The 'WhiteCat Keyboard' is Too Good | HyperX Alloy Origins Review

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @kal3l332
    @kal3l332 3 года назад +826

    Next:I bought 'Vaxei's pants'

    • @obtuse2927
      @obtuse2927 3 года назад +76

      “vaxei’s books”

    • @agaraperin2262
      @agaraperin2262 3 года назад +28

      Vaxei gamer bath water?!?!

    • @damienrudy3823
      @damienrudy3823 3 года назад +34

      "Cookiezi plushies are op"

    • @shaviorharuki
      @shaviorharuki 3 года назад +8

      WhiteCat's Life support

    • @tdr1918
      @tdr1918 3 года назад +10

      Next: I bought "Hugo's Bathroom"

  • @fenrir9452
    @fenrir9452 3 года назад +444

    "Just as tilted as I am while playing the game"

    • @Owen2131_
      @Owen2131_ 3 года назад

      Fenrir your name, it reminds me of the blade arcus character fenrir

  • @grumpo_
    @grumpo_ 3 года назад +367

    Full size RyuK keyboard POGGERS

    • @certay3370
      @certay3370 3 года назад +10

      mrekk too

    • @obtuse2927
      @obtuse2927 3 года назад

      ok grumpo

    • @PluginArtz
      @PluginArtz 3 года назад +2

      @@certay3370 i think mr ekk uses the same kb as whitecatman

    • @mikko5384
      @mikko5384 3 года назад

      bungers

    • @certay3370
      @certay3370 3 года назад +1

      @@PluginArtz kind of. mrekk has the TKL whitecat has full size

  • @injections
    @injections 3 года назад +91

    that 100 at the end broke my soul

  • @paty4042
    @paty4042 3 года назад +97

    just a note: he didnt get this keyboard until just a few months ago. Most of his insane scores were set on his old coolermaster keyboard.

    • @freddiebensonstan7037
      @freddiebensonstan7037 3 года назад +3

      Yes, we know. The quick fire tk doesn't have rgb, and I think everyone knows that because it used to be THE osu keyboard.

    • @seduct1ve171
      @seduct1ve171 3 года назад +11

      @Jay yep, but that isnt rgb, rgb have over 16m colors

  • @Jaymusta
    @Jaymusta 3 года назад +22

    For those who are wondering since it isn't using the usual cherryMX variant, the hyperx red switches do have a slightly shorter actuation point and travel distance.
    cherry reds actuate at 2mm out of the total 4mm of travel distance
    hyperx reds actuate at 1.8mm out of the total 3.8mm of travel distance
    both have 45g of actuation force
    So it seems that the hyperx red switch is pretty much in between a cherry red and cherry silver switch. But since the actual difference is so small, you might not really notice too much of a difference other than having an easier time tapping higher bpm bursts and maybe even streams. If you try to switch back to cherry/gateron reds or blacks though, you might suddenly feel like you're tapping is slower than usual for a while.
    Just something to keep in mind if you're planning to experiment with other types of mechanical switches for osu!

    • @choke-
      @choke- 3 года назад +1

      Just gonna say that (atleast for me) the slightly shorter travel distance is very noticeable while playing osu. It takes some getting used to going from shorter travel distance to longer travel distance.

  • @Jack-pv3iw
    @Jack-pv3iw 3 года назад +66

    his jokes are on point today xD

  • @Yveci
    @Yveci 3 года назад +192

    He forgot the most MOST important tool of all time. *Be left handed*

    • @cosmos7394
      @cosmos7394 3 года назад +8

      I just had this keyboard Odets for Christmas a week ago and I’m left handed, lets see how it goes Xd

    • @gervee_desu
      @gervee_desu 3 года назад +3

      thank god im left handed

    • @syphonxd7753
      @syphonxd7753 3 года назад +6

      @@cosmos7394 ok u will be a fkin god then

    • @anonion6821
      @anonion6821 3 года назад +9

      @@cosmos7394 see u on the leaderboards

    • @hvrst6241
      @hvrst6241 3 года назад +3

      @@cosmos7394 how's it going

  • @sirin48
    @sirin48 3 года назад +159

    FGSky keyboard review when?

    • @GUROTEK
      @GUROTEK 3 года назад +14

      Haha pillow and laptop go brrrrtt hahahahha

    • @spki8656
      @spki8656 3 года назад +5

      @@GUROTEK he uses brown switches and a steelseries mousepad now 😔

    • @GUROTEK
      @GUROTEK 3 года назад

      @@spki8656 who told u dat

    • @spki8656
      @spki8656 3 года назад +3

      @@GUROTEK i saw it on a top mouse players list

    • @hvrst6241
      @hvrst6241 2 года назад +1

      now he got viper mini, oh no

  • @itsmekirb
    @itsmekirb 3 года назад +11

    I love the "Getting Over It" music in the background tho

  • @Fang727
    @Fang727 3 года назад +5

    That almost SS play in the background was so satisfying
    Thanks.

  • @xf2u
    @xf2u 3 года назад +8

    Bought this keyboard back in september, specifically the Alloy Origins TKL with reds. Its one of the best keyboards ive ever had it fits perfectly with my desk space .Im glad i switched to it, my old one was Razer Blackwidow ultimate from 2016 with Greens

    • @louis3318
      @louis3318 2 года назад

      BRO I BOUGHT IT WITH BLUES A YEAR AGO, BIGGEST REGRET IN MY LIFEEE

    • @xf2u
      @xf2u 2 года назад

      @@louis3318 blues aren't bad honestly, it's just that they are very loud

    • @coldpyro21
      @coldpyro21 2 года назад

      Oh wow I also have a razer blackwidow from 2016 with greens and I'm planning to switch maybe this is a sign

    • @xf2u
      @xf2u 2 года назад

      @@coldpyro21 gayzmcgee(aricin) also had the same keyboard so yes maybe it is a sign

  • @bruhmoment2262
    @bruhmoment2262 3 года назад +8

    2:54
    badeu: did someone say c-type?

  • @pn7426
    @pn7426 3 года назад +6

    I actually have this keyboard way before I knew whitecat and it really was an amazing keyboard..... Kinda hate how dust get in more often

  • @yomurita
    @yomurita 2 года назад +1

    Those switches are so incredibly smooth for some reason. A friend of mines has them, and they feel as smooth as my lubed gat yellows or my jelly blacks :P

  • @mieruleyman
    @mieruleyman 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for this review! I was considering the Core (TKL) one since it has a lot of positive reviews and I have little to no space on my table. Gonna be a great switch from my old keyboard!

    • @aimdrip1074
      @aimdrip1074 3 года назад

      Do you have it now?

    • @mieruleyman
      @mieruleyman 3 года назад

      @@aimdrip1074 not yet, probably next year since I'm busy atm and there might be New Year Sale happening.

    • @biridibor9548
      @biridibor9548 2 года назад

      @@mieruleyman do you have it now,how it go man i want to buy it with my eid money

  • @mack_osu
    @mack_osu 3 года назад +3

    Spazza: WhiteCat keyboard
    mrekk who got it way ago: *sad noises*

  • @jukedem
    @jukedem 3 года назад +6

    Next: I bought flying tunas gaming chair

  • @christopherayala3165
    @christopherayala3165 3 года назад +4

    Didn’t even know I bought the “white cat keyboard”

  • @xycrol
    @xycrol 3 года назад +1

    I like how the full size keyboard on the front of the box cuts out unlike when you buy the TKL

  • @aimdrip1074
    @aimdrip1074 3 года назад +1

    These switches feel so fucking good

  • @0p41
    @0p41 3 года назад +17

    This guy is gonna be broke if he continues this series 😂

  • @Scopiiii
    @Scopiiii 3 года назад +2

    I just want to mention that this is not whitecats keyboard. Whitecat has the european version which has normal cherry mx reds you on the other hand have the real "cheater" kb which also is used by Merami and Ryuk with hyperx reds which are the reason Ryuk says this keyboard is cheat. So technically your version has "better" reds and idk if other people feel the difference but for me who used like 30 different switch types would say hyperx reds are truely the best if you want to use reds

  • @SpookyPSX
    @SpookyPSX Год назад +1

    hi whats the diffrence between the hyper x alloy origins core and the hyper x alloy origins they both have same switch the red one

  • @CharlesHydronium
    @CharlesHydronium 3 года назад +1

    Alternative title:
    Spazza17 going *GODMODE* on *THE WHITECAT KEYBOARD* HyperX Alloy Origins Keyboard Review

  • @soresoresore
    @soresoresore Год назад

    this is such a great review i end up watching this video every few months

  • @p01ygon
    @p01ygon 3 года назад +1

    keyboard is really a preference thing. Don’t understand why some people think that because whitecat uses it, it’s the perfect keyboard for osu.

    • @datalix3849
      @datalix3849 Год назад +1

      Ok umm... I got the keyboard just a few days ago... IT IS INSANE FOR OSU! dude that keyboard is the cheater keyboard bruh. I used to play with a Razer Blackwidow Overwatch edition

  • @brian1522
    @brian1522 3 года назад +3

    > charge your phone with the cable
    me with an iphone

  • @karlino3338
    @karlino3338 3 года назад +7

    I wanted aqua seitches and in store they only had red so i bought it. One day after aqua switches came in store😭😭😭

    • @hacky4927
      @hacky4927 3 года назад

      I ordered the tkl version with aqua switches, would you say the aqua switches are just as good as reds or is it preference as some say

    • @FreddyZeNerd
      @FreddyZeNerd 3 года назад

      @@hacky4927 preference

    • @devaxionrl8189
      @devaxionrl8189 3 года назад

      @@hacky4927 more streaming stamina and possibly speed is for reds but more tactile feedback to know hit exactly when your tablet or mouse cursor hits the circle is for aquas.

    • @user-wt7nu8ge8v
      @user-wt7nu8ge8v 3 года назад +1

      red switches are better, lol

  • @user-ww6zn2yk8w
    @user-ww6zn2yk8w 3 года назад +1

    Like a key from other top players can be really interesting beastroll key or maybe flying tuna

  • @impuls--
    @impuls-- 3 года назад +1

    2:35 yeah i dont care about rgb lightning as much as rgb lighting

  • @oggyoctimus4682
    @oggyoctimus4682 3 года назад +9

    cookiezi's keyboard next?

    • @HellishPumpkin
      @HellishPumpkin 3 года назад +1

      Can’t get it now sadly :c
      Krazyboard is no longer unobtainable

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 года назад

      @@HellishPumpkin no loss.

  • @cosmoz6038
    @cosmoz6038 3 года назад

    Good, nice video man. It would be a fun series to watch tbh :)

  • @forezutaarchive
    @forezutaarchive 3 года назад +4

    Why did i literally think the thumbnail was whitecat

  • @freddiebensonstan7037
    @freddiebensonstan7037 3 года назад +2

    The full-size version goes on sale for every little minor holiday for only $79.99 while they keep the tkl at 89.99. However, best buy just ended a sale with the tkl version being only $69.99, so maybe they will start putting that on sale too.

    • @_Av0
      @_Av0 3 года назад +1

      I got mine for 60 euros (it was on sale)

    • @DixeyDo
      @DixeyDo 3 года назад

      It is 130$ here in UAE
      F

  • @mif4731
    @mif4731 3 года назад +2

    I have HyperX alloy fps, for 3 years, its great, only that my brother spilled soda on it and CapsLock does'nt work anymore, + after that some lights don't work as they should be. I have Cherry red switches, and i had opportunity to try the same keyboard with brown switches, i did'nt like those very much, so reds are best imo.

    • @crypto2633
      @crypto2633 3 года назад

      Do u think this one is better than the fps?

  • @daydreamsfr
    @daydreamsfr 3 года назад

    i use a keyboard with Laser switches and i gotta say, get yourself a keyboard with laser switches. It makes the gameplay so much smoother than with normal linear or tactile switches. Only downside is that you cant switch the switches with any Pin-switch. So if you want different switches you gotta get yourself new laser ones. btw browns suck at everything and feel awful pls dont get browns

  • @IzzyIsntReal
    @IzzyIsntReal 3 года назад

    2020 BEJOY GM212 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard. Probably one of the cheapest keyboards you can buy brand new that has Cherry MX Reds.

  • @kurokun07
    @kurokun07 3 года назад +1

    spazza tech tips back at it again

  • @Zurasy
    @Zurasy 3 года назад +1

    Nice classic white cat thumbnail there

  • @YukariMizura
    @YukariMizura 3 года назад +1

    spazza: "twitch.tv/spazza17"
    me: "27"

  • @Owen2131_
    @Owen2131_ 3 года назад

    2:54 but I use apple tho...
    Edit: 4:21 True, I am a multi rhythm game player not just osu! so Since I do have a linear KB (yellow switches) it helps out a lot

  • @chuggington4791
    @chuggington4791 3 года назад

    Spazza watch out there is a stickman trying to steal your curtains

  • @Zerogwastaken
    @Zerogwastaken 3 года назад +1

    Spazza looks like Seth Everman but with hair 😳

  • @Bryb3
    @Bryb3 3 года назад

    i bought the keyboard, and i didnt knew about whitecat a month later i watched one of his plays

  • @a1mer06
    @a1mer06 3 года назад

    Finally joined the hyperx gang lets fucking go

  • @Benny-fm5ec
    @Benny-fm5ec 3 года назад

    He's talking about making mistakes whilst typing whilst going with 5 fingers overall (4 on his left hand and 1 on his right)

  • @rubysamurai306
    @rubysamurai306 3 года назад

    i had the hyperx alloy fps rgb, with the kailh silver speed, best keyboard ever owned

  • @nahh2114
    @nahh2114 3 года назад +1

    01:53 The Plastic is very nice and transparent

  • @LookAtTheSkyee
    @LookAtTheSkyee 3 года назад

    I am very interested in this( tkl ver). Definitely buying the pudding keycaps

  • @AdrianMaster
    @AdrianMaster 3 года назад

    sadly it's sold out in my country, really wanted this keyboard for Christmas

  • @anxietyxi
    @anxietyxi 3 года назад +1

    brown switches have the same weight as reds just so you know

  • @a1graa
    @a1graa 3 года назад +2

    my guy look like seth everman if he's not bald

  • @TimeerasedGames
    @TimeerasedGames 3 года назад

    Funny review, hyped to receive this keyboard to replace an old logitech which feels quite uncomfortable nowadays (and has ghost inputs sometimes)

    • @theinfinity4037
      @theinfinity4037 2 года назад

      How is it bro

    • @TimeerasedGames
      @TimeerasedGames 2 года назад

      @@theinfinity4037 its great, only issue I have is some keys (like Esc) can come out pretty fast if you type too "violently" (happened a few times, like a ragequit in a game :p).
      Would recommend it to anyone who likes twitchy keyboards, with minimal resistance (its great cause it feels good but could be annoyin if you're trigger happy cause triggerin a key while restin on it is very easy too).

    • @TimeerasedGames
      @TimeerasedGames 2 года назад

      @Crunchy7 let me take another year for that one since you're so polite.

  • @sonnistia
    @sonnistia 3 года назад +1

    As long as companies start to use their own custom made switches and not just slapping on cherry mx switches, all keyboards are gonna be great, look at Razer's Optical Switches and Steelseries' Omnipoint. And now Hyperx. (let's not talk about romer g tho lmao)

    • @BlackCat88899
      @BlackCat88899 3 года назад

      Razer switches are dogshit tho

    • @devaxionrl8189
      @devaxionrl8189 3 года назад

      @@BlackCat88899 yellows are really good

  • @DogeGaming26
    @DogeGaming26 3 года назад +4

    Logitech G610? Seems like a keyboard that would work well in almost every way, but I don't see people talk about it much, especially in the osu! community.

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 года назад +1

      it's a keyboard.... so duh it'll work.
      y'all really buy things cause x player uses it? WeirdChamp if you ask me.

    • @aimdrip1074
      @aimdrip1074 3 года назад

      Logitech keyboards are fucking shit to play osu with

  • @lucidience8495
    @lucidience8495 3 года назад

    This is where we get him to review a keycult

  • @Rykusu
    @Rykusu 3 года назад +1

    4:33 I almost died from laughter when the said "I would recommend brown switches"

    • @Dom-ec7lg
      @Dom-ec7lg 3 года назад +1

      you know brown switches are actually good, right?

    • @Rykusu
      @Rykusu 3 года назад

      @@Dom-ec7lg at the time i was thinking he ment cherry mx browns

    • @kevingoodman1245
      @kevingoodman1245 3 года назад

      @@Rykusu bet u watched glarses and take his preference as yours, while havent even tried it

  • @mihaiverbina7026
    @mihaiverbina7026 3 года назад

    i love the YperX keyboard man good job

  • @thomasbrett3364
    @thomasbrett3364 3 года назад +2

    Was wondering if you had considered the Apex Pro, it's a bit more expensive but it has interesting features such as the adjustable activation height.
    I think it would be quite interesting.

  • @joshlee1305
    @joshlee1305 3 года назад

    Switch from black to red switches, best keyboard ever

  • @__________________________-_
    @__________________________-_ 3 года назад

    I have the Hyperx alloy elite RGB with the red switches and it's also very good for osu!👌🏻

  • @noisserc
    @noisserc 3 года назад +3

    You should review the Merami keyboard, it seems like a pretty durable board.

    • @mataeus.
      @mataeus. 3 года назад

      He switched to this one

  • @NathanCloutier
    @NathanCloutier 2 года назад

    love the colors, gonna be nice switching from my razer blackwidow with...lets just say garbage lighting

    • @temp04345
      @temp04345 2 года назад

      Which exact blackwidow is it?

  • @Sebastian-oh5rh
    @Sebastian-oh5rh 3 года назад

    I have this keyboard, will recommend

  • @victor1010_
    @victor1010_ 3 года назад

    I mean you can just go top to bottom with mrekk keyboard next that would be pretty interesting I think

  • @kenneth7239
    @kenneth7239 2 года назад

    just ordered i expect it to be amazing

  • @dorian.u
    @dorian.u 3 года назад +1

    the RATTLE

  • @certay3370
    @certay3370 3 года назад

    OMG YES DO A TOP PLAYER SETUP SERIES

    • @obtuse2927
      @obtuse2927 3 года назад +1

      that’ll be expensive

  • @SuicidalGrind
    @SuicidalGrind 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Spazza, because of you making this video I ratio'd Sotarks :)

  • @misbahul9044
    @misbahul9044 3 года назад

    All flagship keyboard is good
    but my favorite so far for osu either ducky or corsair

  • @Discediteee
    @Discediteee 3 года назад

    You should try the gk61 with gateron optical yellow

  • @mush4
    @mush4 3 года назад

    why does spazza in the thumbnail look like seth everman with beard and hair

  • @DixeyDo
    @DixeyDo 3 года назад +1

    This or Hyperx Alloy Elite 2 for the same price
    I'm confused

  • @fino13sd45
    @fino13sd45 3 года назад

    @Spazza17 do you recommend the pudding keycaps?
    Nvm i found your other vid

  • @aboody8618
    @aboody8618 3 года назад

    Spazza with the fresh cut

  • @RIKUNASTY
    @RIKUNASTY 3 года назад +1

    Anyone know what map Spazza was playing at the end?

  • @zenbusukun
    @zenbusukun 3 года назад

    world's best thumbnail

  • @tjulfarseggsy2482
    @tjulfarseggsy2482 3 года назад

    you could try the : ajazz ak33 60 percent keyboard red switch

  • @ezequielx4712
    @ezequielx4712 3 года назад +1

    the version without the numeric pad, is the core edition, is the same?

  • @icedspade
    @icedspade 3 года назад

    Hey look, the is Thurston Waffles in the thumbnail :D

  • @sushi8559
    @sushi8559 3 года назад

    IM SO PICKY ABOUT THE FONT DAMN

  • @NathanCloutier
    @NathanCloutier 2 года назад

    what are the maps you are playing in the background

  • @bamboozled614
    @bamboozled614 2 года назад

    thank you

  • @Bubu-of7zm
    @Bubu-of7zm 3 года назад +1

    Shit
    It costs 100$+ and my red switch 60% vortex series keyboard is 28$
    But the keyboard quality is decent

  • @mercamia
    @mercamia 3 года назад +3

    idk man, the price is about 7 of my mechanical keyboard and I'm broke af

    • @Nukawa
      @Nukawa 3 года назад

      what mech keyboard did you get for $15, that's so cheap

    • @mercamia
      @mercamia 3 года назад

      @@Nukawa It's a local brand from Indonesia, a TKL keyboard called "Digital Alliance Meca Fighter" it uses outemu switches so it might not be very good but it's absolutely very worthy for its price

    • @Nukawa
      @Nukawa 3 года назад

      @@mercamia i looked it up, that's a great deal! nice find

  • @user-ww6zn2yk8w
    @user-ww6zn2yk8w 3 года назад +13

    Spazza English is like
    R

    • @obtuse2927
      @obtuse2927 3 года назад +2

      shh his accent is my favorite

  • @jackstezsavage3815
    @jackstezsavage3815 3 года назад +2

    Don’t you mean the mrekk keyboard

  • @pluto7275
    @pluto7275 3 года назад

    Maybe Whitecat uses this keyboard, because it has the cable on the right side and Whitecat is left-handed so, this is a lot better for him.

  • @daifukumochidango2855
    @daifukumochidango2855 3 года назад

    ofc WhiteCat gets that keyboard. RGB gives you 60fps and AR10 reading. A whole rainbow on your desk gives you much much more

  • @burrito6715
    @burrito6715 3 года назад +2

    Anyone notice that this man typed at 81 wpm with 2 fingers

    • @Kuri0
      @Kuri0 3 года назад

      typing with two fingers isnt a good thing because its impossible to do beyond 90wpm and its hard or impossible to switch to all fingers speaking from experience

    • @thisisarandomaccount1
      @thisisarandomaccount1 3 года назад

      I type higher with the same keyboard, and two fingers

    • @aiuswfauisfnpwehuo9oawse
      @aiuswfauisfnpwehuo9oawse 3 года назад

      @@Kuri0 i get like 100 average and at times like 120 with 2 fingers

  • @ilariaocchigrossi
    @ilariaocchigrossi 3 года назад

    Fra sono ora una domanda come hai fatto con il video con hugofrost a farlo con 2 player?

  • @headmasterbacon2967
    @headmasterbacon2967 3 года назад +1

    can you review aetrna's/meramis keyboard?

  • @powerplayer75
    @powerplayer75 3 года назад

    You could review the gmmk with a bunch of different switches since its hot swappable

    • @dylanhenderson748
      @dylanhenderson748 3 года назад

      Bad keyboard. Heaps of delay. Inconsistent polling

  • @rips5870
    @rips5870 3 года назад

    Mr. Spazza I got a question, what should I get for my birthday? The Hyperx keyboard or the Anne Pro 2? I'm gonna use red switches. I have never used a mechanical keyboard before so I need your opinion on this

    • @rips5870
      @rips5870 3 года назад

      @@Spazza17 i see, thank you for answering!

    • @devaxionrl8189
      @devaxionrl8189 3 года назад

      @@rips5870 hyperx is way better

    • @rips5870
      @rips5870 3 года назад

      @@devaxionrl8189 how so

  • @moechachino6247
    @moechachino6247 3 года назад

    Shige keyboard review would be good next time

  • @thesoundofemptiness8608
    @thesoundofemptiness8608 2 года назад

    This may be a bit of strange (dumb?) question. But I'm new to this whole keyboard thing, and any sort of help would be greatly appreciated. In my native language (german), there are certain letters that don't exist in the common English alphabet (ä,ö,ü). Normally this isn't an issue, as I can just go with the widely used DE-QWERTZ layout Version, that is generally offered by most big tech companies. Unfortunately, this particular keyboard seems to only be available in the US-Layout. Luckily enough though HyperX does indeed sell matching keycaps, with the german characters that are so crucial to communicating properly for me.
    Now the big question. If I just put on the DE-Keycaps instead of the regular ones, will it be able to output all of the particular, non-english characters, or do I have to do any further modifiying, like reprogramming them (if so, how?), or is, what I'm trying to do futile in the first place?
    Once again sorry, if what I'm asking is very obvious or stupid, but as I already mentioned, I'm new to this, and couldn't find any clear answers through the means of googling. I would be thankful for any sort of advice!

    • @Namisincere
      @Namisincere 2 года назад

      changing keycaps will not change your keyboards character output
      use "eurkey" which is intended for europeans using ansi layout

  • @bumiiilmuna
    @bumiiilmuna 3 года назад

    Almost SS POG

  • @altairibn-laahad9783
    @altairibn-laahad9783 3 года назад

    that keyboard plus those hyperx crystal keycaps and you made yourself high for cheap

  • @Arigatos
    @Arigatos 3 года назад

    The CK550 is pretty good for the price