Fire Emblem Heroes Is Trash and Here's Why
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
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0:00 Intro
1:26 Things I like about the game
4:13 Things I hate about the game
4:41 FEH Pass, resources, summoning
11:16 Powercreep
14:06 Arena
24:58 Aether Raids
33:01 Other Game Modes
35:04 Summoner Duels
38:13 fuck it, idc anymore
53:30 FEH player guests feature
1:00:06 Outro 
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Thanks so much for allowing me to collab with you for this video and I wish you all the best with moving onto whatever you have planned next in your creative journey! I myself will probably keep playing this game (at least casually) till EOS purely because of my love for certain characters...yes mostly Reinhardt but some others too lol. My personal thoughts on this are if someone is having fun playing the game, then that's great, keep playing it! If they aren't enjoying the game as much anymore then perhaps they should maybe take a break or take a more casual approach to playing it. There's no shame in either continuing to play or deciding to stop, you can appreciate the series and fandom in your own way, and that's okay!
My Guy can I get the source for that dude screaming in the rain? I've been trying to save that in my Meme folder for long whole know I remember when Amazon (Now ElswordZero) used it all the time it killed me
i still play feh tbh
I'm just gonna ride it out till the end. I have the sunken cost fallacy over my head.
I just play super casually now. IS lacks passion for the game so why should we
Well said mate.
Im just here for cyl every year and the anniversary event
I respect your decision to quit. The only thing I disagree with is the notion of hoping other people quit, too. If people also don't enjoy the game, that's one thing, but if people are genuinely not bothered by the gacha model, I don't see why they should quit.
For me, I play semi-casually. I do all the modes and I just play as well as I can. I alternate between Vault every other week. I rarely play SD but I've started back up again after the freebie weekends that just got added. I'm between T18-T21 in Arena, and so on. I'm not sweaty about it because I just don't care about getting the top rewards. If I can build my favorite husbandos with the scores that I get, then I don't need any more. I play this game to use my favorites, I don't need them to be the absolute best.
As for something I really don't like, alt spam. I'm sick and tired of a new Lyn, Corrin, Camilla, Edelgard, etc. alt every couple of months. Now I'm fine once a character has their four alts and can run a full Emblem team for people who love that character. Fine by me. But some characters have been sitting on two or three alts for ages now while you can make two full teams of Lyn at this point. I get appealing to popularity. But damn, it's annoying just feeling perpetually ignored by IS spamming alts of the same handful of characters over and over.
Honestly I think the idea is to discourage the company from doing this kind of tactic. Given how they pump out new units to feed the power creep
the model itself is harmful enough for a need to persuade people out of it.
Another one has seen the light.
Another one bites the dust.
At this point I think I burst a vessel every time I see someone call this game "generous".
this games generous
If I hadn’t spent money on this game it would already be gone. But my pride keeps it around because it feels like a damn waste to just delete a game I’ve spent money on.
We've known you hated the game for years. This isn't news
I can't thank you enough for all the Excellent Adventures, and I can't wait to see where you go from here!!
Honestly all i got from that video is that the scoring system is trash lol.
What I really enjoy is resources management, as a f2p player getting most of the rewards is pretty satisfying to me, sometimes I don't summon for what I really want but that's okay I don't have huge attachments to most FE characters anyway so I'm fine creating new memories with the heroes that chose me during the summoning sessions.
Personally the only thing I like about this game is that I can play as Brigand Boss.
Not enough boss unit characters.
What I like about FEH is that it's a game that can let me gather all my favorite units. I made it my lowkey mission to gather up every variant of the Magvel crew, even the ones I instabenched. And the fact I can load them up with all sorts of premium stuff (skill limits permitting) is great! But that also ties into my main issue with FEH: You can only build your favorites up so much before they just start struggling to compare to newer, shinier stuff with skill lists that feel like you're looking at a combined mecha. Doubly hurts when an older unit gets a refine that isn't that good either at the time of release either (La'rachel got done dirty.). Speaking of, it is messed up that the Seasonals stuck with +Weapons are getting skipped over for proper refines.
MagicisBroken also brought up a really good point; the writers aren't using the cast they have to the fullest. Yeah, we've been getting more oddballs like Cervantes, but we don't get to see them or other characters interact much with the rest of the crew unless you get lucky with Forging Bonds. The mode's grindy, but I love how it introduced fun background stuff like how the Fighters and Brigands made their own club and it looked so interesting a rival group formed. Or stuff like heroes interacting with their villainous selves with Female Morgan dragging her evil self around to hang out and Lyon keeping his demon Lord possessed self in line with the presence of everyone who killed him and then some.
Anyways, thanks for the memories, it's been a ride.
Female Morgan the Abusive, Toxic, Traitorous, Narcissistic, Lazy, Bitchy Bully = toxic satanic dickshit.
I came for FEH, I stopped playing it. But I stayed because of your fine Touhou music taste
Exact same reasons as me. Fuck FEH. All my homies hate FEH.
If I have to use new heroes exclusively and not my Favorite heroes in order to fucking EXIST in FEH? I’m not gonna fuckin play the damn game that doesn’t want me to play it
I was a Day 1 player of FEH who quit years ago. Even back then the major issues of this game were becoming very apparent. The staleness of everything, the overwhelming amount of alts, the broken scoring system, powercreep invalidating older units, etc. Remember the interview way back with the FEH game dev who said they were going to be careful about powercreep? That didn’t last long, lmao.
I can never bring myself to delete any game account I’ve put time into. But I can say that I have zero interest in returning to my FEH accounts. The saving grace is that even though FEH was my first gacha game, I actually never spent a single penny on it. This is because:
1. I realized I could just make another account to reroll for units I liked.
2. FEH pushing an incentive to spend money for a better score in ranked modes actually had the opposite effect on me and disincentivized me to do so. I’m never going to make it up there with the mega whales, so why even try?
3. Why would I pay hundreds of dollars to max out the newest meta unit when another shinier one is going to powercreep it in 2-3 years?
I actually still play two gacha games, FGO and Genshin. I’m not nearly as annoyed with them as I was with FEH (since the game balance with these is a lot better) and I know my limits.
Still remember your video a few years ago with the legendary Jagen showdown. It was funny as hell which is why I’m still here. My condolences to you and everyone else who stuck with this mess until now.
Same, i stopped playing a few years ago and im currently looking for a new mobile game to play so considered restarting FEH and found this video.
The "summer" variants even a few years ago completely dominated the meta and the game was nearly fully pay2win.
yea I agree once u get to arena 18... u better hope u have some skills that increase more points and u have to win 5 in a row with bonus units. lol the only good thing about this game. u can play lots of units that normally u cant use like phila lol.
Genshin good.
@@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Phila = wife.
@@cable6416 Try Arknights, absolutely pog game
FEH is kusoge.
When I played FEH, I did like it because of the customizability I had with every unit I had.
I could turn my Roy into a good unit that I use on the regular that could contend with the best units in the meta (and win)
but
as the game grew so to, did the competition and I found powercreep just made the game blatantly unfun for me. Especially with Fallen Edelgard which is find is probably the catalyst for the things to come past her.
And it went down from there, often other teams would just completely counter my completely built binding blade team, render them useless in today's meta.
I quit around a few months after Fallen Edelgard's release.
The game began to become unfun because the core thing I learned is
*Every unit in FEH is customizable to an amazing extent, but only a small handful of units. Often rotating as banners come and go would be truly useable in a competitive environment.*
These days I play FGO truthfully,
I find it is a game that, appeals to why I like turnbased RPGS
and... I'm also a Nasuverse fan, and when there aren't new favorites being introduced, like Oberon-Vortigern whom I love dearly. Some old favorites are coming in to be playing like Arcueid Brunestud from Tsukihime, my favorite visual novel.
and FGO does fund more larger Nasuverse projects so truthfully,
me playing it, is also me wanting more Nasuverse stuff
like a Tsukihime remake localization or more DLC characters implemented into Melty Blood Type Lumina, as it goes
Aw man I feel ya. I also have a fully built FE6 team for Arena but now everything just trashes them. I am currently 3/11 for a +10 ascended Idunn but for now I am relying on Y Innes to take care of FEdelgard. I really dislike the disrespect that FEH serves to the GBA games especially FE6 whose only relevant contribution to the meta is Elimine and Adunn.. the main lord isn't even a participant and just got a lame remix.
I remember watching the discord post of the account deleted and your freedom. Still, gonna stick around until the game's end. I give no fucks about competitive. I just like building my units. I do be liking this animated avatar.
MARBELSODA YES THAT ONE deleted his account. That's how far this game's fallen.
God yes FEH is so horrible but I am not quitting cause I love FE I just play for the fun of getting more GBA FE characters and eventually building and merging the best Roy ever (low bar, I know).
I wish Dragonflowers weren't spread out like they are. They are so pointless since the newer units get access to them anyway albeit lower but that just raises the ceiling again which makes flowers... Yeah useless. Additionally flowers are spread to stats that are useless.. it would be great if these can be allocated with a cap of like.. only 10 flowers per stat..
i quit ages ago because aether raids was a never ending arms race that IS keeps going by introducing powercreep
i remember dropping many hundreds on AR-D, only for them to do stuff like nerf the map or introduce a new unit that hard counters my team to the point where it takes no effort to win.
May the Light be with you, man! 💗
I don't blame you at all. The game's just stale & boring.
I think he just realized this is a gacha game. Bit late on that realization, but good that you finally realized it. I'll still keep playin though. I know what I signed up for.
That's such a non-argument. FEH is terribly-mediocre for a gacha game. Like they don't even utilize half the ideas the franchise has to offer. Seems like as long as IS does a by formular boring gacha , it's okay to be shitty. RIP good game design.
@@soulmate5589 I don't know exactly how you want them to innovate on a gacha system. And I dunno about you, but there's only so much they could bring from their main games into Feh. Like, what do you want them to add? They added Canto, beast transformations, they did about as much as they could with the support system, we have the weapon triangle, shoving, I mean, what do we want, weapon ranks? Doesn't really seem plausible given the system we have. Promotions? Hmmm, not that one either. We even brought in weapon arts like Windsweep, and Atrocity. And the spark system lets us play with new fodder or units about every month and even more. Which is about um, 10000× better than like most other gachas. So if this is mediocre, then you, must really hate gachas. And I reiterate my point, that you just realized that this is a gacha game, and I'm sorry you found this out so late.
@@matthewjenkins4391 I found out that IS can be very lazy - especially with their copy & paste approach. This game is so predictable & obviously you got used to it being that bad. Just my opinion tho. The only thing worse is their laughable anniversary - which the 1st one turned out kinda decent by accident.
@@soulmate5589 well most mobile games arent good like bounty rush... and even dragon ball legends is a bit stale... like think about it.... its not just mobiles like fire emblem heroes an issue. its the devs who dont know how to run a game. I mean u can have a good game like force arena but if they cant run squat then its dead lol
@@soulmate5589 yea IS overall is kinda eh... I wish someone took over fire emblem heroes so it be a better game. the only thing I like about this game. we can play characters like phila, villians, and etc lol. but the main issue with heroes, in rank 18 arena. unless u got bonus units,+10, and certain skill that raises your points in arena. u will never make it to 19 and beyond and its annoying. not to mention u fight like edgel colorless so many dam times lol
What i like? Honestly all the Lyn alts and their art. What i hate: all the PVP and how there is too much to do. Sometimes you can sink hours on all the missions
Underrated Comment.
I'm getting back into feh and got this recommended lol, watched the whole video and yeah i remember all the problems in the competitive scene, I'm mostly nostalgic about this game and it's feel. i actually come from emulating a ton and didn't had problems quitting the game for a little more than a year. The powercreep in skills catched my interest and that's my favorite part of the game, getting fodder, doing Frankenstein builds and trying them everywhere, i used to love the game the most when i was in a community (akariss server pre nuke) then it was gone, and magically i quitted without noticing. Never hated the game, i don't mind not reaching top tier in modes, the biggest problem for me is just being a gacha and therefore being very limited in fun, that's how gachas do, they limit the fun, tell you what would be fun and that you should spend to get it
Akariss server pre nuke?
Deleting the gacha games was a great suggestion. Sadly, the only game I'd disagree with deleting (Dragalia) was deleted by Nintendo. smh, can't be a real game AND a gacha.
Sad how something that could pass for an actual game and full of high quality content gets the boot. Of all the gacha games I’ve played, the one I actually invest into gets taken away from me. Can understand the feeling of being done and tired with gachas now.
It's a crime that Dragalia Lost died, but trash like Fire Emblem Heroes continues to breathe among us. It's a crying shame.
Too much grind and not game.rewards are way too low .1 orb for 15 defeats.bit repitive.forging bonus 115 .20 for summoner mode
Agree wholeheartedly with everything you said.
Playing on any competitive mode is impossible because you get matched against whales with fully invested teams, putting you in a foul mood for the rest of the day.
I have to wonder, why on earth would anybody be a whale???? Who can actually take pride or enjoyment knowing you beat other players by bursting mommy´s credit card, to replace the "talent" or "ability" slot with "mommy´s hard earned money"???
There is also NO quality control AT ALL in the development team. They release overly broken units, and the MEDIOCRE playerbase flings to them like the maggots to the feces. So if you want to play on any mode you play 100 matches and out of the 100, 250.000 are against that broken new unit, and that unit alone. I remember last year getting tired out of my soul of seeing Fedel all the freaking time, now its Brave Seliph...
Glad i never paid a dime for this game tbh.
It’s been fun, but all things have to end lol
Thank you for bringing up the exact points on why I have not enjoyed the game as much as I used to and why it was a bad idea to come back and try using Feh pass. This game has exposed me to the ideas that I do not like at all like "luck based-progression", the idea that you can save for something for months and still not have it pay off, and to kind of add this being punished for finishing a really hard map that took a lot of effort to do just to be given a 3 star unit that has existed since the game came out for your troubles. This type of thing has happened to me on at least 3 separate occasions where I save months worth of orbs, around 600, only to not get enough merges or I get merges on a unit I have no attachment to and they are just a unit to help me farm story mode orbs. (Which is dumb because I would rather those orbs I farmed be merges for the character I wanted.)
Fire Emblem Heroes was the worst Gacha Game ever,I literally wasted my money and my savings just to get Legendaries and Mythics (Because they only have Killing Animations which piss me off,why can't they give Base Marth a Killing Animation? I don't know why?) And also to get those stupid Bunny Outfit Female Characters (Which Certain Players Jack-O** to,especially with Bunny Fae). Not to mention their Pass is basically a "F U Give Me Money" Scam, Abyssal Difficulty is a Pain in the Ass and Rage Inducing,Aether rAIDS is basically an Arena but you battle against players who probably sleep in the streets,do questionable things for money,or rob banks to get +10 Legendaries and Mythics. And their Summoning System....I HATE IT WITH A BURNING PASSION,every single 3 Star Character is basically a Middle Finger from the developers and a kick to the teeth to f2ps that would make EA blush and if you want that character because they have a Killing Animation you're gonna have to buy more Orbs just to get an Ultra Rare JPEG that has a unique killing animation,Everyone should just delete their account and also force the developers to give us a refund if it dies....but that will never happen because they are greedy a**holes.
What I like about feh is going at my own pace for the most part, I play alot of ar, really like it, I'm satisfied with making vault and maintaining it, not necessarily getting top 1k, resonates battles, I can usually keep tier 20-21(depending on the week) just with like +1 harmonics, like that mode, characters look nice blah blah blah.
What I hate about feh, I can agree on the summoning 11 copies for the max potential and it's rates, it's so dumb that the featured 5 stars and non featured have the same rates, make the featured at least 2 or 3% higher, I also agree on limited resources like grails, there hasn't been anything I wanted to build for a while and I have 4.5k, I can't stand arena, I just drift between tier 19 and 20, some weeks even that's stressful cause of the bonus unit, I simply don't do assault, base summoner duels, still at like 1.1k since it's release, unless there's another forma soul, ain't touching it, summoner duels S, I load up with crappy units, do one match, lose quickly and dip, only other thing I hate is GQ, I absolutely can't stand that mode, it's far easier than summoner duels and arena, I just can't stand it.
Good to hear your thoughts/you getting things off your chest; I don't wish for anyone to put themselves through a stressful experience when games are supposed to be fun.
Thanks for your hard work and the good times!
I love FEH because i love the concept of a crossover world where all the characters in the franchise can meet and become friends or just interact in general. As a person that likes fanworks (fanarts and fanfics, for example) this sort of concept gives me so much room for creativity and enjoyment. That's why my favorite game mode is Forging Bonds
That was a good watch and I understand your reasoning.
I had something really similar going on with another gacha. I felt like it was eating too much of my time and that I felt miserable looking at my life slipping away playing it and not even enjoying it as much as I used too. Played it for 3 years and deleted it over night for the exact same reasons : to not be tempted going back to it. It’s hard because you can become really attached to something you put time and passion into, even met good people there but yeah, if your arm is pushing your body to go to a bad place, maybe you have to cut it.
About FEH I stopped playing it a while ago. Didn’t delete the account but everytime I download it I just stare at my +10 Soleil, look around for the free summons and delete the app immediately after. Game has been stale for me for too damn long.
Goddamn that ending had me in my feels, especially as someone that quit roughly a year ago for all the same reasons. When I had a perfect offense and defense for 2 weeks in a row but still didn’t make too 1K because I didn’t have more mYThIc MErgES, that’s when I knew it was time to go.
Another thing about AR, sometimes having a good defense just meant using a superpowered meta comp against some poor bloke who was using their F2P brave Ike or black knight. It didn’t feel good to completely crush someone just because I spent more money than them. Losing didn’t feel good, and honestly neither did winning after a certain point.
I should have mentioned that part in the video but nothing was more annoying than getting a double perfect every week only to not actually be at the top because of the mythic requirement. such awful design.
recognized the el search party outfit from elsword from ur sona :D the art is cute!!! also yeah feh is bloated asf now
One of my favorite aspects of FEH is how it allows you to build units in various ways to get more out of what they're going for or something else entirely, I built a speed stacked Lyon recently and it was honestly the most fun I've had with the game because of how silly it sounded but turned out to be pretty effective, which kind of frustrates me about new units and how they come prepackaged with the skills they already want in most cases and you hardly need to do any inheritance for them beyond an Assist/Special in most cases. Though because of that and how the meta is with Save skills/cavline/whatever, it stifles the creativity you can have with the units because they aren't an Armor or aren't compatible with certain good skills that IS seems to only hand off to units who are already eating well (We'll never get justice for ranged Fliers).
A respectable decision to quit playing, but I look forward to the content you put forth in the future, Marbels!
I'm commentating while watching and wanted to say what I liked personally about the game and why I dropped it aswell
What I've always liked about the game is how much you can customize your units, I deeply loved making "teams" of 4 units which I never separated, they were always together and meant to be played together, so I made some build with character that had clear weakness and those weakness were compensated by the strength of one other unit, by doing that I obtained balance with each team and was really satisfied about it, I remember talking with friends about which character could be good with which type of team... for hours. I may have spent more time talking with friends about team building than actually playing the game.
I'm also someone who like to obtain "perfection" with an unit, and that is a terrible trait to have while playing a gacha game, moreover a gacha like fire emblem heroes and how it evolved over the years. That's actually the first thing I started disliking a lot, how hard it became to get good skills for a unit. I'm talking about those "premium" distant counter, all the tier 4 skills that came after and made me have to update all my units, imagine still using something like swift sparrow 2 when swift sparrow 3 came out lol.
As I said before I liked obtaining near perfect units that I built from zero, things like 3*/4* characters that I build to 5* +10, gave them a special weapon and different skills. Many of these units had no "PRF weapons" so you had to give them something like "slaying edge refined + speed" and that was good because old special weapon dedicated to a specific character were strong, but not that much compared to weapon everybody could use. I'm talking about base falchion, Ayra base weapon that wasn't even used, those days were cool.
Now with all the powercreep, outdated units have it very hard and apart from doing an specific job like killing a really specific type of unit, they can't do shit and that really bummed myself, I remember having like half of my team invalidated when Fallen Eldegard came out, what a day to be playing this game.
Also, remember when dragonflowers were made to get old units do better ? Now everyone gets to have + 20 DF and if you want to put 20 DF on your unit, you're gonna have to farm for fucking years and once you get them all your unit is outdated and worthless, same with merges for 5* which is basically borderline impossible for any f2p player, I've been playing since day one and I think the unit I got the most was original Ike to + 7 and with how outdated that guy is, it doesn't matter anymore at this point.
And now let's talk about the Arena, with the most SHITTY system I've seen in my whole life playing gacha games, needing high BST on all your 4 units to get in the top score is so fucking retard I can't even believe they made a choice like that and went with it, you want to play your favourite cavalry unit ? Too bad they have dogshit stats compared to armor units and you can't use it. It gets even worse with the "bonus unit" system. Aether raids was fine at the beginning but it quickly went to shit, sadly
Finally, there's all the shit that the devs made for the Feh pass that was so fucking disgusting, I was frustrated, imagine having your favorite unit getting a way to get +2 stats everywhere but you actually have to pay 10 euros for it, that and many other things in the game ended up making me drop the game definitely.
I think the golden age of this game was when inheriting came up to around 2 years later around. I still have a lot of good memories playing this game but I'm sad of how it changed to its actual state.
It's like they made this game flawed on purpose for whatever reason, I guess atleast they got a lot of money for doing that somehow.
Thats why i stoped caring,only do some eventes if im free,no arena,no ar,just character collection
"Why isn't there a resource to help merge up units?"
Cause IS loves to watch me squirm in arena while I try to use the Askr trio as my only available bonus units
THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS
Congrats on pulling the plug, man
3:10 One of the best girls in the game aside from Ashera.
I personally like Pawns Of Loki :) I'm 17th overall with not many +10's
Day 1 player here, I quit around a month ago. I'd say I had a pretty healthy relationship with the game, usually playing it casually when on the bus or while having breakfast, and never spending a cent on it. So I didn't feel like deleting my account was necessary, I might even come back if they add something interesting (co-op is the only thing interesting enough I can think of right now that would make me come back).
I quit because the gameplay was becoming more and more frustrating/boring to me. First I stopped playing Arena. Next I stopped playing AR, and only doing the auto battle stuff. Then SD came, I played for a week or so, and then I just insta surrendered for the rewards. Saves and powercreep in general ruined PoL, which used to be kind of fun. The common factor for me is powercreep: my favs are all non-meta, non-armor units, so the game just kept getting more and more frustrating. The PvE modes were fine, I could beat those with my favs, but for as much content as FEH pours out, it's WAY too little: IS expects the PvP to be what keeps you playing every day, I think.
That being said, what I like about FEH is Forging Bonds. I mean, sure, it's a grindfest. But the mini-stories this side of the Loki+Aversa one are usually pretty nice, and I like seeing interactions between characters you wouldn't expect to interact with one another.
FEH was my first and only gacha, and I kind of enjoyed it while it lasted. As shitty as they can be, I like playing gachas: they give me something light to focus on during dead time, the regular stream of content gives me something to look foward to every two weeks or so and I like the whole "resource management" experience you get while being 100% F2P.
So just a few days back I started playing Arknights, and I'm having a blast. The story is cool, the gameplay is fine, and not having PvP seems to make it so the powercreep is less evident. Unlike FEH, I have zero attachment to any of the characters, but I'm already liking the protagonist. So yeah, we'll see how long this lasts.
Yo, welcome to AK! Started three(ish) months ago myself, and been having a blast since. Get ready for SN, very high-value banner with good limited units)
I was a day one player. I stuck around through Book II, and I quit (and deleted my account) halfway through Book III. Many of the problems you have outlined in the video were already present back then, with powercreep being the most egregious focus. The powercreep had gotten so bad, it bleeded into most of the game modes, including the very flawed scoring and ranking systems many of the modes had. Not even Dragonflowers could save your precious favorites from being powercreeped... which was what I was mostly using during my time of play.
Honestly, we should have seen the CYL1 banner as a warning shot for the future. We did not heed the warning. Instead we ignored it, and continued playing FEH. We did not realize the horrors we would later see in the game's future.
FEH felt monotonous and I felt like I was going through the motions just playing this game. I saw the writing on the wall early, and got the hell out while I still had a chance to. Thankfully, I only spent a pittance of money ($50 at most), so it was easy for me to cut bait. It's a shame some people realized this far too late.
Seeing you quit a while back spurred me to quit myself. Thanks! Im glad I did lol
Omg i quit recently too lol . Woohoo ! We hate feh !
back to elsword, kek
Please no
My only question is what would a coop mode actually do for FEH? Because when I hear others talk about adding a coop mode they don't actually describe what they want out of it which leads me to just imagine rokkr sieges with 3 other people which sounds insanely boring.
I only play now a days to get my favourite characters and that’s it
I started playing this game at the start, but haven’t actually played it in a long while. I log in do the free summons (if any) then log off. Don’t have the heart to delete tho, I’ll wait till the end so I can send off all my hero’s home before it shuts down.
oh and another thing? so regular units at 40 summons u can get what u want. but alt units 40 summon u need feh pass... and also getting orbs is very very limited. but I do say I get 5 stars pretty often compare to other games.
What are you going to do now with your channel?
Honestly I'm just playing to collect units. It's like pokemon in a way lol. Of course I'm not going to spend a $1000 on this game. Just using my luck really.
This sort of stuff is why I can't get into competitive. I'm still hooked on the game to the point where I spend money, but I don't bother with competitive play and just enjoy letting my frankenstein builds destroy PvE, both out of understanding that powercreep is inevitable and a general dislike of competitive in general.
No shade from me though, I could tell in some of your previous streams that you weren't enjoying the game anymore. Here's hoping your next silly endeavor is more engaging and less stressful.
Nice El Officer / Edan outfit
Yeah I understand this since I quit all the way back before male Kris's release. The game feels alright to play casually but when I look all the gamemodes it doesn't feel nice to think about.
If there is one gacha game i genuinly enjoy playing its Battle Cats.
Its a game first and gacha second. its very possible to play through the game with common gacha units (or even go no gacha and use the freebees only).
Its definitly not perfect and occasionally the balance of the game gets kind of fucked due a new unit releasing or stupid stage design (Crowned Uncanny Legends and gauntlers are quilty of this) but the game is still enjoyable and there is alot of game for people who just joined to dig in.
as someone who's main draw to feh was collecting the units, its not even fun for that anymore. I always wanted to build the units I loved, and made them viable. with rising costs and powercreep, it's just not worth it. not even to mention that almost all of the characters worth caring about are already in, there's nothing to look forward to.
if all I can do with my units is look at them, and be glad to have them, then what point is there to playing the game? the final few units I fully merged I barely even cared for, because there's nowhere to use the shiny new unit I spent so long building. yes, I still play the game, but it really only boils down to logging on once, MAYBE twice a week, taking my free summons, and dipping
I enjoyed the game early on when you were given the privilege of using a unit you actually liked using and using unique strategies to play game modes. Scoring wasn't that bad, and you could pretty much use anything to combat other units/players.
The problem that started were skill checks, stat checks locked behind a pay wall, constant alts of literally the same units, Arena scoring, Aether Raid's meta, the list goes on. What makes it worse is that the slow power creep up to a point makes the game, to me, unfun because the idea is to have a sense of progression.
I feel like since the game started I've progressed quite a lot, however since the recent additions of super stat units, pay wall modes, gimmicks, etc. it made the game unfun to the point that you're essentially required to have certain units, at that, as a F2P, you're left in the dust if you don't save orbs for said unit and if you don't get that unit, you have to build an alternative unit that can beat those units, and the cycle repeats.
It is essentially as you said, "Make a problem, sell a solution." It only works so long until people notice and start to dislike the game as it stands. Most of the modes I don't even bother playing because it got to the point where I'd go from T19.5-20 in Arena, T30-33 in Aether Raids, and I almost do a lot to score high in other modes, but it is worthless if I don't have the merges. All in all, I spent time playing Last Cloudia. It feels better as a game, or just playing other games.
I'm a big fan of Henry. I enjoyed feh when it first came out because, as soon as they introduced skill inheritance, I could keep him "meta" as long as I wanted. He has one of the lowest attack stats to this day, and yet I had him dealing 100+ damage regularly based on skills alone. I always had at least one Henry on my team, because I had multiple, fully built Henrys with different skill/stat focused. I could run a full team of just fully maxed out +10 Henrys! I had 5 of them! They could kill any unit that came at them with the right setup.
As soon as they introduced the damage reduction skills, they because straight up unusable. Fallen Edelgard was just too much for ANY unit I had. Even a fully maxed out Henry with high attack and his weapon that's good against colorless units wasn't enough.
At that point I played for a little longer before realizing I wasn't having fun anymore. Fallen edel being meta meant they made money by selling her, so they put her on a banner once a month for a while. Everyone had her, and I just couldn't win anything! And then every other character started getting the damage reduction skills too. That's where I had to quit. If I can't use this team I spent years building, why do I bother?
Respect. Thanks for all the good times dude, glad you're finally free
PS That Elsword music got me real sentimental goddammit
I like that older units getting the spotlight and what -if scenarios, but the fact they don't do much with said scenarios sucks. I do dislike the meta just because of scoring since its not good like u said the vid and just makes most modes dull and how on new banners 1 slot is always taken by alt now which means one less unit added. At least the music is really good.
Really enjoyed your FEH content. Sad to see you close the book on it, but I don't blame you. The game has been going in a negative direction for a while, and anyone paying attention could tell that the passion was dying. I don't think anyone would want to see you torture yourself. Thanks for all the fun times, looking forward to more in the future. Even if it's not from FEH.
Always thought you've been at the frontier of interesting feh content. Respect your decision to quit I also think the game wasn't innovative enough to deserve your attention. If it had been maybe you wouldn't have.
I did a soft quit in feb of this year and am kind of back now. Something feh does for me specifically is building teams of units from the same game collection style. I love seeing people's dedication to a certain faction or entry in the franchise.
I can't super relate to the hardcore hate people have for the concept of bonus units ruining competitive spirt. Like yes if you want to win, and yes all the game really offers is it's competitive side. But it doesn't really reward or encourage you THAT much to chase it. So maybe that's why i feel okay with it.
I do think... Idk i have real life goals that I need to achieve. Novels i plan to publish. While I'm at work with nothing to do or bored it's perfectly fine to have a mobile game of my favorite franchise at my fingertips. But when I'm on vacation... Logging in, doing dailies... That's when i feel like I'm making a mistake. Taking a step back helped me come to terms with leaving the game occasionally.
I'm a builder. If I had to narrow down what I enjoy in FEH down to its very core, it's the fact that I can take a favorite character of mine, and give them premium skills, dragonflowers, etc and know that I put the work in to make them the best they can be.
I was like this before FEH, even. I'm one of those weirdos who actually played Fates Revelation more than once, solely because there's a lot of unit min-maxing you can do when you have access to the whole cast (minus Yukimura but lol, lmao even)
The problem with FEH to me lies in the fact that, yeah, I'm building my favorites up and proud of the work I'm putting into them...but what am I gonna use these builds for? I'm not a competitive person, and like you, I can't stand the bonus and scoring systems that plague these modes. But to me it goes a step beyond when not only does the game expect you to have highly merged, high BST units to succeed, it wants you to use certain skills like Rallies/HC+, Ruptured Sky/Aether, and 300 SP skills on everything. At that point, I'm not using "my" build, that I put so much time and investment to making it perfect to my liking; instead im using the crap that the game wants me to use, and it feels like a slap in the face on multiple levels. The one Arena mode that sidesteps that issue is Arena Assault, but nowadays I can't even play that half the time because Summoner Duels S/R prevents it from being available, for some ungodly reason.
But again, I'm not a competitive guy. If the game gave me enough quality PvE content to work with, I'd be content with just flexing my max invested Maribelle, Ishtar or whatever on Abyssals and calling it a day. But the fact of the matter is we don't get a good enough stream of content in that regard. Limited battles are kind of a bandaid to repackage older challenge maps with added incentives to try new teams, but it isn't enough. Like you also said, there's a lot of "do nothing" modes that feel like they just waste space. Stuff like Lost Lore and Phalanx are wastes of space. Forging Bonds and Tempest Trials is literally just a stamina sink with autobattle to get the rewards. I just want some more content that encourages me to use my max invested units that isn't some PvP nonsense.
I will continue to play FEH, but I'm in a wierd spot. The game *clearly* is trying to be a more competitive focused game than I would like, but when they do put decent PvE content, rare as it is, I still enjoy it greatly. But at the same time, most of my favorites are already in the game, I'm not particularly wowed by a lot of banners lately, and only really pull for fodder at this point. So I'm more or less "waiting for the game to get good" lmao.
What I like about FEH:
The art; almost all of it is stunning and it introduced us to A LOT of excellent artists.
Pre-Awakening characters now get official voices and most of them are excellent
We get fun interactions between characters from different eras
(Granted, you don't NEED the game to access all of the above)
Hall of Forms is still a fun mode, being able to build Heroes you may not have in ways you probably couldn't afford normally.
Tap Battle is still fun to play
What I dislike about FEH:
Locking features that *should* be available to everyone behind a paywall (auto-restart, sparking for limited banners): that is just... SUPER stingy and makes me not want to pay out of spite
The way of summoning: sometimes the colours you want just NEVER appear and you waste orbs, it's super frustrating. Especially during those 5* guaranteed banners where you can only summon once
PvP scoring (overall but most notably in Arena) is just skewed far away from F2P players and also, I cannot make sense of it. It's irritating. No matter what teams I use in, say, Mjolnir's Strike, I can't get into any higher tiers and i REALLY don't know what else I can do. At this point, all I do in these modes is the bare minimum.
Tap Battle may be fun, but the rewards are really lacking since they're only doing Encores now
Those monthly quests where you get orbs by completing the highest floors in Training Tower are FRIGGIN' BORING. It's a slog to do every time.
I dunno, I still get enough enjoyment out of the game to stick around, but I do think there's more bad in here than good.
Not exactly related but... What do you think about Arknights?
decent.
@@MarbelSoda Well, this wasn't "it's a game that really breaks your expectations of a gacha game by being very generous and brings new life into the TD game genre by making Tower Defense ACTUALLY FUN TO PLAY"
but I'll take that as well, thank you.
axed feh content means now you can make 3 hour long video essays on lore and not even just Fire Emblem
Considering your content so far? I'm staying, can't wait to see what you do next
What I like? The customizability and ability to play with who you like, and enjoy the characters that you love
. . . Until you try to do anything remotely PVE and have to suffer through all the powercreep that makes everything I said irrelevant.
Bye Felicia
bro what about Flora?
yea I do agree like.... I want to get tailtiu for +10 project. and I am getting super unlucky lol. also kinda hate the feh pass skin pay to win and speaking of that... auto battle only for p2p really? lol
I respect your decision and I understand why you made this choice. In the end, you do you.
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EY YO IS THAT GOKU IN SATURN?
Damg imma be sleeping by then
Rearmed heroes honestly fixed a lot of these problems
Here's to you moving forward my dude. Hope you have a fantastic day.
Just started watching, wanted to say that the voice audio is too quiet while the memes too loud
I quit for 2 months ago. I can't keep up with meta. This game give too much in one personal weapon. investment don't pay last long to your efforts.
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Is this about wasting orbs over character that you want to get
who
$7000. Holy shit. Are you just super wealthy or do you actually make this kind of money playing games? Minblowing
And then here’s me still stuck on the IOS 16 Beta softlock, essentially locking me out of the game until IOS 16 becomes Alpha.
Hey marble start a tiktok :>
Why would you spend all that time and outright delete your account? Thats like playing an MMO for years, gathering up limited time items and deleting your account because you quit.. Thats just a waste of money and time being thrown away if you ever want to return..
The point is to not return, it’s always tempting to come back when the option is always there. Committing to the decision via deleted account really keeps you away.