I'm a pilot car driver and just had this setup done with the bill cb. Most people I know in the business just route it through the door jam and under or around seat.
Don’t forget purchasing and using a President antenna with a President radio will extend the radio warranty to 5 years when registering the radio for warranty, I use the Maryland with my Richard and Iowa with my Ronald but both antennas are mounted on perm antenna mounts with RG8X, keep in mind the longer the antenna is you will get better RX(receive) & TX(transmit) range.
I am surprised you two did not go with GMRS radio. I have been researching extensively to try and find the most common radio's used in today's offroad/overland scene and from what I gather it is either HAM or GMRS and people are going away from CB. That being said I did just purchase a CB because some local clubs I am looking to join do use CB and HAM. The cool thing about a Beofeng VHF/UHF radio is that I can broadcast and receive on the HAM and GMRS system as long as I have a license of course. So BOOM BANG! Got the CB covered and the GMRS and the HAM.
Yea that might be the way to go. We are trying to run all 3 to have as much flexibility as possible on group rides. I’m hoping that CB radios go away and HAM is the dominant communication source. Only time will tell. Thanks.
@@rallypoint1 that is correct. too much power going into the gmrs freq's. even with a gmrs license it is still not legal. technically. thanks for posting this so everyone knows the rules.
@@AdventureBuilt I appreciate the content, but I have to disagree with this take. I am all in favor of having as many options for open communication, plus I like that my CB is not licensed. I also have an amateur radio license since 2016 because I want as many options as I can get. KI7DBV
Which ever one of you was in the military , thank you for your service! Also for being in the military, I hope you weren’t the radio man. Good luck with you amateur CB Radio installation.
Thank you very much and he definitely was not the radio guy. I’m pretty sure Trevor and I together could solve any overland issue, except radio. We would be hiking to the tops of mountains to hell to each other. 😂😂😂😂😂
Any comms is better than no comms, but I would really encourage you guys to get your technician HAM licenses. Arizona has some of the nicest mountain top repeaters with incredible coverage for most of the best wheeling spots. And when you add in the linked repeaters you can extend the range even further. Yep, it requires passing a test, but there is a ton of resources on the web and test study guides for your smartphones that will quickly get you through the question pool. I'm not bashing CB, but at the end of the day the range is going to be line of sight and maybe a bit better than FRS / GMRS, but not much if not equal. There are some repeaters on GMRS, but very limited coverage compared to the HAM repeaters. The one thing you will get on CB is info on why your highway route home is messed up. Just be sure the kids can't hear their colorful on-air description the mess from the truckers. Ever try to get back to Phoenix on Interstate 17 on a Sunday afternoon? Better bring the iPad with a couple of movies loaded. I run with mainly Ham 2m/70cm, but have a GMRS and CB in the rig too. Nice to be able to talk to anybody on the trail regardless of what radio they have.
I 💯 agree. We have decided that in group ride situations you never know what system people are gonna show up with. We are starting with CB but going to expect to GMRS and HAM in the near future. Thanks.
Running CB and a handheld. I'll get my HAM license eventually. I cheated on my CB and had a professional tune it 🤣. Rocking a cobra with a four foot whip.
This is more for the folks watching your videos, but what you guys did technically wasn’t “tuning” the antenna. Honestly you could have skipped that part cause your antennas weren’t tunable antennas. Tuning it is where you determine the SWR on channels 1 & 40 and lengthening or shortening the antenna based on which channel has the higher SWR to make them equal. Now it is a good thing to check it just to make sure you’re not frying your radio. I’ve read through all the comments and here’s what I can tell you or “suggest”. If you want to keep the CB’s, invest in some small RM Italy amps. Technically not legal by FCC rules, but the FCC goes after “abusers” of the radio, not really people who operate responsibly “out of bounds.” Most anybody running a CB (aside from the wannabe southerners who just put it in their squatted Chevy as a novelty piece) runs an amp and has never seen an FCC employee. Mine runs about 75-100 watts and I can talk to people 8-10 miles away with all sorts of obstacles and terrain between us. Line of sight would be much much further. I know everyone has already suggested GMRS and Ham, but I’ll expand on what they are saying. I have an Icom 2730A in my Jeep which is a dual band 2m/70cm radio. The good thing about those bands is they are the most common bands for repeaters, so you should have plenty of options for long distance talking, and a damn good dual band antenna is going to be far shorter than a damn good CB antenna. The reason is because an antenna needs to resonate at either 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, or sometimes even 7/8 wavelength of the frequency you’re on, with 1/4 wave being the most common. So CB is on 11m band which means that your antenna needs to be 1/4 of 11m (36ft) which is about a 9ft antenna. That’s why you see the 102” whips cause with a 6” spring they come out to 108”, or 9ft. So when you start shortening the physical length and replicating the length “electrically”, you’re compromising a bit of performance. So that being said, on the 2m band, 1/4 wavelength is roughly 19” and 70cm band is roughly 6.5”. And their antenna generally resonate together so that’s why you can run both frequencies on the same antenna. Also, most dual band mobile radios can be modified to transmit on FRS (regular walkie talkie channels), GMRS, and MURS. Yes, your wattages will be way over what FCC allows, but again, it’s about abusers, not users out of bounds. It’s called the “MARS mod” for most radios. But that’s only to transmit. Most dual bands out of the box will at a minimum let you hear those frequencies, you just have to modify to be able to transmit. I recommend getting your tech license, learn the basics of how radios and repeaters work so that you’re not pissing off other hams and radio users, and as long as you do that no one will care that you’re running slightly higher power.
Wow man that is a ton of great info. I have tried to learn about radios and let’s be honest. This shit is way over my head. It makes my head hurt most times. I really appreciate you going in-depth and I know you will be helping a lot of people out. Except me, mainly because I don’t think that is even English. Haha. Thanks again.
Trevor and I will eventually have all the systems CB, GMRS and HAM since everyone seems to run different systems. If I was smarter I would just use HAM it definitely is not a majority thing yet.
While this formula isn't always a "given", when it comes to CB: Short antenna = short range (especially the 19" model). Different (i.e.- better/longer) antennas will get you decent results. Nice install video 👍
From my research you have to calibrate the antenna on channel 1 and 40 to ensure that all channels in between are working at max efficiency. If SWR is high on ch. 1 add length to the antenna, if SWR is low on ch.1 and high on ch.40, shorten antenna length. 1mm increments up or down. However if you're getting satisfactory results on what you just did then so be it. Great mounting options I learned something.
Complete noob here *100% noob* my pres Andy 2 has a warning on wires saying it must be connected to my vehicles battery. Can I ignore that if I'm going the cigarette lighter route?,
I’m a trucker and the cobra 29LX has a swr adjuster installed in the unit.
Pretty solid CB 🤙
Love the genuine honesty
Thank you so much!!!
I'm a pilot car driver and just had this setup done with the bill cb. Most people I know in the business just route it through the door jam and under or around seat.
Don’t forget purchasing and using a President antenna with a President radio will extend the radio warranty to 5 years when registering the radio for warranty, I use the Maryland with my Richard and Iowa with my Ronald but both antennas are mounted on perm antenna mounts with RG8X, keep in mind the longer the antenna is you will get better RX(receive) & TX(transmit) range.
FWD is forward power.
REF is Reflected power.
SWR is the ratio of forward to reflected power.
Forward power is good.
Reflected power is bad.
I am surprised you two did not go with GMRS radio. I have been researching extensively to try and find the most common radio's used in today's offroad/overland scene and from what I gather it is either HAM or GMRS and people are going away from CB. That being said I did just purchase a CB because some local clubs I am looking to join do use CB and HAM. The cool thing about a Beofeng VHF/UHF radio is that I can broadcast and receive on the HAM and GMRS system as long as I have a license of course. So BOOM BANG! Got the CB covered and the GMRS and the HAM.
Yea that might be the way to go. We are trying to run all 3 to have as much flexibility as possible on group rides. I’m hoping that CB radios go away and HAM is the dominant communication source. Only time will tell. Thanks.
You cannot legally transmit GMRS on a Baofeng. Not saying you shouldn’t but the FCC says no.
@@rallypoint1 that is correct. too much power going into the gmrs freq's. even with a gmrs license it is still not legal. technically. thanks for posting this so everyone knows the rules.
@@AdventureBuilt I appreciate the content, but I have to disagree with this take. I am all in favor of having as many options for open communication, plus I like that my CB is not licensed. I also have an amateur radio license since 2016 because I want as many options as I can get. KI7DBV
Which ever one of you was in the military , thank you for your service!
Also for being in the military, I hope you weren’t the radio man.
Good luck with you amateur CB Radio installation.
Thank you very much and he definitely was not the radio guy. I’m pretty sure Trevor and I together could solve any overland issue, except radio. We would be hiking to the tops of mountains to hell to each other. 😂😂😂😂😂
this man got mounts all over his vehicle
Any comms is better than no comms, but I would really encourage you guys to get your technician HAM licenses. Arizona has some of the nicest mountain top repeaters with incredible coverage for most of the best wheeling spots. And when you add in the linked repeaters you can extend the range even further. Yep, it requires passing a test, but there is a ton of resources on the web and test study guides for your smartphones that will quickly get you through the question pool.
I'm not bashing CB, but at the end of the day the range is going to be line of sight and maybe a bit better than FRS / GMRS, but not much if not equal. There are some repeaters on GMRS, but very limited coverage compared to the HAM repeaters. The one thing you will get on CB is info on why your highway route home is messed up. Just be sure the kids can't hear their colorful on-air description the mess from the truckers. Ever try to get back to Phoenix on Interstate 17 on a Sunday afternoon? Better bring the iPad with a couple of movies loaded.
I run with mainly Ham 2m/70cm, but have a GMRS and CB in the rig too. Nice to be able to talk to anybody on the trail regardless of what radio they have.
I 💯 agree. We have decided that in group ride situations you never know what system people are gonna show up with. We are starting with CB but going to expect to GMRS and HAM in the near future. Thanks.
I wouldn't mind having a president CB radio in my truck, i also have a dual band UHF/VHF transceiver since im also a licensed amateur radio operator.
Running CB and a handheld. I'll get my HAM license eventually. I cheated on my CB and had a professional tune it 🤣. Rocking a cobra with a four foot whip.
That may have been a better way to go because we still are only getting about a mile out of the CB even with line of site.
At what speed will the President antena blow off at ?
It’s a pretty legit magnet on the base and never had an issue. Of course I’ve never gotten over 80mph.
What power connection options are there for AC socket, for solar panels, car batteries, car cigaret socket, power pank, ...?
This is more for the folks watching your videos, but what you guys did technically wasn’t “tuning” the antenna. Honestly you could have skipped that part cause your antennas weren’t tunable antennas. Tuning it is where you determine the SWR on channels 1 & 40 and lengthening or shortening the antenna based on which channel has the higher SWR to make them equal. Now it is a good thing to check it just to make sure you’re not frying your radio.
I’ve read through all the comments and here’s what I can tell you or “suggest”. If you want to keep the CB’s, invest in some small RM Italy amps. Technically not legal by FCC rules, but the FCC goes after “abusers” of the radio, not really people who operate responsibly “out of bounds.” Most anybody running a CB (aside from the wannabe southerners who just put it in their squatted Chevy as a novelty piece) runs an amp and has never seen an FCC employee. Mine runs about 75-100 watts and I can talk to people 8-10 miles away with all sorts of obstacles and terrain between us. Line of sight would be much much further.
I know everyone has already suggested GMRS and Ham, but I’ll expand on what they are saying. I have an Icom 2730A in my Jeep which is a dual band 2m/70cm radio. The good thing about those bands is they are the most common bands for repeaters, so you should have plenty of options for long distance talking, and a damn good dual band antenna is going to be far shorter than a damn good CB antenna. The reason is because an antenna needs to resonate at either 1/4, 1/2, 5/8, or sometimes even 7/8 wavelength of the frequency you’re on, with 1/4 wave being the most common. So CB is on 11m band which means that your antenna needs to be 1/4 of 11m (36ft) which is about a 9ft antenna. That’s why you see the 102” whips cause with a 6” spring they come out to 108”, or 9ft. So when you start shortening the physical length and replicating the length “electrically”, you’re compromising a bit of performance. So that being said, on the 2m band, 1/4 wavelength is roughly 19” and 70cm band is roughly 6.5”. And their antenna generally resonate together so that’s why you can run both frequencies on the same antenna.
Also, most dual band mobile radios can be modified to transmit on FRS (regular walkie talkie channels), GMRS, and MURS. Yes, your wattages will be way over what FCC allows, but again, it’s about abusers, not users out of bounds. It’s called the “MARS mod” for most radios. But that’s only to transmit. Most dual bands out of the box will at a minimum let you hear those frequencies, you just have to modify to be able to transmit. I recommend getting your tech license, learn the basics of how radios and repeaters work so that you’re not pissing off other hams and radio users, and as long as you do that no one will care that you’re running slightly higher power.
Wow man that is a ton of great info. I have tried to learn about radios and let’s be honest. This shit is way over my head. It makes my head hurt most times. I really appreciate you going in-depth and I know you will be helping a lot of people out. Except me, mainly because I don’t think that is even English. Haha. Thanks again.
REF stands for Reflected Power returning back to the radio...NOT reference!
Good info. Thank you.
Why not GMRS? I run Midland.
Trevor and I will eventually have all the systems CB, GMRS and HAM since everyone seems to run different systems. If I was smarter I would just use HAM it definitely is not a majority thing yet.
Let’s do it!
Wouldn't it cause radio noise through the cigarette lighter
Didn’t experience any of that luckily.
While this formula isn't always a "given", when it comes to CB: Short antenna = short range (especially the 19" model). Different (i.e.- better/longer) antennas will get you decent results. Nice install video 👍
Thank you and good to know.
Those radios come with swr meters inside the radio. Maybe you should of read the manuals. And they are spot on. Also you need to tune those antennas
Well we did read the manual and that is where we got the info that we needed the swr meter and had to tune the antenna. Thanks for the tip though.
The Bill does not have a meter installed
From my research you have to calibrate the antenna on channel 1 and 40 to ensure that all channels in between are working at max efficiency. If SWR is high on ch. 1 add length to the antenna, if SWR is low on ch.1 and high on ch.40, shorten antenna length. 1mm increments up or down. However if you're getting satisfactory results on what you just did then so be it. Great mounting options I learned something.
Good to know. Thank you.
President antenna is pretune to the middle of the cb band........
Video good like always 👊🏼💪🏼
Thank you very much.
The term goodbuddy is for homosexuals keep in mind.
Tell that to Smokey and the Bandit!!!!
@@AdventureBuilt over the years the term HAS taken on a new meaning, so BipolarBear is correct.
Complete noob here *100% noob* my pres Andy 2 has a warning on wires saying it must be connected to my vehicles battery. Can I ignore that if I'm going the cigarette lighter route?,