skip "I Was There" Bayless
Mj wasn’t a bully,he took the role of the leader of the bulls had to make his teammates stronger to get past the tougher competition and to bring the best out of them, he knew he was going to need them and he said he would never make them do anything that he wouldn’t do himself , it made pippin and others a better player ,they would never win all those championships without mj mental toughness and determination period.
Geez! Jordan Bullied Shannon more than he did with Burell.
Welcome to the land of softies LeShannon.
Shannon "I know what the locker room was like when I played" sheesh
You are aware Shannon won three super bowls in the NFL which is arguably the most physical team sport in the USA right?
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 of course I know that. But that doesn't mean that just because he knew Elway's and Lewis's leadership so well that Jordan's rough attitude should devalue him. Does LeShannon remember Lebron's cryptic tweets during his 2nd tenure with the Cavs as well? Mainly targetting Irving and Love
Should that devalue Lebron as a teammate then?
Waw scrolling down and im impressed no one made the Skip "i was there" Bayless 😂😂
I love you Shannon, but you’ve lost your bloody mind.