PHANTOM SHOGUN 25 - ALL RARE TEAM - EASY & FAST!
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- RAID Shadow Legends | Phatom Shoguns Grove Stage 25 All Rare Team
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Today in RAID Shadow Legends we'll review the all rare speed team for phantom shogun's grove stage 25. Enjoy!
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I'd love to see the progression team Ash. I never really paid attention to this guy or Sand Devil, and all the 25 teams I have tried seem to not be able to progress well. lol
It's slow, and full manual, but if you put another 3 turn cleanser in the 252 speed coldheart spot you can manual all the way to 25. You have to manual because you need to control the cleanse and the unkillable buffs yourself
Me too
It's manual to progress, 100%, replace coldhearts with another cleanser and maybe reviver, keep playing around the unkillable and use gnaelhorn A3 as if not in 25 the speeds don't work at some points in the battle. Need high awakening to counter the turns that gnarlhorn won't be attacking. You need a champ that has a non damaging skill for when he enfeebles You and the champ goes before the cleanser.
I do love to see the one size fits all
An all rare team for progression would be amazing! Would definitely watch that video! I have been able to get past the first few but not much luck there after
Make a video on a team that can progress throughout the stages and make it to 25 please. Thanks Ash, great video!
i agree on this on this most vids are stage 25 not the jurney too that stage
I further agree. I would appreciate a few options to help me get there.
Yeah I'm stuck on 14. Hopefully the nerf coming helps. Lol
@@TheQwagmyer yea I know how you feel im stuck on stage 16 as well as a f2p and I know I can make that stage 25 team as well that Ash showed in the video
Agree. Too many vids on level 25. Not enough vids on how to get there!
Yup, can't get past stage 10. So speed farming stage 25 with rares is pointless. Guess im just giving you a free view for your algorithm......
I did this just the other day, not all the stages, but set the team and switched according to affinity and did all manual until 25. I would recommend bringing only good affinity Dmg dealers every stage, and at least 1 more cleanser, if high awakening Even better, it's needed for higher stages. Gnaelhorn, Paragon and reliquary, then another cleanser, mithrala if You have is great, and then either other cleanser or reviver or a champ that doesnt have a damage skill in case he gets a turn after the enfeeble but before the cleanser. Manual gnaelhorn A3 when Paragon isnt back yet. I could do it because My mithrala is 4 Star, gnaelhorn 5, Paragon and reliquary 4, so the filler could be low awakening. It comes down to that, let me know if You would like more recommendations i can help
@Toedju I'm pretty sure the spds for stage 25 aren't going to work on lower lvls. If your team is too much faster than the boss, you're going to outrun the essential buffs such as unkillable
@@lamarh2891 i literally manualled with these speeds, You can always be unkillable with gnarlhorns A3 for paragons downtime, need to compensate with awakaned hits
Yes for a progression team video!!!! The more F2P friendly the better
I will try to make it happen soon :)
@@ASH-RAIDThank you sir! I look forward to your future endeavors 😂
I think videos s like this are helpful as hell, and should get more likes than they do.
BioHack is the origin of this team and there are important details you didn't cover that his video did. However, the nerf may make those less important.
You can prioritize a series of rare only progression teams for everywhere and it definitely would not hurt my feelings. Would love to see the Muckstalker team you mentioned to get us up to Shadow25.
Thanks for the feedback!
ash getting this in before the update hits haha
Love the videos brother! Yes a low threshold progression team(s), would be amazing to showcase.
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
I used this to team to get to stage 25. I had to manual from 16 on. Once or twice, you will need to use Gnarlhorns unkillable. and if you Cold Hearts are enfeebled, use their single hit A2 or the bosses number goes way up with and A1 from Cold Heart. It is now full auto on 25.
@dmcg660, Thanks for your suggestions. Using them, I'm able to manual S23-25, tedious but no problems. S25 will not auto. It drops out of tune early on. My speeds are Gnarlhorn(185), CH1(218), CH2(222), Para(183), RTender(284). I've experimented with speed of Paragon, faster & slower than Gnarlhorn w/o success. Mind sharing your final speeds?
@@hrsinbay6652 Hi. My speeds are Gnarlhorn, 179, Paragon 185, Rel Tender 284. I am pretty sure those are a must. My cold hearts are 245 and 250. I had 6 speed area bonus in the great hall that I forgot about so I learned to manual. Fixed that recently. Works every time.
@@dmcg660 @ASH-RAID DMCG, thanks for the feedback. My SPDs now match yours for Gnhorn, Para, and RTender. CHs are between RTender & Para. The order is as expected for round1. However, at the end of round 2, RTender jumps in-front of Gnhorn. I've looked at masteries and eliminated those that affect cool downs. I'm at a loss for why this happens. I still suspect my speeds need tweaking. Any ideas are appreciated. BTW, I've got 26 awakenings, & Gnhorn has highest CDamage.
@@hrsinbay6652 The only thing that matters with RTender is her DeBuff cleanse is used immediately after the boss uses Scourge Sword to spread enfeeble.
Sorry if i missed it but what would be the speed-ranges on all champions?
Do you think people who are building all rare team and not struggling to reach end stage of the boss . If we were reached end stage why we looking for all rare team😅
Do these speeds need to be exact? I have Gnarlhorn at 184, Paragon at 183, Wythir at 284, Coldheart at 253 and Ninja built for Sand Devil at 244. I get very close to killing the boss (within 20%) but then unkillable falls off of Gnarlhorn, Shogun attacks, then Paragon goes.
Hi! I have suffered the same problem. I figured it out after 3 days of testing the problem was Ninja... His turn meter boost abiliti ruins the turn order... I changed him to coldhart and now it is working full auto with the exact speeds in the video. I think it's will work with Ninja but I have to test it further to speed up the run.
can't get to 25, I'm at 10 yes please what team to get there. Also how about after the nerf?
I think you should wait for the nerf first , it will impact big time , especially for players who stuck at lower lvls ,
I have paragon at exact 175 speed, and the boss hits gnarlhorn a 2nd time before paragon can apply the 1st unkillable. Any ideas?
Hi! I was suffered the same problem. The mistakes I have made: I don't have all of the champions the same speed as in the video... It will only work if all 5 hero have the right speed. My second mistake was using Ninja in the team... Yes his built in turn meter boost will ruin the turn order, and I have failed the runs because of that. If neather of these won't help try Paragon at 176 speed.
My reliquary Tender has exactly 284 Speed Bit at the third rotation she cleanses before the shogun debuffs the team. Whats the Problem here? I have no masteries on her
Hi! I was suffered the same problem. The mistakes I have made: I don't have all of the champions the same speed as in the video... It will only work if all 5 hero have the right speed. My second mistake was using Ninja in the team... Yes his built in turn meter boost will ruin the turn order, and I have failed the runs because of that. I hope it will helps. My team works with the same speeds full auto at lvl25 with no fails. :)
Please please do a climb team for sand devil and or shogun. Everyone just puts out a 25 team with no way to climb to 25.
Thanks for the suggestion :)
Hi Ash hope your having a awesome day bro 😊
Oh wow that is very interesting, awesome man! As for me I am currently at Phantom Shogun's Grove Stage 7, I am not really pushing it since I am improving my account from time to time. I will keep this idea in mind 🙂💯🙌🏻.
i feel like you could replace paragon with harrier ngl, hes amazing
hahahah
😆
Well coldheart hasn't come to me even after 4 years
but 7 pain Keeper
Why not💀
I have two cold hearts and zero pain keepers after one year. Wouldnt mind having one on my account at all.
@@davidledoux1736 hope you get luckier than me with pain Keeper
I would give you one or two if it was possible...oh well eventually she will come so you never know
Hmmm.....gifting champions as future QOL upgrade? 🤔
@@davidledoux1736 it could be interesting but I don't think it's something they are really going to do anytime soon...although probably sth like champion trades could be interesting at least for rares that can't really do anything too game changing overall
Or even epics but you know it's a big dream (I'm not even going to try legendaries) but yeah it is an idea which could be interesting to see in the future
Said totally tongue-in-cheek. Of course it would be a very fun and interesting idea, that's why it will never happen. 🤣 Have a great day!
What speed does ninja have?
FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NUKER SPEEDS NEEDS TO BE 250 AND 251 SPEED
He doesn't say it and I banged my head because of it, it will work if ALL champs are the right speed (maybe a speed wiggle room on the non nukers upwards)
IMO, teams that allow players to progress up to stage 25 are a much better showcase than stage 25-only teams. Even my multi-year old main account still can't get past stage 20 of Sand Devil or Stage 17 of Shogun.
I agree i've been playing for 3 years and i'm stuck around stage 16-17 for shogun and sand devil
Thanks for the feedback :)
I have built this team and can NOT get it to work. Gnarl in lead w 261 CD 74k hp 184 sp, Para 54k hp 175 sp, Req Ten 57k hp 284 sp, CH 1 w/ 40k hp 190 sp 258 CD, CH 2 w/ 39k hp 260 sp and 223 CD... does NOT work on 25, WHY???????
Great video as always ASH
Gonna build this team as soon as possible, but i wanted to ask you something, i want to use ninja instead of second CH, isnt his A1 gonna throw the speed tune out ? what speed he needs to be so this can work ?
I can make a team like that, cool! But Sand Devil is a higher priority for me. Even though I can farm level 10 of hard dungeons (okay, I'm on L6 in FK), I still haven't beat SD 20. So would I like help? Sure. But..... (hehe, butts!) both of these dungeons are about to change tomorrow. Let's see how the nerfs shake out.
I updated the speed in the great hall for this and added 2 speed. HUGE mistake. No matter what I do from gear, masteries, etc. I cannot get the speed right. Inevitably the boss outruns Paragon toward the end. He is at 175 plus two hall bonus. I have tried him at 173, 174, 176, etc and he is either too fast or too slow at the end. DO NOT touch the great hall speed bonus.
Even if i have a 6star gnut, pythion, wixwell and other great champs.. i can't really achieve the stage 25.. im stuck at 16 :o and my shogun team is like 290+ speeds..
I need that progression team. I keep seeing lvl 25 teams but nobody talks about getting to stage 25!
I would DIE for a progression team in shoguns. Maybe not die, but you get the point. I would do some things for the key to progress shoguns because I am a very lazy..... person.. at the moment. Thank you in advance for the future content.
So my Burangiri is totally maxed out and HP base ten times more than what you claim...why can i still NOT kill Bomal lvl 10🙄🤔😂😂pay to win baby🎉🎉
Hello Ash. Sending prayers for you and your son. I would really like to know how I can progress on here and Sand Devil. I can't beat stage 5 in any of them, I'm still on normal. Thank you 🙏
Ash, come on man… you said you were going to do better with latest vids. You never mentioned the required speeds of gnarl and paragon in your tips (only the cleanser), which is required. I had to go to YOUR video from months ago to find the speeds to work… and wasted lots of energy in the process. Overall I appreciate the content.
Tiere is a bis nerf now.Level 25 is noch live Level 20 before.Not linear.The speed and needed Acc is Seminar but Boss Hits much softer and is much Mode easy to kill.
It's been said enough but i know you also look at the quantity of the requests/comments so here goes. A stage 25 'all rare' team is useless to us if we can't actually get to 25. In fact, it might be useless regardless because if you can comfortably get to 25 then you probably have the champs that make it easier in general.
The progression for this and sand devil have been ....problematic. I would absolutely love to see some progression teams that feature easy to find/farm champs, please dude
Why bother with that nerf for them bosses will be in a few days and then we can put champs that smack just smack all them down sho gun sanddevil and Iron twins lol save your stuff easy builds and nukes soon come for all them bosses
i am struggling to progress to stage 25 Phantom Shogun and Sand Devil to be honest any help most welcome
would love to see teams from stage 19 up to 25... i am currently stuck on 19 (farm)
I'm stuck on stage 12 any help would be greatly appreciated Ash
Ash, I would love to see a team that can get to stage 25. Thank you in advance for your hard work!
I need to farm it for the missions but I'm still low in this dungeon so would really appreciate progress teams to help .
i have an issue, if i put paragon at 175 speed he will not take a turn before the boss... why?
Sand devil, phantom shogun, and iron twins are dungeons that I seriously struggle with
Thanks for the video. But make a progression team video for f2p audience
FTP teams to complete Iron twins, sand devil and shogun please!
I run the exact same team with CH 1 at 213 speed and CH 2 at 210 and it also works.
I FOUND A FIX! I too was having both issues ive seen below since the update to shogun. Both reliquary using the 2nd cleanse too early and the unkillable falling off gnarl. Increase reliquary speed by 1 to 285, increase pargons speed to 183. Make sure you have no turn meter boost masteries for ANYONE in the team. I have tested this with both coldhearts, a gnut replacing one and a drexthar (6*) replacing one and all work. Could not figure the speeds to include ninja as his self TM boost wrecks the tune. Best of luck 🙏
Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. Can you tell us your speed values per character again? And the That would be great.
please ash can you do it for progression team when the new patch comes out. so i can know what champs i need ty
We need to know that special team that you had to get us to the stage 25 because some of us can’t pass up stage 12
Is there any explanation why my Gnarlhorn starts losing the unkilllable buff toward the end? i matched the speeds exactly to what your champs have.. what possibly could be wrong? Anyone??
me also have the exact same problem.
3 accounts, 2 years playing the game...not one Coldheart :( I've had more duplicate legendaries than I've had Coldhearts.
I hope you get Coldheart soon :)
I haven't even tried the new dungeons lol think I'm on 7 on iron twins and nothing on the other two lol
I would also love a team that can take me from like level 10 to 25...I'm FTP so I can't just be swapping gear all the time. want something solid.
I will try to make it happen soon :)
I still struggle climbing sanddevil got to 23 and can't pass it
Speeds matter, and you didn't give what ones are required.
would really like to see the team to climb. I need to get to 25 to do this team.
Could use some help in Shogun...I am at level 15. 😳😩
Yes! I'd love some help with this guy and the sand devil.
I have my gnarlhorn in lead position but my paragon keeps putting unkillable on CH… not sure what’s happening there?
Hi! I can think only one reason... Your CH has the lowest max HP in the team? Also, don't forget that all of the champions need to be at least 40k max HP. My CH is wearing a HP% chest because of this. I hope it will help! 😊
Ash I need some help thousand of questions please talk back
Nice video ash! But getting that "casual 250+" speed is kiiinda hard for new players hahha
this isnt a "new player" dungeon lol
I can’t get anywhere close to level 25, same as others.
I replaced cold heart for ninja, my ninja is built in relentless and fails sometimes. Is that why?
Because paragon wont place it fast enough on gnarlhorn and he gets killed
this does not work i have the the speeds and he kills me everytime
Why is Coldheart impossible to get? 😂
I'm stuck at stage 11 i would love to see the team you have
I was able to take this team to stage 25 by lowering the speeds and manualing the fight to manage stacks. One tip I recommend is that you can use the HH optimizer on really difficult stages to find the speeds that work with the team on that stage. Its tedious and quite a bit of work but it's worth it to to get to stage 25 and use this team!
When they push out the update all this is going to change
I cannot get to stage 25. Please do video about climbing stages 1-24 💪
I will try to make it happen soon ;)
Yes, please, I need to get to Stage 25 first!
I can’t even get past stage 4. I’m no good at this.
Using exact speeds and still failing.
yeah a team to get to 25 would be nice....
id love a good guide for shoguns early levels.
Please make the video for 1 size fits all for the ones who are struggling to get to 25
yeah , unfortunately there is no one size fits all for these bosses , you can manually do most of the runs tho ,thats what I did
I would realy love to see how to progress iron twins, phantom shogun, and sand debil, according to their mechanisc. Almost all videos I can see are cheeses like godseeker on sand devil and things like that. Also reddit cannot help with that. E.g. when I ask something about iron twins, people always reply, that I shouldn't even start it, if I don't have geo.
I would love to see guides for newer players in that dungeons
Thanks Ash. I learned that Reliquary Tender must be exactly 284 SPD. I have a 6 star Daithi and his extra turns help keep the Shade counter low. I have Gnut paired with him. He's just a monster. Ended up being a 52 sec run.
PSA: There was mention of using Gnut. Dont use Gnut on 25 as he's spirit affinity and the weak hits will accumulate really fast, once the nerf comes in you might be able to mitigate it a lot easier, but right now don't use him.
Love all your content, would love you to do a “what can they solo” series with a lot of the more common champions 90+% of us have, uncommon to legendary. Especially things like what is needed to solo stat wise or gear wise. Thank you!
Thanks for the video Ash! A video of a team that can get us all up to stage 25 would be so awesome. I can verify that there is a void of info on team build and Strats to get up to the final stage. Any help from you would be great for us folks.
Ngl when the grove was introduced 1.5 years ago I built a team of my best champions at the time and just completed the first few levels and haven’t bothered playing it since. I just get enough ascension materials from stuff like heroes passes and occasionally use them to get some better stats on my main champions. Other than an occasional double points for cvc battles there’s nothing about that dungeon worth farming for. At least sand devil has tournaments that offer great rewards that can be quickly and efficiently farmed from doing stage 4 as the energy cost is low enough to net a greater amount of points (at least for my current teams) than cycling stage 12 which gets the same points but at a higher energy cost.
Ash I remember you doing this video last year. I still can’t get it to work because I can’t even get to 25!
I'm paying this game( free player) for almost 3 years now , and I don't own a single legendary champion having 70k HP lol, never mind a rare champion, I'm farming stage 5 Hard dragoon and ice golem for gear and I'm nowhere close to that, where do you get your gear from?
are you using flat stat chestplate and gauntlet ? what the heck ?
you must not have been playing actively for those 3 years if you still cant reach those stats lmao. I'm guessing you took a break or you just play 1 hour a day since those stats are achievable even after one year of playing
with epic empowerment how would you build hoskarul as an armanz counter and do you think that hosk could be viable to start.
For anyone asking for a team that can actually get to stage 25, this team CAN get to stage 25, you just have to manual it and get a little lucky. You need the exact speed ash is showing.
Both setups in this and the other phantom shogun stage 25 video ash did work.
This is the real deal meat and potatoes content here, boys. Taking on top tier dungeons and hard environment with budget and rares is a major help to me.
By using budget and rares, you can swap out with more powerful epics and rares and in this way you can see WHY you are able to do the hard content.
I really haven’t bothered much at all with Shogun or Sand Devil so I’d love to see some useful practical teams to use.
Pity as dont have the blessings
Of the rares featured in this video, I have only Gnarlhorn. Also, their stats are out of this world and far more than the usual in my roster. I don't do Phantom Shogun, because it's too hard and costs too much energy. I also don't use accessory ascension oil except for a quest. The benefit from ascending accessories is minimal, because the ascended stats are flat, not percentage.
nah the benefit from being able to fully ascend your accuracy banners and crit damage amulets is insane and crit damage is a percentage, not a flat stat unlike the other stats you get. If you fully ascend a 6 star accuracy banner you can get like 130 acc total just from the banner. Same with crit dmg amulets, you can get 52% crit dmg in total if you fully ascend a 6 star crit dmg amulet
@@nash5538 But...but...but the chance of rolling C DMG is only 1/4, and the chance of rolling ACC is only 1/5! Do not rely on Chaos Powder!
can you please make a progression video so we can reach stage 25
I will try to make it happen soon :)
Is speed of coldhearts is important? My coldhearts are bit slower and Shogun goes before my paragon take first turn have same speeds as in video
Please make a ftp level climb team as well
Love to see a progression team up to 25 as well as Sand Devil. Stuck on Sand Devil at stage 5.
I'm stuck on stage 10
I need the progression team
Could you use padraig?
I can't get pass level 10
Thanks for the info.Ash.I am struggling to get to twenty five
7-24 please. Tylyb