Chainsaw sharpening myth. Debunked
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024
- Sharpening a chainsaw is a mystery for many. Here, I abolish one of the biggest chainsaw myths ever and show it cutting right after .. it doesn't get more obvious, that you can stop counting you strokes
It's refreshing to learn from someone who actually knows what he is doing. Old school knowhow can't be faked. Thank you brother.
Want to thank you Billy. Hand filed for last 3 decades and had decided that chain was only NEW sharp once. I could get it very close to that thru the rest of the chains life. Watching your sharpening techniques and advice about removing the Gullet was the missing piece. Thank you sincerely.
Always remain teachable. Best advice I've ever received as a young man. Good for you. Take care.
@@Woodman_Custom_Sawing what's up buddy, hope all is well out your way.
As my signature on the forums reads; "if you're not laughing, loving, and learning, you're not living." From chipper1 😃
It's like Bob Ross teaching you how to properly file your chainsaw. Perfect as usual Buckin!!
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That's a comparison I would never have thought of but Buckin' is a true artist when it comes to power saws and axes 🪓 that is a fact
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Well Said
A few years ago I desperately needed to improve my filing game,After quite a few views and several learning times, I have improved so much ,my saws cut much faster,for all practical purposes ,almost effortless.
Few days back I was cutting with my son ,and he said Dad you gotta show me how your doing this. Made me feel so appreciative,Thanks buckin
This video right here makes me glad I held all my chains that I thought were no good, I have years worth of chains now, The 3 stroke sharpening method left me frustrated until I started watching tour videos. This is so cool... Thanks for all that you do....
camera work on the first chain was spot on.. now I underwstand what you've been driving at.. good work buckin... need a few files now.
This is what I appreciate so much in this channel is the level of compassion, craftsmanship and attention to detail.
Yup, since I tossed the file guide and started doin' my chains Buckin' style my saw has never cut this good before, only getting better too!
Me too. I ruined a chain 12/23 by filing the rakers waaay tooo far down! The saw will snatch into the log and try to bog itself down if you don't hold it back!
It will actually throw a log back at you if you're not careful! But thanks to you Buck , my other chains cut like new and they're 3-5 years old.
Thnx again! Love ya my friend!
I'm going through all your older sharpening vids again for refreshing Buckin. Thank you for taking the time to pass on knowledge. It's nice to be a young buck with a saw that's just flinging long shavings thanks to your content. All love from North Carolina
Buckin. Your right about people spreading the word to count your strokes. I went to the Stihl small engine shop the other day to pick up a raker gauge and out of curiosity i asked the guy what was the best way to sharpen the chain. He told me to look for the worst tooth and file it and count the strokes . Then file the rest of the teeth the same amount of strokes . I did not argue with the guy i just let him go . As i know that your the man with the experience and the know how i believe you 100%. Cheers Buckin.
Graham, that is exactly how the Stihl factory manual describes how to file. I'm with Billy, it's the relationship with the depth gauge (raker) that matters most.
It’s fantastic when someone physically sees this happen. Before this channel I had never dressed a bar or messed with rakers much. Thank you for all of the tips and tricks on filing. Love to you and the family❤️
I love how you keep a positive attitude! Only been watching your channel for a while, but have been in your shoes and look forward to your enthusiasm for doing what you love!!
This is your best "get the gullet" upload, yet, Buckin'. Deadly and informative to the max. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and good vibes.
Actually I used to be one that would count my strokes when sharpening my chain until I stumbled on to your channel. Your technique made sense to me so I tried it and boy were you right. Made 100% difference and made my firewood cutting alot more uniform and more fun to cut
Love your thoughts and knowledge. I’ve always been the same way. Never counted strokes always go by the feel of the tooth. Much love Buckin.
First - I hate using a file because they dull so quickly and I always use a Dremel with a chain saw arbor to cut my chains. I always make sure that the edge is sharpened "onto" the edge and not try to sharpen the edge with the tool coming off the edge. Kinda hard to explain, but a barber once taught me that you always sharpen the edge "ON" the tool and not "OFF.
The biggest improvement in chains that I recently "discovered" was a gap-toothed chain and I can say that it really REALLY cuts fast and furiously!
The true test will be when I have to sharpen it.
Love you enthusiasm!
I have erred on the side of not filing enough trying to save the metal in the chain! But watching that edge appear as you filed helps a lot. You know, I learned filing by myself and watching others file but not understanding what they were trying to achieve! Showing how to do it helps a lot, thanks for the knowledge!
Buckin' alittle over a year ago i started watching your wonderful channel and I haven't missed a video since! But I picked up the likes of running a powersaw from watching your videos and my first saw was a 272 husqvarna my dad gave me and I got it back to running and sharpened it and went to cut some with it and by the time I got half way through it it went all sideways haha then I looked up some of your filing videos and thanks to you I learned how to file a powersaw! Thanks for all you do and the wonderful messages you share! LOVE WINS!!!
Hey Buckin! I have never commented on your videos but I wanted to thank you for making them. I have learned so much from sharpening my chains to making my axe handles look and feel so much better. You rock!!!
It makes sense when you think about how the chain reacts once power is applied,how the depth gauge and then the cutting tooth interact with the wood. Curving cuts are from worn bar rails. Usually from pushing too hard on the bar during the cut and/or running the chain too tight add in a little never flip the bar either. Thanks BBR
An honest man helping others improve! I’ve learnt so much from you buckin it’s crazy!! I built a bunker myself today, nothing like yours but it’s a bunker!! Lol, bought a 266xp the other day that’s giving me some terrible trouble.. now to figure this thing out! Have a great day everyone be kind.
All my saws cut like a hot knife through butter thanks to you Buckin. A little practice but it’s really all in the feel of the file. Once you learn that, it smooth cuttin from here on out.
Dear all of the people who disliked this video why are you disliking someone else’s passion to teach and help change the world I love ya all friends
love takes some time to melt fear my friend
Thinking things out for yourself gives you solid life skills.
A fellow who drives a vintage Ford like yours definitely has.
Thanks Buckin I quit counting the strokes a long time ago! I’ve watched several of Your videos while You were filing on a chain! Even though I’ve used a chainsaw through the Years it’s was just every now and then. But since I retired about 6 to 7months ago I have been using one on a regular basis. But I learned to sharpen a chain by watching You. I’m 65 years old but lord will I plan on doing a lot more work. Been cleaning up some property I have. But it’s fun sharpening Your on chain and it cutting good again! God Bless You and all the family. ❤️👍
You know bucking I've been watching you for about four or five years now and not only have you help me with my cutting but with my confidence and thank you man! have a good day!
That ending was pure gold Buckin. Enjoyed every bit of your wisdom. thanks
hey buckin what kind of files do you use on your ax's? and welcome to all new sub's great vid bud keep up the good work.
Ive never understand why people say you have to file each raker or tooth the same number of times. I agree with you, it doesn't make any sense
I think the style of raker gauge you use helps. Each raker is filed to it's specific tooth, instead of those other styles which bridge over several teeth.
Yes, those are the good raker gauges!
That's exactly what I was thinking, I found the tooth size to matter, but it's because I was using the style of raker gauge that you are describing. If you use the style that only references off of one tooth and you're cutting crooked, it's probably because of the bar.
Your video has saved my relationship with my powersaw. Thank you! Clearing trail is fun again!
You may never need one but if you're hoofing a saw into the woods Evoc makes a backpack that holds a chainsaw. I can ride my mountain bike with a saw strapped to my back. It's friggin awesome. I gush over it on my channel.
I was having the saw shop do my chains . Thanks to you I’m doing them my self.the gullet is where it’s at thanks for your time.
Hey Buckin, your filing videos are my favourite and this is why I’m here.
very good
Well Buckin, ive been toying with getting a saw for a while. Spent the last few months watching your videos after coming across them during lockdown. Just got myself a lovely Dolmar PS6100 the other day, man it’s a strong saw. Keep these educational videos coming, they are gold!
Good choice on saw.
Hi Billy, what I have experienced with long and short teeth cutting hardwood is that the bar jumps around and does a poor job cutting, also if one side of teeth on the chain are long and the other shorter will make half moon cuts, I'm sure you have had this happen also. Getting the rakers all the same height makes are smoother cutting chain also. Thanks, Gary
Kinda the point of the video. Tooth size makes no difference, long as every raker is sized appropriately to its tooth with a gauge.
He did a video with a chain that had nearly a new tooth in one side and the other side was filed right back to almost end of life. The chain cut straight as an arrow because the rakers were set correctly and allowed each tooth to take the same amount of wood as the next. 👍
@@Woodman_Custom_Sawing ok.
found your channel a week or so ago. watched your how to sharpen a chainsaw video. I was blown away. i did what you said and the difference was night and day immediately. I couldnt believe it. I've been sharpening my chains wrong all these years. So now i'm hooked on watching your stuff. I have my kids watch it too. 2 of my boys have thier own saws (age 13 and 10) and i always show them stuff like this. My oldest started cutting at age 8 with a small de-limber saw. thats how i start them all out. Now they can learn how to sharpen their saws properly. Cheers to you Buckin'.
Hello Bucking, no matter which video you watch, this also shows every time that you are an absolute professional in wood cutting, setting up axes, and repairing and sharpening power saws. I just say thank you on behalf of everyone for the information and enrichment in all situations. Ps forgot to fish too !!!! Best regards from Germany my friend !!! 👍✌️🌲🌲💯💪

Excellent work ol Buckin ! If it weren’t for you showing us about getting the gullet I was about ready to toss 25 perfectly reworkable chains now they are back to good with 3 days solid hand filing getting the gullet !! Beautiful day here in Kansas City ol Scotty boy on 100 acres doin chores thinking about milling up some walnut I’ve gotta cut down on creeks edge . Have excellent day everyone !!
There’s a guy in the comments looking for work from Mississippi 🙂
Sorting yourself out a proper workbench and having all your tools sorted helps a lot too. Makes it all a lot more seamless and you fall in to a maintenance routine instead of scrabbling around searching for things and all too often telling yourself "I won't bother today".
Glad I finally got round to it.
Badass! When you used a used up, newly sharpened chain and cut that half inch thick piece of log in no time, I was amazed! Best diy I've seen. I'm a 44 year Toolmaker...Nuf said.
I love the family values that you portray, love and kindness, brother!
This is perfect, we just finished training first year firefighters how to use and maintain saws.
Buckin thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️ for sharing your tips! I am a weekend warrior I guess. Maybe even periodically a chainsaw user. I just sharpened my first chain. Without your videos I wouldn’t have even thought about trying it. All I have to say is it was actually better than when I first started using it. The chainsaw is an inexpensive one but it works. I first pulled the plug because I had an issue starting it. The plug gap was almost closed. I did open it to what it was recommended on another channel. I haven’t had an issue with it since. It is a poulan too. I am just not financially able too purchase a good chainsaw. So again thank you Brother for your tips !!
May be one of your best chain sharpening videos plus enjoyed watching you make the two shelves for your better half.
I love all of this. I’m a amateur bucker and all this information is just gold, and this channel is great. But I can’t help thinking Buckin Billy Ray should have been a segment on the Red Green show. An awesome segment. I’d watch that. Come to think about it I already am.
I always thought that when my cut started going sideways it was because my chain needed sharpening. It never occurred to me that is was the channel in my bar being loose causing the crooked cut. Flipping he bar was a great tip and saved me some money too. Thanks Buckin!
They make a bar rail closing tool if the bar rails get spread too bar. There is also a tool to grind the rails so they are flat, in the same plane as eachother. I believe he does grind his rails but does not use a rail closer. If you start with a 0.058 gauge bar and wear it out you can eventually fit 0.063 gauge chain in the bar and by the time the 0.063 gauge wears out the rails it's time to replace the bar anyways.
Good stuff, thanks for the tip.
Hope the family is well. Thanks for sharing, love the sharpening pointers. I’ve got my vise, files, raker gauge. Ready to go and thankful I don’t have to do any counting. Pull out the giant link and tooth again sometime.
Last cuts were pretty straight I guess. Looked like slicing deli-meat.
I was taught to count strokes too but was always speculative. I prefer to just run across them til they have a certain feel... when it’s right you can feel it!
Love your video and your style. I've watched a ton a video on how to sharpen a chain and only occasional had success. Your the only one that explains exactly what to look for in way that makes sense to me. My only question is how often do check and file the raker.
Heavens to betsy, you just blowed my mind... Good talk.. I was a truck driver when I started watching your channel. Now I and my wife own a tree service contracting for fish and game. 44 years ain't too old to b climb in trees. It's the stuff dreams are made of Sir.
Billy, you are such a great help to anyone who loves to cut and split. Thanks for being a great man.
Thanks for sharing your experienced knowledge. There's so many piles to avoid stepping in that a guy needs muck boots to wade through it all.
Heading out to the shed to hit my chain this morning. Good refresher course while I drink my coffee. Hope everyone has a great day.
Loved picking up new information on vids like this one. I have found my self sharpened chains don't stay sharp as long as when they're new. So I use them for trimming branches off, and lighter work on smaller softer wood. After getting a sharpened one stuck in the tree trunk once or twice, I prefer to use a new one when felling larger and hardwood trees. Don't get me wrong, I get good use out of my chains, but after watching this one I think I'll get better use out of them. As far as counting strokes when sharpening, I stopped that after the first few I did because I found it fruitless.
Cheers from Downunder Billy. Started watching your videos for tips on sharpening and got so much more. Another good clip on what not to be too concerned about. Cheers and I'll never stop learning.
Always love your sharpening videos - always learn something new - you have certainly taught me a lot and helped me enjoy cutting wood more - I thought I knew what I was doing ..... apparantly I didn’t ..... thks again
Hello my friend ive been away for a while. To much gone wrong here. But cant complain lm still exceptionally blessed. Thanks for the video dont know what ld do without it. You're a good man u bless us all.
Hey Buckin! I been with the channel for a long time and I just wanted to tell you that I have learned an incredible amount from you and your channel. Just wanted to say thanks man!
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I only cut firewood occasionally enough to get 4 or 5 cords a year.
I still haven't mastered hand filing in 20 some years...just need more hands on filing. I have a dozen chains and let the rental shop sharpen them mostly. Helps the small mom and pop shop.
But want to figure out the handfiling. My sharpening isn't always right on 30° for my Stihl MS290 325 26RM3-81 20" chains. The shop sharpening always last lots longer than my hand filing.
Thx for your video
Splitting with the knot!
Splitting on an angle!
Buckin'a log on the ground!
Grandson... I learned from Buckin' Billy Ray.
Trippin' on chainsaws!
My 066 is a beast now thanks to you Buckin'!
Working in a saw shop it amazes me how many people bring there chains in for sharpening. And how hard they must be pushing that saw some times when they finally decide to have it sharpened.
Also if you can have your bar dressed. Makes a huge difference to your chain wear. Usually doesn’t cost much and will only take the shop 5 or 10 mins.
This Man is my newest best friend ever so because he has tremendously made a difference in my use of a chainsaw, thanks Mr.Billy!!!+++
I been saying that for years make them all cut the same and don’t worry about matching the length I’m new to your channel but I’ll be sticking around for sure
Thanks for the visual on the raker gauge ! Never new how to set that up on the tooth to file the raker! I THOUGHT it sat on TOP the tooth and the one prior with the raker in between!
NOW I KNOW!!! Chips will fly, sawdust will die! THANKS BUCKIN !
Proud to be a member of the army. Just picked up a Mac 55 from my uncle
Can't wait till it's running. Thanks for all the great videos
This channel just keeps getting better and better, love it!
First, love ya brotha !!! You keep the vids interesting and I feel like your talkin right to me. Thanks for taking the precious time to do this for everyone. You've saved me money and time and made me a better saw man !!
Great case in point! What nice thin straight cuts in the example after 'Hand Filing' and raker filing. I have chains in that near condition. Guess I will see what more I can get out of them. Best.
Thank you buckin for all the trick and tips in chain sharpening,it actually improved my sharpening skill by watching you video.I once threw away a chain cause it not cutting anymore it lost the hook.watching those big youtuber teaching on how to file chains wrecked my chain...lol
If you notice the side of the tooth of that chain shows a curved line that is the gullet line.
Not all chains have that though. 👍
Mr Buckin I’d like to genuinely thank you for this video in particular.
You have fully debunked all the chain sharpening myths going around.
I had a go this morning doing it the Buckin way.
Worked perfectly and I got the nice little burr on the cutting edge that just broke off.
Couldn’t be happier!
Wow, pouring "Watca" from a gallon can-serious business. 😁👌The shelves are awesome, Buckin. Good comment by Al. Also, I've seen kiln dried wood do what the finishing discipline sometimes defines as "spit-up". The Watco goes on, penetrates perfectly, then in a few minutes rises back to the surface and creates dozens of little ugly Watco wet "bubbles". You simply wet it back down and "dry wipe", and repeat until the condition goes away.
Buckin, I believe that rather than just show people what you do, it would help if you could explain why getting the gullet helps the cutting action. e.g. does it provide more space for the cut wood to occupy rather than jamming up the gullet space with wood and actually tending to lift the cutting edge away from the wood it has to cut. There must be a reason why it works and it is easier to learn when you can understand why! The depth gauge is easier to understand and I think that you have explained why the raker needs to be filed and how much you need to file it depending on the type of wood.
Always good to see you sharpening these chains. I am having a heck of a time getting a chain sharpened after it got drug through some sand/rocks.
I hear ya friend, filing out rocked cutters is punishing so I found a good used grinder (a Windsor like the Oregon types) fell in love w/it, now I never touch a file, just keep several razor sharp chains in the saw box. A want ad can get you into a grinder very reasonably. Good luck!
It’s a lot of work to file out a rocked out chain! Might even build character😅 a grinder or rotary tool will get ya cutting a lot faster. Just make sure to do your rakers any time your taking a lot of those teeth down. Good luck. Pay attention and have fun with it n you’ll be deli slicing hardwood like Buckin’ in no time👍
That’s where a rough ‘boat’ motion gets rid of material that needs to go Before continuing with normal strokes
Love it Buckin. The raker gauge has done wonders to my filin gig for sure. I have gone from a 24 to a 28 inch bar on my husky 61 because of the gauge. Thanks Buckin. 🌲❤🌲✊
When I first seen his video on sharpening a chainsaw. I paused the video and went to my building grab my chainsaw a put one of the best filing on the chain that I have ever done. I'm so glad buckin did this. Because not only did it help me now I teach others how to sharpen their chainsaws. So thank you buckin for all you do to help others
It’s Sunday morning. Gonna get up and head to the shed to do some chain work. Thank you brother for the info.
That old Mac 1010 hits a smooth lick. Great carb tuning ! Reminds me of an old Paul Newman movie Sometimes a Great Notion. If you haven’t seen it, it has excellent footage of old growth Oregon Timber logging from the 60’s.
Todays class is Fixing a hooped chain, professor is teaching . The take away should be use your eyes, ears and feel to sharpen the chain.
The one true teacher of wood felling. I'd work for this man in a second for pennies on the dollar. Work is more than money and this man would give me purpose to come home each day feeling fulfilment.
Powersaw Masterclass as usual Buckin. A random question: what 2 stroke oil do you use on your saws?
"When you're a married man, you got all these wife things to do.... and you do 'em if you're a smart man." Truer words never spoken, brother!
Thank you for doing this, you helped me to understand chain and sharpening and make me less frustrated. And few my friends that I told your words, so your mision is bigger than this chanel.
Thanks Buckin for another great video. Great advice. Love and kindness to all subscribers old and new. Be safe everyone, take care. Love you all Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧❤️❤️🌲🌲
Fantastic video! These sharpening videos are the best and so helpful! Thank u and have a wonderful day Buckin Army 🧡
Does the Husky raker gauge work on a Stihl chain? And not familiar with the term full house chain and how is that determined? I learned a lot from this video, thanks!
thanks for the video on sharpening. awesome. Um do you sell McCulloch chainsaws?
Love the family atmosphere. Hope everyone is getting their lives back to normal. Whatever that is now. Just remember to be kind and love everyone even if you don’t like them. Thanks Buckin and family! Love from Idaho!!
I was always taught to count my strokes .I was good at filing a chain .Can't any more .4 shoulder surgeries finished that have at least 6 running saws and have a bunch of spares .all I can run know is a baby echo 310 1/2 tank of fuel and iam lay up for a few days.Know to sharpen saws I use a dremel .only have to move my arm a inch .Works dam well .lol .But cut wood all my life and love cutting .Have a hard time getting 4 cord of wood to heat my house and shop .PS in this part of the world most saws only have a 16 inch bar .all no monster trees here . Awsome Vidio keep up the great work
love your vid mate. just a quick question. How come you file down rather than up. ??
Another great video on sharpening a saw. These videos have changed my cutting experience! Until I tried these techniques I was believing the myths. Thanks Buckin for making another great video!
Valorbe makes great files in Switzerland, but I think Stihl, Pferd, even Oregon and Windsor all buy and repackage them as their own. I like Swiss made chain too, great steel. I wish I could buy a 13/64 fine diamond round file. Edit: Bahco files are made in Portugal.
Very helpful. I’ve been frustrated with my chain sharpening.
Since I’ve been sharpening this way, my chains have been cutting better and completely straight. Thank you for sharing! 👍
Thank you! Heading to the barn and grabbing my files. Gonna be a whole new world for me on filing and saw “chain” maintenance.
Hi. Thanks for the great video, but if not counting your stokes when filing is not what makes your saw not cut straight, what is it that makes my saw not cut straight then?? Thanks.
I’m a professional but i pick my file up with every stoke, you know why? I get paid hourly;)
It prolongs the life of a file too,you shouldn't saw (yes pun intended) a file when using them just like a hacksaw.
I dont understand
Your the man buddy,keep up the great videos from Halifax Pennsylvania
thx
Anyone who doesn't know how to, or can't file well, just use a file guide, it'll keep the gullet filed and clear to the correct depth and in doing so you won't end up with it flattening off the leading edge, (the 'C'). It's not like they're expensive or need replacing with the file.
Hello Billy, do you use new chains with factory grind or do you need to sharpen them a little?