You can play a shot out of a red-staked hazard. I guess the question is whether Mr. Barlow would get a free drop due to interference from a man-made object while in the hazard. I think rule #17.1.E would apply here? "If a player’s ball is in a penalty area, and is outside a no play zone but a no play zone (whether in an abnormal course condition or in a penalty area) interferes with his or her area of intended stance or area of intended swing, the player must either: Take penalty relief outside the penalty area under Rule 17.1d or 17.2, or; Take free relief by dropping the original ball or another ball in this relief area (if it exists) in the penalty area (see Rule 14.3)" Sorry to geek out on you there lol
You cannot play a ball if it is going hurt new trees. You do not get a drop out of the hazard. Ste should have had a free drop (lateral or backwards), but still in the hazard.
Barlow absolutely should have gotten a free drop. Regardless of being in the penalty areas his swing would have been impeded by the staked trees. The stakes are there to protect the trees. You can choose to play within the penalty area so you’ve basically had Barlow’s eyes out!
Liam is definitely correct - there is no relief of any kind while in a hazard area. Only relief is to move it out of the hazard and take a stroke. Good to keep a rule book in the golf bag so it can be settled on course nest time. Still fun to watch.
You don’t get free relief from an immovable object, such as a tree with the ball in a red-staked penalty area. Your options are to play the ball as it lies or take relief from the penalty area for a one-stroke penalty. Even with a local tule on the trees you would take it out and drop.
Great video guys. Firstly, red stakes should be both sides to totally define the hazard area - A staked tree covered by a Local Rule is not an obstruction but is covered by Rule 24-2. One difference is that a player is entitled to relief without penalty even if the staked tree is in a water hazard. However, the ball MUST be dropped inside the hazard.
@@chriscollier3197 you cannot just declare a ball lost, hence Liam was keen to find it and mr B said the clock was ticking. You have in theory to look for it then declare it lost (after 3 mins) the fact it was found then meant it was in play.
Love the video, well done guys. Bentham looks amazing - I WANT TO PLAY BENTHAM! - On another note, LIAM, my wife loves your videos so much that you and the guys have inspired her to take up golf. A few lessons and today was her first time on a course - The Laurels at Charnock Richard - she did so well. Would love to know if you are ever going there to play, Young Josh plays there. Keep up the amazing work.
I want to play Bentham. Great video and a great looking course. Thank goodness the rule dispute didn’t affect the result, keep up the good work Liam. 😁
I have just seen this and am keen to find out who was right. I agree with Mr. B that you would not find staked trees in a hazard. I am wondering if Liam had him in with a bit of rules trickery.
Very well played Mr B Liam Liam bad club choice on that par 3 .go back to one of your videos and aim for the back of the green .lol lovely course again.
Liam is correct on the rule. Ball was hit into the hazard, ball is considered LOST or OUT OF PLAY,.. 1. Player hits provisional, within scorecard length of original lie, one stroke lost, play on once announced 2. Player takes drop at nearest point of entry into hazard, based on flight and path, no more than 2 club lengths away from hazard, or neareast area of relief, no closer to the hole, loss of stroke, play continues at next stroke count until hole is finished. Balls recovered from hazard does NOT save loss of stroke if put back into play, but puttinto play and playing the WRONG BALL could be loss of hole in match play or a DQ in INDIVIDUAL competition. Even though you found the ball and recovered it from the hazard, its considered lost. It must be declared BACK IN PLAY to the rules official, then you can use it to take a drop, declaring your PROVISIONAL NO LONGER IN PLAY. At that point, you must go through taking the drop, recover the provisional and repair your ballmark. Then you may take your shot from the drop point. Mr Barlow shouldve just left it out of play and taken the provisional. LOVE THESE VIDEOS WITH MR BARLOW!!!! Love the way he chirps at Liam to "put him under pressure"!! 😂
Great playing Mr B. You definitely got Liam's number at the moment. Plus you are driving beautifullly. As Liam said " his brain is full of worms," From what Mr B says are "the 2,683 lessons Liam has had." 😁👍☺ Thanks Joe, as always!
Funny stuff! "I want to play Bentam" Or any other course in the UK, for that matter. My 10th great grandfather came from there some 400 odd years ago. I've been there once, but only for a brief layover at Mildenhall on my way back from Germany.
Comment below who is right? 🤔 What is the rule 😬 ??
You can play a shot out of a red-staked hazard. I guess the question is whether Mr. Barlow would get a free drop due to interference from a man-made object while in the hazard. I think rule #17.1.E would apply here? "If a player’s ball is in a penalty area, and is outside a no play zone but a no play zone (whether in an abnormal course condition or in a penalty area) interferes with his or her area of intended stance or area of intended swing, the player must either: Take penalty relief outside the penalty area under Rule 17.1d or 17.2, or; Take free relief by dropping the original ball or another ball in this relief area (if it exists) in the penalty area (see Rule 14.3)" Sorry to geek out on you there lol
You cannot play a ball if it is going hurt new trees.
You do not get a drop out of the hazard. Ste should have had a free drop (lateral or backwards), but still in the hazard.
There has to be a local rule so both could be right. I expect he should have had a free drop.
Barlow absolutely should have gotten a free drop. Regardless of being in the penalty areas his swing would have been impeded by the staked trees. The stakes are there to protect the trees. You can choose to play within the penalty area so you’ve basically had Barlow’s eyes out!
Local rules apply, but a free drop is allowed for staked trees in a hazard
Joe's sneaky appearance on the first hole is worth the price of admission alone. Great scenes. Great video
Halfway through this video and laughing my head off, just great content boys! 😃
“Nearly topped that!!”…….as it goes 1 foot off the floor!!!! 😂😂
Love when Liam and Barlow play a match, you 2 get so serious sometimes. I thought Barlow was going to start throwing bows on that hazard call lol
That first shot, it's like the only word your brain registered was water. Beautiful. 🤣
That was an awesome video! Great banter, always great to see you two lads on the course! Cheers!!
Nice job Mr. Barlow! Good to have you on the channel again. Thanks for taking us with again today.
Every time I see these two play together they remind me of father and son. Wonderful camaraderie and a joy to watch.
I thought it was Lee Mack and Bobby Ball from Not Going Out
Great videos from the Scotland series. Keep up the great work joe and the Bolton bangers. Its like carlsberg when 5pm comes around lol
Cracking video. Mr B has some unbelievable one liners. Bentham looks a great course. Well played Mr B.
Just watching now with my tea, keep the videos up lads, always a good watch 👍🏻
Great match! I love seeing you and Mr. Barlow have at it. Always give me a great laugh, instead of crying so hard at my own game.😂
Love your video,the best way to play golf, with a smile, would love to play Bantham. Have visited looks a great course
Boy do I love to hear that tune!!!! 🎶THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL, THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL🎶 BARMY ARMY BOOOM💪🏼
Love the banter between you 2, keep up the great videos
Been waiting all day for the video to come out and as always its amazing and course looks beautiful
Lol…. You pair of wind ups crack me up! 😂👍
Cant wait to see Omp playing with his new clubs. I predict his new 7 wood will be his favourite Doris
Liam is definitely correct - there is no relief of any kind while in a hazard area. Only relief is to move it out of the hazard and take a stroke. Good to keep a rule book in the golf bag so it can be settled on course nest time. Still fun to watch.
I’m new to this channel and i have binge watched ALOT of the video’s. Just GREAT !
Hillarious you lot are!
Brilliant video guys. What a great course too. I want to play Bentham
Another great video, Mr B is back! Brilliant to see two mates loving life. I want to play Bentham.
You don’t get free relief from an immovable object, such as a tree with the ball in a red-staked penalty area.
Your options are to play the ball as it lies or take relief from the penalty area for a one-stroke penalty. Even with a local tule on the trees you would take it out and drop.
Excellent video as always. Good crack around the course. The way it should be playing with mates.
"I want to play bentham" great vid yet again lads . A little more tension than normal adds to it 🤣🤣
Great video gents! Top banter as usual.
I want to play Bentham
Best I’ve seen in ages 👍well played Steve
I want to play Bentham. Great videos. Looking forward to the ones with Simon!
Another quality video , love it when Mr B starts singing when he is about to win 😂, I want to play Bentham
I want to play Bentham.
My husband would absolutely love this and what better present for fathers day. Great work guys.🤞🤞
you knew it was gonna in the drink the second you said it!!! awesome video, entertaining!!!
I want to play Bentham! Played there a couple of years ago. Lovely course and great videos
Great video guys.
Firstly, red stakes should be both sides to totally define the hazard area - A staked tree covered by a Local Rule is not an obstruction but is covered by Rule 24-2. One difference is that a player is entitled to relief without penalty even if the staked tree is in a water hazard. However, the ball MUST be dropped inside the hazard.
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States was on the other side Colin.
Mr B should have called lost ball then played his provisional next to the pin…..
Isn't that nearer the hole??
@@chriscollier3197 you cannot just declare a ball lost, hence Liam was keen to find it and mr B said the clock was ticking. You have in theory to look for it then declare it lost (after 3 mins) the fact it was found then meant it was in play.
I want to play Bentham. Great video again lads. Love the games between you pair always gives me a good laugh ⛳️🏌🏿♂️
I want to play Bentham. Thank you Liam, love hearing your banter with Mr.Barlow 😊
Love the banter with you two guys, I want to play Bentham
Properly funny lads, brilliant film 👏👏
As always very entertaining, great golf course and great fun to watch when Mr B is around
I want to play Bentham. Great video as always Liam and the gang 👏👏👏👏🏌🏻♂️
Things that cause problems on a golf course: ego, gambling, lack of ability
love the videos still with a regular upload schedule keep it up 💙💙
4 videos a week
Love the video, well done guys. Bentham looks amazing - I WANT TO PLAY BENTHAM! - On another note, LIAM, my wife loves your videos so much that you and the guys have inspired her to take up golf. A few lessons and today was her first time on a course - The Laurels at Charnock Richard - she did so well. Would love to know if you are ever going there to play, Young Josh plays there. Keep up the amazing work.
Good show..."I want to play Bentham". I still say that Barlows HDCP is too high. Glad that you have fun though.
I want to play Bentham. Great video and a great looking course. Thank goodness the rule dispute didn’t affect the result, keep up the good work Liam. 😁
Yet again another great video from laurel and hardy. I want to play Bentham please
Great video Golfmates 👍 I WANT TO PLAY BENTHAM looks a nice course 🏌♂️
I want to play Bentham. Lovely looking course chaps and another belter of a video!
I want to play Bentham. Awesome video as always. Keep up the great work guys
If you are in the hazard you have to play where it lies or take a drop but what do local rules say?
I want to play Bentham. Well played both of you and great work by Joe.
Just about choked to death laughing at the pond ball 🤣
Great video. Laughed all the way through.
I have just seen this and am keen to find out who was right. I agree with Mr. B that you would not find staked trees in a hazard.
I am wondering if Liam had him in with a bit of rules trickery.
I want to play Bentham
Ste's laugh gets me every time. It's infectious.
Very well played Mr B Liam Liam bad club choice on that par 3 .go back to one of your videos and aim for the back of the green .lol lovely course again.
Liam is correct on the rule. Ball was hit into the hazard, ball is considered LOST or OUT OF PLAY,..
1. Player hits provisional, within scorecard length of original lie, one stroke lost, play on once announced
2. Player takes drop at nearest point of entry into hazard, based on flight and path, no more than 2 club lengths away from hazard, or neareast area of relief, no closer to the hole, loss of stroke, play continues at next stroke count until hole is finished.
Balls recovered from hazard does NOT save loss of stroke if put back into play, but puttinto play and playing the WRONG BALL could be loss of hole in match play or a DQ in INDIVIDUAL competition.
Even though you found the ball and recovered it from the hazard, its considered lost. It must be declared BACK IN PLAY to the rules official, then you can use it to take a drop, declaring your PROVISIONAL NO LONGER IN PLAY. At that point, you must go through taking the drop, recover the provisional and repair your ballmark. Then you may take your shot from the drop point.
Mr Barlow shouldve just left it out of play and taken the provisional.
LOVE THESE VIDEOS WITH MR BARLOW!!!! Love the way he chirps at Liam to "put him under pressure"!! 😂
I want to play Bentham!! Could do with a trip this year 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
I want to play Bentham.
Great vid again. Mr Barlow back at his best. 😂😂👍
I want to play Bentham. Another fantastic video guys.
King of the banter, played well Mr b.
Great playing Mr B. You definitely got Liam's number at the moment. Plus you are driving beautifullly. As Liam said " his brain is full of worms," From what Mr B says are "the 2,683 lessons Liam has had." 😁👍☺ Thanks Joe, as always!
Honestly liam your videos have got me through a terrible breakup. Never stop laughing 😂 would love to play golf with you guys
I want to play Bentham. Thanks for keeping the golf real, showing the good and bad shots 👏
Outstanding but also shocking!
Funny stuff! "I want to play Bentam" Or any other course in the UK, for that matter. My 10th great grandfather came from there some 400 odd years ago. I've been there once, but only for a brief layover at Mildenhall on my way back from Germany.
Good morning both of you, wen ever both of you playing or playing with Mr pat I enjoy the game
I want to play Bentham.
Fair play Steve, played some cracking golf there Gadgy!
LIam, At 15:50 when Ste hit his provisional close to the hole, you should have tried a "Back to the Future"!
Great stuff.👏Would be great fun playing with you both 👍Keep up the great content 👍⛳️
Fabulous start to the vlog especially when Sky Sports Joe makes an appearance. Great looking course and great banter.
Don’t worry joe there’s a main coming 😂😂 love it
Fantastic golf match lads. Loved it!
Always a great laugh! Cheers boys!
Class Barlow lad I want to play Bentham loved it last year when you played it
Another top video guys.
I want to play Bentham.
Liam you are correct with the ruling. Sorry Mr B
Don’t worry Liam I had a shocker today as well it was that bad if I would’ve dropped my club it would’ve missed the ground 😂
I want to play Bentham. What a great vlog yet again good work lads
Brilliant video I want to play Bentham golf club
What a great video.. Really enjoyed
I want to play Bentham
Sir Slice-a-lot has morphed into Sir hits it Straight-a-lot! Well played Mr B
I want to play bentham. Cracking video lads
I want to play Bentham! Great course, top banter lads 👍👍
I want to play bentham.. great vid guys
"Comment below..7 handicapper " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wanna play Bentham....... Another great video gents. Keep them coming
BBBBOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!
I freakin luv it! Way to go Mr. B!
I would like to play Bentham . Great video gents .
You guys have the most fun.
Love this little former !!
Steve wasn’t happy about the trees in the hazard 😂😂
Well played Mr B. Better luck next time liam
I want to play Bentham. Looks like a great course! Well played Mr B. Nice one. Enjoy your mains!!!
Great course and views across the dales.
I want to play Bentham, hopefully with you two 😉 what an entertaining pair you are, well played Mr Barlow 👏
Brilliant 👏 love the banter 😂
I want to play Bentham
I’d love to play Bentham. Cracking video boys
I want to play Bentham. Was almost going to book a pod here for a few weeks time so would be ideal 👍🏻
Great video as always lands! 'I want to play Bentham'
Good video lads! Good job Mr.B!
Great to hear Joe sounds happy too!!
Booooooom!!
I want to play Bentham with Steve... I love his statements on last hole.. His course management ... Awesome
I want to play Bentham! Great video again, Barlow is on the march.