Battleship Texas, Firing The Guns Step-By-Step

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • This is the introductory video for a series that takes a detailed in depth look at the design and fabrication of the components that were part of the 14" guns used on Battleship Texas.

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  • @chriscampbell2327
    @chriscampbell2327 2 года назад +294

    It is interesting that these were designed with pencil, paper and a slide rule, no computers. Also no high tech computers to aim or fire the guns either. I am so amazed by the ingenious mechanical designs back then.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +43

      What fascinates me the most were systems found on later ships where the turrets were directly controlled by the fire control computers using servo systems. While sensors, like search and fire control radars, were electronic, the computers and servos were purely electro-mechanical. They largely eliminated human error and could aim and hold on target faster and better. It was unfortunate that it wasn't feasible to adapt Texas to utilize them, but I'm glad they didn't try. It would have required heavy modifications that would have eliminated these early systems and the history that we can still see.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 2 года назад

      @@stevesmith9151 Guns as a main ships weapon are obsolete. There is a reason why they don't build them like that anymore. large Anti-ship missiles would still sink a Des Moines. Traditional naval guns maxed out at ranges of 21 miles modern Cruise missiles have ranges of a 1,000 miles.
      The primary role of Modern Warships is to defend Airspace and to hunt submarines. You cannot defend hundreds of miles of Airspace with Naval Artillery. With modern SM-6 missiles you can.
      As for LCS they were a shit show caused by corrupt politicians and flawed "threat" perceptions. However the Modern Burk and Tico ships have been doing their job for nearly 40 years without complaint.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 2 года назад +13

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 I think it really made sense to not upgrade Texas since she was not intended for surface actions but was being used as a shore bombardment platform. Along with New York and Arkansas and Nevada they were the oldest Battleships in the fleet. Whats great was that Texas against the odds was saved and preserved so we get a great time capsule.
      My personal dream would be when the Navy decommissions the USS San Jacinto (A Ticonderoga class Cruiser) it could be preserved in Texas along side USS Texas. It would be great since the two ships encompassed over 120 years of Naval History of the United States showing the evolution of Navy warships from 1912 to 2020.
      Both ships have a lot in common- Both ships had long service lifes (31 years for Texas, 35+ years for San Jacinto) both fielded new advanced capabilities but were followed by improved follow on classes (14inch guns on Texas, followed by Standard type Battleships) (Ageis Defense system on the San J, which was later used on the Burk class DDGs) Both had major refits to keep them relevant in the changing combat envoirments (Tripod masts radar and anti-Aircraft guns for Texas, Improved Firecontrol Systems for San J.)

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 2 года назад

      ​@@stevesmith9151 Do you know what they found out about the Bikini Bomb Tests? that Nukes don't do that much damage to ships unless they were relatively close. Only one ship that was 1,000 meters from ground zero actually sank and that was a dry dock. Many Ships survived the bomb test including ships that were not war ships that had little in the way of Armor Several Destroyers survived much closer to the blasts and they do NOT have high survivability. The bomb test revealed that while nukes were deadly to ships up close ships were not nearly as heavily damaged at greater distances. However all ships would have been killed by Radiation since all the ships involved had Lethel levels of radiation.
      If you think a Hypersonic missile traveling at 5,000 Miles Per Hour is not going to dent Class B armor you are an idiot. just kinetic energy alone would be devastating to any ship.
      There Are anti-ship missiles intended to sink 100,000 Ton Fleet Carriers.
      Yamato and Musashi were sunk with concentrated air attack involving dumb bombs and unguided Torpedos.
      What the hell are you talking about "modern Sabot ammo" Are you talking about Tank Rounds? or Hypersonic projectiles- Hypersonic projectiles have been cancelled and either way would have inferior performance to Missiles.
      And no they were not even close to having "Sabot" rounds for the Iowas.
      "nothing Left on Earth that could go Toe to Toe with an Iowa and survive."
      Nonsense. Complete Utter Nonsense. It is in fact not that hard to sink a battleship if you have the right weapons avaible. IF you don't think that you can't build Missiles that can defeat Armor that was only rated against 2,000lb AP super heavy guns from specific angles (You probably don't even understand that Battleship Armor is built to take rounds at specific angles and distances.
      You can litterally build a missile with More Mass than a YAMATO shell with many times the velocity and target the ship from angles it was never intended to survive.
      That is the Reason why Armor is not a priority for the Navy anymore. You can always build your missile or Torpedo bigger and shoot from farther. No ship can be made invincible.

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol 2 года назад +6

      @@stevesmith9151 what for? To be sunk from over the horizon where guns cant reach? 😉

  • @dflo4165
    @dflo4165 Год назад +58

    I remember back when stationed on a tender at the submarine base in San Diego, we were told the New Jersey was coming into port at North Island. We found the highest spot to watch it come in. It reminded me of the Star Wars battle cruisers because of the triangular shape as it started to appear in the distance. Then we were amazed at just how big that ship was. Huge is an understatement!! The Star Wars thing is what I will never forget!!

    • @theonlyegg
      @theonlyegg Год назад

      Were you watching from up on Point Loma somewhere?

  • @OneLastHitB4IGo
    @OneLastHitB4IGo Год назад +28

    My Pappy joined the Navy in 1937 and went through training on board the USS Texas. Always said it was his favorite ship. He got moved to the USS Lexington and his Navy career ended when he was badly wounded at the Battle of Coral Sea and the Lexington was sunk.

    • @marthakrumboltz2710
      @marthakrumboltz2710 Год назад +2

      Sailed with an engineer Lester L Anderson on ocean tugs was @ coral sea on the Lex. Chief Bos’n Mate. So tough he ate hot sauce on his corn flakes. Not a sea story either

    • @thomasrswartzjr3821
      @thomasrswartzjr3821 Год назад +1

      My thanks to your "Pappy" for his sacrifice and service.

  • @slapeters2004
    @slapeters2004 3 месяца назад +1

    I didn’t realize how fast these rounds go. 2700 feet per second is the equivalent of about 1841 miles per hour- basically close to Mach III. That is incredible for basically an analogue system and 1940’s technology. I would not want to be in the receiving end of one of these rounds. That is an insane amount of power per 14” gun!! Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video. I’ve always wondered about how these guns work (and work so well at that!).

  • @shaundis2117
    @shaundis2117 2 года назад +7

    i`ve never seen this explained so well .also, i`ve never seen how the compressed air trick worked. thank you for this

  • @Bosco-gets-it-right
    @Bosco-gets-it-right Год назад +2

    Good balance of info, enough for us laymen to understand, not too much to bore us to death. Thank you!

  • @CJ-nt4cs
    @CJ-nt4cs Год назад +12

    My father was a brilliant tooling engineer who did everything on a good old fashioned drawing board. I started out on the drawing board and then taught myself CAD in the late 90's. He and I were the sole suppliers of a lockwire that held the tail cone assembly to the rocket body of the hydra 70 rockets for over 30 years. I often wonder about the brilliant engineers of those days. If they had CAD can you imagine?

    • @alaskanbas6507
      @alaskanbas6507 Год назад +2

      That's cool! And the Hydra 70 rockets are still going strong, also being turned into guided munitions in the form of APKWS, amazing stuff. While I can work with CAD, I really prefer drawing with pencil and paper. It just makes it easier to visualize what I'm picturing clearly, after which it can be made in CAD of course.

    • @maxpower9631
      @maxpower9631 Год назад

      if you have half a mind....why is CAD amazing...??

  • @n6mz
    @n6mz Год назад +25

    Very interesting ratio, 1500lb shell to 420 lb propellant or 150/42. A typical 308 Winchester rifle cartridge might have a 150 grain projectile and around 42 grains of propellant giving a muzzle velocity around 2800 ft/s. Ballistics is absolutely fascinating.

    • @hanc37
      @hanc37 Год назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing, except it was 30-06 that I was thinking of. The 308 and 30-06 are only about 200 fps difference, so it hardly matters I suppose. I'm just glad there are still people with a like mind...

    • @Lakeman3211
      @Lakeman3211 Год назад

      As this video was playing that very thought was tracing thru my curiosity, I was heading to the calculator, other web sites…thanks for the quick reference! I do think case pressures are higher on smaller ballistics bores? I came back and the .308 has 62k lbs of case pressure there is a ratio in there….,

    • @alfredmorency8296
      @alfredmorency8296 Год назад +1

      169,925,000 ft⋅lbf

    • @Strelnikov403
      @Strelnikov403 11 месяцев назад

      75/21, reduce your damn fractions smdh

  • @Cirux321
    @Cirux321 2 года назад +22

    Really enjoy your videos Tom. The time and research you put in to these are very much appreciated.

  • @ntvypr4820
    @ntvypr4820 Год назад +4

    The USS Constitution and WWII Battleships were my first love as a young 10 year old boy starting to build models around 1970. Every year my family took a two week vacation to Georgia (my mother's family is there) from Louisiana where my dad is from. He was a WWII, Korea and Vietnam vet of 24 years in the Army Air Corp and then the new USAF. Thing is on this trip was the USS Alabama in Mobile, and I recall I had to behave on that miserably long trip or we would not get to stop at the Alabama. When we got near I used to hunger for a view of it in the distance towering over the shoreline structures. it's not the Texas, I've seen her from a distance passing through Houston (and I understand she is undergoing an extensive restoration right now), but to get to crawl all over a true battleship was this ten year old's yearly joy for a few years. All mine and my dad's too I guess because we dragged along my 3 siblings and my mom. I even visited it again on my own honeymoon with my new (very indulgent) very beautiful wife in 1979. Battleships have a mystique that Aircraft carriers just don't have. Carriers are like floating hornets nests, they get the job done being full of bugs with stingers, cool in their own way. But NOTHING beats the brute force, pure pounding and national pride a battleship can dish out. I'm 63 now but, God! I STILL love battleships! They are wicked and intimidating looking. T.R. Roosevelt knew what he was doing when he sent the White Fleet around the world. Anyway, we won't build anymore so we should SAVE ALL that remain!! Thank you for this wonderful video. I have always wondered just exactly how firing worked. I knew the basic mechanics but the point to point illustrations were very informative. Many, many thanks, and I'll shut up now.

    • @wlong1794
      @wlong1794 Год назад

      go to battleship cove if you haven't yet.

  • @wayneantoniazzi2706
    @wayneantoniazzi2706 Год назад +7

    Thanks! I knew the basics but always wondered how they ignited the main charges.
    I found it interesting that the max bore pressure when firing was 36,000 pounds per square inch. For comparison, a 30-06 cartridge has a bore pressure of about 46,000 PSI.
    But of course, we're talking about a HELL of a lot more volume in that 14" rifle!

  • @rondoway123456
    @rondoway123456 Год назад +2

    Took the full indepth tour of the USS Iowa now moored in San Pedro California. I was blown away by the technology, history and esprit de corps of the ships crew. I highly recommend a tour of this amazing piece of floating history.

  • @MyS10Rocks
    @MyS10Rocks Год назад +5

    Outstanding video! Thank you! What caught my attention was the chamber pressure, 36k psi is incredible and while I understand the huge volume of the chamber takes a tremendous amount of gas to achieve those pressure ratings, I was comparing it to a 5.56mm rifle cartridge that produces around 58k psi chamber pressure, but in a really tiny chamber (in comparison). Thanks again!

  • @Mrmartins345
    @Mrmartins345 2 года назад +6

    Tom again an awsome video. always amazed by the knowledge you hold and the way you go into technical depth but also keeping it simple for everyone to understand. Thankyou captain T Scott for sharing you're knowledge with the world about battleship texas.👍

  • @coltinyancey6420
    @coltinyancey6420 2 года назад +9

    What really amazes me is just how similar the chamber pressure and muzzle velocity are to rifle calibers. Difference being a huge difference in mass ejected and weight of propellent expended. Velocity might kill but apparently mass obliterates.

    • @ironcito1101
      @ironcito1101 2 года назад +2

      Both, which translate to kinetic energy. If you shoot a pea at 1% the speed of light, it will cause a lot more destruction than these shells.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 Год назад +1

      @@ironcito1101 One of the ways that a hypothetical alien species might destroy the Earth would be to hit it with a 100 kg or so mass that they have accelerated to 99% the speed of light. This can be done without violating any laws of physics, and the kinetic energy would be like a rifle bullet going through an apple.

    • @philgiglio7922
      @philgiglio7922 Год назад

      Kinetic energy goes up in a linear fashion with mass (2x the mass, 2x the energy.
      It increases by the square of velocity (2x the velocity 4x the energy).

  • @tomayrscotland6890
    @tomayrscotland6890 Год назад +3

    I watched a movie called battleship it was amazing how the actors got into line with the firing mechanics of the big guns. Thank you for your fine description of the firing of the guns on the battle ship TEXAS. Just amazing to watch Sir' Just Amazing.

  • @josephburns9819
    @josephburns9819 Год назад +3

    Excellent presentation. Very informative and clear. Thank you. These guns are badass!

  • @usethenoodle
    @usethenoodle 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice video. Very interesting and informative. Thanks!

  • @joshuapaul349
    @joshuapaul349 4 месяца назад

    I think this was number 1 on the list of things I didnt think I'd learn today.

  • @zetordaft
    @zetordaft 2 года назад +5

    Another superb video Tom, I really enjoy the concise and informative nature of your videos and your delivery style. Bring on the deep dives, the deeper the better! 😁

  • @ifga16
    @ifga16 2 года назад +5

    Very nice presentation. FYI, The photo of USS Missouri firing a full broadside was upon our arrival at Sydney, Australia in 1986 for the celebration of the RAN's 75th anniversary. I'm on the open bridge next to an Aussie journalist as an escort. The blast created quite an impression and could have been one of those brown out moments. R. Lindel PH1(SW) ret.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the photo i.d.! That had to be an incredible sensory experience! Btw, did you know Bob Lian? I believe he was a turret commander on Missouri around that time.

  • @dntlss
    @dntlss Год назад

    I'm one of those people that believes the Internet has done a lot of harm specially the social media part,keeps people indoors instead of being outside like it used to be and just a host of other maladies however RUclips has to be one of the most amazing things ever invented and the concept is painfully simple,get people to upload videos of just about anything and everything, from sewing a button to catching a whale and everything in between, its amazing, thank you much for a great video,always wanted to know how this was done.

  • @MHTfueler
    @MHTfueler 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for another awesome video!

  • @timsmith2525
    @timsmith2525 Год назад

    Fascinating! So many pieces that have to work in concert!

  • @davidburch4165
    @davidburch4165 Год назад +5

    My gosh, how many times did I spend a day as a kid, playing on the decks and running up and down the ladders of USS Texas! BB-35, right? Thanks so much for this informative video! I just read Hornfischer's "Neptune's Inferno", so your video makes clear the process that turret crews used in those awful engagements.

  • @yvc9
    @yvc9 Год назад

    So many small questions answered in one clip. Thank you!❤️

  • @heinzfissimatent4294
    @heinzfissimatent4294 Год назад

    In 1999 I visited the battleship. Afterwards I was on the USS Lexington. Both really impressive ships.

  • @feelingzhakkaas
    @feelingzhakkaas Год назад +1

    ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL INFORMATIVE VIDEO. GOD BLESS YOU SIR.

  • @bgdavenport
    @bgdavenport Год назад

    excellent series! I saw her in her berth just before she went into drydock. That means another trip to TX to see her innards!

  • @jeffreyhicks4651
    @jeffreyhicks4651 Год назад +1

    Wow that is incredible and explained very well thank you

  • @markjulius2006
    @markjulius2006 Год назад +1

    Great video. A lot more going on than I could imagine. Thanks for sharing your video.

  • @therealbarnekkid
    @therealbarnekkid 4 месяца назад

    That was very interesting, as are many of your videos.

  • @theonlyegg
    @theonlyegg Год назад

    80 year old technology still absolutely blows my mind.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад

      Prepare to be really blown away. The majority of it is 110 year old technology!

  • @drew4213
    @drew4213 2 года назад +81

    This video is fantastic!
    I really loved the diagrams they made the whole process very easy to follow, keep up the great work.

  • @huggleskuishy
    @huggleskuishy 2 года назад +2

    This video is awesome! Did I need to know this information? Absolutely not. Did I enjoy every educational second of it? Absolutely.

  • @jameshowland7393
    @jameshowland7393 7 месяцев назад

    Great presentation!

  • @MrTexasDan
    @MrTexasDan 2 года назад +2

    Great video Tom, thanks!

  • @georgedistel1203
    @georgedistel1203 2 года назад

    One thing on this class of ships that wasn't repeated was that the projectiles were brought up and were even stored nose down during loading. I really like the old girl hopefully they get her where she's not in danger if sinking sometime soon. Thanks for the video I live this stuff even at 65 years old it makes me feel like I'm 15 years old again!

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      The ship is currently scheduled to be towed to dry dock for hull repairs in late June or early July. The ship has been well prepared, the tow carefully planned and run through simulations, and it will be less than 50 miles in protected water.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 2 года назад

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 Good Luck! hopefully everything works out.

    • @georgedistel1203
      @georgedistel1203 2 года назад

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 I thought they were bringing the drydock to her at least thats what was being said in March or April

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад

      @@georgedistel1203 Bringing the dry dock to where the ship is currently located was never considered for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that tied to the state provided funding for repairs was that the ship could not stay in her present location. In any case, Galveston is a short and safe tow from where she is now, and it has all of the required logistical support and infrastructure already in place.

  • @humphrey4976
    @humphrey4976 Год назад

    Phew I am glad I found this. I was really struggling to fire my main guns. I am off to harass shipping in the Atlantic.

  • @geoffreydowen5793
    @geoffreydowen5793 Год назад

    I'm a Brit ex navy veteran and really enjoyed the post well done yours aye!

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад +1

      Thank you, that means a lot to me! You may already be aware of this, but Battleship Texas has very strong ties to Great Britain. She was not only attached to the British Grand Fleet during the last year of World War I, she took part in neutrality patrols, was a convoy escort to Britain, and spent time in British Shipyards and preparing for D-Day there.

  • @9HighFlyer9
    @9HighFlyer9 Год назад

    Thanks, this answered a lot of questions I didn't know I had.

  • @TheHatedRuthlessTruth
    @TheHatedRuthlessTruth Год назад +1

    Awesome video!!! Thank You!

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_20 Год назад +1

    It's a top view! Yeah!

  • @williesnyder2899
    @williesnyder2899 Год назад

    Wonderful explanation!!

  • @joseaponte1037
    @joseaponte1037 7 месяцев назад

    Absolutely gorgeous

  • @peterroe8800
    @peterroe8800 Год назад

    Wonderful description ,thanks !

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin Год назад

    I had no idea that just firing one of these was so complicated!

  • @edwardpedley8813
    @edwardpedley8813 Год назад

    In these days of computer aided design which allows quick work of most any type of mechanical problems or components it's easy to forget that there were a lot of very smart people who knew how to get the job done with slide rules and good old fashioned know how.

  • @falksyberg5624
    @falksyberg5624 Год назад

    That is a great video. I needed some moments but I think that the spin arrow caused by the rifling is pointing in the wrong direction. But nothing which impacts the outstanding educational quality.

  • @Eugene2ndW
    @Eugene2ndW 2 года назад +1

    Great Video, Thanks,
    Also, the calculations and materials dealing with absorbing and controlling the massive recoil.
    The test was the durability of the system after thousands of firings with no major failures or causalities.

  • @chrishayes5790
    @chrishayes5790 Год назад

    Xellent vid. I shall tell everyone at the pub. Cud watch this stuff allday

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад

      Thanks! While I described what goes into firing a shot on the 14" guns, I didn't talk about how the turrets and guns were crewed. Go to the following video to see that. ruclips.net/video/PC9g9WkDS-4/видео.html

  • @patchmack4469
    @patchmack4469 Год назад

    indeed naval guns were a marvel of technology even for a hundred years ago, pretty advanced for their time in history, the designers were definitely way too clever, i hope they benefited
    unlike some i can think of, Mr Dunlop who after a lifetime of redesigning the formula for rubber, having invested so much time and other peoples money died penniless, and yet into the future, Dunlop becomes a big name
    apparently, my grandfather left a design on the back of an office door for divers to be able escape a submersible and swim away, known today as the Davis and Tate escape capsule, pinched by Mr Davis and Mr Tate, thanks
    (i have absolutely no idea if any of that is true, just one of those family myths that one tells)

  • @Leswayne777
    @Leswayne777 Год назад

    What a mean looking magnificent ship

  • @johnjames1374
    @johnjames1374 2 года назад

    It's very helpful that the round constantly shrinks to fit whatever the narrator is telling us.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      If that's a compliment, thanks. If not, the round never shrinks in relationship to the barrel. However, there are frequent changes to overall scale in order to zoom in for details or out for full size looks.

  • @lbowsk
    @lbowsk Год назад

    VERY COOL. THanks for posting.

  • @drats1279
    @drats1279 Год назад

    Very concise and interesting. thank you

  • @grahamhodge8313
    @grahamhodge8313 Год назад

    Excellent explanation. Thanks.

  • @nemo6900
    @nemo6900 Год назад +1

    it always amazes me the engineering required as well as the forging to keep that barrel from detonating from one shot let alone years of such abuses makes me wonder if there is more work gone into the design of a single turret on that ship then It took for the whole ship

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад +2

      I discussed propellant in another video in which I describe how maximum chamber pressure during firing is 36,000 pounds per square inch, well within the strength parameters of the barrel. The reason is that propellant does not truly detonate, but burns extremely quickly. The individual pellets of propellant were designed in such a way to burn progressively faster so that they start fairly slowly and then speed up as the bore's volume increases as the shell moves through the barrel. This makes it build pressure in a controlled fashion without over pressuring. The guns and turret were the result of years of evolution from previous designs, much like the engines, boilers and even the ship's hull and structure.

    • @nemo6900
      @nemo6900 Год назад +1

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 thank you for the clarification I had assumed it all went off at once but gradual would make it far easier for containment.....👍

  • @edpickering8075
    @edpickering8075 Год назад

    WOW.. .I was on the Iowa, but did not know this..

  • @garvinhooper
    @garvinhooper Год назад

    a good friend of mine was in the 2nd Ranger Bn and his landing craft was sunk going in on D-Day he was picked up and put aboard the battleship Texas, just one of the two that survived the sinking of their landing craft

  • @marthakrumboltz2710
    @marthakrumboltz2710 Год назад

    As you said, these guys were really smart. They engineered all of this with slide rules, something that I’ll bet not 200 people world wide could do today. Most people couldn’t or wouldn’t leave their home without a computer screen @ the ready. Help me, what do I do! My phone wont work.

  • @altaccount4697
    @altaccount4697 Год назад

    For reference, a 16 inch gun at 32,000 PSI produces a force on the shell of about 3,217 tons.

  • @elultimo102
    @elultimo102 Год назад +1

    This video explains the extra puff of white smoke from the guns after firing, as the remaining gases are ignited in the barrel. (BTW, the Iowa has a mechanical fire control computer that is so accurate, that it was not replaced with an electronics).

  • @jds6206
    @jds6206 Год назад

    Very interesting. Thank You.

  • @oufdii7559
    @oufdii7559 Год назад

    Magnifique travail et partage. Merciiiiii❤

  • @deplorablecovfefe9489
    @deplorablecovfefe9489 Год назад +1

    I might suggest the drawing is a "Top View".

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад +1

      Thanks, the drawing was intentionally misdrawn in order to more clearly show the action of the breech plug and rammer.

  • @halo3zocker
    @halo3zocker 2 года назад

    Love it! Can't wait for the more in detail Videos ^^

  • @c.a.mcdivitt9722
    @c.a.mcdivitt9722 2 года назад +11

    It's a real shame that those guns are too loud to safely fire. It would be awesome to get a crew together every year or so and try firing a few blank rounds.

    • @rolandfischer931
      @rolandfischer931 Год назад

      Fuck that I want to see em hit some target 🤣

    • @philgiglio7922
      @philgiglio7922 Год назад +1

      The USS KIDD used to fire a noon charge from the 51 mount.
      It was discontinued due to the expense of the 40 odd pounds of smokeless powder for each salute

  • @sup5356
    @sup5356 Год назад

    outstanding explanation

  • @justtim7334
    @justtim7334 Год назад

    Excellent.

  • @ewetho
    @ewetho 2 года назад +2

    One I would love to see a tour of the forward wand rear tripod mast… to see what is up there……….

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +3

      Unfortunately, there is nothing worthwhile to see in either. Not only were both completely stripped of their equipment by the Navy when the ship was decommissioned, they are no longer period correct inside. Both were in need of major structural repairs when the ship went to dry dock in 1988. Lack of adequate funding forced them to use materials and methods that were not part of the original construction. So, there isn't much to learn by visiting them. The good news is they were careful to make sure that outer appearances were correct.

  • @shotokan1216
    @shotokan1216 2 года назад

    Great video as always, Sir!

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier7421 Год назад

    I didn't know the residual gas in the barrel was explosive but it makes perfect sense. You want the explosive mixture to be fuel rich, to prevent oxidization of the barrel by high-temperature oxygen that would remain if the mixture was lean. Everything with a combustion cycle, from car engines to rocket engines, is run rich for this same reason.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад

      I believe the shortage of oxygen is simply the nature of the chemistry and not by design. While I am not a chemist, it seems unlikely to me that oxidation is a fairly minor consideration, especially considering that the Mk 12 barrels installed in 1944 had chrome lined bores By far, the major cause of erosion is microscopic cracks and flaking of the bore surfaces caused by extreme temperature "pulses" of at least 2,000 degrees.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 Год назад

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 The ratio of fuel to oxidizer in the propellant is completely up to whoever manufactures it. Going with a fuel rich mixture wouldn't protect the barrel from all sources of wear for the reasons you mention, but it would solve the issue of high pressure, high temperature oxygen remaining in the barrel and going right to work on the metal.

  • @tommymaddox6785
    @tommymaddox6785 Год назад

    Thanks for posting this, I was wondering how to get mine working

  • @eviltricster8090
    @eviltricster8090 Год назад +1

    Seeing the design up close and how it's made in sections make me wonder what kind of tolerance the measurements on the parts were. I can only imagine it'd be very small as any small imperfections would likely result in a failure

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  Год назад

      You are correct. Even major parts may be machined as closely as .002-.003". More than that could not only cause failures, but could result in what was called lost motion. That is looseness that creates unwanted movements that can ruin accuracy. That could happen in a number of places in the gun and sighting assemblies.

  • @MrTONESHOP
    @MrTONESHOP Год назад

    I miss the tiny lead foil bag for reducing copper covering inside the barrel. On IOWA class ship it was placed by the gun captain during the loading process between 1st and 2nd powder bag.

  • @ned900
    @ned900 2 года назад

    Love it! keep em coming, great presentation.

  • @deputy1968
    @deputy1968 Год назад

    Cool video. Thank you!

  • @nomore9203
    @nomore9203 2 года назад +1

    Great video ☺️

  • @ebenezerwoodworking3616
    @ebenezerwoodworking3616 Год назад

    Interesting video and well done. 1500 lb shell at rifle velocity!

  • @greggweber9967
    @greggweber9967 Год назад +1

    I've always wondered about what looks like a pushing chain that IMHO has to bend and probably hang down out of the way and yet push straight.

    • @kpadmirer
      @kpadmirer 8 месяцев назад

      Yes, the chain only bends one way.

  • @robertlian2009
    @robertlian2009 2 года назад +2

    Great job as always Tom. Very accurate and you are correct no real difference in the Iowa’s loading and design. The biggest change was the adding of circuit 1R the ready fire circuit which was a series of switches which prevented loading out of sequence. For example the gun captain had to hit a bore clear switch before the rammer could ram the projectile. And I never knew the names of the two ramps the shell moved through to get to the rifling. So I learned something new. Also our gas check pads were neoprene rubber (impregnated with asbestos I believe). I didn’t think Texas used the old mutton tallow pads in WW2, did it?
    Thanks!

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      Hi Bob! You saying that you learned something made my day! I would certainly prefer the safety of the 1R circuit; however, I would feel pretty safe in one of Texas' turrets. With the exception of the two powder men in the gun pit, the entire gun crew worked within literal spitting distance of one another, so there was no lack of communication. Ramming the shell into a "hot" chamber is no big deal, but powder is obviously a different beast. One absolute step in the 14", two-gun turret loading procedure said that the flash tight door between the side pocket and gun pit would not be opened and powder bags not pushed through until "bore clear" was called. Since that was done by one of the pit powder men who were less than 6 feet from and in full view of the gun captain, it effectively the same as a 1R circuit.
      I saw the check pad composition in an ordnance manual from the late 1920's. I have at least one newer one, so I'll check to see if there were any changes.

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 2 года назад

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 how was “bore clear” determined? I assume it would be by visual check to see the sky through the barrel, however, how would it be done at night if that was the method?

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      @@jamesbeaman6337 I don't recall seeing anything in gunnery manuals that address the issue of visibility in the bore. My experience with looking down bores is that even a small amount of light, direct or reflected, provides decent visibility. There are two things that can be done to assure a safe bore if visibility is poor. The first is to simply ram a shell. It tightly fits against the barrels compression slope to seal the powder chamber from any remaining residue farther up the bore, isolating any hazard from the powder chamber. The other measure is to spray the chamber with water using a flexible metal water hose mounted on the overhead behind the breech. This will immediately extinguish any hot fragments and make it safe. Since the gunnery manuals specify that charges only be loaded if it is known that they will be immediately used, they aren't exposed to water long enough to have any affect upon their performance. In fact, I have read that this was part of the standard loading procedure for the British. So, if the gun captain has any doubt about the condition of the bore and powder chamber, he simply has a shell rammed, then hoses down the powder chamber. He can then safely call bore clear.

  • @Bogie3855
    @Bogie3855 Год назад

    I was curious about this function and was going to do a search when I saw this. Always wondered how those big bags of powder got ignited. Thanks

  • @MrJeremyWeeks
    @MrJeremyWeeks Год назад

    Fascinating, thanks!

  • @k4000
    @k4000 Год назад

    Great video

  • @bpp325
    @bpp325 Год назад

    Was always curious what the puff of smoke was after the gun was fired and the barrel was lowered. Now I know. Thanx.👍👍

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 Год назад

    Terrific.

  • @323guiltyspark
    @323guiltyspark Год назад +1

    I hate to think how many accidents had to happen to come up with all of the safety measures for these guns.

  • @billdunlop8683
    @billdunlop8683 Год назад

    And here I thought they just went boom and havoc on the receiving end ensued.

  • @brianpeterson5559
    @brianpeterson5559 Год назад

    Fascinating, but I gotta say I'd rather see it just fire a few rounds... thanks for a thorough edit on the workings

  • @peterdavidowicz4374
    @peterdavidowicz4374 Год назад

    Bang bang 🤯 🤯

  • @PiscatorLager
    @PiscatorLager Год назад +1

    And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all?

  • @06colkurtz
    @06colkurtz 2 года назад

    Welcome back

  • @krzysztofwaleska
    @krzysztofwaleska 2 года назад +1

    Arrow around projectile should point in the opposite direction. Should match rifling.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +1

      I saw that immediately after creating the graphic, but decided to use it anyway just to see if anyone caught it. You win!!!

  • @sullythemic
    @sullythemic Год назад

    Wish they’d do this sorta vid for a torpedo launch

  • @picardbs
    @picardbs Год назад

    good job

  • @Realist968
    @Realist968 Год назад

    great stuff

  • @thurin84
    @thurin84 2 года назад +1

    very cool and informative. so what kind of problem could result in excessive slope wear in the breach? id imagine a shell weighing as much as a car sliding over it causes a good bit of wear.
    and in had no idea the barrels were formed from so many payers.

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364  2 года назад +2

      I have not seen or heard that it was a problem. However, even if there was significant wear, the only problem would be that ramming effort may increase some. The primary source of wear was from firing. The extreme pressures and temperatures created microfractures in the surface of the bore and powder chamber. This wasn't dangerous, but it did lead to bore erosion that affected firing accuracy and periodic replacement of the barrels. The last barrels installed on Texas were rated for 250 shots of what were called effective service rounds, which was armor piercing rounds fired using a full 420 lb. charge that created the most wear. However, a large percentage of rounds fired were high capacity shells and reduced charges. That increased barrel life by several hundred shots. Lastly, whatever wear may occur on the slopes would be resolved when the barrels were replaced since the new liners installed in them included new slopes.

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 2 года назад

      @@tomscotttheolderone364 ok. thanks! great info!

  • @johanvongericke1433
    @johanvongericke1433 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @Jamestfarrell
    @Jamestfarrell Год назад

    The 8" guns on the USS Saint Paul (CA73) were also 'bag guns'.

    • @tcoradeschi
      @tcoradeschi 3 месяца назад

      As is 155mm artillery today.