I drive and review a Proton 1.3! (Proton Saga Iswara)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2023
- I take this base model 1994 Proton 1.3 GE Mpi out for a drive, showing you all around the exterior and interior. We look at blanking plates, we can visibly see clanging metal, and we enjoy the driving refinement of this rather lovely classic.
Thanks to Simon Willis (@Si200679 on Twitter) for letting me borrow his car.
If you'd like more Proton content, Jon Coupland who I mention a couple of times in this video has a channel filled with them www.youtube.com/@JonCoupland/...
Thank you for watching! 
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Now watch the viewing figures for this video soar. Proton still have a big following in Malaysia and they will love this review.
Absolutely... greeting from KL
Actually, not really much of a following, more like a love & hate relationship. Malaysians would often blame Proton for causing the massive increase in prices for non-Malaysian cars.
My car 1995 .. love from Malaysia 😊
Yup. Since the find of the Knight car that sold for a pretty penny, these cars prices (especially the early ones) have been going up. They will probably me collectors items soon with the hype they are getting 👍
indeed!
Dad had one when I was a toddler. Some of my earliest memories of automobiles are of this car. Always nice to see an old Proton.
My mother used this since before i even remember when i remember everything.
Im 23 now man i miss that proton saga iswara malaysian model.
Rare to see these car in such good condition now
I still use my father's proton 1.3 from 1998 up till now
Awesome!
the sudden influx of proton car review will make this car prices goes up.
Love Proton. Greetings from Malaysia 🇲🇾
Not from Malaysia..originally made in Indonesia...
@@faridfar8142 🤣🤣🤣🤣You are a nut case!!!
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Japanese technology , Perodua from Daihatsu Toyota , Indonesia Good luck
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Japanese technology, Perodua from Daihatsu Toyota, Indonesia Good luck..
@@faridfar8142Woooo claim why not..everything Indonesia people want claim 😂😂 so sad
I still have family members that drive this pristine condition
Hi..im from malaysia..and i have 1 proton saga iswara..this nice car...thanks for review this car mate....
Greetings from Malaysia.
Car enthusiasts like me always envy with UK spec proton cars.
Firstly we never had EFi as standard except for some UK reject cars that were sold by Proton to its staff.
Secondly UK Sagas had 5 trim levels for sedan. Another 5 for the hatchback. If i remember correctly it was GE, GL, GLS and SE and another somewhere in the middle.
Malaysia only gets either the mid range known as S (Sederhana or Medium) and the high spec I (Istimewa or Special). I believe the equivalent of GL and SE in UK.
Third. For some internal reasons UK specs received the dashboard from Mitsubishi donor. It could be either
A. Safety reasons. As per regulated by the local authority.
B. Fuel injection system. Malaysian spec cars dont have check engine light and the ECU wiring looms.
4th. Saga in Malaysia also make do without sunroof, but yes with a warm weather the whole year round anyone would prefer to have AC than scorching heat sunshine from the roof.
The blank plate at the handbrake is actually for electric mirror control for high spec SE models. The power window switches are located on the door card with full length arm rest. For lower trim variant with power windows the switch is there instead.
Iswara is the 1st major revamp but actually the 4th revision to the original Saga.
The 5th one is called LMSS, only the hatchback, only 1.3 and only silver. This was in 2002 until 2003.
The 6th and last was another major revamp known as LMST and lasted from 2003 until 2007.
In 2008 an all new Saga was launched known as Saga BLM. And in 2016 another new Saga replaced this which is known as Saga VVT
Such a great review! We rented a Proton just like this, but in red, on a family trip to Kuala Lumpur in 1995. The car unfortunately broke down in Penang after wading through a monsoon, but was back on the road again after a simple repair. Thanks for bringing back the memories!
Thank you! I am visiting Penang in September, but not intending to rent a car I don't think...!
Haha ... that's my grandma's car. The automobile competition is very tight, you would be astonished to see there are many models of Proton cars now with quality no more clanky sounds to them. And there's another second Malaysian car manufacturers, the Perodua.
Good to see your review on Proton. Have a nice day 👍
Fun fact. The previous owner spec'd it from the dealer with the 12v adapter. That was not a standard feature on the GE 😅
Fun fact 2. The previous owner spec’d it from the dealer with an engine. Normally they were horse / mule drawn on the GE.
Oooh. Now that is indeed a fun fact, love that
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That one addition doubled it's value.
Proton 1.5 MPi was the first car I ever sold when I worked in a garage when I was 20. Coming from a 1983 base Fiesta, this felt like a Rolls Royce! I was jealous of the new owner!
Yes I bet! The Proton definitely felt well equipped for a budget price
12:56 “When you push it in, it squirts.”
😂😂😂😂
uhh
Legend
Having indicators on right hand side of steering wheel is the sensible thing on a right-hand drive car. Means you can indicate pus change gear at the same time
Yeah, I'm sure you are right!
I saw this car today in a hot wheel toy and I thought it's the Mitsubishi Galante. So I had to search it. Nice review.
To quote Cold War Motors: "Turn up the Base!"
Proton Sagas were pretty popular in the 1990s in the part of east Kent that I grew up in, due to there being at least four dealers in the vicinity (and a lot of people who saw the appeal of cheap new cars based on tried and tested engineering with generous warranties and standard-fit Blaupunkt stereos!), but I don't ever recall seeing a GE version. The mid-range models seemed to be the most commonplace.
Yeah, the GE was particularly miserly given the time. Basic cars became just a touch less austere by the mid 90s
@@MorselsAndMotorsI reckon that most base model Sagas were either bought by taxi drivers or used by dealers to entice customers into buying better equipped versions, rather like the mark 1 Ford Sierra base was:
"It's a nice car, but look what you could get for a few Pounds more!"
I am from Malaysia to want to say thanks You because review this car model by proton..❤🎉
My pleasure
My uncle drove a Saga Iswara in Malaysia back then. Exterior is almost the same, but the dashboard and switches/controls looked very different. There's 4 big buttons (2 on each side) flanking the meter cluster, for hazard lights, rear windscreen heater and aircon master switch. We also didn't have those big knobs for wipers and headlights.
That dashboard design was designated for export model to UK.
Here we called it the 'UK spec'.
If I remember correctly, the reason the Proton Saga cars that were sold in the United Kingdom were fitted with a different dashboard and instrument panel was because the Malaysian styled dashboard didn't meet strict UK safety standards.
So what Proton did was to retrofit the dashboard and instrument cluster from the original Mitsubishi Lancer Fiore, which the Saga was based upon.
There were also other minor differences between the Malaysian variant and the export ones. For example, the bonnet emblem for the local variety is actually illuminated for purely cosmetic purposes. The UK transport ministry has regulations against frontal lights that are not headlamps, fog lights or signal lights therefore in the UK variant the bulb and wiring that sits behind the bonnet emblem was entirely removed.
I bought one of these in 2000 for a few hundred pounds and it ran faultlessly for 4 years. It was basic transport but with very heavy steering.
Love that kind of survivor 😊
I used to own a K reg 1.5GL triple valve in silver with Alloys and full body kit. Really liked it.
OMG I've just clocked how much it reminds me of a US Chevy Corsica - like,the angular dorkiness of it, such a shared out-of-style style :D
I always had a soft spot for these Protons. Wouldn't have minded one of these myself as I always liked 'underdog' cars. Shame that they don't sell 'em in the UK anymore. I think Proton priced themselves out of the UK car market.
When You Cannot Competed With China,Malaysia Or Other Country Brand Put Sanction,Caatsa And Regulations Like Euro1,2,3,4,5
Grettings from France, where my father used to drive a Citroën BX, then a Mitsubishi lancer, in the early 80’s…
Those clunky doors…😊
Thank you very mutch for that, i really enjoy your tone.
Waiting for the next one ..
Jérôme
Thank you! I would love to drive a BX sometime...
I remember reading an article from an interview with Malcolm Bricklyn where he said it was a toss-up whether to import Proton or Yugo into the United States.
He chose Yugo because he could sell them cheaper and Proton would have been almost the same price as a Hyundai
I think Proton would have been successful because they were larger and more powerful cars and we're available with automatic transmissions and air conditioning. Two things that American buyers consider essential no matter how inexpensive a vehicle. Plus by using proven Japanese Mechanicals it would have been much more reliable
And yet Yugo fail in the states 😂
What he wanted do was replace the Yugo with the Proton. Something Mitsubishi was never going to allow to happen. This car was already being sold as the Dodge/Plymouth Colt, the Mitsubishi Mirage and as the Eagle Summit. They didn't want the cheaper Proton taking sales away from the the three models already on the market it. This model style was replaced in 1990 here in the US.
Well done Sion a great video have always liked the original protons we had a dealership around here Gra Mar Motors and they sold loads in the back yard of Rover at longbridge they once were really common it was a great package which appealed to many for different reasons sad to see proton have now left the UK isn’t it
Brilliant video. I remember these proton cars being taxi cars, very popular with taxi drivers. I owned a 52 plate proton Impian very good reliable car. It's a shame proton cars have left the UK Market.
Yes sir,the company doesn't export the cars to UK anymore,as the company was mismanaged, Quality of the later rebadged models very bad ,sales went down then, Malaysians switched to another another Brand Perodua a new joint venture company between Daihatsu of Japan.😊
Love the delivery. Keep them coming
Thank you! Will do!
Wow this car still very very beautiful...
Nice keeping mate! 🇲🇾First model national car hopes you keep maintenance it and one day drive to 🇲🇾 on ours National Day 31 8👏👏
Fun! I loved seeing all the Protons when I was in Malaysia last year
I've driven this car once, manual transgender, very luxurious and smooth
Great video 😀 Car reminds me of the 1985 Sunny my parents had back then.
Yes, there's quite a bit of Sunny in the side profile in particular
The blank at the center console is for the power windows for the front only and beside the blank at the climate controls is the clock
@11:16 Cigar lighters is an interesting topic that's rarely discussed. When I worked as a valeter for Ford back in 1999 to 2000, we had many long line-ups of ex-motability 1996/7 Fiesta Encore and Escort Encore/CL base models and they all had big round blank buttons where the cigar lighter would be. Also, my sister's first car was a 1995 106 XND Graduate - one up from base - and still no lighter. Some ten years later, she was ordering a new Smart ForTwo where an ashtray and lighter was a £280 option. She did not tick that box.
It's funny, they were absolutely necessary for the smokin' 70s and 80s. Slightly started to fall out of favour in the 90s and 00s, but essential again for sat-navs and mobile phones from the 10s onwards!
man i really love the interior design
I love this
Apart from maybe power steering, you have got everything you need! Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Reminds me of my 1976 Polo N I bought new, where the passenger sun visor was an option. Otherwise the car was fabulous with the 895cc engine. I went on to have a further 3 of these over 4 years as the base spec improved to include passenger sun visor, reversing lights and rear wash/wipe.
This car is a really a work horse. Robust and reliable in my opinion. I own 2 of them. A manual 1.3 and a auto 1.5.
Loved to see a proton again … I went to test drive one when they had just launched wanted something a bit bigger than my early mk2 fiesta 1.3 Ghia - however much as I liked it , hatchback I drove GL aerodeck not base spec ) they wouldn’t give me enough as trade jn .. ended up buying a used cavalier 1.8i CD in Helios blue 5 door
A friend of mine bought a GE saloon new from a Somerset dealer I had few trips in it with her, forgot just how basic the GE spec was.. hers was not even metallic a solid “flame” red
This is immaculate. I love cars like this. This GE may be quite a late-production 1994 model but you still had only one door mirror. The steel wheels bring back memories for me, because they are the same as the ones my dad had on his 1990 Mitsubishi Space Wagon.
Yeah, it's such a late car with only one door mirror. Glad the wheels trigger happy memories!
Steel wheels weren’t a “cheap car” thing in the ‘90s - you had to go fairly well up the Polo and Golf ranges to even get wheel trims out of VW, until around the time the Mk 4 Golf came out, and many a lowlier spec Mk 4 Astra was delivered with steel wheels and centre caps, well into the new millennium.
@@BungleBare You are actually spot on here. You'll be thinking of the circa-2000 Astra Envoy and LS, Golf CL and GL and Polo 6N up to GL. I do remember now indeed. It was also rare to see even Passats with alloys pre-2000. Many of those up to B4 GL had full trims that did not quite cover the rim edges.
My father bought the Proton Saga Iswara 2004 edition. Its like the old model. Just some minor changes like adding a digital clock and lights at the driver's displays. The air-conditioning got more settings to it like temperature and speed. Driver and the left passenger windows(just the front though)are now have switches.
wow mint condition proton saga so good
Hello! Nice video. Love these time capsule cars. Isn’t the triangle warning light in the cluster for the hazard warning lights?
i have 1992 Iswara 1.3L AeroBack version, come with 5 MT, carburetor, and power stering. power windows at front, and mechanical at back. boot wall cover with carpet and pvc, no vibrate at all. they fix it.. even the engine hood install with sound proof pad.. but for sure, we not got what proton give like what export model.. i like UK spec meter panel anyway..
As are malaysian..thanks for this vidoe.
Blanking plate by the handbrake is for the electric mirrors on the higer spec model.
Thank you
Back in late 90s when i was out and about on the nightclubs scene a taxi driver had one of these and he said they had a Mitsubishi motor in them and he said it never missed a beat and had 180+k on it.😊
mr.bean stuck his golf ball to this car
Oh yess 😂
Those Switches for the lights and the wipers remind me of the early 1980's Subaru's
when i was younger i always wanted the lotus proton it was a stunning looking car
I'm a young generation, but reading your cooment sends up chills in me, could really feels the dreams built up everytime looking at the "gorgeous" car. The feel is real, and it's gold for sure
👍👍👍
amazing cars
Amazing only in terms of how much it cost Malaysian tax payers to subsidise each one built.
Tq sir
Hi there! Glad I came across this vid of yours today. And glad that you're coming here this September. Hope you'll have a great stay in M'sia.
As a local, I don't see many old Proton Sagas (old model) on Malaysian roads now but the new ones (new model).
Thank you! I’m really looking forward to my trip, and hope I’ll see some Sagas!
when I lived in Southbourne I remember a dealership there moving from Lada to Proton and I think they became the top selling Proton dealer in the UK in short order ( elderly retired clientele more interested in price of course ) and I met a mini-cabbie in Weymouth who had one that had done 330k and he sold it to a mate to use as a mini-cab whilst he upgraded to a newer one with about 150k on the odometer ......... not classy but bloody reliable if looked after
Wow, that a huge amount of miles. Definitely shows the reliability
Yes you are right, they are bloody reliable. 30 years on and still many of malaysian roads 😊
fun fact: the 2nd gen of the proton saga iswara is known as proton s16 in australia
Lagend car long lasting
Not in Malaysia where the standard is so poor they get crashed every other day.
Great beater car
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Proton Iswara has always been my favorite budget car compared to the new ones.
I always think to myself that I should get one of these to drive around and not care about but knowing the market on these is going up as they are becoming collectable, I'll probably fix it up and not be able to use it as I intend to 😅
Wow..good..
Lagend car
Satellite pods 😍
Soooooo amazing!
These were called the Proton MPi in the UK.
From Malaysia views you video❤
At 11min55sec, the blanking plate beside the handbrake is where the electric mirror controls would go.
when Chris Goffey reviewed the Proton on TG those wells at the side of the boot were full of water where the boot rubbers were leaking
Eek! Didn't know that
I had a 1987 Dodge Colt that plug in the console is where the controls for the electric side mirrors lived. I always thought it was an odd place to put it.
The owner surely wouldn't mind you borrowing the car a little bit longer in this heatwave.
This is my country's car. Malaysia
I remember the garage that sold that car. Sadly no longer there. Do you have a new Volvo daily? I’m sure I’ve seen a xc60 in the background of your videos. Also love your channel your 2 fiestas are my favourite cars you have
Yes, very well spotted! I bought an XC60 a couple of months ago. I should probably do a video on it!
Still driving this old banger. It’s my mom’s. Only have to get tow 2 times.
Hope neither tow was too serious!
Fairly sure that the 1.5 version was a relative of the engine used in the first Hyundai Lantra..
Nice car made in malaysia 90an..
AKU TETAP SETIA BERSAMA ISWARA SAKA...😁👍☕
Really reminds me of a Peugeot 309 (not a bad thing at all)
Hi, how much was that car you purchased in 1994 ?
Fun fact, Lincolnshire Police used the later Proton Wiras with LPG conversions.
Humberside :) - not Lincs :)
My dad owned a Saga Iswara 1.3 S(base model) back then...but he already sold it in 2019...so sad😢😢😢
Nasib baik beli iriz baru. Perodua boleh buat comeback ke kat sini?
Ayah saya ada satu Proton Saga Iswara Aeroback
Malaysian people proton love especially man n women car uk spec n mlaysian/Japanese spec
Malaysians love the UK spec dashboard and else...often we swap the stock dash and meters to a more modern uk spec stuff...
14:25 Were you joking about the warning thingy? Ofcourse it's the hazard flashers warning light. Otherwise it seems very much like the 1983 model Mitsubishi Lancer (the 4-door Colt), upgraded in some areas, such as the fuel injection on the engine, and downgraded in some other areas (insulation!) to keep the price down. Except for the 5-speed gearbox, the standard equipment seems identical to the 1985 Colt base model, the "EL". I'd take it any day over a Lada!
T.q sir
In malaysia crome lining...
I used to own the pre facelift model..It came with the 1.4l 3 valve engine but with carburettor instead of fuel injection..
My car had a lighter steering..after an accident had to replace the whole rack..it became heavier..so this facelift model all do have heavier steering..
The gearbox all has the same clunkiness..as for the bootlid quality it's actually the skin came loose from the frame .they use "chewing gum" to stick them together 😂😂..
Smoker-friendly car.
kihkihkih!
Did this example have the loud high-pitched warning buzzer that would sound when you put the key in the ignition with the door open? Or did you have to buy the GL to get that? Gavin from the Petrolblog channel owned a same-age posh 1.5 SE Aeroback with the buzzer, and it really annoyed him in a quite recent video when he was trying to sell it.
No I’m sure I left the key in a few times and definitely never heard a buzzer. Must be a posh model thing !
@@MorselsAndMotors Fair enough. You would know about it, if you heard it. :)
@@MorselsAndMotors I disconnected it!
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only 1 side mirror, please explain
UK law says you only need two rear-facing mirrors, so one on the driver's door and one in the centre of the windscreen comply. Cost cutting on budget cars!
Is this the golf ball car from the Mr. Bean episode?
hmm the interior is quite different from malaysia's version.
I do like your shirt where did you get it ?
Hehe thank you! It's a Ted Baker one, which I actually got from a charity shop in Ely
Actually... Proton Iswara are based from the "Mitsubishi Fiore"... We here in Malaysia, Modify inside/outside From Mitsubishi Part...
Thank UK, With love from Malaysia...
I'm a Malaysian so I know this