sure its cool but this is the worst update i have seen in a while(they made silentheart bad against mage builds, nerfed voidheart, and made it trash for pve) also they removed it bc it "shut down gameplay" i have 4 words A WORLD WITHOUT SONG
Ok. Im digging this. But small issue. If you die you lose your weapon...... So can they just add like a special slot where you can put your switchable weapons and they cant get lost. And lets just make it kinda costy to remove it so people dont just put legendarys in there to keep forever.
True but if you equip a weapon with enchants it just gets soulbounded, and lets be honest with a pvp oath like this every one of your weapon should be enchanted
@@alepapi9544 Yeah but theres no way im getting the requirements for 3 legendaries id have zero points left for fortitiude or whatever 0 health buuld? Sounds good to you?
Now I want to make a Hallowtide Gladiator sorta thing. Silent heart w/ all three Hallowtide weapons (Drakemaw Gauntlets, Putrid Edentide, and Bloodtide Trident). I think it'd be fun, especially with the new "dagger talent w/ no daggers" talent
visionshaper rework next please? Clones are cool I guess, but with an oath with so many possibilities using the creative liberties you'd get with complete control over illusions, you'd think you'd have more to it than being 90% clone based, with the remaining 10% being a domain expansion.
Yeah I think Visionshaper, aswell as Linkstrider could use some kind of rework. They have cooked with Jetstriker and silentheart so I look forward with what they come up with here.
@@cliyzzeq Their supposed to be Mantra Haters who hates the song, they could've made some of the skill prevent ether charge or extend cooldown of other mantras or something😭😭
also if you have crazy slots and swap weapons with enchants you can have the same cslots weapon with a diff enchant like swapping from chilling divine spear to detonation divine spear
That goes so hard. Silentheard pairs up insanely well with crazy slots now, if not for the weapon variants of the new sh talents, for the extra freedom having the weapon's skill gives you.
Couldn't they just change this up a bit and make it a new oath instead? I kind of liked the old silentheart and it would be nice to have more variety in oaths
The old silentheart was an example of terrible game design, and it was not meant to be ingame. It contradicted Deepwoken’s entire “unique builds” system.
Sh is even MORE viable than ever. It can literally mixup thru new item talent and has several weapons to use. Mani katti was only ever useful when it block breaks
I only kinda disliked the fact we lost mani katti to a slightly improved uppercut. It was like unique as hell, although it was pretty useless since you could just predict it so easily. But fr though, this rework was insanely good. I just think we should get the mantra resistance or damage buff back, if it's so bad maybe make it proc when you switch weapons.
removing mani kati which was lets be honest some cool ass move thats very easy to parry is the same way as minecraft removing creepers from the game mani kati was the face of silent heart
They should make it so you gain a talent that allows you to put 2 or 3 weapons into a slot in which you can bring weapons in and out of without being able to be stolen. This could help with the swapping between weapons, making it easier for people to use this oath without the worry of losing strong weapons.
Punchee I use silent heart because I play on console I can't hot swap or use mantra in combat because I need to get the cursor out and click on the thing rather than just press a button how do I plug in a keyboard and mouse this game is all I play and they seem to want console players extinct
btw, crazy slots has crazy synergy with silenheart as the moves change aswell. Also in pve, it would be cool to change to vampirism divine battle axe or astral whilst ifghint
I haven't run silent heart in a good while but even I have to say this rework is actual dogshit, they removed the ONLY oath that was capable of handling spell and mantra spam and said "now have fun still getting spammed to death by meta mantra builds!" Like seriously, the main reason the oath existed was to DENY mantras so it would force people to actually use their fucking weapons
dude the feature barely mattered it lasted like 3 seconds and if any of the cheese meta builds got hit by it they will just run away and then continue raining down death on you there was no point
How come you didnt mention all the good items getting a new Level Requirement to use for absolutely no reason. That's totally ass. Literally only make the early game slightly harder but much more annoying, since now if you wanted to pass down those items you might just have to bank them until a higher level or risk losing them to a random death. Also dissincentivizes any sort of "roleplay" build where you start with, say, looking like a fighter from a certain faction (eg: Auth helm/plate, Legion plate, Etrean Quirasses, etc.). This really had no reason to be added. The mild Fortitude requirement was enough already on some of the Hats, and the level 10 req already made a bunch of Arms unappealing, on top of them not even being that good in terms of stats.
Why not just make the Diadem like an alloy that works with the Pleeksty's Inferno and not a helmet equipment? No way I'm passing up a 30 hp helmet for my m1s to apply burn. Looks cool on your head though.
Don’t get me wrong, it looks insanely cool, but I’d be nice to have both ;). Why couldn’t they have just made this a new oath? Or even let you choose if you want the post/pre nerf version.
crazy how they gutted the utility use of voidwalker, like bro so now i cant reset to spawn back at the voidheart and sell my stuff at ferryman... This is completely unnecessary. They had the chance to fix voidwalkers and make it more noob friendly but no they instead nerf the pve use of it.
The silent heart rework is definitely interesting. In terms of PvP I see some extreme combat potential with the Weapon switching and Abilitie variants. I’m honestly really happy about this rework. Now it is unfortunate that PvE builds got nerfed and have become damn near unusable, but it is what it is. There are other PvE build alternatives that are still good. Overall I think this rework is really cool, I love the new attacks, weapon switching( the Toji builds are gonna go crazy) and I look forward to seeing what people come up with.
Yo punchee, if you agree, try sharing it with the devs (i dont have suggestion role) Chainwarden should have the silentheart treatment. If you can dye the chains, it should also change the color of the mantras.
I. Think I hate this rework. I get shutting down other people's mantras was unfun. But why shift the oath from ya know. Silencing spellcasters. To just being weapon masters? It's an oath about getting revenge on mantra users and the rework doesn't reflect that anywhere nearly as well. This also seems to be entirely a stat nerf w/no returns on that. Tho that's my opinion I am bias as I have little experience actually using other oaths.
i get what youre saying but it was kinda like, you get a boost of power with the desire of getting revenge on the song, so that's why they kept the dread stacks building up resistance but it should be a weapon master imo because they are supposed to be bounded to not use any mantra's so the only thing they can do is use a weapon and it was already a weapon oath pretty much, so they tied the oath from being a disabler and damage dealer to more of a mantra resistant upgraded weapons master, but people have opinions and i respect it
@@raylight2961 I hate it personally. Doesnt mean I'm right to do so. I'll give it time to try it out given silentheart is my only currently surviving pvp build. Hope my opinion changes but I'm afraid if it doesn't. ... Ig I'll go back to trying to make fists work with bladeharper somehow.
Tho honestly silentheart is better when done as weapon master. After all they have to be good at something other than simply swinging a weapon when not using mantras or any attunement
K1 COOKED
My Discord Server: discord.com/invite/n7552V4
Cooked? No he sold us in chime, we got these move spammers and the Parry timing is so bad for silent heart it shouldn't be a concept
This rework is terrible. Silentheart is a pve oath. The rework doesn’t even seem like it’d be that good in PvP anyway.
sure its cool but this is the worst update i have seen in a while(they made silentheart bad against mage builds, nerfed voidheart, and made it trash for pve) also they removed it bc it "shut down gameplay" i have 4 words A WORLD WITHOUT SONG
He fucked silent heart in the ass #bringbackmanikatti
Warden ceremonial sword + lightning cloak is still in the game so no
punchee please add women to deepwoken, my wife left me and I just want to know what it feels like to have a family again
😭😭😭
why is Vro so real.💔
Don't worry bro, new update, I know two women who are on the deep grind. Three if you count trans.
bro HOW U THIS DOWN BAD ??
@@martyr2941Ain't no way one of em using the irl disguise mantra
PVE SILENTHEART IS COOKEDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭
IM TOJI NOW RAHHHH
@@Decaying_bacontoji build finna go crazyy
honestly glad, opens up the pve meta for more interesting things... hopefully they buff other pve options though.
@@creem864there not everything’s for pve getting nerfed first it was mage builds now it silent heart
someone made a suggestion to readd the damage boost from dread fighter in pve only which is a good idea
"Yuji, they took my fucking cleave Yuji"
broski bladeharper exists
Just use bladeharper
Ok. Im digging this. But small issue. If you die you lose your weapon...... So can they just add like a special slot where you can put your switchable weapons and they cant get lost. And lets just make it kinda costy to remove it so people dont just put legendarys in there to keep forever.
True but if you equip a weapon with enchants it just gets soulbounded, and lets be honest with a pvp oath like this every one of your weapon should be enchanted
Legendaries are soulbound too unless I’m remembering it wrong
@@alepapi9544they are soulbounded too dw
@@alepapi9544 Yeah but theres no way im getting the requirements for 3 legendaries id have zero points left for fortitiude or whatever 0 health buuld? Sounds good to you?
@@user-wb9we3ps9l if you don’t have the req for it, you won’t be able to equip it anyways? Is there something I’m missing lol?
Now I want to make a Hallowtide Gladiator sorta thing. Silent heart w/ all three Hallowtide weapons (Drakemaw Gauntlets, Putrid Edentide, and Bloodtide Trident). I think it'd be fun, especially with the new "dagger talent w/ no daggers" talent
Might do it with the old weapons too, the only weapon i dont have is drakemaw lost it cause i didnt pass it down 💀💀
@@stephansamyn940u can use knowledge for hallowtide weapons
@@stephansamyn940did you not get the badge 😭💀
@@zaiyu7070 badge?
visionshaper rework next please? Clones are cool I guess, but with an oath with so many possibilities using the creative liberties you'd get with complete control over illusions, you'd think you'd have more to it than being 90% clone based, with the remaining 10% being a domain expansion.
they just gotta make it aizen with a domain expansion ngl
Nuh uh.
Yeah I think Visionshaper, aswell as Linkstrider could use some kind of rework. They have cooked with Jetstriker and silentheart so I look forward with what they come up with here.
didnt visionshaper already get a rework?
@@glebs5465 jetstriker rework made it weaker then before
this ain't even silentheart this just the weapon master oath
Who do you think silenthearts are? Some sorcerers or magicians?
@@cliyzzeq Their supposed to be Mantra Haters who hates the song, they could've made some of the skill prevent ether charge or extend cooldown of other mantras or something😭😭
@@cliyzzeqliterally new mantras, silentheart literally exists to counter mage build
@@cliyzzeq They supposed to be the "fuck your mantras" people. BLADEHARPER is the weapon master oath.
tfw when ur SILENT heart but cant even SILENCE mantras
Im glad they gave me a reason to stop playing
Silentheart pve was my jam and now that thats gone,i can just move on to other games.
IT'S REAL?! IS CONQUEST FINALLY O-
and once again my hopes descend to the deepest layers of the abyssal depths, where light is foreign
poetical deception
They would say it’s this week if it was
conquest? Thats just a fever dream dude it was never real
also if you have crazy slots and swap weapons with enchants you can have the same cslots weapon with a diff enchant like swapping from chilling divine spear to detonation divine spear
That goes so hard. Silentheard pairs up insanely well with crazy slots now, if not for the weapon variants of the new sh talents, for the extra freedom having the weapon's skill gives you.
@@kaironst2969it almost feels like the devs intended this synergy. I look forward to the builds people cook up with this oath.
6:06 honestly its worth it to have abysswalker in deepwoken
LOL
Almost as real as Navae giving the nomads our beloved Navaen nomad origin
deepdelver sushi retired, now we have navaen bisque
I wish the Navaen Origin was real
YEAH BOI, TELL EM ! WE NEED A NEW DEEPDELVER SUSHI. (I'll support you)
here we go again....
griggers will always STAY grippy
Unmatched Dexterity is exactly what was needed for a Toji build.
"You must suffer like I have" - Silentheart User.
I’m seeing a vision of a Roland build or Angelica build with the silent heart rework
ME TOO DUDE
purple tear build boutta be wild
Hoooh my god hindere sayo
Ooh (proceeds to wipe half-complete dongrang saltchem build)
That's that, and this is this
Couldn't they just change this up a bit and make it a new oath instead? I kind of liked the old silentheart and it would be nice to have more variety in oaths
nah would be cool if there was oath paths and the old one is a path for like elemental/mantra resistance and this one is more of a combat path.
The old silentheart was an example of terrible game design, and it was not meant to be ingame. It contradicted Deepwoken’s entire “unique builds” system.
@@Geo34 no it was rlly good
@@pegasusrr3156every silentheart build was the same and used the same 5 weapons, as well as not being fun to fight
@@mrtaxcollector9552 no every build wasnt the same
We gonna have furioso with this silenheart 🔥🔥🔥
heroism enchant just got better cause you can use it when you are max hp and switch weapon when the damage boost wear off
hot take mani katti was the only thing that made silent heart viable cool new talents but losing mani katti wasnt really worth it
As a silentheart main mani katti was lame and im glad its gone tbh
Sh is even MORE viable than ever. It can literally mixup thru new item talent and has several weapons to use. Mani katti was only ever useful when it block breaks
mani katti wasn't that good. it was just teleport slashy slash which you can achieve with basically anything in the game.
? if ur legit getting hit by mani katti ur a bot
@@someonexdxd Your glad its gone and it's been replaced by a normal uppercutt????
3:38 *Cough Cough* Suffocation *Cough*
5:10 they removed mani katti for this 💀
I mean the rework's goal was not to buff silentheart.
From the most boring oath to a oath with like way too much mix up and potential
Mani katti only works on lag ppl or ppl who doesnt know how parry
nah they nerfed silent heart
@@than4792 only for pve, but for pvp we finally have mix up with silentheart
holy shit punchee actually not glazing everything in an update
I only kinda disliked the fact we lost mani katti to a slightly improved uppercut. It was like unique as hell, although it was pretty useless since you could just predict it so easily.
But fr though, this rework was insanely good. I just think we should get the mantra resistance or damage buff back, if it's so bad maybe make it proc when you switch weapons.
“SILENTHEART rework is honestly very “””””””cool””””””” funniest line I’ve heard in years
havent played for a long time so i decided to watch all your videos in the last 3 months with my friend
Roland the black silence is gonna go crazy..
that's that and this is this...
the black silences are gonna be CRAZYYYY now
Wdym???
@@grand3640weapon swapping is gonna make the black silence cosplays more accurate
@@2squaredtriangle frrr…
deepwoken got me moving like a monster hunter character
i haven't even played the update and i miss mani katti already 🙏
The only part of this update that I actually like is that we can use dagger talents with different weapons now.
This is how blade harper shouldve been
everybody complaining because they didnt know how to use mantras so they just spammed mani kati and ran
easiest move to parry ever, it's a free punish if your good
removing mani kati which was lets be honest some cool ass move thats very easy to parry is the same way as minecraft removing creepers from the game mani kati was the face of silent heart
sounds like blud was getting greened by them silenthearts
Toji and Roland builds can now truly be complete.
They should make it so you gain a talent that allows you to put 2 or 3 weapons into a slot in which you can bring weapons in and out of without being able to be stolen. This could help with the swapping between weapons, making it easier for people to use this oath without the worry of losing strong weapons.
removing the anti mantra was kinda cheeks since the main purpose of the oath is your patron being pissed about people spamming mantras
silentheart isnt m1 spam anymore 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
HOW IS M1 SPAMMIGN EVEN A THING
Ur obviously gonna spam m1s because u have no mantras 😭
@@ilikegarlicbread316Its not, Bro was making random stuff up, He probably the type to say "Stop blocking" cause bros garbage
@@ilikegarlicbread316 it was a funny thing to say cause people in chime say it lol
Me when people call m1ing and parrying m1 spamming because they spam mantras with no m1s
chain warden and deepspindle combo might be crazy
Holy crap new build time
@@RawRustTW8253 why would it go crazy? They have zero synergies LOL
@@than4792 it does
Chain pull into the shadow vortex!
@@kevenagner69420 whats that cheese got to do with deepspindle
Punchee I use silent heart because I play on console I can't hot swap or use mantra in combat because I need to get the cursor out and click on the thing rather than just press a button how do I plug in a keyboard and mouse this game is all I play and they seem to want console players extinct
Glad i played deepwoken when it was still a barely a pve game, now its all pvp
We going to hit full furioso with this one🗣️🔥🔥
12:33 ‘Hear’ and he still has music playing
That’s why my silent heart build wiped in the dilluvian
btw, crazy slots has crazy synergy with silenheart as the moves change aswell. Also in pve, it would be cool to change to vampirism divine battle axe or astral whilst ifghint
TRUEEE
PUNCHEE, MAKE A "THE BLACK SILENCE" BUILD, AND MY LIFE, IS YOURS!!!!
Its weird that the card says "half of the usual requirements" but its only less 25 points???????????????
I haven't run silent heart in a good while but even I have to say this rework is actual dogshit, they removed the ONLY oath that was capable of handling spell and mantra spam and said "now have fun still getting spammed to death by meta mantra builds!" Like seriously, the main reason the oath existed was to DENY mantras so it would force people to actually use their fucking weapons
dude the feature barely mattered it lasted like 3 seconds and if any of the cheese meta builds got hit by it they will just run away and then continue raining down death on you there was no point
Can’t you just use blindseer’s tranquil circle for anti mantra instead?
@ChanonBoi no clue but all I know is that leveling blindseer is damn near impossible these days
black silence builds are gonna go crazy bruh😭
So silent heart is even better be prepared for the crazy build you can make
The black silence build is real
THE ROLAND BUILD I CAN SEE IT!!!
Toji build
me when i start looking one by one
SIIUUU RONALDO THE GOAT
purple tear,,, you shall be real soon,,,,,
iori jumpscare
IDK how I just noticed that Silent Hearts was just a massive Fire Emblem reference
I like the new rework of silentheart but i hate the fact they remove dmg boost
You know what else should be real? More void lore and the TimeKeeper oath!
How come you didnt mention all the good items getting a new Level Requirement to use for absolutely no reason. That's totally ass. Literally only make the early game slightly harder but much more annoying, since now if you wanted to pass down those items you might just have to bank them until a higher level or risk losing them to a random death. Also dissincentivizes any sort of "roleplay" build where you start with, say, looking like a fighter from a certain faction (eg: Auth helm/plate, Legion plate, Etrean Quirasses, etc.). This really had no reason to be added. The mild Fortitude requirement was enough already on some of the Hats, and the level 10 req already made a bunch of Arms unappealing, on top of them not even being that good in terms of stats.
Can't believe what I'm about to say, but i like the old silentheart better.
Why not just make the Diadem like an alloy that works with the Pleeksty's Inferno and not a helmet equipment? No way I'm passing up a 30 hp helmet for my m1s to apply burn. Looks cool on your head though.
8:34 "Not even lighthook pulling me outta klaris" ahh
I mean, would, also a lighthook definitely not pulling me out
Punchy finally crashed out bro did not like the new helmet
voidwalker origin
wont be the same...
Don’t get me wrong, it looks insanely cool, but I’d be nice to have both ;). Why couldn’t they have just made this a new oath? Or even let you choose if you want the post/pre nerf version.
crazy how they gutted the utility use of voidwalker, like bro so now i cant reset to spawn back at the voidheart and sell my stuff at ferryman... This is completely unnecessary. They had the chance to fix voidwalkers and make it more noob friendly but no they instead nerf the pve use of it.
It’s mainly for pvp tho?
crazy slots builds are eating so good
The silent heart rework is definitely interesting. In terms of PvP I see some extreme combat potential with the Weapon switching and Abilitie variants. I’m honestly really happy about this rework. Now it is unfortunate that PvE builds got nerfed and have become damn near unusable, but it is what it is. There are other PvE build alternatives that are still good. Overall I think this rework is really cool, I love the new attacks, weapon switching( the Toji builds are gonna go crazy) and I look forward to seeing what people come up with.
Yo punchee, if you agree, try sharing it with the devs (i dont have suggestion role)
Chainwarden should have the silentheart treatment. If you can dye the chains, it should also change the color of the mantras.
> Infinite weapon swapping
Fixer named Roland:
pve is cooked since it dosent have the 10% extra dmg for yust having silentheart
Noooo silentheart was perfect what did you do to my boyyyy
TRUE BLACK SILENCE BUILD, LETS GO !
Just wanted to say that i love the hair combos you use in your videos
Abyss Wanderer my ass. That Ozen
OMG THIS REQUIRES CELEBRATIONNN
always waiting on u to make a vid on the new updates so i understand them lmao
its time to become the black silence with this weapon swap mechanic
You scared me with the slientheart mantra thing🙏
All this stuff seems like it would be fun if I could progress that far...
YOU CAN BE TOJI CHANGING WEAPONS WHAAAT
I. Think I hate this rework.
I get shutting down other people's mantras was unfun. But why shift the oath from ya know. Silencing spellcasters. To just being weapon masters? It's an oath about getting revenge on mantra users and the rework doesn't reflect that anywhere nearly as well.
This also seems to be entirely a stat nerf w/no returns on that. Tho that's my opinion I am bias as I have little experience actually using other oaths.
i get what youre saying but it was kinda like, you get a boost of power with the desire of getting revenge on the song, so that's why they kept the dread stacks building up resistance but it should be a weapon master imo because they are supposed to be bounded to not use any mantra's so the only thing they can do is use a weapon and it was already a weapon oath pretty much, so they tied the oath from being a disabler and damage dealer to more of a mantra resistant upgraded weapons master, but people have opinions and i respect it
@@raylight2961 I hate it personally.
Doesnt mean I'm right to do so.
I'll give it time to try it out given silentheart is my only currently surviving pvp build. Hope my opinion changes but I'm afraid if it doesn't.
... Ig I'll go back to trying to make fists work with bladeharper somehow.
Because the devs really like JJK and wanted to add toji without heavenly restriction
Tho honestly silentheart is better when done as weapon master. After all they have to be good at something other than simply swinging a weapon when not using mantras or any attunement
@@zinogre_the_lord you're just jjk brainrotted.
should've reworked blade-harper😭
ur voice makes me feel like i have bugs crawling in my skin
toji builds boutta go crazy
we going back to type soul with this one
11:27 Your moves were lowkey cold af, Punchee
TOJI BUILD FINNA BE CRAZY
Wow, I’ve just spent like everything I’ve had to make a drippy diluvian build with maximum dvm
voidheart shrinking was an L. Since when did we want them to actively remove unique areas of the map.
so they really wanted the bondrewd drip
how about making the authority origin real
are you the new deepdelver sushi
@@Miwhethe torch have been passed
AUTHORITY ON TOP
bro this was amazing but mani katti was so cool man
8:37 OH YAH? WELL THEN WHERE IS THE LEGENDARY HIVE JUSKARITA MECHA ANKLETS?
Cslots, 100 weapon stat, Purple Cloud, Cerulean Thread, and Pale Briar + SH…GODDAMIT I GOTTA WIPE A SLOT
Anti silentheart are gonna be new Mets
Toji fushiguro builds would go crazy with this one
celestial restriction on deepwoken!!!
all im hearing is that silentheart crazyslots builds are just going to be braindead to use
Damn your right, double weapon switch
TIME FOR A ROLAND FROM LIBRARY OF RUINA BUILD
Dante Roland and Maki builds:
krulian knife boutta go crazy