Hey gang - leave it to me to drop the ball on identifying a couple of chords in this episode. I said F# and meant G# at one part, and whatever. Sorry, I'm only human and totally make mistakes. Just go with it and have some fun! 🙂👍
Hello and thank you, Dave. I love your stuff, tune in regularly, and sure wish the was someone like you around when I started playing back in ‘67. Waited a long time for you, brother. Real glad you showed up! Peace!
Nice to hear you say your human Dave... I still don't believe you... I'm going to figure out what planet your from .. you watch. Also Dave , on this planet , there's this band called Jethro Tull .. 😁 Thank you sir for all your knowledge and hard work.
Hey everyone! Here are the corrections/edits for this lesson. The last chord in 'Moonchild' is an Fmaj7/G#. I have no idea why I said "F# major over G#" - doh! Also, Fripp's sequence of notes during 'Discipline' is C-D-A-C-A. I have no idea why I called the last note "E" - duh me! And...the last note slid in 'Inner Garden' is G# not an F#. That would make that last chord an implied Db5/F. Sorry for the mouth typos, but believe me that mistakes/typos bother me WAY more than they bother you. \m/ ROCK ON \m/
LIfelong Fripp Devotee here. That being said, neither he or Brian Eno developed the layering process of using tape loops.West coast composers had been doing that for ten years before them. Check out Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air. The overlapping unequal meters - the Belew/Fripp circular parts come from Steve Reich. Check out Violin Phase and Piano Phase - also from the 60s.
A great episode, thanks David! I remember seeing a comment by Andy Summers of the Police (who apparently has known Fripp a long time) to the effect that Fripp was not a naturally gifted guitarist, but had made himself into a very good guitarist through sheer hard work and determination. Maybe that is a factor in his imaginative approach to music and his bands. I've been fortunate to see King Crimson twice: in the late '90s, with the 'double trio' of 2 guitars, 2 basses and 2 drums, and a few years ago, when he had 3(!) drummers, including Gavin Harrison, lined up at the front of the stage, with the rest of the band behind - absolutely shouldn't work, and was an amazing concert.
Amazing, thank you for all the work put on this video! It's super interesting and instructive for all us who breathe King Crimson or are influenced by them in our music!
CGDAEG - Crafty Guitarists Do Always Eat Good - Wish I could remember what interview I read that in, but it's here in one of my totes full of guitar mags...
Amazing! I started following KC when I was 15,bought I nthe Court and my music perception changed all the way, I had found heaven! Seen them live a few times and every concert is a mystical experience 👍 Still listening to them now that I'm 65,they are a pillar in modern music.
Interesting take on Inner Garden in dropped D tuning. All of Fripp’s KC playing from Thrak and later was in New Standard Tuning. Full scores have been published of Discipline/Beat/Three of a Perfect Pair and Thrak.
"Very demanding on the ears." That quote sums up much of King Crimson's music. I'd like to think that Fripp himself would agree with that statement. Thanks for another great Chordplay episode.
Thanks for all you do, Dave. You go where others don't- because they don't know it exists. ...You're appreciated. -- Probably more than you know. Serge from Chicago.
Hi David, Thanks for posting this really interesting video. I’m a huge King Crimson fan and I really enjoyed listening to you playing and talking about the band. Excellent stuff. All the best 👏👍💫
This was fantastic. I appreciate getting to see some of the chord types and progressions they used to create their unusual sound. Unusual for rock, but not impossible! Inspirational. Thank you!
Also, I'm really hoping to understand what makes Robert Fripp's playing and Adrian Belew's playing so unusual on David Bowie's albums. Those solos are just fire and mind-bending. I know that in some cases, Eno chopped up Belew's recorded playing and *constructed* solos. Still. The guitar on those albums have an incredible sound, and not because of just the effects. Harmonically complex and yet *not jazz* at all. I would love to know where that comes from.
that first riff from 21st century schizoid man was THE sound of crimson king.....i can still hear it...but no longer have the album...god knows where it is.....but your take sounds about right...and the double stop bend is the right way too....cheers.....gives some of todays kids something to think about what "we" listened to over 50 years ago....haha......:-)
Good teaching man! Crimson has long been one of my favourite bands. Larks Tongues' in Aspic is an all time favourite piece and was really way ahead of it's time and very dynamic and powerful and deep but also playful at times. Fripp is an amazing guitar genius to be sure and innovative and as you mentioned, prolific AF. His work with Bowie and Eno was incredible.
The "Discipline" album is a good introduction - Adrian Belew always lent a pop sensibility to KC - try "Frame by Frame," the title track or "The Sheltering Sky"
best album was in "the court of the crimson king"....first one i think....it sums up how the times were endof 60s early 70s.......yes...and most of us "smoked" some stuff too.....
Thank you, thank you, so much! Awesome. I do a lot of KC on my channel (not always “properly”) & will definitely change how I play ITCOTCK based on this video. Working on Lament now & you’re right that the chords are a workout! (comforting to see I play same ones as you mentioned). I, too, play a Vela, & use the bridge pu with the coil split to mimic the tone on the record for that part. Struggling with the whacked out picking in the last instrumental & last verse, but I’ll get it or come close. Again, excellent video, Dave!
Frippertronics was invented by Brian Eno. Fripp is the first to admit this. They have many recordings together using this technique. EDIT: great video by the way man, awesome work. Many thanks!
I believe the 5th's tuning came well into the KC catalog (early 80's?), and so I'm told Fripp had to go back and relearn the early stuff using the new (awkward) fingerings. So in terms of picking up fingering technique from videos/films, it depends when they were recorded.
Great lesson - you have a very good ear! Something you might want to try with the Discipline figure: put Belew's part on the looper instead of Fripp's, and when playing Fripp's part skip the second note in the pattern on every other repeat. This is what they're up to when they play that part the second time.
good choice! i have a weird thing for them, since lock down, i became intrigued and couldn't tell if i hated it or liked it, like a morbid curiosity, still don't but they are interesting at least, pompous and silly even, too maybe? very spinal tap ish lol, i find his playing stiff and rigid with a flat dynamics too, but i respect that they broke rules at least.
Great stuff. I've listened to King Crimson since high school, and I think if Fripp ever hit a blue note, he probably had made a mistake. His music defined rock without roll. He is a big fan of creating chromatic movement inside chords, and, like you noted, those changes can be hard to play--the shapes do not fall naturally under the fingers.
i wrote two stretched chords then realised they were the same but different voicings, a while ago, i felt quite chuffed, because it sounds like a chord change and is treated as one still.
Any chance you could do an Arctic Monkeys breakdown? Specifically their newer stuff from TBHC? Would be cool to see some modern stuff too! Love this channel. Thank you for all the help!
I recommend listening to their full studio discography, but if you can't then listen to these 5 songs: Level Five, Frame by frame, Starless, Cadence and Cascade, 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Such a heavy prog rock band in 1969- they should have been more highly regarded for their contribution as consummate musicians… DAVID PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a Dirty Honey lesson. Their studio songs are easy to figure out- but check out John Notto’s live solos- they’re amazing.
King Crimson could never make another album like their first album which is really to bad. I listened to peter sinfield solo albums, giles & mcdonald album, giles, giles and fripp but never liked any of those albums besides the first crimson album which was a major influence. I liked those frippertronic loops albums with Eno and fripps loops solo album. Fripp used major and minor scales in a jazz like way. I always should Fripp should have been the guitarist for Procol haram would have been a better fit. Try to make a Nils Lofgren licks lesson because he has a lot of solo albums. Click here to listen to Geoff Whitehorn with procol harum best concert i think ruclips.net/video/T1T-SwBfU3Y/видео.html
Hi David, were you planning on putting the tabs for this up on your Patreon? If you've been discouraged because you don't want to incur the wrath of Robert Fripp I understand - have heard he's a moody feller 😬
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Hey gang - leave it to me to drop the ball on identifying a couple of chords in this episode. I said F# and meant G# at one part, and whatever.
Sorry, I'm only human and totally make mistakes.
Just go with it and have some fun!
🙂👍
Hello and thank you, Dave. I love your stuff, tune in regularly, and sure wish the was someone like you around when I started playing back in ‘67. Waited a long time for you, brother. Real glad you showed up! Peace!
Nice to hear you say your human Dave... I still don't believe you... I'm going to figure out what planet your from .. you watch. Also Dave , on this planet , there's this band called Jethro Tull .. 😁 Thank you sir for all your knowledge and hard work.
haha...Dave...glad to hear you're only human too.....:-)
Hey everyone! Here are the corrections/edits for this lesson.
The last chord in 'Moonchild' is an Fmaj7/G#.
I have no idea why I said "F# major over G#" - doh!
Also, Fripp's sequence of notes during 'Discipline' is C-D-A-C-A.
I have no idea why I called the last note "E" - duh me!
And...the last note slid in 'Inner Garden' is G# not an F#.
That would make that last chord an implied Db5/F.
Sorry for the mouth typos, but believe me that mistakes/typos bother me WAY more than they bother you.
\m/ ROCK ON \m/
The song red is one of the heaviest tunes ever and John wetton’s bass is like thunder on the whole red album. The whole album is amazing
Wetton was amazing🥲
LIfelong Fripp Devotee here. That being said, neither he or Brian Eno developed the layering process of using tape loops.West coast composers had been doing that for ten years before them. Check out Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air. The overlapping unequal meters - the Belew/Fripp circular parts come from Steve Reich. Check out Violin Phase and Piano Phase - also from the 60s.
This is one of those bands that when you first hear it your brain needs a while to love it. Great lesson bro🎸🇲🇽
A great episode, thanks David! I remember seeing a comment by Andy Summers of the Police (who apparently has known Fripp a long time) to the effect that Fripp was not a naturally gifted guitarist, but had made himself into a very good guitarist through sheer hard work and determination. Maybe that is a factor in his imaginative approach to music and his bands.
I've been fortunate to see King Crimson twice: in the late '90s, with the 'double trio' of 2 guitars, 2 basses and 2 drums, and a few years ago, when he had 3(!) drummers, including Gavin Harrison, lined up at the front of the stage, with the rest of the band behind - absolutely shouldn't work, and was an amazing concert.
Amazing, thank you for all the work put on this video! It's super interesting and instructive for all us who breathe King Crimson or are influenced by them in our music!
CGDAEG - Crafty Guitarists Do Always Eat Good - Wish I could remember what interview I read that in, but it's here in one of my totes full of guitar mags...
YES! Thank you!!!!!
Amazing! I started following KC when I was 15,bought I nthe Court and my music perception changed all the way, I had found heaven! Seen them live a few times and every concert is a mystical experience 👍 Still listening to them now that I'm 65,they are a pillar in modern music.
Interesting take on Inner Garden in dropped D tuning. All of Fripp’s KC playing from Thrak and later was in New Standard Tuning.
Full scores have been published of Discipline/Beat/Three of a Perfect Pair and Thrak.
"Very demanding on the ears." That quote sums up much of King Crimson's music. I'd like to think that Fripp himself would agree with that statement. Thanks for another great Chordplay episode.
Thanks for all you do, Dave. You go where others don't- because they don't know it exists. ...You're appreciated. -- Probably more than you know.
Serge from Chicago.
Oh hell yes. Can't wait to watch this.
Hi David,
Thanks for posting this really interesting video. I’m a huge King Crimson fan and I really enjoyed listening to you playing and talking about the band. Excellent stuff. All the best 👏👍💫
This was fantastic. I appreciate getting to see some of the chord types and progressions they used to create their unusual sound. Unusual for rock, but not impossible! Inspirational. Thank you!
Also, I'm really hoping to understand what makes Robert Fripp's playing and Adrian Belew's playing so unusual on David Bowie's albums. Those solos are just fire and mind-bending. I know that in some cases, Eno chopped up Belew's recorded playing and *constructed* solos. Still. The guitar on those albums have an incredible sound, and not because of just the effects. Harmonically complex and yet *not jazz* at all. I would love to know where that comes from.
that first riff from 21st century schizoid man was THE sound of crimson king.....i can still hear it...but no longer have the album...god knows where it is.....but your take sounds about right...and the double stop bend is the right way too....cheers.....gives some of todays kids something to think about what "we" listened to over 50 years ago....haha......:-)
Loved this video. Your talent is slightly eclipsed by your enthusiasm or visa versa. Both over the top!!! Wow! Thanks
Awesome! This was one of my requests that you'd do some King Crimson. Thanks David, you rock !! 😃
❤🌍🌎🌏
It’s great to see some of King Crimson’s music get the attention that it deserves - thanks!
I love the description "yummy chord"!
Good teaching man! Crimson has long been one of my favourite bands. Larks Tongues' in Aspic is an all time favourite piece and was really way ahead of it's time and very dynamic and powerful and deep but also playful at times. Fripp is an amazing guitar genius to be sure and innovative and as you mentioned, prolific AF. His work with Bowie and Eno was incredible.
Great episode, I loved all the stuff you showed here and the last acoustic chord progression is magic!
Brilliant as always - sparks inspiration brutha great breakdown🤙
Never listen to them but think I'll give it a go,diggin these structures. Thanks for a eye opener
The "Discipline" album is a good introduction - Adrian Belew always lent a pop sensibility to KC - try "Frame by Frame," the title track or "The Sheltering Sky"
best album was in "the court of the crimson king"....first one i think....it sums up how the times were endof 60s early 70s.......yes...and most of us "smoked" some stuff too.....
One of my favorite bands. 🥰
Wow. Just, WOW!! Fripp is such an anomaly/enigma and so difficult to figure out. Thank you for these awesome lessons!
Thanks for this, im a longtime fan but haven't ever tried to play any of their stuff.
Thank you, thank you, so much! Awesome. I do a lot of KC on my channel (not always “properly”) & will definitely change how I play ITCOTCK based on this video. Working on Lament now & you’re right that the chords are a workout! (comforting to see I play same ones as you mentioned). I, too, play a Vela, & use the bridge pu with the coil split to mimic the tone on the record for that part. Struggling with the whacked out picking in the last instrumental & last verse, but I’ll get it or come close. Again, excellent video, Dave!
What an amazing video! Like always!! keep it up!
Awesome video. To my ears some KC tabs on the internet are off too.
Nice!
Brilliant.
Love your stuff. 21st Century was perfect. Thank you for these great late night lessons.
Kansas seems a little bit of a stretch.
Just got back into King Crimson, so this came at the perfect time. Thanks as usual :)
Fripp is my Guitar God. Love his work with Bowie and Eno especially
Frippertronics was invented by Brian Eno. Fripp is the first to admit this. They have many recordings together using this technique. EDIT: great video by the way man, awesome work. Many thanks!
It's important to point out that Brian Eno 'borrowed' the idea from Terry Riley originally.
In 1970 everyone thought I was crazy when I played Fripp on the player! He who laughs last laughs best!
I’ve been waiting for this
Nice ears dude! Thanks for the analysis.
Very interesting music
Great lesson, thank you!
Nailed it!!
I believe the 5th's tuning came well into the KC catalog (early 80's?), and so I'm told Fripp had to go back and relearn the early stuff using the new (awkward) fingerings. So in terms of picking up fingering technique from videos/films, it depends when they were recorded.
Great, thanx
What, no Fracture? ; )
Great lesson, glad you finally tackled the mighty Crim!
Excellent joke :-) Fracture, the final boss of guitar playing.
Check out Anthony Garone's video on Fracture if you haven't already! 👍
Great lesson - you have a very good ear! Something you might want to try with the Discipline figure: put Belew's part on the looper instead of Fripp's, and when playing Fripp's part skip the second note in the pattern on every other repeat. This is what they're up to when they play that part the second time.
Fripp + Belew are my favorite guitar genius !
You're a good guy.
Great episode.
Would love to see the chords of spastic ink
21st Century Schizoid Man for the opening. Hopefully you cover Red or One More Red Nightmare.
good choice! i have a weird thing for them, since lock down, i became intrigued and couldn't tell if i hated it or liked it, like a morbid curiosity, still don't but they are interesting at least, pompous and silly even, too maybe? very spinal tap ish lol, i find his playing stiff and rigid with a flat dynamics too, but i respect that they broke rules at least.
Great stuff. I've listened to King Crimson since high school, and I think if Fripp ever hit a blue note, he probably had made a mistake. His music defined rock without roll. He is a big fan of creating chromatic movement inside chords, and, like you noted, those changes can be hard to play--the shapes do not fall naturally under the fingers.
i wrote two stretched chords then realised they were the same but different voicings, a while ago, i felt quite chuffed, because it sounds like a chord change and is treated as one still.
Wow, David. Well before my time, but KC were well ahead of theirs. Any chance of some licks by Rocky George?
J'aime crimson tellement c'est bizarre pour moi de savoir que je ne suis pas seul....continue...Cordialement. Christian
Any chance you could do an Arctic Monkeys breakdown? Specifically their newer stuff from TBHC? Would be cool to see some modern stuff too! Love this channel. Thank you for all the help!
I’m not too familiar with King Crimson. What’s your Top 5 King Crimson songs?
I recommend listening to their full studio discography, but if you can't then listen to these 5 songs: Level Five, Frame by frame, Starless, Cadence and Cascade, 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Such a heavy prog rock band in 1969- they should have been more highly regarded for their contribution as consummate musicians… DAVID PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a Dirty Honey lesson. Their studio songs are easy to figure out- but check out John Notto’s live solos- they’re amazing.
chords of voivod would be sick!
👍
I'm amazed at how much TOOL she The Mars Volta borrowed from King Crimson. It's uncanny. I hear it in Tim Henson's work too.
FLASH Too! Dave cover some Flash.
How about a lesson with stuff from Mike Oldfield? He is a great guitar player and his music is kind of
prog :)
His part in Rock Bottom (Robert Wyatt) is AMAZING, for instance!
WOW KOOL MAN😂
THEL HUN GINGEET, DAVID BREWMASTER!
King Crimson could never make another album like their first album which is really to bad. I listened to peter sinfield solo albums, giles & mcdonald album, giles, giles and fripp but never liked any of those albums besides the first crimson album which was a major influence. I liked those frippertronic loops albums with Eno and fripps loops solo album. Fripp used major and minor scales in a jazz like way. I always should Fripp should have been the guitarist for Procol haram would have been a better fit. Try to make a Nils Lofgren licks lesson because he has a lot of solo albums. Click here to listen to Geoff Whitehorn with procol harum best concert i think ruclips.net/video/T1T-SwBfU3Y/видео.html
you find interlocking type of riff in indie bands as well like Foals
Hi David, were you planning on putting the tabs for this up on your Patreon? If you've been discouraged because you don't want to incur the wrath of Robert Fripp I understand - have heard he's a moody feller 😬