What In The Hell Is A Hamer Stressed Neck?
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2017
- www.texastoastguitars.com/blog
In this video we discuss the finer points of the Hamer Stressed Necks. There is a lot of information on line about these on line and at the same time there is not very much information. Lets just say there is a little more going on than 3 pieces of wood glued together...
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Original score: Electric Boogie Dawgs and Tokyo Rodeo
Artwork: Paul Shellooe 
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Just found this video as I am looking for neck building issues (videos). I had one of those Hamers from 1979....what a fool was I to let that thing go. Thanks, Matt. Always educational.
Preach! That's some of the most solid knowledge I've heard in nine and a half minutes in a long time. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
I like your style Chris, thanks for watching
I’ve got a mint 78 Sunburst and I’d put it against an original 59 Les Paul any day. It never goes out of the house now.
Oh hell yeah man. The classic Hamers are such great guitars.
You got a good one there niptodstan.
Hamers rock!!!
the first neck I ever built was a three piece maple construction made from wood that came from Home Depot. It's still dead straight and playing awesome some 8+ years later. alternating the grain....majorly important!!! great vid, Matt.
Oh yeha man there are still a few early TT necks with Home Depot wood necks floating around.
Hadn’t had my coffee yet. This video popped up in my feed and I was like, “Who wants to hammer stress their neck?” LOL. Great video! I’m educated now.
I love new knowledge
Thanks for watching Melvin, glad to hear you are digging the videos
I remember seeing a video on RUclips some years ago of Semi Mosely talking about that...
Found it. The video is titled A day with Semi Mosely "Mosrite".
A lot of Mosrite techniques were taught to us at Roberto-Venn
Cool that you got Alex Jones to talk Hamer necks! 🤣
Great video as always! I’m digging deep in your channel this morning. I’m at a bit of a lull in a build while I make some decisions and watching your videos always helps (even ones unrelated to where I am in the build). Send some good vibes and crossed fingers my way. (Please don’t mail me dismembered fingers).
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Ha, that's pretty funny.
Fingers are something we take pretty seriously and would just as soon keep our membered but we will be happy to good vibes... those are always in good supply here in the shop brotherman
Yeah he's gonna build a bone broth guitar to defeat the globalists hahaha. Alex Jones is awesome.
1990s at blue moutain music in walla walla I played a hamer usa cruise 5 string bass fell in love and bought it for $200 it has the hamer 3 piece neck still plays great.
Awesome deal man!
Oh man! I'm gonna tie 2 of your videos together... speaking of neck stability, I just got my Richlite materials in to build a full Richlite neck. And we'll see how that goes
Oh cool man I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
Ahh yeah, love Hamer. Too bad your blog doesn’t really exist anymore as I would love to read more about the Hamer neck. I asked you about it in a live stream a few months ago and I think you said you’d look for it but… no worries, I understand.
I don't know why the blog isn't viewable...
www.texastoastguitars.com/blog
@@TexasToastGuitars Well, it seems to be there but when I click on “June 17” or whatever it shows the link to the Hamer Neck video and under that is text about the Hamer Neck but clicking on that only refreshes the page…
I just got a hamer strat style body, the guy told me that the neck got twisted and therefore it was too expensive to fix so he gutted the guitar. Later on I found he took the neck and put it on god knows what, it was perfect. I’m going to restore the guitar by making a new neck according to specs. Have to say, the body is friking awesome.
Oh man... he will smoke a turn in hell for taking that neck off hahahaha
Okay, probably not but I hat hearing about older Hamers being defiled. Glad to hear you are going to bring it back to life my friend.
I've been messing with building necks this way for a while I didn't realize Hamer built there necks like this. I prefer a 2 way truss rod though I think I'll try that pre sprung single action method it sounds legit. What do you think about titanium or carbon fiber rods on the sides of the truss rod? Obviously it's going to be crazy stable but is it worth the extra cost compared to the amount of extra support? Those are expensive materials.
We experimented with carbon fiber for a while and it is certainly a cool material. It is hard on wood working tools and is expensive as you pointed out. we used to run it through the neck and into the headstock to help stabilize that portion that is easier to break. Then we decided to, simply, alter our headstock angle from 14 degrees to 7. Now we do not feel the need to stabilize guitar necks further. We still use steal rods to stabilize bass necks. It also helps to eliminate dead spots. We totally stole the idea from Warmoth.
We still use our 2 way truss rod on everything.
The Tom Holmes built Sunbursts had a lot of problems w twisting allegedly caused by using Gibson preslotted fretboards. That birthed the stress neck. I owned a twisty 79 Sunburst, great tone but untunable
That is some good history Bill, I didn't know that, but it certainly makes sense. Thanks for sharing
@@TexasToastGuitars my pleasure, I had their key man endorsement in the early 00s and was a mod on the HFC where those guys get way down into the minutia. It was a real bummer when I got one of the twistys, looked just like Martin Barres and it just would not be tuning stable, at all. Finally got a red Sunburst and rocked it for years
Cool video. Any further info on that Cali replica?
You know I was working on that the other day. Going to start the boomerang inlay pretty soon.
I'll see if I can work up a video or two
Yeah I've a sold a few I regret
I have a Hamer DuoTone that I love. The control layout is weird but I can live with it. I would rather it had a regular LP Special control layout but we can't have everything now can we. LOL Hamer also made a better Jr than Gib$on. I think every guitar player should have a Hamer Jr.
The Hamer control layout is iconic
@@TexasToastGuitars Maybe so but I like the 2V, 2T and 3-way layout a whole lot better. :o)
hey Matt, is the hamer neck superior to the standard neck? and if so, why is it not an industry standard? yeah boggling.
HI Mynx, I wouldn't say that it is better. I do think it is easier to source flat sawn lumber and engineer a more stable neck with three pieces of it than it is to find a really excellent example for a on piece neck.
I'm sure it is standard for some companies. As always tradition plays a large part in all things guitar related.
Mynx _uk They kind of are an industry standard, just call multi laminate necks.
Multiple lamination necks are, indeed, popular.
I do not have every confidence that they are created equally. Grain selection and having all the pieces come from the same chunk of timber is what I would look for and I'm not sure that is the industry standard.
Do you think that in some case this is done because players think it looks cool?
Thanks for tuning in XGC
Texas Toast Guitars On my Ibanezs the reversed the grain on one side so it should remain stable. However on a couple of LTDs I had it looks like they just cut the board then glued some pieces in between. Most guitar players just care about how it looks(and the tradition of it) and not how it's constructed, otherwise Gibson would be gone and Fenders a lot cheaper.
That kinda is what I'm talking about. If it wasn't for traditional players Gibson would have been history a long time ago.
Sweet! Another vid with no thumbs down. Fuck yea! FKN haters! 🖕😆😉
Ever since I saw this vid the first time, I've been wanting a neck built like this 👍😎
I dig Hamers. Too bad Fender killed them.
No doubt about it the American made Hamer guitars and basses were awesome. I'll have gone as far to say (in my lectures) that Hamer and PRS pretty much saved American guitars by building such great instruments. It really forced everyone to up their game.
You guys are leaving out an important step in the process if you would like to duplicate a true 80's Hamer stressed neck. The Hamer necks in question were between 13 and 17 degrees ant the angle was let into the headstock prior to lamination. here's a link to the building of one of Steve Vai's latest Ibanez. Should be cued up to the neck part. Look how Tak has pre-shaped his neck components and you will see how it is actually done. ruclips.net/video/6wyKqZeMdUI/видео.htmlm9s
Yeah, that is a great video.
We believe that 13 to 17 degrees is way too much headstock angle. Buy using 7 degree we can maximize the yield in neck material and strengthen a weak point in the guitars neck. It was good enough for Dan Armstrong, I guarantee it's good enough for us.
Thanks for taking the time to show me "... how it's actually done."
Don't patronize me bro. Zero headstock angle is perfectly appropriate on a correctly designed and built neck. I have made plenty of seven degree or less necks myself even when I worked at Hamer in Illinois. In fact I'm impressed to see how that Californian neck has come along in your recent videos especially concerning the boomerang inlays. Me and Frank Untermeyer used to call those trapezoids on acid when we were first developing them. Here's a tip though; use a butt adjust truss rod and machine the blanks prior to lamination if you do desire a steep angle. Then the only inherent issue left is that the string rides one side of the r2 nut due to lack of straight string pull. That only becomes a problem if you actually play the guitar.
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Thanks for watching Junior Kong, I think I have seen you comment before and I don't get the feeling you care much for me. Have a great afternoon
You might notice I never drop a dislike tho...Just breakin balls boss. Semper Fidelis.
This is how all guitars should be made. I see wood like a carrot. You cut it and it warps. All wood does that to some degree.
I think it has an awful lot of merit, especially, if you consider all the reasons Hamer used the process they did. Sourcing materials would be worth the price of admission as far as I'm concerned... of course, the time it takes to prep 3 pieces has to pass muster in the cost benefit analysis.
Thanks for watching Bob
I'm surprised they used an old school truss rod. Compression, bad.
I don't know, the old school truss rods are pretty efficient. People also like the idea (right or wrong) of keeping the most wood in the neck.
I don't use the compression rods anymore but I have spent a lot of time belaboring my choice of truss rods.
One day I'll post a 45 minute presentation I did about truss rods. My guess is I'll lose viewers in the first 3 minutes.
Stay cool brougham
Isn't he talking a little slower than normal or did someone smoke a bowl
The only bowl I have is full of Crunch Berries