Dear osu! Players... STOP DOING THIS.
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- LET'S ARGUE: These guys are HOPELESS (and mrekk is the 🐐).
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Stop overthinking is good life advice in general
True....
Yes, but how to stop overthinking
I be overthinking abt overthinking when I play osu
@@Goooooonzas spazza said in the video take a break
@@lukah6779 yes, i did take a break of 3 weeks from any competive games i played and just chill for the 3 weeks and still overthink occasionally but it used to be worse 2 years ago
Legacy is a huge factor in how we see greats. 100% agree with what you said about cookiezi, its a hard one to beat. But Mrekk is still writing his legacy and i cant wait for how hype this anime will be
11:04 "probably gonna receive a lot of hate without a reason" i felt that
mathi felt that
if mrekk comes back 10x better were all dead
People will literally pass away
Hey I know you
@@Dubscr noway
3:14 I think what this person is trying to say is that rapid trigger eliminates the need to develop your tapping technique to high levels by eliminating the consideration for actuation points. You simply need to move your fingers and not worry about messing up a stream or getting notelock because of improper technique that leads to your keys not actuating.
i didnt read your comment but what i understand is : it doesnt give you more raw speed, but you can use the 100% of the raw speed you have
im that person and that's exactly what i meant. i kinda got fucked over by the character limit and couldn't really explain further in the form lol.
@@paithen7033 i still think that most of the stuff he said related to the post (ignoring everything he said about not understanding the forum post) could be still taken as an argument
@@sorriiez i dont think so, most of it was still bcs i didn't get to elaborate in the form. but it doesn't rly matter
@@paithen7033 You have a completely valid point, I thought about this a lot when I hit a wall playing 4k mania maps, I was limited by my speed and was moving my fingers too much (accentuating notes in different patterns) and I improved by focusing on moving to just over the actuation point to reset the key - it actually worked fairly well and I got a bit faster on jumpstreams and dump maps. So yes, I would agree wooting helps in this regard (although I do not own one myself).
6:20 bro thinks hes going to the gym ☠☠💀
😭😭🙏
we makin' it out of 6 digit with this one 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
7:57
I play osu!mania and I swear that after the change of how the game count pp by taking the accuracy as the main aspect, it removes my frustration immediately because of how amazing it is. Not only I don't have to worry about chokes but it also pushing my acc and my finger control drastically.
yeah i agree, i picked up mania as my main game for a few months and i just enjoyed it so much more at the time without a single worry about gaining pp and shit
the thing with nerves and combo scaling is that if combo didn't make as much of an impact, you'd also get nervous if you have a good misscount and accuracy even if you weren't comboing. of course this wouldn't affect previous scores but it would affect future scores
Pretty much related for all the "leaderboard hunters" out there
yeah and acc chokes are a thing too
some timestamps
0:24 - wooting is minimum hardware requirement in 2023
1:41 - (ad) Buy Spazza's Used Stuff
2:25 - rapid trigger -> +min speed limit -> demotivation
3:30 - South Korea military service vs winning OWC
4:30 - why osu tournaments suck
5:18 - youtube unpopular in osu because higher effort than streaming
6:00 - your waifu isn't real
6:17 - a "scientific" osu workout schedule
7:57 - std pp should be only from acc
9:10 - pp farming is bad
10:12 - goated: mrekk or cookiezi
12:26 - ending
hello Spazza, thank you for your inspiring words ( 7:36 ) , I am going to shred right now
Shred my balls
Cookiezi is trully a legend and I legit don't understand why some people hate him (mostly 13yo zoomers who started playing in 2020). Such a special player even if he is not #1 anymore.
Btw I'm kinda interested in your japanese keyboard (BFKB113PBK) for playing taiko but man 65€ for a membrane... and it's just a fraction of the real price oof
I think chocomint is better than that cookie easy guy tho
@@eyrietracer nah shigetora is better imo
@@retrofizz727 nathan on osu clears those frauds
"Keyboards, keycaps, switches, various accessories, even fumos. Everything is basically brand new, or used once"
Sir how do you "use" a fumo 😢
@watsimp1773 I hate it here, someone had to go and say it
the second one is basically saying: with a normal keyboard, you have to pay attention to how specifically you're tapping, what with actuation points and the risk of not fully extending or descending, this limits your options for the techniques you can employ. Wooting on the other hand, let's you use a great deal of other tapping techniques that on a normal keyboard would be terrible, but because of the rapid trigger function now are possible, many of these techniques being much easier to use. Like you said, if you can already tap that fast, you can play that bpm, certainly, but what wooting does is let you skip the part where you need to find a good technique to be consistent with that speed. For example, Roaz uses a technique in which he just barely moves his fingers, almost vibro, which on a normal kb, you would need to master knowing exactly where your actuation point is, and always be able to perfectly go above and below it with every one of your micromovements. That takes a lot of muscle memory to acomplish, you need to put the effort in to make the technique work. On the wooting? if you have the tapping motion down, you can entirely skip the muscle memory building.
Cookiezi's old scores are so stupid, like, Before you couldn't push your skill cap as much and it was harder to improve, but Cookiezi managed to do it, other player who kinda did the same was _index - hr wasn't meta, but he still was top 2!
bro knows ball💯
This!
hey spazza, im the person at around 2:26. I couldn't really explain exactly what i meant because of the character limit. i think if you wanna do another video like this you should increase it.
mega based from Spazza to not become the 17 trillionth person to jump on the cringe combo rework bandwagon, yeah sure heavily nerfing combo's effect on pp will probably make the system a bit more representative of how good a play actually is but it will ruin much of the hype of scores and the impressiveness of consistency.
From someone who can't hold more than 200 combo to save my life.
defiantly agree, way more hype to see someone hold and fc a map in a tournament instead of "oh, he hit less 100s than another person"
I don't even play osu anymore but I was glad to see you pop up in my recommended. Keep up the great vids Spazza.
10:40 blast from the past. The return of cookiezi in 2015 was insanity
kinda funny on the schedule part coz the actual science seems to say that rest days dont have any benefit over just playing and the most "science informed" things you can do to improve faster at osu is sleep better and challenge yourself in novel ways (which is true for anything)
rest days are the best way to get the most improvement with the least time investment coz ur brain will improve ur skill for a couple nights of sleep after the practice but overall if ur goal is to get good as fast as possible its better to just shred and sleep well lol
As a former "osu scientist" i can confirm that it really leads absolutley nowhere, just play and try to get fc's on stuff that's hard for you and you'll just get better lol
On the wooting is a necessity: uh no it's not EZChamp's 1k is on a membrane keyboard
I play maps that are way too hard purely for enjoyment. As a 6-digit who can't FC a single 4.3+ star map I can say trying to beat Duplicity Shade (standard) is too hard to not have fun with.
hello spazza, I came up with a science based schedule for osu improvement and would like to hear what you think: Monday is play day, Tuesday I play more, Wednesday play morer, Thursday play even morer, Friday play most, Saturday and Sunday play moster
About speed and the wooting as an overall rank 1.4k player myself
I do not have the wooting yet, but I tried it out for 2hours. I already have the tapping speed for max 300bpm, I cant do more than that at all. I cannot acc 270 because of finger locks that have made me unable learn to acc it since I am always unsure if I overstreamed, understreamed and such. But wooting did something, I got insane accuracy, I could tap 300 pretty well, even lower bpm like 250 I did fantastic on. BUT I already knew I can tap all of those bpms. My only problem is finger locks, and that enabled me to get more stamina in 270bpm streams and higher, but it didnt help me get MORE speed. You could argue that when I gain more stamina, like me, i gained 270 stamina for 200 note streams where as before I could barely do 50, it translates to gaining "more speed" but no. You still click as fast, just for longer.
There are currently scores on Osu! Lazer that have less acc (-5%+) and combo (-200+) with higher miss counts than scores I've set, and they can't be beaten. Before that was a thing I would never have cared about how much combo is weighed.
Getting ranks are good and fun, farming and seeing your rank get better is fun, and when you can't farm anymore, go back to pushing your skill cap with speed practice maps, improving aim, improving reading and all, it's super fun and then go back to farming and get more ranks and repeat. If you enjoy game like that there is nothing wrong and everyone who says otherwise hate farm maps for the sake of it, or hating on Sotarks or some other mappers.
The issue starts when you lose ranks faster than you can gain them and the osu depression arc starts
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WE love banana fish
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7:36. i have just deleted osu today cuz in my brain all that overthinking stuff was everywhere. i just have to relax from that circle game, it circles my head
11:57 "And that kid's name? Albert Einstein"
the banana fish tee goes hard
0:40 one of the top Chinese players uses a Apple keyboard
also top taiko players use membrane or scissor keyboards and some are even on 60hz.
I'm absolutely a proponent for peripherals not being very important but just saying, apple magic keyboard isn't a nerf, that thing is shockingly usable (which is an unfortunate fact when I'm an apple hater)
Nice oyasumi punpun collection on the shelf B)
I can't believe Spazza is selling his Fumos. What a blasphemy.
Agreed with the Cookiezei statement. Once my friend introduced me to his old plays I was shocked and got inspired.
also goddamn spazza said the words that was never said about cookiezi....... wait....
spazza please make pasta cooking video
I mostly think about me being deja vu when i miss the same circle
I'm a top 1k mania player and I play entirely by instinct, I also use a Razer huntsman pro WITH CLICKY KEYS I have played for 5 years and the only huge jump in performance I had was switching from a membrane keyboard to a mechanical
well it basically better equipment = better chance for improvement and top 1k is pretty crack dude
also how da hell do u get used to clicky switches wut da helllll?
NEW UPLOAD thank god
About the question on 8:00, what if the miss was in the last 10% of the map? Or last 5% of the map, maybe it should count for more pp considering when you missed, since your nerves are low if you miss in the start and fc the rest as you mentioned, but not when you are fc'ing all the way untill you miss in the end.
9:35 I feel personally attacked
Wooting is not a necessity, but it‘s still an easy way to improve if you are already half decent. And in some instances (like tournaments) it can/will make the difference.
Its the same as tablet. The average player would benefit from it, but some players just wont need it.
@@sid6645 I strongly disagree. Mouse or tablet is a preference but for example a good "gaming“ mouse compared to a 1$ mouse stolen from your school is just a big upgrade not for most, but for all players.
Yeah some players won’t need it, but it does not change the fact that they would still play better or reach new skill ceilings.
omg i wish i were in the EU so i could get that sanae fumo
between mrekk and cookiezi/chocomint
lifeline is the goat
Real chad
Holy shit the quality of the video is soo good
everyone seems to forget the best setup is obviously a good sleep schedule and nutrition... smh...
Retinazer & Spasmatism
damn camera looks cleannn
i love old man
i would say learning rapid trigger technique early on is beneficial. took me years to unlearn mouse clicking because i started out on some garbage chiclet rubberdome keyboard.
nice video man, congrats
I was about to compare the wooting situation to mouse vs tablet, but then you already did it lmao
I do think equipment makes a difference as a beginner if you're uncomfortable, though... I used to play on a cheap chinese knockoff keyboard with blue switches and it absolutely killed my hands. And if someone is playing on a cheap membrane or laptop kb, I think it's going to be more difficult to learn bursts and streams. Why make the game more difficult for yourself on purpose just because new equipment won't make you a pro? I would honestly recommend any beginner with bad equipment to at least get a keypad if they're serious about the game, for their hands at the very least.
I was playing on laptop 60hz I couldn't even do 150bpm at the time then i swiched to tv with a keyboard and then i got a monitor 60hz so basically better and better setup haven't gotten me any better, I got the basics easily with trash set up , you only need equipment if you are top 1000 or 700 (imo) because even the smallest difference can cost mistake
I really wish any player would assume you have to play really hard things to be good. You can be good at anything, just, don’t trash others just because they can’t do like the top players.
bro turned on the clip maker cause he knows he is making banger takes.
10:36 I felt this on another level
Actually water fasting is a good way to git gud.
On my fasting days my brain just works way better and i set way better scores in osu.
6:20 this post lives rent free in my head it makes me so mad bro wtf is this post
im on vacation during COE, fuck
I have cubital tunnel syndrome in both of my wrists from 8k hours in mania. I wanted to start getting into std but my left wrist hurts so much when playing, i have a brace and elevate my left wrist. Im not sure what to do at this point when it comes to std.
Nice camera quality spazza
mrekk vs cookiezi, cookiezi is a man made a god by his skill, and mrekk is a god in human form showing off his abilities
Farming isn't bad
Farming gives incentive and motivation to play and improve
When I stopped farming, I lost the Any desire to play and have fun, because it was hammered into my brain that farming is bad, and most importantly, farming brought me fun
I enjoyed to get pp
please dont stop this series its ur best content!!
wooting is not a necessity but is optional
mrekk might be the goat but cookiezi is the goatest
Bro, i just bought keyboard pieces online to build my own keyboard, and now you say that you have cheap keycaps :(
Not sure try to stream osu is basicaly take 0 effort when you need proper pc/laptop that is capable to stream the game smoothly and don't forget about your internet speed, the price for better speed depends on your country and location even Pewdiepie former no.1 independent most subs user used to having internet issue back around 2018-2019 hell way before he become so famous he had to go to his neighboor stole their wifi internet to upload videos.
banger
Personally I adore the banana fish shirt you have. based manga
based pro farming spaßa shredder 113% 🤙🔥🔥🙏
YES SPAZZA! TAIKO IS LOVE! TAIKO IS LIFE!
If osu lives on for another 10, 20 years - or more - Cookiezi’s legacy will fall behind mrekk’s. Players like whitecat, bubbleman, ristel or vaxei will bejust regarded as someone who was number 1 or good at tournaments.
I don't know. I don't mean to be a shige fanboy but he got in on the game when it was still young, when, arguably, a skillset as special and fleshed out as his was 1 of 1. Sure, all of those players were groundbreaking, but I think shige was the first to show people that breaking the human limit was possible. Being the first to do anything comes with quite the legacy.
I don't think it's fair to mrekk of all people to compare him to shige, what he has done is just as impressive. He's taken the blueprint laid out by the number 1s before him and done what they couldn't. Stayed active, persistent, always improving, always dedicated. Not even shige can say that.
sure,IF SHIGE QUITS and OTHER PEOPLE KEEP PLAYING. shige is STILL playing and has made a comeback MANY times, it is unfathomable how long shige has played at a top level,while improving,setting unique scores,played during different kind of eras and is still showing no signs of stopping.
mrekk has shown no signs that he could recover from a major injury, or quitting the game for years because of school and comeback or whatever and has only been dominant on one era, the speed aim/brute force tapping.
cucumber tapping
This is true quality content
Spazza I like how you pronounce ever R
Osu faceit would be cool
nice one spazza
You can literally buy the sooting switches and program your own drivers and play crazy high plays
1:14 literally me. Maybe I need to do 1:32
Where do one send the statement to spazza? Kinda want to share stuff like this
i need fumos for osu improvement :P
i retire from osu every 30 minutes
Dear osu! Players... STOP DOING THIS.
I love your shirt bro
banger video
i love this guys videos :) good job
mrekk's plays are circus level, cooker da people's 🐐
yooo ur not dead
4:55 L take. Annoying maps are only annoying cause you either suck or it’s a bad map and I would say it‘s 50/50
Not only that. He starts with "Why are tournaments so fkn long??" and continues with "Why do we not have leagues??? Would be beneficial for the scene" Like bro???
i play only mouse in OSU
If you like playing fun maps and enjoy the songs then why get mad about people playing to gain ranks. Some people enjoy farming and that's ok. Shouldn't get mad at them because you don't enjoy it.
ekoro plays on 70 hertz fyi
NOWAYING
hello spazza, mama mia!
1. Wooting scales with technique, not to say good or bad technique, but technique that makes effective use of rapid trigger.
2. Hard agree that mrekk is the goat, he can do things that no one is capable of, but cookiezi really is something else entirely. Only time will tell if mrekk's legacy will reach or surpass shige's, but idk if it's even possible. I think of it this way: Without mrekk the game probably looks very different, but not completely incomparable to what it might be if he hadn't played the game. Without cookiezi I can't even imagine what the fuck osu would look like.
no way, all the fumos are already gone, video is ruined
enjoy yourself? 🤨
don't give mrekk ideas
yeah, right lol