Is there anything Kleiber can't conduct that always astonishes me how he makes these classic works appear as if they were written recently? His energy is incredible!
Kleiber should have recorded major symphonies of Mozart. What a beautiful Schubert 3 - I listened Mozart symphony 26 by Kleiber with VP - that changed my whole ideas about Mozart symphonies. What a dignity and graceful expressions were!
I really love Schubert's Symphonies. Well, I really love Schubert in fact ! Brilliant performance. It ranks among my favorite so far. I love Abbado, too. Elegant and lively conduction from both artists.
These early Schubert symphonies are a delight. Amazing achievements from a still-adolescent composer, his incredible melodic gift already so apparent. Kleiber (son of the great Erich) a superb exponent, and the Vienna Philharmonic an ideal vehicle. Thanks for this delectable New Year's gift!
Grandiose how Maestro Kleiber gets into the spirit of each composer he conducts. Of course the Vienna Philharmonics do their part as well, don't they? Thank you for this delightful presentation!
Youthfully bright and cheerful indeed. I don't know the work well enough to have any strong opinions about the performance, but this one does sound excellent, capturing the infectious exuberance very well I think. Happy New Year to you too!
Wunderbare Interpretation dieser unvergleichlichen Musik ! Tempi unglaublich ein-"leuchtend", überhaupt dieser leuchtende Impetus...wie kamen diesem Jüngling Schubert solche Töne bei?! Herrlich CARLOS w i e Du das mit den WIENER PHILHARMONIKERN umgesetzt hast! Ruggiero Solfitscho , Triest
The second movement of this symphony has always seemed to me to cry out for Christmas lyrics that could be sung along with the music. How about Its the time for Christmas, a time for Christmas joys. A time for happiness for all good girls and boys.
Dans les années 1980, Georges Zeisel avait fait une comparaison très éclairante de cette version de Carlos Kleiber avec celle de son père Erich, sur France Musique...
When I hear something like this from VPO and Carlos Kleiber, I cannot but think that it was unforgivable thing that Kleiber & VPO committed a grave harm against the classical music repertoire by not recording Beethoven's 9th. symphony, and I would wish that someone would had forced them to do it.
Nah, Most conductors don't conduct the work until they are absolutely convinced they can do it, and Kleiber, being the absolute perfectionist that he is, would never conduct a work as big as the 9th, even if he was being forced too.
@@MrTann2010 Who talked about forcing something?! and could you tell me more about who suggested for him the 9th, and how he refused?! you imply that when he "refused" to conduct Tchaikovsky's 6th. & Dvorak's 9th. that he is so unqualified for that level of complexity," not to say Beethoven's 9th. I think that this is outrageous and false remark about the greatest conductor of all times.
@Wael Ahmad You misunderstand me. First of all, I am a big fan of Carlos Kleiber. He is, in my opinion, one of the top 5 conductors of all time. Also, Nowhere in my comment did I say that he isn't qualified enough to conduct Beethoven's 9th. However, Kleiber was such a perfectionist, always thinking he wasn't good enough, but yet he was more demanding than any other conductor and he also conducted so little. However, it is difficult to imagine him conducting such a grand work despite him knowing the symphony very well. It is also a work which his father did, (pretty well, I might add), and I don't think Carlos would have wanted to be compared to his dad if he think he couldn't do better. As for who invited him, Charles Barber, in his book, "Corresponding with Carlos Kleiber", did invite him to conduct Beethoven's 9th, but Kleiber rejected teasingly. Regarding Tchaikovsky's 6th and Dvorak's 9th, (He knew both symphonies very well. Erich Kleiber did several recordings of Tchaikovsky's 6th) he was close to conduct those symphonies at certain concerts, but he pulled out of those at the last minute.
@@MrTann2010 At least we are in agreement that he was one of the top conductors (I'm still consider him the top of the pyramid in his body & facial expressions of the music), which bring me back to my original comment that his little output in recording major works is unforgivable, at least to the classical music lovers and his fans, definitely I would have liked to listen to his interpretations and conducting of those mentioned great works even if they were less than his high standards, and I think that you would have liked to have it, too.
RUclips the masters in destroying the atmosphere of a major work of art with their damn commercials! But of course RUclips directors are so intelligent and skilled that they could match Franz Schubert talent! Poor composer, poor Kleiber and poor Vienna Philharmonic despised like that!
I guess what you could do is pay for a subscription, ad free, music and video streaming service. If you want free, expect ads - it’s the way of the world!
I agree - this symphony is full of the fabled sunny southern land ‘where the citrus trees bloom’. A joy from start to finish; my favorite section is the main section of the 1st movement, with the wondrously beautiful playing of the VPO.
I'm convinced there's a wrong note near 2:23....but get into it around 2:20 - also, i am far less than amateur; it just happens I am currently rehearsing this work and a bit more attuned than normal
This is certainly the fastest version I've heard. It's not a dance movement, though. It's an ABA structure, though, like a minuet or scherzo movement, but the first time I heard it, I expected it was going to be a theme and variations as in the second symphony. There is a section where the strings moving very quickly accompany the winds and it feels as if there are some problems with clarity or ensemble there due to the speed.
I was just going to make this comment, but with only 57 comments in, I decided to check if anyone already mentioned it. I realize it is called Allegretto, but as soon as it started, I said to myself, "This must be the fastest I have ever heard it." Indeed, to my taste, this is one of the rare times that I could find anything to criticize in a Kleiber performance. The music seems to fit a teasing trot much better than a full-blown gallop. And it's odd, because he generally was not in favor of extremely fast or slow paces, like Lennie would often do.
I. Adagio maestoso - Allegro con brio 0:00
II. Allegretto 8:55 (!!!)
III. Menuetto. Vivace 11:40
IV. Presto vivace 15:22
namsawam thank you
Oh man thanks ilysm😂
Very poetic and serious symphony, but with sense of humour and so much funny moments.
Great Schubert, great Carlos Kleiber, great Vienna Symphony Orchestra!
Yes, but it is Vienna PHILHARMONIC
Is there anything Kleiber can't conduct that always astonishes me how he makes these classic works appear as if they were written recently? His energy is incredible!
It is so true. I could not agree more. If only there were more.
Schubert and Kleiber together.....astonishing!
What an unbelievably thrilling Presto vivace. Bravo!!
Delightful
Great performance and recording as well! What an amazing gem of classical music on RUclips!
What a delight his earlier sym's are!
Kleiber should have recorded major symphonies of Mozart. What a beautiful Schubert 3 - I listened Mozart symphony 26 by Kleiber with VP - that changed my whole ideas about Mozart symphonies. What a dignity and graceful expressions were!
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I really love Schubert's Symphonies. Well, I really love Schubert in fact !
Brilliant performance. It ranks among my favorite so far. I love Abbado, too. Elegant and lively conduction from both artists.
Una obra maestra, efervescente, intensa, mágica, y esplendorosa, sencillamente es la obra de un Genio!!!!!!!!!!!!
These early Schubert symphonies are a delight. Amazing achievements from a still-adolescent composer, his incredible melodic gift already so apparent. Kleiber (son of the great Erich) a superb exponent, and the Vienna Philharmonic an ideal vehicle. Thanks for this delectable New Year's gift!
Great of course!
Wonderful exposition, of course Carlos Kleiber conducting!
This is fantastic and showing perfect Kleiber's sound. His Schubert unfinished is shockingly good and sensational (VP).
wish Schubert had lived longer and wrote a dozen or so more of these
Grandiose how Maestro Kleiber gets into the spirit of each composer he conducts.
Of course the Vienna Philharmonics do their part as well, don't they?
Thank you for this delightful presentation!
LAL! Nice to have you complement the performers.
Thanks very MUCH.... Real gift!
glorious!
Youthfully bright and cheerful indeed. I don't know the work well enough to have any strong opinions about the performance, but this one does sound excellent, capturing the infectious exuberance very well I think. Happy New Year to you too!
Great Performance ! Thank you very much :)
Bravo!
Wunderbare Interpretation dieser unvergleichlichen Musik ! Tempi unglaublich
ein-"leuchtend", überhaupt dieser leuchtende Impetus...wie kamen diesem Jüngling Schubert solche Töne bei?!
Herrlich CARLOS w i e Du das mit den WIENER PHILHARMONIKERN umgesetzt hast!
Ruggiero Solfitscho , Triest
Amazing! 😃
The second movement of this symphony has always seemed to me to cry out for Christmas lyrics that could be sung along with the music. How about Its the time for Christmas, a time for Christmas joys. A time for happiness for all good girls and boys.
Dans les années 1980, Georges Zeisel avait fait une comparaison très éclairante de cette version de Carlos Kleiber avec celle de son père Erich, sur France Musique...
When I hear something like this from VPO and Carlos Kleiber, I cannot but think that it was unforgivable thing that Kleiber & VPO committed a grave harm against the classical music repertoire by not recording Beethoven's 9th. symphony, and I would wish that someone would had forced them to do it.
Nah, Most conductors don't conduct the work until they are absolutely convinced they can do it, and Kleiber, being the absolute perfectionist that he is, would never conduct a work as big as the 9th, even if he was being forced too.
@@MrTann2010 Who talked about forcing something?! and could you tell me more about who suggested for him the 9th, and how he refused?! you imply that when he "refused" to conduct Tchaikovsky's 6th. & Dvorak's 9th. that he is so unqualified for that level of complexity," not to say Beethoven's 9th. I think that this is outrageous and false remark about the greatest conductor of all times.
@Wael Ahmad You misunderstand me. First of all, I am a big fan of Carlos Kleiber. He is, in my opinion, one of the top 5 conductors of all time. Also, Nowhere in my comment did I say that he isn't qualified enough to conduct Beethoven's 9th.
However, Kleiber was such a perfectionist, always thinking he wasn't good enough, but yet he was more demanding than any other conductor and he also conducted so little. However, it is difficult to imagine him conducting such a grand work despite him knowing the symphony very well. It is also a work which his father did, (pretty well, I might add), and I don't think Carlos would have wanted to be compared to his dad if he think he couldn't do better.
As for who invited him, Charles Barber, in his book, "Corresponding with Carlos Kleiber", did invite him to conduct Beethoven's 9th, but Kleiber rejected teasingly.
Regarding Tchaikovsky's 6th and Dvorak's 9th, (He knew both symphonies very well. Erich Kleiber did several recordings of Tchaikovsky's 6th) he was close to conduct those symphonies at certain concerts, but he pulled out of those at the last minute.
@@MrTann2010 At least we are in agreement that he was one of the top conductors (I'm still consider him the top of the pyramid in his body & facial expressions of the music), which bring me back to my original comment that his little output in recording major works is unforgivable, at least to the classical music lovers and his fans, definitely I would have liked to listen to his interpretations and conducting of those mentioned great works even if they were less than his high standards, and I think that you would have liked to have it, too.
RUclips the masters in destroying the atmosphere of a major work of art with their damn commercials! But of course RUclips directors are so intelligent and skilled that they could match Franz Schubert talent! Poor composer, poor Kleiber and poor Vienna Philharmonic despised like that!
Try downloading AdBlock (free!) if you have the Google Chrome web browser and your problem is solved...
Free AdBlock works for me, too. No music interruptions. It also works as virus protection.
jd jesuit poor uninformed frothing at the mouth know-nothing get back to 50 cent and taylor swift
I guess what you could do is pay for a subscription, ad free, music and video streaming service. If you want free, expect ads - it’s the way of the world!
Maybe just buy a CD for a couple of bucks?
Beautiful light touch. Typical of Kleiber.
This could be the Italian Symphony is Mendelssohn hadn't composed that. The Preso vivace somehow reminds me of the Saltarello.
I agree - this symphony is full of the fabled sunny southern land ‘where the citrus trees bloom’. A joy from start to finish; my favorite section is the main section of the 1st movement, with the wondrously beautiful playing of the VPO.
Came here from "Luigi Giussani Spirto Gentil" :-)
I'm convinced there's a wrong note near 2:23....but get into it around 2:20 - also, i am far less than amateur; it just happens I am currently rehearsing this work and a bit more attuned than normal
nice piece to wake up to.Life s not so bad.WEll.Is it ? I ll get back to you on that.
Really, it isn't!
슈벨트 하면 미완성 교양곡이 연상 되지만 3 번도 대단히 좋다 베토번의 색채도 엿보인다
나는 비엔나다 뉴욕필하모니다 교양악단을 기리지 않는다 헨드폰으로 듣는대 선탁의 여지가 없지않은가 나오대로 감사하게 감상한다
8:58 Much too fast (fastest on record, in fact). This movement should NOT sound like a scherzo.
Faster is always better, like the Italians. This is a rip snorter.
But it's a dance... Slow is it boring
Fits "allegretto" imo, and sounds fine. I generally like Schubert played expansively, yet this does not offend me.
This is certainly the fastest version I've heard. It's not a dance movement, though. It's an ABA structure, though, like a minuet or scherzo movement, but the first time I heard it, I expected it was going to be a theme and variations as in the second symphony. There is a section where the strings moving very quickly accompany the winds and it feels as if there are some problems with clarity or ensemble there due to the speed.
I was just going to make this comment, but with only 57 comments in, I decided to check if anyone already mentioned it. I realize it is called Allegretto, but as soon as it started, I said to myself, "This must be the fastest I have ever heard it." Indeed, to my taste, this is one of the rare times that I could find anything to criticize in a Kleiber performance. The music seems to fit a teasing trot much better than a full-blown gallop. And it's odd, because he generally was not in favor of extremely fast or slow paces, like Lennie would often do.