I've seen some people say a solution could be extending the banner runtime to how they normally are in normal patches (just below 1 month) because that's the main reason why spenders feel like they're on a time crunch when spending in-game. Making the banner runtime still run like how it should during normal patches should theoretically eliminate the spending problem.
It doesn't solve the spending problem, because over the year you would still ultimately pay at least double of what you're used to, but at the very least it reduces FOMO and allows more flexible planning on WHEN to spend.
I wish there was some compromise. I don't like being year and half behind on story and cool characters. But also would like game to do well. It's difficult situation..
@@Zero60133 yeah it’s really a lose lose situation for them and us because it’s either they lose a lot of money making it fair for the global community and face hostility from the Chinese community or we just don’t get the speed up plan at all. However, I feel like there’s a way the bp situation could be fixed at least. It could get the same treatment as the monthly.
@@Dripeh300 But i am confused, global and CN are separate servers, afterall? Are they worried more from backlash from global whales or entire CN server? If these are separate, what exactly upsets CN players about this so much? Do they believe global shouldn't catch up to CN?
@@Dripeh300 Still, that feels somewhat unreasonable to me. If the biggest reason for outrage is"i went through it the slow way, they must too", like certain parents being angry for their children leading easier lives. I don't like idea of CN and global being so far apart simply because of what amounts to pettiness, and global being at their mercy so completely. Now if it was simply because of outrage of global whales. But if servers are apart, and both exist in separate system, so, it shouldn't matter so much.
The way i understand it is that if the monthly is instant, and you can buy 2 per month, you spend 10 bucks on 6600BC. This means you can spend more money on the more efficient packs
@@kennnnn yes I agree, but the battle pass part and the packs being the same means you’ll have to spend double to keep up with you normal top ups if you’re a whale.
@@Dripeh300 Well somebody was gonna get the short end of the stick with this plan: -Everybody wants to be in sync with CN -Whales want 3x value packs for 3x patches -CN does NOT want global to have 3x value packs (its prefferential treatment) There is no situation where everybody is content. Also, CN whales are the actual majority of PGR income, not global whales.
There are 2 choice only. And all of that made kuro loss money. 1. Make it cheaper=loss money 2. Still same price=loss money from player paying less for 2 year content because it's speed up in 1 year. Option 1 seems player friendly. But remember japan and china exist. They already spend in the game. And if global got everything with less paying, that's mean not fair. Choice 1 is will be a civil war betwen server. And choice 2 is make some minority of global spender became hostile.
I can definitely see what you're saying, it seems to be a lose-lose situation. However, I do still think that having to buy the battle pass 3 times is crazy no matter how I look at it. I feel like a similar system to the monthly would make that situation a little better.
@@ARCISX you can find their wallpapers on the official website but i’ll make it easier for you and send you this link (it’s the official art) www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/yz3o93/i_found_a_picture_on_the_internet_for_the_lucia/?
"You pray for rain, you gotta deal with the mud too" if KURO give advantages to spenders they will make CN Players frustrated and angry, i also spend money on monthly and sometimes battlepass but we have to accept this Integration Plan to evade dramas and problems.
i think they really just have to give discounts, no other choice. we know it'll be unfair to the ones who paid in full, but it's also been kinda unfair for us ever since the global release because of the big ahh time gap. yeah we were able to plan so far ahead and stuff, but after a really long wait, the hype's gone when the patch comes, it's what made me quite a lot of times. we're like playing a retro version of the game here lol c'mon, and now we need to rush, not miss a single day and need to spend triple, don't we deserve a discount? 😭.
Ya'll need to keep telling Kuro your concerns. Also I'm sick right now which is why I sound a little nasally
I've seen some people say a solution could be extending the banner runtime to how they normally are in normal patches (just below 1 month) because that's the main reason why spenders feel like they're on a time crunch when spending in-game. Making the banner runtime still run like how it should during normal patches should theoretically eliminate the spending problem.
@@kaiseldan5369 This would be a great idea.
It doesn't solve the spending problem, because over the year you would still ultimately pay at least double of what you're used to, but at the very least it reduces FOMO and allows more flexible planning on WHEN to spend.
4:01 "it's triple da money bruh 😭" lmao
I wish there was some compromise. I don't like being year and half behind on story and cool characters. But also would like game to do well.
It's difficult situation..
@@Zero60133 yeah it’s really a lose lose situation for them and us because it’s either they lose a lot of money making it fair for the global community and face hostility from the Chinese community or we just don’t get the speed up plan at all. However, I feel like there’s a way the bp situation could be fixed at least. It could get the same treatment as the monthly.
@@Dripeh300 But i am confused, global and CN are separate servers, afterall?
Are they worried more from backlash from global whales or entire CN server?
If these are separate, what exactly upsets CN players about this so much?
Do they believe global shouldn't catch up to CN?
@@Zero60133 I think the CN players will get upset because they had to spend more money leading up to their current patch.
@@Dripeh300 Still, that feels somewhat unreasonable to me. If the biggest reason for outrage is"i went through it the slow way, they must too", like certain parents being angry for their children leading easier lives.
I don't like idea of CN and global being so far apart simply because of what amounts to pettiness, and global being at their mercy so completely.
Now if it was simply because of outrage of global whales.
But if servers are apart, and both exist in separate system, so, it shouldn't matter so much.
@@Zero60133 yeah i agree
The way i understand it is that if the monthly is instant, and you can buy 2 per month, you spend 10 bucks on 6600BC. This means you can spend more money on the more efficient packs
@@kennnnn yes I agree, but the battle pass part and the packs being the same means you’ll have to spend double to keep up with you normal top ups if you’re a whale.
@@Dripeh300 Well somebody was gonna get the short end of the stick with this plan:
-Everybody wants to be in sync with CN
-Whales want 3x value packs for 3x patches
-CN does NOT want global to have 3x value packs (its prefferential treatment)
There is no situation where everybody is content.
Also, CN whales are the actual majority of PGR income, not global whales.
There are 2 choice only. And all of that made kuro loss money.
1. Make it cheaper=loss money
2. Still same price=loss money from player paying less for 2 year content because it's speed up in 1 year.
Option 1 seems player friendly. But remember japan and china exist. They already spend in the game. And if global got everything with less paying, that's mean not fair.
Choice 1 is will be a civil war betwen server. And choice 2 is make some minority of global spender became hostile.
I can definitely see what you're saying, it seems to be a lose-lose situation. However, I do still think that having to buy the battle pass 3 times is crazy no matter how I look at it. I feel like a similar system to the monthly would make that situation a little better.
yeah, people should not forget what kind of people in CN server.
Dude could you please drop the thumbnail art source? Much thanks..
@@ARCISX you can find their wallpapers on the official website but i’ll make it easier for you and send you this link (it’s the official art)
www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/yz3o93/i_found_a_picture_on_the_internet_for_the_lucia/?
"You pray for rain, you gotta deal with the mud too" if KURO give advantages to spenders they will make CN Players frustrated and angry, i also spend money on monthly and sometimes battlepass but we have to accept this Integration Plan to evade dramas and problems.
i think they really just have to give discounts, no other choice. we know it'll be unfair to the ones who paid in full, but it's also been kinda unfair for us ever since the global release because of the big ahh time gap. yeah we were able to plan so far ahead and stuff, but after a really long wait, the hype's gone when the patch comes, it's what made me quite a lot of times. we're like playing a retro version of the game here lol c'mon, and now we need to rush, not miss a single day and need to spend triple, don't we deserve a discount? 😭.
I think they are trying their best now. Extending packs over a longer period
Probably the only time Kuro tells spenders:
"Cmon, hey now man please spend less just this time. Have patience for a bit....maybe a year~"
Yeah i dunno man, these whales are gonna have to work overtime lmao
I bought month BC card for 2 years. Recent went f2p...
Most my money went to wuwa.
Anyone here paying rent? Life hard :/
My money is split between wuwa and pgr rn. I don't whale though.