It's so cool that Dart Zone loved your review so much that they wanted to see what you could do to maximize performance. I doubt they'll make a stock blaster that'll hit that hard, but it gives them insight on what modders will do and what their customer base wants.
they said in the podcast that legally they CAN'T let it hit harder because over 200fps+ it becomes an airsoft gun (and that has a lot of different paperwork and can't be sold to under 18 year olds)
@@legomeaker101potato That's rather interesting, and it does make sense. I'm guessing that's why they build their blasters to be relatively easy to mod.
I remember back when 300+ FPS was only achievable with something like Drac's pressure sniper, which could fire a dart like once per 15 seconds. Now we have this absolute lunacy, which can do a similar powered shot like 2 times a second! Ridiculous! Buuuut extremely cool.
Exactly! Imagine if it's, like, a huge sniper rifle-looking blaster, probably the one that looks like Barrett 50 cal, that hits 120 FPS with low power spring and up to 300-350 FPS with high power spring? Maybe it can take full-length darts and half-darts, and can shoot mega darts, rival rounds, and ultra rounds from the muzzle like Nexus Pro? I would kill for that.
So people were pointing out the similarities between the internals of the DZP Mk 4 and those of the Worker Swift...and now I'm inclined to believe that may have been intentional. Dart Zone might have made that design decision because they wanted it to work with components that already exist on the aftermarket!
I have even more respect for dartzone now. The fact that they wholeheartedly accepted that their blaster could be better and did even better then just making it better themselves and re-releasing it. They paid *you* to make it better so people at home could follow along. Absolute. Effing. Legends!
On a side note: we NEED to make a regulated fan competition that makes room for >500 FPS shooting blasters. The hobby may be getting to a point where hitting 100 - 150 FPS is starting to be poor performance (and standard propietary Nerf guns are basically kids initiation to the hobby, or Veterans platform for modifications).
I personally don't like this escalation in the hobby. The higher the FPS cap, the higher the barrier of entry. Imagine some eleven-year-old showing up to a battle with a stock Motoblitz and getting trashed by some adult with a modded DZP Mk.2, that wouldn't be much fun. Yeah, you could give them a loaner to even the playing field, but do we really want kids running around with 200 FPS blasters? That said, with the increasing controversy around actual firearms, and seeing some of those tactical trends trickle into the hobby, maybe it's best if foam blasting is just for adults after all 😥
@@BoardGamesBricksHobbies hence why I pointed out the word "regulated", meaning that in the competition itself a high FPS is allowed, however (at least in my point of view) that doesn't mean we're going to bunch them altogether; of course we need to classify them properly so that there's, for example, a 70-100 FPS bracket, a 101 - 150 bracket, a 151 - 200 bracket and so on so there's little to no necessity of intentionally downgrading the FPS of a blaster. And of course this inherently means putting an age restriction cap on certain FPS levels.
@@elementxxrider Understood. I just remember the first time I went to an event (which was as an adult, I might add) nobody communicated any of that to me. So I showed up with my stock Nemesis and got wrecked by people using NIC-style blasters and half darts. It was not a very welcoming initial exposure to the community.
@@BoardGamesBricksHobbies certainly understandable. But no worries, if we happen to do such an event I'll try to see to it that it gets proper and fair regulations so that every blaster wielder has a fair chance of winning regardless of the FPS.
It's like this in all the gun sports. Paintball airsoft. Technology improvements.When adults with money are playing they generally have the best gear on the field in any sport really but in these games it give a huge advantage. It is what it is. I always just got decent stuff second hand to even the playing field a lil bit. Kids play paintball too and the usual limit is 300fps
Dart Zone is the best company ever. If you'd have asked me pre nexus pro I'd have said we'd never be able to buy short darts at a retail store. If you'd have asked me three days ago if a company would sponsor a mod video I would have passed myself laughing and asked if you were crazy. I'm now passing myself with amazement.
Most powerful springer on the channel so far is the mega dart sniper thing that was on here. 220fps with a mega accustrike dart (2.6g) is 4.34 lb/ft 355 with a short dart (1g) is 4.13 lb/ft So it narrowley beats the MK4 out. Impressive numbers nonetheless, really brings home what you said in the original vid about the plunger volume being the same as the Swift, as the Swift with the 1.8 spring was good for 360fps as well, mine dod it with the standard metal plunger though. Slap an 18kg spring in the M20 you got kicking around there somewhere and you'll be up around 370 though, without having to break out the dremel. 😂
@@shatteredskies191 in which case the gap is considerably bigger between the two, and the Ranger (I think it's called) will be possibly over 400fps on a single short dart, assuming the re-barreling doesn't cause power loss.
Generally, springer tuning is just making sure you arent completely solid in the back with the spring, and slowly chopping an inch or so of material until you stop getting performance gains/start loosing fps. The scar makes up a bit for your FPS loss on tuning because of the small barrel length increase, despite friction from the rifling.
I know exactly what's up. Dart Zone know full well what the MK4 is capable of, and they had to design it this way to conform to regulations. It's already pushong the upper bound of "toy", and adding the SCAR to the FPS barrel would make it a "sporting goods" item. They want to beef it up even more, but they can't. That's why they paid the Fuzzy Walrus to show us how it's done.
Nerf Clone Dart Throwe Maker: *Throws Money* Make it better. Mod it. Dart Thrower Modder: Oh. Okay. Uhm. *two weeks later* DTM: And here is a Modded version of a standard gun. But, this one can hurl a dart half a mile and hit a target with pinpoint accuracy. As long as you're not a crap shot as me. Nerf Clone Dart Throwe Maker: And this is what money buys you. Love it!
Great. So a mod to the barrel to have the scar and accuracy improved. If that was originally from the "box". The MK4 can be call the "sniper" blaster from DZ. DZ is time to start working on "modular" ideas for the MK4 revisions. Also I want to see a Coop video with a lot barrels. 😂
Nice to see DZ actually paying you to max out their offering. All things considered, I'll stick wiht my swift though. Reasons? Cheaper, especially living in the uk as I do. Better Aesthetics, (though that's personal choice of course), and finally, all I had to do was swap the o-rings, put the longer barrel and 1,8 spring in to hit 330fps max. Oh, I would take issue wiht the "lighter plunger=higher fps" idea. Jury's out on that. Anecdotally, my brassed Sentinel went from 170 to 230 when I had to replace the last part of the plunger with an aluminium replacement. Science to be done there. Maybe try the MK4 with the original plunger? I'd put money on higher performance.
Awesomeness pure awesomeness n can't wait for us Aussies to be able to get our hands on some as Aussie NERF sniper life is the best life lol, one of our locals got his Valkyrie above 370 just the other day so I can't emphasize enough that that blaster there will become a board buster like my 380 swift wich broke my digital target
Hey Walcom, are you keeping track of the score your blasters get on your indoor range? I actually think it's a very nice metric to measure similar types of blasters together, or at least against the top dogs. Pretty sure this modded MK 4 is one of the highest I've seen!
I'd really like them to release an updated muzzle extension that could connect to itself if you had two or more so you could just get an obnoxiously long barrel much like Coop did with all the modulas barrels.
Since you moved the front collar on the barrel extension, that inner barrel might not have been perfectly aligned anymore. That may have been why you had to aim high right to hit the center of the target after the mods.
Nice video except for one part: please put the part you are drilling into a clamp or vise, it is easily possible to slip the bit and drop it into your hand. Yes it makes it harder to do but your hands are valuable and I like your channel too much for you to permanently harm yourself. My boss’s son in law just put a drill it into his wrist a few weeks ago and damn near bled out.
More likely it was to encourage fence-sitters and nay-sayers ("Just get a Harrier" ) to understand this blaster was intended to be user-customized and extended to a degree that had not previously done before.
So modified it’s basically a half dart caliburn? Accuracy is still meh but not bad. I like that when you take the priming grip off it has pic rail underneath.
I was looking for a injection molded springer 200+ fps but some day I want to mod it to hit over 300+ fps what do you recommend I like either pump action or bolt action Game face trion for 80$ Worker swift for 162 dollars Kirin for 225 dollars Dart zone pro mk 4 for 180 dollars Blaize s100s for 200 dollars
Game face trion can't react that number so don't even try. Kirin is too expensive so I wouldn't recommend unless you really like the shell ejecting gimmick. About Blaize I heard there's some problem with with the internals, you have to tune it a lot to make it shoot decently (watch Bradley Phillips video) That leaves you with the Swift and the MK4. Honestly they have pretty much the same internal with different shells. Choose which one that you can get access to easier I guess
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Hasbro: NO! You cant just take apart our blasters, it *ILLEGAL*!
dart zone: show my ya moves!
Walcom:
*makes essentially a nerf anti-material rifle*
Also Walcom:
"eh, its alright. It's a good start"
Great video dude!
Yeah
It's so cool that Dart Zone loved your review so much that they wanted to see what you could do to maximize performance. I doubt they'll make a stock blaster that'll hit that hard, but it gives them insight on what modders will do and what their customer base wants.
they said in the podcast that legally they CAN'T let it hit harder because over 200fps+ it becomes an airsoft gun (and that has a lot of different paperwork and can't be sold to under 18 year olds)
@@legomeaker101potato That's rather interesting, and it does make sense. I'm guessing that's why they build their blasters to be relatively easy to mod.
@@legomeaker101potatoare you sure that this is a actual law?
@@randomdudethatplaysviolaon1903 they talk about that in the mk4 podcast at minute 41, after 200 it becomes an airgun
@@legomeaker101potato damn that really sucks, in my opinion the FPS Cap should be At least 260.
Take notes, hasbro
They won’t lol
lol I think I'd have a heart attack the day Nerf ever paid for a mod video
This dead horse sure dies hard
Hasbro's notes:
Step 1, 180 dollar blasters. Step 2, profit
It's not their Brand. Franchises and .Jr are their market.
Trust me, Walcom, you're doing them a favor. They knew that it could perform that well. They also cannot ship a blaster that powerful.
That mod to put the SCAR on the extended barrel is PERFECT.
Performance matches the length of this beast now. Well done Spitifire Products and thanks for the video, Walcom!
didn’t expect to see you here
@@crazygamerkasten9748this guy is everywhere lol 😂
I remember back when 300+ FPS was only achievable with something like Drac's pressure sniper, which could fire a dart like once per 15 seconds. Now we have this absolute lunacy, which can do a similar powered shot like 2 times a second! Ridiculous! Buuuut extremely cool.
Respect to dart zone. Can only wonder if a Mk 4.1 will be in the works.
Exactly! Imagine if it's, like, a huge sniper rifle-looking blaster, probably the one that looks like Barrett 50 cal, that hits 120 FPS with low power spring and up to 300-350 FPS with high power spring? Maybe it can take full-length darts and half-darts, and can shoot mega darts, rival rounds, and ultra rounds from the muzzle like Nexus Pro? I would kill for that.
They can't officially go above two hundred
But they're sneaking Through. somehow
I am excited for the 4.1
@The King from Clash Royale actually had my mouth watering reading that
And then they join the airsoft community
@@firetroop2775 Yeah, by overbuilding their products and trusting the community to take it from there.
A company for the community.
So people were pointing out the similarities between the internals of the DZP Mk 4 and those of the Worker Swift...and now I'm inclined to believe that may have been intentional. Dart Zone might have made that design decision because they wanted it to work with components that already exist on the aftermarket!
Goodness me what a monster of a thing! 350 is beyond anything I've used. I shot myself with 250 point blank and I can't imagine more.
Walcom getting recognition from Dart Zone! Way to go man, that's actually amazing
So cool DZ did that. I love how they're sending out fixes for the Deuce Pro now too. So much so I bought a second one today lol.
Holy moly that power and the accuracy too.
The XShot LongShot is out and is looking pretty good. Woulx love to see your take on it!❤️❤️❤️
we meet again lol.
It's not out anywhere near the US yet.
@@abquintic oh
Bloody british
@@abquintic It will be in Target for $29.99 within the next week.
@@TheSybermedic citation
Seen you mod shit hundreds of times now and yet I'm still always wowed watching a new one
Congratulations man. What a cool thing to be in dart zones line if sight
Am impressed they asked and paid for it, but well done getting it out so fast!
Side note, I miss the out-tro music and footage from your vids.
Dear lord those chronograph numbers are um impressive
Exactly the same as the Swift on the 1.8 spring with 550 barrel, so he was correct that it's got the same air volume! 😂
I have even more respect for dartzone now. The fact that they wholeheartedly accepted that their blaster could be better and did even better then just making it better themselves and re-releasing it.
They paid *you* to make it better so people at home could follow along. Absolute. Effing. Legends!
On a side note: we NEED to make a regulated fan competition that makes room for >500 FPS shooting blasters. The hobby may be getting to a point where hitting 100 - 150 FPS is starting to be poor performance (and standard propietary Nerf guns are basically kids initiation to the hobby, or Veterans platform for modifications).
I personally don't like this escalation in the hobby. The higher the FPS cap, the higher the barrier of entry. Imagine some eleven-year-old showing up to a battle with a stock Motoblitz and getting trashed by some adult with a modded DZP Mk.2, that wouldn't be much fun. Yeah, you could give them a loaner to even the playing field, but do we really want kids running around with 200 FPS blasters?
That said, with the increasing controversy around actual firearms, and seeing some of those tactical trends trickle into the hobby, maybe it's best if foam blasting is just for adults after all 😥
@@BoardGamesBricksHobbies hence why I pointed out the word "regulated", meaning that in the competition itself a high FPS is allowed, however (at least in my point of view) that doesn't mean we're going to bunch them altogether; of course we need to classify them properly so that there's, for example, a 70-100 FPS bracket, a 101 - 150 bracket, a 151 - 200 bracket and so on so there's little to no necessity of intentionally downgrading the FPS of a blaster. And of course this inherently means putting an age restriction cap on certain FPS levels.
@@elementxxrider Understood. I just remember the first time I went to an event (which was as an adult, I might add) nobody communicated any of that to me. So I showed up with my stock Nemesis and got wrecked by people using NIC-style blasters and half darts. It was not a very welcoming initial exposure to the community.
@@BoardGamesBricksHobbies certainly understandable. But no worries, if we happen to do such an event I'll try to see to it that it gets proper and fair regulations so that every blaster wielder has a fair chance of winning regardless of the FPS.
It's like this in all the gun sports. Paintball airsoft. Technology improvements.When adults with money are playing they generally have the best gear on the field in any sport really but in these games it give a huge advantage. It is what it is. I always just got decent stuff second hand to even the playing field a lil bit. Kids play paintball too and the usual limit is 300fps
Dart Zone is the best company ever. If you'd have asked me pre nexus pro I'd have said we'd never be able to buy short darts at a retail store. If you'd have asked me three days ago if a company would sponsor a mod video I would have passed myself laughing and asked if you were crazy. I'm now passing myself with amazement.
Most powerful springer on the channel so far is the mega dart sniper thing that was on here.
220fps with a mega accustrike dart (2.6g) is 4.34 lb/ft
355 with a short dart (1g) is 4.13 lb/ft
So it narrowley beats the MK4 out.
Impressive numbers nonetheless, really brings home what you said in the original vid about the plunger volume being the same as the Swift, as the Swift with the 1.8 spring was good for 360fps as well, mine dod it with the standard metal plunger though.
Slap an 18kg spring in the M20 you got kicking around there somewhere and you'll be up around 370 though, without having to break out the dremel. 😂
I find that mega accustrike darts (at least the aftermarket ones) weigh about 3.3 grams
@@shatteredskies191 in which case the gap is considerably bigger between the two, and the Ranger (I think it's called) will be possibly over 400fps on a single short dart, assuming the re-barreling doesn't cause power loss.
Super paid improvement video - what a concept. Wow you created a monster FPS springer!
It's very cool that Prime Time told you to go for it on modding.
Love how quick he did this
Great video. Can’t wait to see what people come up with
Allways love the one step from eden bg music. You a real one for that
That’s an outstanding shot grouping.
That’s one hell of a long prime! I like it.
Excellent video. These are the nitty gritty ones we need.
This is why I watch, thank you for this video
its crazy how that thing could be used in airsoft and do perfectly fine
Generally, springer tuning is just making sure you arent completely solid in the back with the spring, and slowly chopping an inch or so of material until you stop getting performance gains/start loosing fps. The scar makes up a bit for your FPS loss on tuning because of the small barrel length increase, despite friction from the rifling.
This is a very helpful video. Thanks walcom!
After careful consideration put my order in for a blue limited edition and also grabbed a 1.8 spring, the barracks arent ready for this monster 😈
Dart Zone: Write that down! Write that down!
I love how the MK-4 literally uses Swift internals, that's how it's rock solid.
thanks walcom, MK4 is a beast with minimal tuning
I know exactly what's up. Dart Zone know full well what the MK4 is capable of, and they had to design it this way to conform to regulations. It's already pushong the upper bound of "toy", and adding the SCAR to the FPS barrel would make it a "sporting goods" item.
They want to beef it up even more, but they can't. That's why they paid the Fuzzy Walrus to show us how it's done.
Nerf Clone Dart Throwe Maker: *Throws Money* Make it better. Mod it.
Dart Thrower Modder: Oh. Okay. Uhm.
*two weeks later*
DTM: And here is a Modded version of a standard gun. But, this one can hurl a dart half a mile and hit a target with pinpoint accuracy. As long as you're not a crap shot as me.
Nerf Clone Dart Throwe Maker: And this is what money buys you. Love it!
Great. So a mod to the barrel to have the scar and accuracy improved. If that was originally from the "box". The MK4 can be call the "sniper" blaster from DZ.
DZ is time to start working on "modular" ideas for the MK4 revisions. Also I want to see a Coop video with a lot barrels. 😂
Nice to see DZ actually paying you to max out their offering. All things considered, I'll stick wiht my swift though. Reasons? Cheaper, especially living in the uk as I do. Better Aesthetics, (though that's personal choice of course), and finally, all I had to do was swap the o-rings, put the longer barrel and 1,8 spring in to hit 330fps max. Oh, I would take issue wiht the "lighter plunger=higher fps" idea. Jury's out on that. Anecdotally, my brassed Sentinel went from 170 to 230 when I had to replace the last part of the plunger with an aluminium replacement. Science to be done there. Maybe try the MK4 with the original plunger? I'd put money on higher performance.
I cant wait to do this to my mk4 it adds to the whole railgun aessthetic the mk4 4 has to me
Nice slug slym. Just picked some up. Also I wish that dartzone woulda used lighter metal similar to what saber did for the harrier.
Awesomeness pure awesomeness n can't wait for us Aussies to be able to get our hands on some as Aussie NERF sniper life is the best life lol, one of our locals got his Valkyrie above 370 just the other day so I can't emphasize enough that that blaster there will become a board buster like my 380 swift wich broke my digital target
Good Lord. I thought you were gonna drill through your hand. 3:57
What an awesome blaster!
lol that prime stroke is so long. Love seeing the mod though, good stuff.
Great job! Ordering today!
I need this blaster in my life.
Glad a company actually cares about their fans
Hey Walcom, are you keeping track of the score your blasters get on your indoor range? I actually think it's a very nice metric to measure similar types of blasters together, or at least against the top dogs. Pretty sure this modded MK 4 is one of the highest I've seen!
Something like a categorized online scoreboard for all the blasters paced on the target would be neat.
@@Anino_Makata Yes! Sort of like coop does lately with his fps chart
the MK-5 after dartzone sees this video is gonna be SPICY
I'd really like them to release an updated muzzle extension that could connect to itself if you had two or more so you could just get an obnoxiously long barrel much like Coop did with all the modulas barrels.
bro turned a kids toy in to a high powered airsoft sniper rifle.
Great video
I think Dart Zone can sell longer barrels and upgrade kits like Worker
That would be cool.
The DZP MK-4 is a 200 fps blaster, in the same way the Nissan r32 GTR had 276 HP.
9:51 you said 308 another good number, is that in reference to the band 308?
So effing cool that dart zone encouraged you to do this mod… hasbro who? 😂😂😂
It's cool to see a nerdy guy like walcom doing mod stuff.
Amazing 🤩 I love your video sir 👍
I bought it a while ago when does it ship?
Dart Zone I already pre-ordered the blue Mk 4. Make an extended barrel with a built in Scar for the Mk 4 pls and ty
I can't wait to get one of these... Even though it won't happen.
Hopefully, Dart Zone takes the feedback and releases a v4.1 that makes use of a scar and has a tighter air seal.
With high power blasters you need to do an accuracy test at 30 yards. Pick up a Flag and Armor Bearing SCAR 10° and Worker HE Darts
Dart zone specifically told you to? I think I'm starting to realize that a corporation can be loved too...
Wow, that's pretty spicy!
I’m not sure if I find this or that mega dart sniper more impressive
Could you please give the dart zone mk4 The correct barrel length and spring upgrade please
Changing my name to Southern Brisbane Dart Zone Club. SBDZC has a ring to it.
Welp I’ll keep this in mind in case I find my self a Mk 4
Its $180 so if you do good luck
Is this the beginning of a Dart Zone + Spitfire products Collab/compatibility deal? If it is, I'm digging it.
As far as I know spitfire made these parts for the swift and the mk4 is just almost identical internally
Just received mine in blue👌🏻I’d love to hide a bearing scar in the barrel extension shroud.
Can you smell what the Walcom is cooking
@walcomS7 bro can u tell me what spring did u use? Thanks
is it possible to use Prophecy XPT-compatible stocks with the Pro MK4 and vice versa?
Nice LycoReco shirt. Where did you get it?
This thing is a monster
Come to Sydney Nerf in Australia and you would be able to use that no issue. Puts some of the HPA builds to shame.
I liked the 'darn I assume it's pretty High
Since you moved the front collar on the barrel extension, that inner barrel might not have been perfectly aligned anymore. That may have been why you had to aim high right to hit the center of the target after the mods.
I now want one
Nice video except for one part: please put the part you are drilling into a clamp or vise, it is easily possible to slip the bit and drop it into your hand. Yes it makes it harder to do but your hands are valuable and I like your channel too much for you to permanently harm yourself. My boss’s son in law just put a drill it into his wrist a few weeks ago and damn near bled out.
I don’t remember if you said in your review, but how long is it from butt to tip?
GIVE THIS THING A RESIN SABER!!!
Walcom, take the rival pilot, take the weak spring, put a ultra 4 spring in it and it hits significantly better
"I know what im doing in life" like duude i can tell
What ACOG were you using?
dart zone is such a W for community based stuff
Most based discord admin: this dude right here
Whats the over under that Dart Zone paid for this video so they could take some notes for the future models?
More likely it was to encourage fence-sitters and nay-sayers ("Just get a Harrier" ) to understand this blaster was intended to be user-customized and extended to a degree that had not previously done before.
So modified it’s basically a half dart caliburn? Accuracy is still meh but not bad. I like that when you take the priming grip off it has pic rail underneath.
Might as well put the darts inside a brass cartridge seated atop a wad of gunpowder and cap the end with a hollow point tip.
I would be sad if we don’t name it something cool with this mod
I was looking for a injection molded springer 200+ fps but some day I want to mod it to hit over 300+ fps what do you recommend I like either pump action or bolt action
Game face trion for 80$
Worker swift for 162 dollars
Kirin for 225 dollars
Dart zone pro mk 4 for 180 dollars
Blaize s100s for 200 dollars
Game face trion can't react that number so don't even try.
Kirin is too expensive so I wouldn't recommend unless you really like the shell ejecting gimmick.
About Blaize I heard there's some problem with with the internals, you have to tune it a lot to make it shoot decently (watch Bradley Phillips video)
That leaves you with the Swift and the MK4. Honestly they have pretty much the same internal with different shells. Choose which one that you can get access to easier I guess
Did you just mod a springer so that it can reliably and acucrately hit at 100, 130, 150, 100, and 350 fps caps?!
what it is is essancially a pump action sniperriffle now
Is that just the swift 1.8 spring?