My company deals in pure trace elements taken from the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. Watching this, I think we'll start testing it to see how it does. BTW, these trace elements are a fantastic fertilizer for poor soil.
Great topic guys. Very logical and sensible aproach. Can you publish ICP results what elements we can find dissolving calcium reactor media. If yes also what media did you used. Best regards for BRS team
I’ve been questioning myself over time: are all trace elements really desirable or good? Just because the tank is consuming is not an answer they’re good for corals. Sometimes I feel we could be feeding even nuissance organisms instead, dinos being one good example: one important action when fighting dinos is just to stop trace elements replenishment and even avoid water changes. Old tanks seemed to go over many nuissance algae blooms before maturing: could depletion of some not so wanted elements be part of that. We actually need better insight of this that I believe will come to light some day...
I use seachem reef trace and salifert all in one once a week and my corals are thriving….tried other products but they caused more trouble with algae etc…also have Red Sea coral pro salt when I do water change witch is not often
I recently learned that flowerpot corals (goniopora and its buddies) require you to maintain manganese and (I want to say vanadium but I could be wrong) to thrive long-term.
Unfortunately, we simply can't carry every product out there. We feel like Triton is the leader in this type of system, so they're the brand that we've decided to carry.
Because they are very concentrated and once you bought it,it hold very long time,it is actually the most cheap on the market and all in just two products,this is not good for business
@@tomg5405 well I don't know their business model but essentials pro is amazing stuff and their are beautiful reefs all over the world that uses it as well
Did you guys ever do the ICP testing on the calcium reactor media, you mentioned it in the video, but I haven't been able to find it. Also, did you guys ever test the mag supplement for the calcium reactors? I've always run Mag media with my calcium reactor trying to help keep up the mag, but your in-depth insights would be invaluable.
I had dosed the KZ 1/2/3/4 and the KZ Coral Boost with KZ Flatworm Stop. I did notice my Acro's polyp extension was really impressive. I'd like to start back dosing micros with something more economical. Any idea on which KZ product is known for causing the Polyp extension? That's something that I would like get back.
Check out KZ's Pohl's Xtra. We've been using it (along with other KZ products) on the BRS160 for a while now and have been seeing great results in the polyp extension department.
Is it true that certain trace elements affect specific coral color? Like, does more iron, for example, mean more green? I feel like it is really hard to tell because things like acropora change colors on their own a lot.
KZ Ocean complex,KH plus,Calcium plus,bio mate,sponge power,as per instructions.. RS A/B plus daily I like to underdose slightly..error on the side of caution,lol. My fish are colorful and vibrant,inverts too. Thing is I can grow anything but,not coraline alge..what am I leaving out?
Sometimes it just takes time. Usually keeping an elevated alk level will help it grow faster, but that's pretty anecdotal advice. There are some coralline in a bottle type products out there, specifically from ARC Reef, that might help you establish coralline if that's a goal of yours.
I just started Coraline growth after my tank has been setup for 5 months. a lot of snails and hermit shell I bough had Coraline when I got them about 4 months back but it just took time for it to spread. Not sure if its a coincidence but my coraline started growing at the same time as I got hair algea and a cyano outbreak.
Bluer spectrum light seems to be beneficial. Keeping your pH and alkalinity elevated and not letting it fall below natural seawater. I want to look into the coralline in a bottle, but making sure you have existing snails with coralline or rocks will definitely get coralline growing.
Some fish and coral foods may contain aminos, but most don't have trace element included. At least, not enough of them to make a measurable difference.
How did we ever make it before trace elements were available for dosing? 😂🤣😂 So if our tank has been thriving and growing for many years without dosing trace elements, why start? I may give it a shot for the hell of it on the new build.
They pretty much answered that in the first two minutes of the video. It’s for incremental improvements in colouration, not for overall success in reefing.
The problem is that we can´t measure trace elements yet. ICP is a joke and Triton is complete crap. Well that being said I´m using carbocalcium as my main source of alk and calcium and because I´m reaching the maximum carbocalcium dose I´m dosing a little bit of topic marin balling to reach my alk goal ( around 8 ) . My SPS tank is running fantastic. First of all balling and salts has impurities, and guess what, those impurities are trace elements. Kalk has impurities, food has impurities and all those impurities are trace elements. So, a lot of tanks really doesn´t need any kind of trace element supplementation. Best Regards
I do agree for a large part with you man, especially when you would feed a lot of (diverse) foods and coral foods, then i'm quite positive trace elements will also be taken up from the food/coral food. However, when running a cheato reactor or large refugium, algae could easily outcompete the corals for trace elements... also, while i'm positive most trace elements are in foods and coral foods (and fish poo for that matter), i am not sure if trace elements . In the end, trace elements are necessary for metabolic functions and thus also growth, therefore i hypothesize that when missing some trace elements, it could potentially inhibit growth of corals. But surely interesting stuff and in hope future icp technologies will become much cheaper, so we get a larger window in the metabolic health of our corals! not only useful in reef tanks but potentially also for corals in the wild!
Why’s ICP a joke? Are they unable to accurately measure the elements they claim to? And give us a link to your tank, because right now you’re just a guy with a keyboard.
@@glasscanvasart5273 ICP’s are no joke, although they are not as accurate as they claim (especially not for trace elements, as these are extremely difficult and expensive to measure accurate). But they are great to see if your tank is “sailing in the right direction” in the sense that for instance there is no build up of heavy metals or other pollutants. But even next to those there are many substances ICP cant measure! So its the best afforable thing at the moment.
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Thanks BRS for another awesome conversation, you guys rule.
Great episode BRS!
Love these videos! They are so educational.
Great video again guys
Finally a video with u guys !!!!!
My company deals in pure trace elements taken from the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. Watching this, I think we'll start testing it to see how it does. BTW, these trace elements are a fantastic fertilizer for poor soil.
Please can you do a video on all for reef
Great topic guys. Very logical and sensible aproach.
Can you publish ICP results what elements we can find dissolving calcium reactor media. If yes also what media did you used.
Best regards for BRS team
I’ve been questioning myself over time: are all trace elements really desirable or good? Just because the tank is consuming is not an answer they’re good for corals. Sometimes I feel we could be feeding even nuissance organisms instead, dinos being one good example: one important action when fighting dinos is just to stop trace elements replenishment and even avoid water changes. Old tanks seemed to go over many nuissance algae blooms before maturing: could depletion of some not so wanted elements be part of that. We actually need better insight of this that I believe will come to light some day...
Digging the shirt Ryan 🍻 and agreed yall
I use seachem reef trace and salifert all in one once a week and my corals are thriving….tried other products but they caused more trouble with algae etc…also have Red Sea coral pro salt when I do water change witch is not often
Is using my auto top off a bad idea to use for dosing my trace elements? I have a 5g container that i use for my auto top off
I recently learned that flowerpot corals (goniopora and its buddies) require you to maintain manganese and (I want to say vanadium but I could be wrong) to thrive long-term.
How come you guys dont sell ATI essentials? That stuff similar to triton but its in 2 parts.
Unfortunately, we simply can't carry every product out there. We feel like Triton is the leader in this type of system, so they're the brand that we've decided to carry.
@@BRStv thanks
Because they are very concentrated and once you bought it,it hold very long time,it is actually the most cheap on the market and all in just two products,this is not good for business
@@tomg5405 well I don't know their business model but essentials pro is amazing stuff and their are beautiful reefs all over the world that uses it as well
@@SDot-dp9xm I not say is bad I us it too actually, but I'm not 100%satisfied, but it probably the best quality/cost on the market
Did you guys ever do the ICP testing on the calcium reactor media, you mentioned it in the video, but I haven't been able to find it. Also, did you guys ever test the mag supplement for the calcium reactors? I've always run Mag media with my calcium reactor trying to help keep up the mag, but your in-depth insights would be invaluable.
I had dosed the KZ 1/2/3/4 and the KZ Coral Boost with KZ Flatworm Stop. I did notice my Acro's polyp extension was really impressive. I'd like to start back dosing micros with something more economical. Any idea on which KZ product is known for causing the Polyp extension? That's something that I would like get back.
Check out KZ's Pohl's Xtra. We've been using it (along with other KZ products) on the BRS160 for a while now and have been seeing great results in the polyp extension department.
Is it true that certain trace elements affect specific coral color? Like, does more iron, for example, mean more green? I feel like it is really hard to tell because things like acropora change colors on their own a lot.
I does seachem trace elements. Thoughts on Seachem? I use pretty much their products exclusively but I never see yall use anything from them
Seachem makes solid products. We actually just started selling a lot of their additives, so you might see us using them more often 🙂
@@BRStv I wanted to try the Seachem plus but this contains copper it’s safe? I thought copper is bad.
What about dozing trace elements and algae problems? I stopped dozing once I started to have a bloom ! Not sure what is the best strategy?
So, when is the next Korallen-zucht sale?
Right around the corner 😉
Triton isn’t the only one. ATI Essentials pro now includes elements for refugiums.
KZ Ocean complex,KH plus,Calcium plus,bio mate,sponge power,as per instructions..
RS A/B plus daily I like to underdose slightly..error on the side of caution,lol.
My fish are colorful and vibrant,inverts too.
Thing is I can grow anything but,not coraline alge..what am I leaving out?
Sometimes it just takes time. Usually keeping an elevated alk level will help it grow faster, but that's pretty anecdotal advice. There are some coralline in a bottle type products out there, specifically from ARC Reef, that might help you establish coralline if that's a goal of yours.
I just started Coraline growth after my tank has been setup for 5 months. a lot of snails and hermit shell I bough had Coraline when I got them about 4 months back but it just took time for it to spread. Not sure if its a coincidence but my coraline started growing at the same time as I got hair algea and a cyano outbreak.
Bluer spectrum light seems to be beneficial. Keeping your pH and alkalinity elevated and not letting it fall below natural seawater. I want to look into the coralline in a bottle, but making sure you have existing snails with coralline or rocks will definitely get coralline growing.
I tried zelements nitro plus got a massive cyano out break I increased my fish stock nitrates are holding at 15 ppm
My accros and other corals are healthy but become metallic green from pink?!what could be the problem ?
All about Korallen -zucht products
Way to expensive for its benefits honestly
I'm starting to notice carbon usage is actually hurting my tank overall. I'm assuming carbon is removing trace elements.
I’ve always used carbon and no it doesn’t remove trace elements
Don't you add trace with fish and coral food also?
Some fish and coral foods may contain aminos, but most don't have trace element included. At least, not enough of them to make a measurable difference.
I had that same shirt in 1980, Ryan... rambling urban cowboy!
Cheato? Or Chaeto? ;-) 19:43
So really if you can afford the exspensive salt and do more water changes you shouldn't have to doze trace elements
Kind of overwhelming watching this.. what to do for beginners and how to test for all of them
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How did we ever make it before trace elements were available for dosing? 😂🤣😂 So if our tank has been thriving and growing for many years without dosing trace elements, why start? I may give it a shot for the hell of it on the new build.
They pretty much answered that in the first two minutes of the video. It’s for incremental improvements in colouration, not for overall success in reefing.
Went back and watched again. I missed that part.😳 Never the less, good video.
even in the mid 90's we were dosing calcium, iodine and strontium.
7:04 - Looks like an angry demon frog.
I could see that 😆
I wanna smoke weed with that dude and talk tanks. I’d be amazing
Subtitles and why off? Translation into another language then doesn't work!
Wich salts as the most elements ? Tropic marin 70? Red sea has only 54,so it is a bad choice?
Red Sea coral pro
The problem is that we can´t measure trace elements yet. ICP is a joke and Triton is complete crap. Well that being said I´m using carbocalcium as my main source of alk and calcium and because I´m reaching the maximum carbocalcium dose I´m dosing a little bit of topic marin balling to reach my alk goal ( around 8 ) . My SPS tank is running fantastic. First of all balling and salts has impurities, and guess what, those impurities are trace elements. Kalk has impurities, food has impurities and all those impurities are trace elements. So, a lot of tanks really doesn´t need any kind of trace element supplementation. Best Regards
Do you have a link to your tank?
I do agree for a large part with you man, especially when you would feed a lot of (diverse) foods and coral foods, then i'm quite positive trace elements will also be taken up from the food/coral food. However, when running a cheato reactor or large refugium, algae could easily outcompete the corals for trace elements... also, while i'm positive most trace elements are in foods and coral foods (and fish poo for that matter), i am not sure if trace elements . In the end, trace elements are necessary for metabolic functions and thus also growth, therefore i hypothesize that when missing some trace elements, it could potentially inhibit growth of corals. But surely interesting stuff and in hope future icp technologies will become much cheaper, so we get a larger window in the metabolic health of our corals! not only useful in reef tanks but potentially also for corals in the wild!
Why’s ICP a joke? Are they unable to accurately measure the elements they claim to?
And give us a link to your tank, because right now you’re just a guy with a keyboard.
@@glasscanvasart5273 ICP’s are no joke, although they are not as accurate as they claim (especially not for trace elements, as these are extremely difficult and expensive to measure accurate). But they are great to see if your tank is “sailing in the right direction” in the sense that for instance there is no build up of heavy metals or other pollutants. But even next to those there are many substances ICP cant measure! So its the best afforable thing at the moment.
I know people dont want to hear it...trace elements is key. Water changes:") will salvage all that
Lol xD got me. I do 2 part as well