Can you heat a campervan from a 12 Volt battery? 350w InfraRed Heating Panel MirrorStone NXT GEN
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
- In this video we try out a 350w Infra Red Heating panel both on hook up and battery to see how it performs.
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Thanks glad it's helpful. We do try to have some varied topics, so to prepare you, we do have a couple of e-bike videos coming up! But they are mixed in with others on running AirCon from a portable power pack, a new WiFi solution and improving Solar Panel efficiency so hopefully we can keep you interested.
Happy travels!
Great review! Not for me just yet but it's getting there. But like you say, in your usage - spot on 👍
I watch all your videos but I'm lazy and and never bother commenting 😂. So I thought I'd pop in and say thank you the videos are a great breakdown of equipment for travelling and well thought out.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. You saved me so much time man because i had planned to do this same experiment. Thank you so much
I plan on implementing oil radiators.. they are slow to heat but once they get there they do a good job for little electricity.
They are definitely an option to consider, especially when on hook-up, we used one for a few years. There are a few things that for us make the infra panel a better option: Smaller and lighter for same power output, more flexible to mount, warms you and objects/surfaces directly rather than the air in the van which can easily be lost when the door is opened. As you say it is quicker for you to feel the effects of the warmth, but doesn't retain the heat like an oil-filled radiator.
Whatever you choose hope it works out for you.
I would love it if you could find some sort of under floor heating for in vans. I live full time in my van I and keep it warm in winter but the floor is always cold
I'll keep an eye out for anything - there are 12v underfloor heating options and I know some use Hydronic heating.
Unfortunately it would be quite a job to retro fit it to our van so probably not something we would actually test out.
We can highly recommend lots of underfloor insulation and also carpet in the van in winter - it makes a huge difference!
Espar S3 hydronics and tubes embedded in XPS insulation.... major retrofit though. Surely someone makes electric rugs?
My biggest concern with this type of panel is it setup to use mains (AC) power which incurs inverter losses. Would think a better approach is source a similar panel which can use DC power.
Hi, yes this is a consideration to make, by having an inverter that is sized appropriately and therefore most efficient at the load required you could minimise this.
I'm not aware of any low voltage IR panels, this could be for various reasons:
1) The technology may require the higher voltage of mains to work
2) The market for low voltage panels is probably significantly smaller than for mains panels making them not fiancially viable
3) The practicality of installing low voltage high / wattage appliances eg if a 12v 350W panel was available it would draw 30 Amps at 12 Volts which would need something like 5 AWG / 14 sq.mm cable for a 4 meter run.
Fogstar drift 460Ah only 1200 ;-)
Getting cheaper by the month!
At the end of the day, Watts are Watts. A given amount of space requires a certain amount of Watts to heat it to a given temperature , all other things being equal (air exchanges etc). Modern leccy heaters convert electrical energy to heat energy very efficiently, getting close to 100%, so the often seen wonder claims of manufacturers are simply nonsense. Limiting is always going to be energy storage.
Totally agree - nothing can create more watts of heat from fewer watts of energy. However how effectively those watts of energy are transformed to heat and how that heat is transferred to what you want to heat does vary dependant on the method.
You also need to factor in the effectiveness of the insulation / window types as well as the volume to be heated when determining how many watts are needed for heating a gievn space.
Things to consider
Any heater with an element that is seen to glow - you are losing some watts to light energy rather than heat energy.
Blown air and convection heaters (such as oil filled radiators) you are transferring the heat energy to the air in the van - that can easily be lost if the door is opened - and that hot air then needs to transfer the heat energy to you and the items in your van to make them warm introducing some losses and ineffectiveness.
WIth Far IR the items and yourself are are heated via radiation rather than convection so you are not reliant on the movement of air and heat transfer from the air - making it in my view a better and more effective choice. But it may not be the right choice for everyone.
Energy storage and generation are obvioulsy a factor but with the price of storage coming down and the effectiveness of new chemistries going up drastically over the last few years, plus the efficiency of generation (from solar for example) increasing, we're getting to a point where the whole scenario of electric heating off grid being a possibility even if it is only for short term off grid and in certain circumstances. In the coming years I predict this will only get better!
@@ExploreVanUK "nothing can create more watts of heat from fewer watts of energy." a heat pump can 😉 (OK, it doesn't "create" it but the effect is the same and there are other drawbacks, like space, cost, noise, etc.)
@LucaOlivetti Ah, heat pumps and phase change, if you ignore the energy extracted from the outside air or ground yes.
If only there were a small, compact, robust and reasonably priced air source heat pump set up.
Last time I looked no manufacturer had brought one to production for mobile use but a few were talking about it.
Could well be the next big thing!
Nice, but the title says 12v. 🤷🏼
The section from 6:19 tests it running from a 12v battery via an inverter.
@@ExploreVanUK so it's a 240v device. It's quite a misleading title for anyone without an inverter.
Unfortunately the laws of physics pretty much dictate there is no way you could heat any reasonable space without increasing the voltage as the current required at 12 volts would need very large cabling to feed the required current.
You can get a 400w inverter for less than £50 if you don’t already have one.