We literally skim the top coat with a metal blade speedskim or 900 spat and power float when it’s picked up alongs it’s not a really cold day. If there’s any trowel lines in it you can rub them out the next day. Great channel you do have a relaxing Christmas 👍
Yeah, have been watching power floats. I would like to try one. They look good. It’s been just Shae and me for so long now, and before that it was just me doing real easy small projects, for an easy life. But if we are to continue working with jasper and the larger projects, may well be worth getting one. At the moment we are relying on rigid rules to get things flat and buff with the hand sponge float. 👍👍
We use all these renders all the time the way to do this in the winter is build the first coat right out to the beads lay mesh on top then for final coat you can skim a nice tight coat and because it’s so thin rubs up a lot quicker works a treat in the winter months
Good one, I tend to do similar in the summer, top coat and rule, then tight coat over the top sponge float and then car sponge up as you move along . I always find rendering the one to watch, it’s so changeable depending on weather conditions, the surfaces your going on to. It takes time and experience to pick up a bag of tricks to suit a situation! Great comment buddy. 👍
Have worked with just about all the acrylic finish coats over the years,with that method you lads and doing no need too sponge it ,trowel it up When its firm and prime it the next day the finish will glade over the wall,if that stuff you lads were using is acrylic based it may be the wrong stuff for low temperatures good old s+c over that scratch with the mesh in it may be the ticket 👍
Trying not to do one of my epic comments (which I know some people don't like because of reading problems!) and this video is about bagged renders but I have to agree with Steve and Sean. Maybe it's because we're of a similar age but don't want to start going down that silly route of 'old plasterer's can't move on' debate! I agree with Smurf when he points out the texture of the finished silicone coat. If I'd ever left my s/c finished coat that rough, builders would have had a fit!! Yes, waiting for s/c to be able to be finished in winter was always an issue. I've already said on another video that I left a scratch coat when the clocks changed as there was no way I was going to put an area as big as in this video on, on my own in winter, as I'd have been trying to rub it up at midnight! I agree that these 'new' (I know they've been about for ages before that rude person says anything!!) bagged renders can be good, if you're happy with the finish and convenient but I'm with Steve's last sentence! Apprentices out there. There are (many) times when plastering means you will not be cosy warm all day and you may finish late because you're waiting for whatever product you're using to go off to a level that can be finished to the required standard. Write that down! 🙂🙂
The bagged renders, webbers ocr is what I’m most used to, can be brought up really nice like s/c. Then painted. I like them, just not so keen on the silicone stage. That’s in tomorrow’s video!
@@Plastersmurf74 Shame I haven't got a video of when dad and I had to patch-up/render then trowel on a coloured Sandtex Hi-Build. What a job that was! I can even remember the exact date- August '99- the year of the full eclipse. I told the builder I was going to stop for 10 mins to watch it! Bit of a let down really! I wore those good quality, yellow, water-proof trousers as that stuff was so sticky. It got worse as when the lady, who'd been away for 2 weeks came back and saw it, she didn't like the colour (which she'd agreed with the builder by using a colour chart). We had to go over the whole lot again (which was the entire building!). I've got a story about those trousers as well. Maybe I'll tell it one day- it ties in with the woman who liked my rough hands shredding her tights!! 😉
Good to see any plasterers working up until Christmas... As jan is always slow. Personally i really want to get behind the silicon systems, turth is in the UK we dont have the climate for it especially when our buildings are exclusively designed to breathe with materials used. So making a building airtite just seems, Almost negligent. OCR is as far willing to go for now Although the EWI product looks fantastic in the right setting. Im probably missing out financially...S&C with drop of lime, has served me well over the years. Yes traditional rendering systems, i completely agree are slow but they will last centuries if done right.
To many products on render now days, looks ok at a distance if done right but you can beat sand and cement and some lime, looks better and more durable, just a bit better on elbows and saves the labourers back 😅, used to be browning , hardwall,or render inside now its plasterboard city,
I’ve quite enjoyed using the Webber ocr and I think the mesh is a good idea. But yeah, that silicone render has a lot of stages to it. Not my favourite thing to do. 👍
@@Plastersmurf74 tbh I was with you on the S&C cos that all you had years ago but once you’ve got the knack of these systems for me being an old git so much better and less labour. The only downfalls are the weather and masking up of everything. Did a course with baumit 10years or so ago might be worth you and your lad doing it for a few days as they do show you a few tricks that come in handy which is worth doing just for that alone. And if ya lads in it for the long haul knowledge is king 👍
Jesper needs to give his head a wobble . I dont know why he thinks you can do rendering in this weather . It just doesnt dry and ut dont make sense . I really hate when builders or customers ask to do rendering in the winter . It just doesnt make sense . Plus it rained aswell . Rather you then me .
i rendered 2 years ago 3 weeks before xmas, full bungalow, got the scratch on in 10 degrees, when in came to top coat, it dropped to 3 in the day, then rained and then -3 over night, the fucker froze for over a week, all my sheets i put up to protect the surface blew into the render and the rain then ice froze to the surface, never ever again!!!! now i take a month off at xmas, lifes to short for that stress. anything under 15 degrees do not waste your life 😂
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Its the product mate all render needs heat i think u done the right thing hiting it with the 20 inch trowel good job
We literally skim the top coat with a metal blade speedskim or 900 spat and power float when it’s picked up alongs it’s not a really cold day. If there’s any trowel lines in it you can rub them out the next day. Great channel you do have a relaxing Christmas 👍
Yeah, have been watching power floats. I would like to try one. They look good. It’s been just Shae and me for so long now, and before that it was just me doing real easy small projects, for an easy life.
But if we are to continue working with jasper and the larger projects, may well be worth getting one.
At the moment we are relying on rigid rules to get things flat and buff with the hand sponge float. 👍👍
We use all these renders all the time the way to do this in the winter is build the first coat right out to the beads lay mesh on top then for final coat you can skim a nice tight coat and because it’s so thin rubs up a lot quicker works a treat in the winter months
Good one, I tend to do similar in the summer, top coat and rule, then tight coat over the top sponge float and then car sponge up as you move along .
I always find rendering the one to watch, it’s so changeable depending on weather conditions, the surfaces your going on to.
It takes time and experience to pick up a bag of tricks to suit a situation!
Great comment buddy. 👍
The 20×5 trowel saved the day !
Have worked with just about all the acrylic finish coats over the years,with that method you lads and doing no need too sponge it ,trowel it up
When its firm and prime it the next day the finish will glade over the wall,if that stuff you lads were using is acrylic based it may be the wrong stuff for low temperatures good old s+c over that scratch with the mesh in it may be the ticket 👍
Cheers Ireland. 👍
Trying not to do one of my epic comments (which I know some people don't like because of reading problems!) and this video is about bagged renders but I have to agree with Steve and Sean. Maybe it's because we're of a similar age but don't want to start going down that silly route of 'old plasterer's can't move on' debate!
I agree with Smurf when he points out the texture of the finished silicone coat. If I'd ever left my s/c finished coat that rough, builders would have had a fit!!
Yes, waiting for s/c to be able to be finished in winter was always an issue. I've already said on another video that I left a scratch coat when the clocks changed as there was no way I was going to put an area as big as in this video on, on my own in winter, as I'd have been trying to rub it up at midnight!
I agree that these 'new' (I know they've been about for ages before that rude person says anything!!) bagged renders can be good, if you're happy with the finish and convenient but I'm with Steve's last sentence!
Apprentices out there. There are (many) times when plastering means you will not be cosy warm all day and you may finish late because you're waiting for whatever product you're using to go off to a level that can be finished to the required standard. Write that down! 🙂🙂
The bagged renders, webbers ocr is what I’m most used to, can be brought up really nice like s/c. Then painted. I like them, just not so keen on the silicone stage. That’s in tomorrow’s video!
@@Plastersmurf74 Shame I haven't got a video of when dad and I had to patch-up/render then trowel on a coloured Sandtex Hi-Build. What a job that was! I can even remember the exact date- August '99- the year of the full eclipse. I told the builder I was going to stop for 10 mins to watch it! Bit of a let down really! I wore those good quality, yellow, water-proof trousers as that stuff was so sticky. It got worse as when the lady, who'd been away for 2 weeks came back and saw it, she didn't like the colour (which she'd agreed with the builder by using a colour chart). We had to go over the whole lot again (which was the entire building!).
I've got a story about those trousers as well. Maybe I'll tell it one day- it ties in with the woman who liked my rough hands shredding her tights!! 😉
Looked like a cold day. I bet your looking forward to some time off at Christmas. Lets hope Jasper doesnt want you in on boxing day! Take care.
Apparently he is planning a full 2 weeks off!
@@Plastersmurf74 Wow, im surprised!
Good to see any plasterers working up until Christmas... As jan is always slow.
Personally i really want to get behind the silicon systems, turth is in the UK we dont have the climate for it especially when our buildings are exclusively designed to breathe with materials used. So making a building airtite just seems, Almost negligent.
OCR is as far willing to go for now Although the EWI product looks fantastic in the right setting.
Im probably missing out financially...S&C with drop of lime, has served me well over the years. Yes traditional rendering systems, i completely agree are slow but they will last centuries if done right.
Mad dog's and English men build walls in the Midday sun for Plasters to Render 1 week before Xmas 😉
Dont sponge just float
To many products on render now days, looks ok at a distance if done right but you can beat sand and cement and some lime, looks better and more durable, just a bit better on elbows and saves the labourers back 😅, used to be browning , hardwall,or render inside now its plasterboard city,
I’ve quite enjoyed using the Webber ocr and I think the mesh is a good idea. But yeah, that silicone render has a lot of stages to it. Not my favourite thing to do. 👍
@@Plastersmurf74 tbh I was with you on the S&C cos that all you had years ago but once you’ve got the knack of these systems for me being an old git so much better and less labour. The only downfalls are the weather and masking up of everything. Did a course with baumit 10years or so ago might be worth you and your lad doing it for a few days as they do show you a few tricks that come in handy which is worth doing just for that alone. And if ya lads in it for the long haul knowledge is king 👍
All the masking up would drive me insane, whats wrong with a sponge
Yeah, it’s pretty wasteful I must admit. But that’s what has been specified here. Had to do it. 👍
Jesper needs to give his head a wobble . I dont know why he thinks you can do rendering in this weather . It just doesnt dry and ut dont make sense . I really hate when builders or customers ask to do rendering in the winter . It just doesnt make sense . Plus it rained aswell . Rather you then me .
It’s just been one of those on this job, large project which has had a few complications .
thats so depressing
i rendered 2 years ago 3 weeks before xmas, full bungalow, got the scratch on in 10 degrees, when in came to top coat, it dropped to 3 in the day, then rained and then -3 over night, the fucker froze for over a week, all my sheets i put up to protect the surface blew into the render and the rain then ice froze to the surface, never ever again!!!! now i take a month off at xmas, lifes to short for that stress. anything under 15 degrees do not waste your life 😂
Sounds like a complete nightmare!