@@TheBearWithOrangeFur man, when it brushed Kratos’ hand off at Brok’s funeral that hurt. For real though bro is literally fearless now. He didn’t even care during Ragnarok - he was running in head first and completely non chalant
"And now what have I got? Not even my family" that part breaks my heart😰😰, the way that the voice actor says that line truly perfect, you can feel what the pain in Sindri's Voice
On a serious note the voice performance for Sindri is phenomenal. Also love the theme at the funeral how almost everyone at Broks funeral lost a brother
If l recall, every time in God of War 2018 and Ragnarok, when someone is forging a sword, they hammer the heated part of the sword (because the sword needs to be incredibly hot in order for it to be formed into shape). But here, the sword isn’t heated. So Sindri is just angrily beating the sword until it will eventually break
Pretty sure he is using Broks hammer as well, trying to achieve the level of work his brother could make, but of course Broks work will never be created again.
When someone is hurting this bad, the worst thing you can do is talk to them. No amount of apologies can undo their suffering. You'll only upset them more.
Yeah, as much as you want to check on them and make sure they're ok, that just will make things worse, and space and time is all you can really do. Sometimes things heal by themselves, other times, it's beyond repair, you just gotta move forward and hope that they'll come around and be back to their old self
I know this is an old comment but spot on. You see it at the funeral, Sindri keeps it together, seems to be mourning the right way until Kratos talks to him, if Kratos hadn't spoken, he wouldn't have left as he did and might have spent more time with his friends.
@@Dylbz-ne8st that's not a fair comparison, because literally part of kratos's character is that after everything, he tries to show little emotion. You are using a actual canon trait of a character as a way to say another voice actor was better.
Sindri is grieving and will of course react this way and I think it's only fair. But I hate watching those reactors who just put the sole blame on Atreus as if the rest of the group weren't fooled by Odin too. Furthermore, Atreus never asked Sindri for anything; helping him with the shrines, helping him with realm travel, letting the group stay in his home, going to Jorgunmandr and Freya's ... all of those were Sindri's own choice. I think a lot of his anger (esp towards Atreus) is a manifestation of his own self-hatred and guilt for now condemning his brother to an eternity of unrest since his soul is not whole and cannot rest in the light .....
@@jadenwilliams615 when a mob boss gives you a choice, both options will be to your detriment, no matter how good they make it sound Plus, Odin saying he won't do anything to them doesn't mean shit, that's like, I won't kill you, but my enforcer will It was in their best interests to seek out Tyr anyways, as atreus made clear once kratos got home from fighting Thor
Yeah but atreus ask too much of sindir took way too much of advantage of his kindness hell he forced him into it even attacked him without so much and I'm sorry please or thank you until it was too late
@@adamtheriault6743 He didn’t ask him yeah but he did it because he was his friend. Sindri cared deeply for Atreus and was only looking out for his safety. Of course he’s gonna keep an eye on him, cause god forbid something happens to him, it’d literally be a repeat of the first 3 games with Kratos slaughtering all of Asgard.
Man... Adam J. Harrington portrayal of a broken Sindri is just absolutely astonishing. His voice when he says "Not even my family" just melted my heart and the pain he transmits is so palpable you can't help but feel it all over your being. Masterful acting!
It is even sadder that when you are on the way to tyr temple to find sindri, atreus ask mimir if there are any ways to revive brok. He sadly said: there is no answer for that because he already lost a part of his soul. So when he died, he cannot enter the lake of soul in alfheim (which is the afterlife).
I have a weird theory about that. People talk like Brok's direction piece is gone. It's not gone. It's in the lake. Brok didn't really, really lose his direction, we know where it is, it's just not in him. When we see a part of Fenrir's soul ender the knife, the other bits scattered in all directions. IU think that the piece that entered the knife was Fenrir's Direction. And that over time, it called the other pieces back to itself. That's why Angrboda doesn't say "there's part of a soul in your knife," she says "who's the soul in your knife?" In other words, the Direction may be able to call other soulbits to itself even when they're scattered, like Brok's soul is. Meaning that, even without the Direction being in Brok, because that direction is still in the Lake of Souls, it may still function as a homing beacon and pull the rest of Brok to itself. And thus Brok gets an afterlife after all.
I'm so glad to see someone actually remembered that part about one of broks soul parts still being in the lake and that maybe he's not completely gone just incomplete. I also like your idea about the souls direction possibly calling back the rest of the soul. Brok is too great to not get an afterlife
How the fuck did not a single person in this video not even shed a single tear?! The way the voice actor delivered the line "And now what have I got? Not even my family...." was the absolute breaking point for me...i cried so much...
I think people miss the part where he says but some of us were bigger fools then others, then proceeds to say what he did for atreus, I think what he's trying to say is HE was the biggest fool for doing all those things for Atreus, while Atreus is the second most to blame because in the end all of this was mainly because of Atreus' quest for war on asgard he spent the entire first half of the game attempting to convince Kratos that war needed to happen and it was also his fault they tried looking for Tyr to begin with because of the prophecy he read after asking sindri for help
He's still a kid, and growing up to seeing how his actions have consequences is part of growth. Kratos had to deal with it, and he has to as well. It really shows by the end of the game how much it payed off
@@pricefieldx The point isn't that he is excused of them because of good deeds afterwards. The point is that the consequences have actually hit him where he wasn't expecting it and he has to carry that with him for the rest of his life. He's not going to forgets those events happened. That's not the kind of god he is. He's caring, righteous, and stubborn. He's too much of kind soul that wanted the best for everyone around him, but didn't realize the choices he's made were affecting his loved ones. Now that it has, he has to experience the pain of it going forward into the future. This will undoubtedly haunt him for a very long while, but no use stopping the tracks when there's still things he need to do. He made the biggest mistakes of his life. And the consequences will continue (cuz God of War can't give anyone a break). But at least he'll have the experience to try and not make the same mistakes twice. Emphasis on " *try* ".
@@StarChaserHooT I like his dead pan delivery but he's not a fun person to watch live streams or reactions with. He always reacts to everything like he's unimpressed.
Hits even harder when you realize Sindri is using Broks hammer to strike the sword. The fact that no matter if he uses Broks hammer, he won't ever achieve Broks work because he is not his brother. It will always feel incomplete without both brands. That's a very good story telling detail for me.
It's not Atreus' fault, he was manipulated by Odin like everyone else. Brok would want for Sindri to forgive them. Sindri will realize that, but he'll need time.
@@aaronjohnson1286 it was the only way. The game expressly tells us Kratos trying to be uninvolved would never work. Odin was going to hurt people no matter what and ignoring him was not the answer.
I may get put infront of a firing squad if I say this but I am… *Sindri has every right to be mad at Atreus and Atreus needed someone to show actions have consequences* Let me explain, Atreus was becoming a miniature Odin with his actions, telling half truths, being incredibly rude when faced with criticism and trying to find answer to a question no one asked. Atreus needed a slice of humble pie.
An amazing commentator said it perfectly By Splunkmastah Throughout the game we see that Sindri has been tagging along with Atreus on his search for Tyr out of a sense of duty to protect him. However, it's clear that even though Atreus calls him his partner, it's a one-way partnership. Even when We play as Atreus with Sindri accompanying us, Atreus constantly tells him to stop worrying and to just help him fight the bandits and draugr they come across, despite Sindri being correct. Going to Freya is a horrible idea, waking up the World Serpent is also pretty dicey, but it's clear that Atreus has never once listened to Sindri. So why is Sindri still hanging around Atreus? Because he doesn't want anything to happen to him, And because if the worst happens, and HE has to be the one to tell Kratos that "Oh yeah we've been sneaking out behind your back and I've known the whole time and didn't tell you" it wouldn't exactly go well. Then you have Atreus and Sindri's argument before Atreus's arrival at Asguard, followed by an enraged Atreus swiping Sindri to the side like he meant nothing. Because that's how Sindri's starting to see it. The little shit won't listen to him, he keeps putting himself and Sindri in danger and then strings him along by saying "Ayy Sin, we're partners!" Sindri thought he could calm Atreus, get him to revert back into his human form based on their 'partnership' and its a literal slap in the face to Sindri that he apparently doesn't have enough rapport to calm Atreus down. (Of course we know that it takes all of Kratos's strength to hold Atreus down until he regains control, but Sindri doesn't know that. All he knows is that Kratos can calm him down while he, the alleged partner, can't) After this point in the game, Sindri begins holding a grudge against Atreus, ostensibly for the wound on his head, but possibly because he's also beginning to see the extent of Atreus's manipulation, intentional or otherwise. Then you have Brok's death at the hand of Odin disguised as Tyr. The same Tyr that Atreus had spent so long trying to find, the same one that Sindri had helped him find. Sindri was right. He gave everything, and now all he has is nothing because they just kept taking. He's right when he says "There is no we, it's always just been you. No matter the cost" Kratos redeemed himself a bit in Sindri's eyes when he shows up at Brok's funeral, but guess who didn't show up? The same little shit that got him killed, because "Ayy Time To Go On Another Adventure!" 1 know Atreus loved Brok. And I know Atreus wasn't trying to manipulate Sindri. But that's how Sindri sees it, and now he sees that this kid who fucked up in every possible way can't even bother to show up and face the dwarf he so wronged, can't bother to see the consequences of what he's done; a ruined friendship, a destroyed sense of trust, and the horribly bleak death of a close friend. Atreus really lived up the moniker of Loki in his treatment of Sindri. It's not our intentions, but the consequences of those intentions, that shape the world's view of us. And Atreus is looking like quite the Trickster right about now. If I were Sindri, I'd hate the little shit too.
Sindri tagged along because he loved him. Going to Freya wasn’t a terrible idea, she let him go just like Atreus said she would. Waking up Jormungandr did nothing bad? Idk what you meant there. Atreus didn’t go to the funeral because Sindri told him (not Kratos, him) to stay away and continued to be hostile during the battle despite Atreus trying to protect him. He was respecting Sindri’s wishes. (He even said “I thought we were his family” showing he sees how much Sindri has rejected him.) Atreus had just learned his father was going to die and had adults ganging up on him and he lost control of new powers in a high stress situation, he had also attacked Kratos earlier. Atreus is a child in a really bad situation and the only one at fault is Odin. Atreus was right that Odin needed to be stopped, he was terrorizing multiple realms and killed his own son in cold blood.
Sindri genuinely care for atreus and kratos, just like they say hate is born from love, the more you love them the bigger the hatred will be when you feel betrayed by them
Every time Sindri's voice broke emotionally when he said "And now what have I got?" made me cry deeply and feel sorry for him since he and Brok were the best characters since God of War 2018. I'm a little worried he'll end up a villain like Freya.
I just notice that when Sindri said "there is no We. There is only You" Atreus shakes his head, saying that this is not true. a small but cool detail to point out.
Exactly atreus never felt modesty on Sindri, he always acted with anger everytime none of his friends agreed with him and through his selfishness a "loss" was assumed.
I remember seeing someone else point out that when Atreus says "I thought we were his family-" you could hear Sindri make a subtle noise/sob that kind of implies that he still cares about them
Somewhere Roger Ebert is up in heaven watchin this scene on a large majestic projection screen in the sky, saying to himself, "Damn I guess I was wrong. Videogames ARE art."
You know what gets me... How DIRTY he is. Sindri would never have allowed himself to get that way, he's been broken to his very core, to the point where it's overpowered his neuroses.
Not Atreus' fault but he was the one who kept asking everybody to trust him, and the one who trusted him the most paid for it. Somebody had to stop sugar coating and spoiling him
Well ya, for awhile Atreus was doing the same thing Odin did, he was determined to find the awnsers he was looking for no matter what he had to do, but becuase he knows the lengths Odin DID go for all those hundreds of years thanks to history and having people to teach him what’s right he caught himself and corrected his path, sadly it was to late to fix everything that was a result of that over ambition to truth seeking and fate changing
I myself have two brothers, one older and one younger. I couldn’t imagine losing either of them, I can only imagine how Sindri feels. The pain in his voice as he says “Not even my family.” absolutely devastated me.
I saw an analogy given by one of the minds behind GOWR talking about Sindri's character change in the game, and he mentioned that Sindri reminded him of the story of The Giving Tree. A story about giving, and giving, and giving to others until all that's left of you is a stump. Sindri is that stump after Brok's death. He always did everything for others, and in the end, everything was taken from him. I can't blame him for being as bitter and broken as he is by the end. I was really hoping he would turn it around before the credits, but you don't just get over that type of trauma. He needs time, and there's no guarantee he'll ever forgive Kratos and Atreus.
Sindri is a perfect example of the giving tree he gives and gives and gives till he has nothing left. So i really dont blame him telling atreus and kratos to f off.
Not only has he lost brok again he's lost him forever. The soul piece he was missing was direction making him incapable of getting to the lake of souls, denying him an afterlife. He knows that and it's weighing very heavily on him.
I felt the same way when my own mother passed away due to chest infection pneumonia in April this year, for when I was grieving and I know exactly how Sindri feels after Brok was killed by Odin, it's by far the most painful experience when losing a loved one.
it breaks my heart seeing sindri like this, especially without him taking care of his health like he usually would. as his anger and lashing out at atreus is understandable. he's grieving and angry, as anyone would be. as Atreus used Sindri a lot thoughout this adventure, who just kept putting sindri in more and more danger and now brok got killed because of Atreus. but at the same time, deep down I believe he's angry at himself more than Atreus, because he choose to follow him and is the reason his brother can't even die in peace. worst part: Atreus didn't attend broks funeral due to trying to find the other giants. Sindri is very much in the right to be angry at him, only truly wish someday they can patch up their friendship.
Grief really can blind you to everything around you, everything and everyone turns into an enemy and you're in a wrathful path to find something or someone to blame, i hope they bring Sindri back around and lead him to some peace
Well this is basically what happens when the guy who's always positive, optimistic and funny gets pushed over the edge and finally snaps. Justified or not, it is a rather realistic depiction of how such person would act.
As angry as Sindri is at Atreus, I think he still cares for him, deep down. When Thrud threatened Atreus, Sindri immediately tried to attack her to protect him. And, if you listen close enough, you can even hear Sindri laugh when Atreus turns into a bear during Ragnorak. I think he cares, but he is too hurt right now to deal with Atreus.
And to be fair, as harsh as Sindri may sound here, Atreus deserved it a little bit. Everone tried to warn him at every single opportunity to think about consequences before he acts. And he always just ran blindly into his decisions. Yes, no one could have forseen what odin did. But at the very least Atreus could have looked further into what was going on around him.
Every single time I see ANYONE reacting when sindri explains everything he's lost, and everything he's given, and all that we've taken, they ALL have the same look; guilt.
It's interesting as hell too. We, the player, also took and took and took from a beloved character, because it's a game, and we're the main character. The camera positioning and everything, making it feel like Sindri is talking to us, is what breaks me up every time I see this. I feel, briefly, like I've personally attacked him. It's SO very close to feeling like breaking the fourth wall and being a warning to all players not to do this to people in their real lives. I can't explain it better, but it's so much of that and more.
Everyone in this cast deserves their flowers and praise. The voice acting in this game was PHENOMENAL. It felt less like a game and more like an epic interactive film.
Kratos lost his first wife, his daughter, his brother, his mom, his second wife, and he killed his father and I guess he also killed his grand father and his great grandmother and a lot of his uncles and aunt.
Yea but for sindri its worse brok was resurrected by sindri when he first died which explains why he is purple and since he resurrected him when brok dies he will never find peace after he dies he will roam the earth forever in torment which is the thing that broke sindri and thats why brok said before he died "i know what you did...and i forgive ya" which indicates he knew sindri resurrected him and that he will never find peace in the after life
If you compare how different he sounds from the first time they met him and now it's literally insane, he was so cheerful, joking, and non-angry all the time and in this scene he really changed.
On another note I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the fact that sindri is so hurt because he essentially condemn his brothers soul to never be able to go to an afterlife. He’s projecting of course but deep down his own guilt is what’s causing him the absolute most pain.
“Not even my family” just hurts so much even thinking about it, just remember how much you are blessed if you still have yours and im sorry if you lost yours ❤❤
The thing that caught my attention in this scene was when he said: "This is what sorry looks like." As if gesturing to himself, I saw his hands. I realized he removed his gloves, and the torn fabric on the sleeves made me think he had stitched his gloves to his sleeves. His phobia from the lake of souls didn't matter anymore. His brother was gone.
I think another thing that adds to his grief is that because of how he resurrected his brother the first time, his soul lost it's "direction", meaning that Brok is denied an afterlife. Perhaps this is why he was so adamant about protecting Brok, not just because they were brothers, but because he also knew the consequences of Brok dying again.
Brok being blue was explained in an optional chat with Sindri in the previous game. Basically it was a result of handling a raw metal with his bare hands.
that's actually a lie that Sindri made up the real reason is that he's dead when the spider bit him while they are making the Axe. Sindri managed to bring him back to life by collected his soul from The Lake of Soul in Alfheim
@@balbarith45 in the first Atreus section Sindri talked about how he brings Brok back to life by collecting his soul from the lake but missing a part of his soul
@@kratosgow342 that doesn't confirm the blue skin. Sindri never said that was the reason for it. He said in the previous game that it was caused by him handling raw metals because it helps him feel it's form.
Sindri stole his brother back from death itself, unfortunately he didn't get all of his soul. Sindri then lies to Brok about having died. Sindri had literally caused Brok upon his next death to die a permanent death, he denied him an afterlife. Broks soul would not be able to pass on because he wasn't whole. Sindri can't deal with what hes done and he is lashing out at everyone around him. He is punishing himself by not wearing glaves, by remaining dirty and using his germiphobia to creat a hell for himself. Brok was killed by Odin because he started questioning Tyr and what he was saying and doing. Sindri blames himself for not noticing it himself. The fact it was so well portrayed by the voice actors and artists for the character manifested in his bodily reaction and visuals is a testiment to them as developers and storytelling.
"And now what have I got" those words are layered with so much pain, suffering and amazing acting. Hard to hold it in after you hear him say that :( also, he's blue for the reason they say not because he died. There's a real blue person irl because of constant exposure to minerals, it's a real thing.
I'll forever appreciate how those games made the Shop keepers/merchants into actual, lovable characters that I enjoyed and FELT for at some points. Not just a random guy behind his counter that you only ever see when you want to buy stuff and empty your inventory but integral parts of the story with their own struggles and emotions. This "You want sorry, this is what sorry looks like" line really hit me like a mf freight train...
The voice acting is mind breaking, The slow and also sudden shift between "My Treasures, and you just kept taking" to "And now what have I got, Not even my Family" really just breaks anyone's heart by just hearing it. Truly divine voice acting, you can experience the Sadness in his voice. Phenomenal!
There is even more to Sindri's reaction: every time he and his brother helped a god, it bit him and Brok in the ass. Make mjolnir only to have Odin thanks them by screwing them up. Help make the leviathan axe, brok dies for the first time. Help kratos and his friends? he loses Brok again, this time for good. At this point, its really understandable that he'd rather cut all ties than to see what disaster him helping others or being "helped" by them will bring him next, nevermind the fact that everyone who eevr called him a friend just took from him over and over instead of giving. And this time there is no brok to try and reason him either.
Can I just say, literally everything about this scene is fantastic, but, the mocap is something special Bro, when Sindri throws his arms back to emphasize, oh my God
4:07 *spoiler for if you haven’t played 2018 GOW* Brok is blue, is because he used certain metals barehanded that can cause the skin to turn blue, much to Sindri’s dismay. But Brok didn’t care lmao
Seeing sindri so broken made my heart drop and I feel bad for him because he has nothing he gave up his ring that makes a infinity copies he let everyone stay at his home he made kratos and Atreus all that gear and broken was killed by Odin so he truly lost everything
I think atreus falling for odin trick isn't what made sindri mad. It's the fact he trusted odin, went to asgard, built the mask and then this happened. Its like when you have a friend whos choices constantly upset you then something bad like this happens and its like a "would you stop being you" moment.
Part of me does wonder the state of Sindri will be if we were to see another God of War in the future. While everything was wrapped up nicely (right down to Kratos having an emotional breakdown between saying bye to his son and him seeing a vision of people worshipping him as a peaceful god than one of war), the only lingering mystery left is Sindri himself. And really... Can't blame the guy for his mindset. There's the part where his brother is basically lost in the void since he brought him back once already (and only got a few parts rather than the whole thing). We also have the part where Sindri wasn't really wrong about his speech here to Atreus since he doesn't really have much left in this world now. The seemingly endless supply of golden rings is gone, so finances are going to be an issue, and Atreus did such a great job in communicating with Sindri earlier for "not listening to reason" and getting bear slapped for it. Really, the only way Sindri could have been more screwed out would have been if his home burnt to the ground or the squirrel decided to evict him out of the world tree for all the chaos that was brought (which he probably could have done too between Kratos and Freya killing off a certain someone while Arteus unleashed the horrors of Helheim onto the tree and the world by freeing a giant soulless dog). Of course, the question here would be what state Sindri will be in since he technically got his revenge by killing Odin and at least giving his brother a send off in their home realm. But his hands and armor are still red in his brother's blood and a man who usually would be trying to keep things as clean as possible looks like a mess. Who knows if he will recover or if he will decide to become the "Freya to Kratos" and seek revenge on Atreus because of how everything that happened was his fault. Personally, I don't think that would be the case (in spite of how so many other people apparently think the next God of War would apparently have this subplot... for some reason...). Much like how we got a comic that helped to explain how Kratos got to the world of the Norse, part of me wonders if they will have a comic of "Sindri's Post-Ragnarok" and if we see him get better or if he will actually see "Loki" as unresolved. Best case scenario would be like Freya and Kratos where it isn't a "I forgive you," as much as it would be a "I've moved past hating you." Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if Sindri may stumble upon Tyr and actually try to murder him because he has PTSD about seeing Tyr kill his brother. He knows it was the guy he would later kill by smashing his stone, but I'm sure the image of Tyr would be enough to set him off. Kind of a shame that there's probably going to be no way of knowing (let alone if there will ever be an answer).
Can't really blame Sindri for reacting like he did. Kratos even tells Atreus to let sindri grieve in his own way. He's choosing to blame Atreus even though he knows it's not fully his fault. He has to come to terms with it himself. Also has to come to terms that since he brought Brok back the way he did that his soul can never rest. That's a decision he has to face
I know that Atreus wanted to find out who Loki was but I do feel like Sindri was right, in Atreus quest to find out who Loki was, he caused a lot of pain and suffering to almost every single person around him from Thor, they’d, sindri, his father. Loki is chaos and I think they show that perfectly in GOW5.
The insane change in Sindri's character here just hurts man. Hearing him so serious and stern is even kinda scary. Bro even cussed. So heartbreaking.
Especially how he no longer cares about germs!
He took off his gloves and he is covered in blood
@@TheBearWithOrangeFur man, when it brushed Kratos’ hand off at Brok’s funeral that hurt. For real though bro is literally fearless now. He didn’t even care during Ragnarok - he was running in head first and completely non chalant
@@Remarkdotzip2427 and he has no intention of removing Brok’s blood either it seems
@@Remarkdotzip2427 And he doesn't care about his grooming either. Look at his beard. His hair. It's unkempt.
"And now what have I got? Not even my family" that part breaks my heart😰😰, the way that the voice actor says that line truly perfect, you can feel what the pain in Sindri's Voice
The voice actor did a great job on this
Felt like the voice actor genuinely started tearing up.
@@gibleyman same
Everybody VA in this game was just outstanding!
I’m just a tad upset he didn’t extend each clip to include “I thought we are is family” to Kratos’s response of “we were”
Sindri was literally the nicest guy ever. This could not have happened to a less deserving character.
This is why he potentially has the greatest character development in gaming history as you can relate to him from a human perspective
Well that's God of War series for you.
he did this to his brother first, hes the one that couldn't let go of his brother. he deserves all of this.
On a serious note the voice performance for Sindri is phenomenal.
Also love the theme at the funeral how almost everyone at Broks funeral lost a brother
The emotions sound so real. He's honestly one of the best actors I've heard in gaming.
It’s sad how the Norse era started AND ended with a funeral pyre
Sindri at the funeral broke me. That "I love you Brok" is honestly one of the most heartbreaking performances ive ever heard.
You're not wrong. They lost a family member.
@@comicalcosmonaut959
You mean the *end of the Norse Era started* and ending.
If l recall, every time in God of War 2018 and Ragnarok, when someone is forging a sword, they hammer the heated part of the sword (because the sword needs to be incredibly hot in order for it to be formed into shape). But here, the sword isn’t heated. So Sindri is just angrily beating the sword until it will eventually break
Never noticed that.
just like he did
Pretty sure he is using Broks hammer as well, trying to achieve the level of work his brother could make, but of course Broks work will never be created again.
Add the fact that he is not wearing gloves anymore. He is extremely broken.
@@slipstream5762 it is broks hammer
When someone is hurting this bad, the worst thing you can do is talk to them. No amount of apologies can undo their suffering. You'll only upset them more.
Yeah, as much as you want to check on them and make sure they're ok, that just will make things worse, and space and time is all you can really do. Sometimes things heal by themselves, other times, it's beyond repair, you just gotta move forward and hope that they'll come around and be back to their old self
As long as you make sure they are alright. Give them space to grieve, but also make sure they don't do nothing stupid in that time
Agreed
I know this is an old comment but spot on.
You see it at the funeral, Sindri keeps it together, seems to be mourning the right way until Kratos talks to him, if Kratos hadn't spoken, he wouldn't have left as he did and might have spent more time with his friends.
@lunar-1340 thats just a big maybe tho. Its also possible that he leaves sooner than he did had kratos not touch him
Shoutout to the amazing VA for Sindri, absolutely killed this scene
you really did a shoutout without naming the poor guy
Adam J Harrington he played Roy Earle in LA noire
@James Phelps kratos's actor was absolutely amazing, I don't understand what's wrong with it.
@@brandan5708 I mean they both should’ve won but Sindri has more emotion in his voice kratos has more physical emotion
@@Dylbz-ne8st that's not a fair comparison, because literally part of kratos's character is that after everything, he tries to show little emotion. You are using a actual canon trait of a character as a way to say another voice actor was better.
Sindri is grieving and will of course react this way and I think it's only fair. But I hate watching those reactors who just put the sole blame on Atreus as if the rest of the group weren't fooled by Odin too. Furthermore, Atreus never asked Sindri for anything; helping him with the shrines, helping him with realm travel, letting the group stay in his home, going to Jorgunmandr and Freya's ... all of those were Sindri's own choice. I think a lot of his anger (esp towards Atreus) is a manifestation of his own self-hatred and guilt for now condemning his brother to an eternity of unrest since his soul is not whole and cannot rest in the light .....
I thank you for explaining it. You really dig deep into and this is why I love the game
My guy, none of this would have happened if Atreus just gave up his search for Tyr
@@jadenwilliams615 when a mob boss gives you a choice, both options will be to your detriment, no matter how good they make it sound
Plus, Odin saying he won't do anything to them doesn't mean shit, that's like, I won't kill you, but my enforcer will
It was in their best interests to seek out Tyr anyways, as atreus made clear once kratos got home from fighting Thor
Yeah but atreus ask too much of sindir took way too much of advantage of his kindness hell he forced him into it even attacked him without so much and I'm sorry please or thank you until it was too late
@@adamtheriault6743 He didn’t ask him yeah but he did it because he was his friend. Sindri cared deeply for Atreus and was only looking out for his safety. Of course he’s gonna keep an eye on him, cause god forbid something happens to him, it’d literally be a repeat of the first 3 games with Kratos slaughtering all of Asgard.
Man... Adam J. Harrington portrayal of a broken Sindri is just absolutely astonishing. His voice when he says "Not even my family" just melted my heart and the pain he transmits is so palpable you can't help but feel it all over your being. Masterful acting!
It is even sadder that when you are on the way to tyr temple to find sindri, atreus ask mimir if there are any ways to revive brok. He sadly said: there is no answer for that because he already lost a part of his soul. So when he died, he cannot enter the lake of soul in alfheim (which is the afterlife).
Omg of course sindri is that mad at him thanks for the info it's just much sadder now😞
I have a weird theory about that. People talk like Brok's direction piece is gone. It's not gone. It's in the lake. Brok didn't really, really lose his direction, we know where it is, it's just not in him.
When we see a part of Fenrir's soul ender the knife, the other bits scattered in all directions. IU think that the piece that entered the knife was Fenrir's Direction. And that over time, it called the other pieces back to itself. That's why Angrboda doesn't say "there's part of a soul in your knife," she says "who's the soul in your knife?"
In other words, the Direction may be able to call other soulbits to itself even when they're scattered, like Brok's soul is.
Meaning that, even without the Direction being in Brok, because that direction is still in the Lake of Souls, it may still function as a homing beacon and pull the rest of Brok to itself. And thus Brok gets an afterlife after all.
I'm so glad to see someone actually remembered that part about one of broks soul parts still being in the lake and that maybe he's not completely gone just incomplete. I also like your idea about the souls direction possibly calling back the rest of the soul. Brok is too great to not get an afterlife
How the fuck did not a single person in this video not even shed a single tear?! The way the voice actor delivered the line "And now what have I got? Not even my family...." was the absolute breaking point for me...i cried so much...
Dont forget that the person voicing Sindri is also acting as him. So much emotion not only in his voice but every single movement too
It's just video game, man up
@@jackraptor695 Video Games have stories, and stories are meant to bring out emotions.
Cause not everyone cry’s over a character that’s not even real 😂😂
Bro I was tearing up
I think people miss the part where he says but some of us were bigger fools then others, then proceeds to say what he did for atreus, I think what he's trying to say is HE was the biggest fool for doing all those things for Atreus, while Atreus is the second most to blame because in the end all of this was mainly because of Atreus' quest for war on asgard he spent the entire first half of the game attempting to convince Kratos that war needed to happen and it was also his fault they tried looking for Tyr to begin with because of the prophecy he read after asking sindri for help
This exactly
He's still a kid, and growing up to seeing how his actions have consequences is part of growth. Kratos had to deal with it, and he has to as well. It really shows by the end of the game how much it payed off
@@toosmoofoyou that doesn't excuse the consequences though especially the one that effect the one closest to us
@@pricefieldx never, ofc it doesn't, it consequences has to happen for someone to learn
@@pricefieldx
The point isn't that he is excused of them because of good deeds afterwards. The point is that the consequences have actually hit him where he wasn't expecting it and he has to carry that with him for the rest of his life.
He's not going to forgets those events happened. That's not the kind of god he is. He's caring, righteous, and stubborn. He's too much of kind soul that wanted the best for everyone around him, but didn't realize the choices he's made were affecting his loved ones. Now that it has, he has to experience the pain of it going forward into the future. This will undoubtedly haunt him for a very long while, but no use stopping the tracks when there's still things he need to do.
He made the biggest mistakes of his life. And the consequences will continue (cuz God of War can't give anyone a break). But at least he'll have the experience to try and not make the same mistakes twice. Emphasis on " *try* ".
This is the most emotion I've ever seen MoistCritikal show. Was nearly convinced he had none
I on the other hand am still not convinced. 😄
Lol stretching, burping, picking his nose in the most emotional scene in the game. I guess you could call that emotion.
@@lockekappa500 it is for him. He usually has less emotion than a plank of wood.
@@StarChaserHooT I like his dead pan delivery but he's not a fun person to watch live streams or reactions with. He always reacts to everything like he's unimpressed.
The fact that he quiet the entire time is rare though, normally he just kept talking or roasting the things he see.
The way he delivered that “Not even my Family.” Line made me bawl my eyes out.
Hits even harder when you realize Sindri is using Broks hammer to strike the sword. The fact that no matter if he uses Broks hammer, he won't ever achieve Broks work because he is not his brother. It will always feel incomplete without both brands. That's a very good story telling detail for me.
I didnt know
It's not Atreus' fault, he was manipulated by Odin like everyone else.
Brok would want for Sindri to forgive them. Sindri will realize that, but he'll need time.
And Brok was on top of suspecting tyr/Odin prolly from day 1 but didn’t wanna risk sindri so he never told him
Actually it is his fault, he thought the only way to stop oblin is war…
Or the worst case. Their blood.
@@aaronjohnson1286 yeah bro fuck oblin or whoever is oblin is
@@aaronjohnson1286 it was the only way. The game expressly tells us Kratos trying to be uninvolved would never work. Odin was going to hurt people no matter what and ignoring him was not the answer.
I may get put infront of a firing squad if I say this but I am…
*Sindri has every right to be mad at Atreus and Atreus needed someone to show actions have consequences*
Let me explain, Atreus was becoming a miniature Odin with his actions, telling half truths, being incredibly rude when faced with criticism and trying to find answer to a question no one asked. Atreus needed a slice of humble pie.
Yep!
You make a really good point
nobody is going to put you infront of a firing squad for saying the truth.
You actually have a point there…while everyone else got fooled by Odin…that doesn’t excuse his actions
A mini Odin. Couldn't have said it better myself
An amazing commentator said it perfectly
By Splunkmastah
Throughout the game we see that Sindri has been tagging along with Atreus on his search for Tyr out of a sense of duty to protect him. However, it's clear that even though Atreus calls him his partner, it's a one-way partnership.
Even when We play as Atreus with Sindri accompanying us, Atreus constantly tells him to stop worrying and to just help him fight the bandits and draugr they come across, despite Sindri being correct.
Going to Freya is a horrible idea, waking up the World Serpent is also pretty dicey, but it's clear that Atreus has never once listened to Sindri.
So why is Sindri still hanging around Atreus? Because he doesn't want anything to happen to him, And because if the worst happens, and HE has to be the one to tell Kratos that "Oh yeah we've been sneaking out behind your back and I've known the whole time and didn't tell you" it wouldn't exactly go well.
Then you have Atreus and Sindri's argument before Atreus's arrival at Asguard, followed by an enraged Atreus swiping Sindri to the side like he meant nothing.
Because that's how Sindri's starting to see it. The little shit won't listen to him, he keeps putting himself and Sindri in danger and then strings him along by saying
"Ayy Sin, we're partners!" Sindri thought he could calm Atreus, get him to revert back into his human form based on their 'partnership' and its a literal slap in the face to Sindri that he apparently doesn't have enough rapport to calm Atreus down. (Of course we know that it takes all of Kratos's strength to hold Atreus down until he regains control, but Sindri doesn't know that. All he knows is that Kratos can calm him down while he, the alleged partner, can't)
After this point in the game, Sindri begins holding a grudge against Atreus, ostensibly for the wound on his head, but possibly because he's also beginning to see the extent of Atreus's manipulation, intentional or otherwise.
Then you have Brok's death at the hand of Odin disguised as Tyr. The same Tyr that Atreus had spent so long trying to find, the same one that Sindri had helped him find.
Sindri was right. He gave everything, and now all he has is nothing because they just kept taking.
He's right when he says "There is no we, it's always just been you. No matter the cost"
Kratos redeemed himself a bit in Sindri's eyes when he shows up at Brok's funeral, but guess who didn't show up?
The same little shit that got him killed, because "Ayy Time To Go On Another Adventure!"
1 know Atreus loved Brok. And I know Atreus wasn't trying to manipulate Sindri. But that's how Sindri sees it, and now he sees that this kid who fucked up in every possible way can't even bother to show up and face the dwarf he so wronged, can't bother to see the consequences of what he's done; a ruined friendship, a destroyed sense of trust, and the horribly bleak death of a close friend.
Atreus really lived up the moniker of Loki in his treatment of Sindri. It's not our intentions, but the consequences of those intentions, that shape the world's view of us.
And Atreus is looking like quite the Trickster right about now.
If I were Sindri, I'd hate the little shit too.
Looks to me like u already hate him...
Absolutely right
I'm pretty sure waking the World Serpent was Sindri's idea, but I agree with everything else
Sindri tagged along because he loved him. Going to Freya wasn’t a terrible idea, she let him go just like Atreus said she would. Waking up Jormungandr did nothing bad? Idk what you meant there. Atreus didn’t go to the funeral because Sindri told him (not Kratos, him) to stay away and continued to be hostile during the battle despite Atreus trying to protect him. He was respecting Sindri’s wishes. (He even said “I thought we were his family” showing he sees how much Sindri has rejected him.)
Atreus had just learned his father was going to die and had adults ganging up on him and he lost control of new powers in a high stress situation, he had also attacked Kratos earlier.
Atreus is a child in a really bad situation and the only one at fault is Odin. Atreus was right that Odin needed to be stopped, he was terrorizing multiple realms and killed his own son in cold blood.
@@JDTB90 people are very eager to hate kids
I’ll miss the old Sindri. His germaphobic and timid ways define what he is forever lost…
We will never see that again… 😞
Sindri genuinely care for atreus and kratos, just like they say hate is born from love, the more you love them the bigger the hatred will be when you feel betrayed by them
So atreus betrayed sindri for his desperate desire to search for the God of war.
Every time Sindri's voice broke emotionally when he said "And now what have I got?" made me cry deeply and feel sorry for him since he and Brok were the best characters since God of War 2018. I'm a little worried he'll end up a villain like Freya.
I just notice that when Sindri said "there is no We. There is only You" Atreus shakes his head, saying that this is not true.
a small but cool detail to point out.
Exactly atreus never felt modesty on Sindri, he always acted with anger everytime none of his friends agreed with him and through his selfishness a "loss" was assumed.
I remember seeing someone else point out that when Atreus says "I thought we were his family-" you could hear Sindri make a subtle noise/sob that kind of implies that he still cares about them
The break in his voices at, "now what have i got, not even my family," thats shit made me ugly cry.
This genuinely hurts, man. The Hulda brothers were great video game friends and companions.
This is one of the many effects suffering from a loss can do to someone.
Somewhere Roger Ebert is up in heaven watchin this scene on a large majestic projection screen in the sky, saying to himself, "Damn I guess I was wrong. Videogames ARE art."
I literally was playing this game thinking man I wish he could see video games now because he would have to eat his words
Broke my fucking heart to see my boy this broken by grief 😔 he didn't deserve all this for all his hard work
You know what gets me... How DIRTY he is. Sindri would never have allowed himself to get that way, he's been broken to his very core, to the point where it's overpowered his neuroses.
I just realized he’s forging the blade he uses during the war with Asgard
Not Atreus' fault but he was the one who kept asking everybody to trust him, and the one who trusted him the most paid for it. Somebody had to stop sugar coating and spoiling him
I would put Odin above Atreus in the line of fault, but Atreus was a close second imo
Well ya, for awhile Atreus was doing the same thing Odin did, he was determined to find the awnsers he was looking for no matter what he had to do, but becuase he knows the lengths Odin DID go for all those hundreds of years thanks to history and having people to teach him what’s right he caught himself and corrected his path, sadly it was to late to fix everything that was a result of that over ambition to truth seeking and fate changing
Atreus: "I thought we were also his family"
Kratos: "We were."
I myself have two brothers, one older and one younger. I couldn’t imagine losing either of them, I can only imagine how Sindri feels. The pain in his voice as he says “Not even my family.” absolutely devastated me.
I saw an analogy given by one of the minds behind GOWR talking about Sindri's character change in the game, and he mentioned that Sindri reminded him of the story of The Giving Tree. A story about giving, and giving, and giving to others until all that's left of you is a stump. Sindri is that stump after Brok's death. He always did everything for others, and in the end, everything was taken from him. I can't blame him for being as bitter and broken as he is by the end. I was really hoping he would turn it around before the credits, but you don't just get over that type of trauma. He needs time, and there's no guarantee he'll ever forgive Kratos and Atreus.
That acting from Sindri tho! Goddamn, I choke whenever he says "And now what have I got?"
Sindri is a perfect example of the giving tree he gives and gives and gives till he has nothing left. So i really dont blame him telling atreus and kratos to f off.
Not only has he lost brok again he's lost him forever. The soul piece he was missing was direction making him incapable of getting to the lake of souls, denying him an afterlife. He knows that and it's weighing very heavily on him.
Odin took away his everything,
Sindri is willing to give you anything, and the one thing he have , has been taken away from him
I felt the same way when my own mother passed away due to chest infection pneumonia in April this year, for when I was grieving and I know exactly how Sindri feels after Brok was killed by Odin, it's by far the most painful experience when losing a loved one.
it breaks my heart seeing sindri like this, especially without him taking care of his health like he usually would. as his anger and lashing out at atreus is understandable. he's grieving and angry, as anyone would be. as Atreus used Sindri a lot thoughout this adventure, who just kept putting sindri in more and more danger and now brok got killed because of Atreus. but at the same time, deep down I believe he's angry at himself more than Atreus, because he choose to follow him and is the reason his brother can't even die in peace. worst part: Atreus didn't attend broks funeral due to trying to find the other giants. Sindri is very much in the right to be angry at him, only truly wish someday they can patch up their friendship.
Grief really can blind you to everything around you, everything and everyone turns into an enemy and you're in a wrathful path to find something or someone to blame, i hope they bring Sindri back around and lead him to some peace
I hate how angry sindri is but I understand why, been awhile since I teared up as much as I did from this scene, poor sindri...
Same.
Well this is basically what happens when the guy who's always positive, optimistic and funny gets pushed over the edge and finally snaps.
Justified or not, it is a rather realistic depiction of how such person would act.
@@gibleyman That's the point, this game chose to have characters that speak for our selves,characters making relate to.......
In the RIGHT way finally.
Hearing the Crack in Sindri's voice when he says "not even my family." send me into tears everytime.
I am crying right now 😔
the voice tone on "and now what have I got?" is so on point and powerful. that line alone deserve some kind of awards
and people think this media can't be considered 'high art'. This has more emotion then 99% of hollywoods 'blockbusters'.
true, it's more a movie than a lot of "movies".
As angry as Sindri is at Atreus, I think he still cares for him, deep down. When Thrud threatened Atreus, Sindri immediately tried to attack her to protect him. And, if you listen close enough, you can even hear Sindri laugh when Atreus turns into a bear during Ragnorak. I think he cares, but he is too hurt right now to deal with Atreus.
After seeing this, I finally know why don't be sorry, be better
Because this is what sorry looks like
And to be fair, as harsh as Sindri may sound here, Atreus deserved it a little bit. Everone tried to warn him at every single opportunity to think about consequences before he acts. And he always just ran blindly into his decisions.
Yes, no one could have forseen what odin did. But at the very least Atreus could have looked further into what was going on around him.
"And now what do I got? Not even my family..." Is the most emotion I heard in a character since 9S in nier automata at the end of the game
Every single time I see ANYONE reacting when sindri explains everything he's lost, and everything he's given, and all that we've taken, they ALL have the same look; guilt.
It's interesting as hell too. We, the player, also took and took and took from a beloved character, because it's a game, and we're the main character. The camera positioning and everything, making it feel like Sindri is talking to us, is what breaks me up every time I see this. I feel, briefly, like I've personally attacked him. It's SO very close to feeling like breaking the fourth wall and being a warning to all players not to do this to people in their real lives. I can't explain it better, but it's so much of that and more.
Everyone in this cast deserves their flowers and praise. The voice acting in this game was PHENOMENAL. It felt less like a game and more like an epic interactive film.
A small detail in this scene is that Sindri is not wearing his gloves anymore to forge items, broks death made him not care about his cleanliness.
Can't blame Sindri that his brother Brokk died, he lost his only family he had
Kratos lost his first wife, his daughter, his brother, his mom, his second wife, and he killed his father and I guess he also killed his grand father and his great grandmother and a lot of his uncles and aunt.
Yea but for sindri its worse brok was resurrected by sindri when he first died which explains why he is purple and since he resurrected him when brok dies he will never find peace after he dies he will roam the earth forever in torment which is the thing that broke sindri and thats why brok said before he died "i know what you did...and i forgive ya" which indicates he knew sindri resurrected him and that he will never find peace in the after life
@@Algous1 If Brok looks purple to you, there's something wrong with your TV (or monitor). He's blue!
@@destroyerblackdragon We already know that.
If you compare how different he sounds from the first time they met him and now it's literally insane, he was so cheerful, joking, and non-angry all the time and in this scene he really changed.
On another note I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the fact that sindri is so hurt because he essentially condemn his brothers soul to never be able to go to an afterlife. He’s projecting of course but deep down his own guilt is what’s causing him the absolute most pain.
Whenever CoryxKenshin gets up to date with all the god of war stuff you should make a video with all his reactions to stuff
Not to mention, because sindri didn’t get all the soul bits back, Brok is denied an afterlife , he’s just gone
“Not even my family” just hurts so much even thinking about it, just remember how much you are blessed if you still have yours and im sorry if you lost yours ❤❤
this is what happens when you push the kindest man to his limits albeit they did not do it on purpose 😢
Sindri's voice actor knocks it out of the park.
It really makes the player also feel guilty since we essentially guided Kratos and Atreus to "Tyr." Top notch acting.
"And then something just snapped, something inside of me, I didn't care anymore.." - Sindri
god ..that is so painfull to watch..what a great actor whom ever play sindri.. you can feel his pain and anger
The thing that caught my attention in this scene was when he said: "This is what sorry looks like." As if gesturing to himself, I saw his hands.
I realized he removed his gloves, and the torn fabric on the sleeves made me think he had stitched his gloves to his sleeves.
His phobia from the lake of souls didn't matter anymore. His brother was gone.
One more thing if you look closely Sindri is using Brok's hammer. Even when he smashes Odin's soul from the stone.
I think another thing that adds to his grief is that because of how he resurrected his brother the first time, his soul lost it's "direction", meaning that Brok is denied an afterlife. Perhaps this is why he was so adamant about protecting Brok, not just because they were brothers, but because he also knew the consequences of Brok dying again.
Once was enough to just break me watching it another 6-7 times...nah man 💔
Brok being blue was explained in an optional chat with Sindri in the previous game. Basically it was a result of handling a raw metal with his bare hands.
that's actually a lie that Sindri made up the real reason is that he's dead when the spider bit him while they are making the Axe. Sindri managed to bring him back to life by collected his soul from The Lake of Soul in Alfheim
Was that confirmed? If so, where? Because that condition can really happen if exposed to metals long enough.
@@balbarith45 in the first Atreus section Sindri talked about how he brings Brok back to life by collecting his soul from the lake but missing a part of his soul
@@kratosgow342 that doesn't confirm the blue skin. Sindri never said that was the reason for it. He said in the previous game that it was caused by him handling raw metals because it helps him feel it's form.
@@balbarith45 it's on The Lost Page podcast that associate with 2018 game have episodes about Huldra's Brother that take place before the game
This is the only time Sindri EVER curses.
Well that, and the other time you first played as atreus. Pretty sure he said "don't tell brok I cursed, he's UNBEARABLE when he's smug."
Sindri stole his brother back from death itself, unfortunately he didn't get all of his soul. Sindri then lies to Brok about having died. Sindri had literally caused Brok upon his next death to die a permanent death, he denied him an afterlife. Broks soul would not be able to pass on because he wasn't whole. Sindri can't deal with what hes done and he is lashing out at everyone around him. He is punishing himself by not wearing glaves, by remaining dirty and using his germiphobia to creat a hell for himself. Brok was killed by Odin because he started questioning Tyr and what he was saying and doing. Sindri blames himself for not noticing it himself. The fact it was so well portrayed by the voice actors and artists for the character manifested in his bodily reaction and visuals is a testiment to them as developers and storytelling.
I damn near call this a monologue and one of my favorite ones from all of media and acting now, VA and writers struck gold with this one.
Best emotional scene since aunt mays death at the end of spiderman ps4
"And now what have I got" those words are layered with so much pain, suffering and amazing acting. Hard to hold it in after you hear him say that :( also, he's blue for the reason they say not because he died. There's a real blue person irl because of constant exposure to minerals, it's a real thing.
I'll forever appreciate how those games made the Shop keepers/merchants into actual, lovable characters that I enjoyed and FELT for at some points. Not just a random guy behind his counter that you only ever see when you want to buy stuff and empty your inventory but integral parts of the story with their own struggles and emotions. This "You want sorry, this is what sorry looks like" line really hit me like a mf freight train...
The voice acting is mind breaking, The slow and also sudden shift between "My Treasures, and you just kept taking" to "And now what have I got, Not even my Family" really just breaks anyone's heart by just hearing it. Truly divine voice acting, you can experience the Sadness in his voice. Phenomenal!
There is even more to Sindri's reaction: every time he and his brother helped a god, it bit him and Brok in the ass. Make mjolnir only to have Odin thanks them by screwing them up. Help make the leviathan axe, brok dies for the first time. Help kratos and his friends? he loses Brok again, this time for good.
At this point, its really understandable that he'd rather cut all ties than to see what disaster him helping others or being "helped" by them will bring him next, nevermind the fact that everyone who eevr called him a friend just took from him over and over instead of giving. And this time there is no brok to try and reason him either.
Well you can't blame him
Can I just say, literally everything about this scene is fantastic, but, the mocap is something special
Bro, when Sindri throws his arms back to emphasize, oh my God
My gaming moment of the year. Think the voice actor deserves an award
Idk what hurts more those who cried because it was sad and we felt bad or we were crying because we saw us in Sindri
Atreus knew Sindri was gonna be there
The place he and Brok reunited,
Reforging something what broke
"Not even my family" Made me cry bro
GOW really made me cry in that part
I didnt want that to happen bro
the way he says “my treasures” like a sad child, truly heartbreaking
I like how "gameplay" ties in to this story. He really always gives, we always take.
4:07 *spoiler for if you haven’t played 2018 GOW*
Brok is blue, is because he used certain metals barehanded that can cause the skin to turn blue, much to Sindri’s dismay. But Brok didn’t care lmao
That might be a lie that Sindri told Atreus and Kratos on why Brok's skin is blue, but it is also another reason
Everyone's reactions: 🥺😢😭
Charlie: 😐
Game: is having an emotional moment
Moistcritikal: **buuuuurrrrrpppp**
never change, Charlie.
Seeing sindri so broken made my heart drop and I feel bad for him because he has nothing he gave up his ring that makes a infinity copies he let everyone stay at his home he made kratos and Atreus all that gear and broken was killed by Odin so he truly lost everything
I think atreus falling for odin trick isn't what made sindri mad. It's the fact he trusted odin, went to asgard, built the mask and then this happened. Its like when you have a friend whos choices constantly upset you then something bad like this happens and its like a "would you stop being you" moment.
The part where Sindri says "Now what do I got?..."
Really broke me, when I hear that sentence
I feel sadness for him
Charlie really knows how to kill a scene
Part of me does wonder the state of Sindri will be if we were to see another God of War in the future. While everything was wrapped up nicely (right down to Kratos having an emotional breakdown between saying bye to his son and him seeing a vision of people worshipping him as a peaceful god than one of war), the only lingering mystery left is Sindri himself.
And really... Can't blame the guy for his mindset. There's the part where his brother is basically lost in the void since he brought him back once already (and only got a few parts rather than the whole thing). We also have the part where Sindri wasn't really wrong about his speech here to Atreus since he doesn't really have much left in this world now. The seemingly endless supply of golden rings is gone, so finances are going to be an issue, and Atreus did such a great job in communicating with Sindri earlier for "not listening to reason" and getting bear slapped for it. Really, the only way Sindri could have been more screwed out would have been if his home burnt to the ground or the squirrel decided to evict him out of the world tree for all the chaos that was brought (which he probably could have done too between Kratos and Freya killing off a certain someone while Arteus unleashed the horrors of Helheim onto the tree and the world by freeing a giant soulless dog).
Of course, the question here would be what state Sindri will be in since he technically got his revenge by killing Odin and at least giving his brother a send off in their home realm. But his hands and armor are still red in his brother's blood and a man who usually would be trying to keep things as clean as possible looks like a mess. Who knows if he will recover or if he will decide to become the "Freya to Kratos" and seek revenge on Atreus because of how everything that happened was his fault. Personally, I don't think that would be the case (in spite of how so many other people apparently think the next God of War would apparently have this subplot... for some reason...).
Much like how we got a comic that helped to explain how Kratos got to the world of the Norse, part of me wonders if they will have a comic of "Sindri's Post-Ragnarok" and if we see him get better or if he will actually see "Loki" as unresolved. Best case scenario would be like Freya and Kratos where it isn't a "I forgive you," as much as it would be a "I've moved past hating you." Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if Sindri may stumble upon Tyr and actually try to murder him because he has PTSD about seeing Tyr kill his brother. He knows it was the guy he would later kill by smashing his stone, but I'm sure the image of Tyr would be enough to set him off.
Kind of a shame that there's probably going to be no way of knowing (let alone if there will ever be an answer).
Sindri’s voice actor fucking killed this scene
Broks actually blue because of the raw metal he touches without cleaning
There's no We, There's only You
I honestly completely Agree with Sindri
Atreus Wanted answers so much he didn't Care about who he should Trust
Can't really blame Sindri for reacting like he did. Kratos even tells Atreus to let sindri grieve in his own way. He's choosing to blame Atreus even though he knows it's not fully his fault. He has to come to terms with it himself. Also has to come to terms that since he brought Brok back the way he did that his soul can never rest. That's a decision he has to face
I know that Atreus wanted to find out who Loki was but I do feel like Sindri was right, in Atreus quest to find out who Loki was, he caused a lot of pain and suffering to almost every single person around him from Thor, they’d, sindri, his father. Loki is chaos and I think they show that perfectly in GOW5.
I think the very fact that the first thing Kratos and Atreus did was to check on Sindri disproves that there is no "we."
I have played this game many times and this scene still get me so hard..damn it.
Everyone else: “This is so sad :(“
Charlie: “my cat is stuck”