Toyota's New WATER Engine Will Destroy The Entire EV Industry!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Is Water the Fuel of the Future? Toyota's Water-Powered Engine EXPLAINED!
Today we are taking a deep dive into Toyota's groundbreaking water-powered engine. This revolutionary technology is poised to not only upend traditional fossil fuel usage but also offer a compelling alternative to electric vehicles. From its unrivaled fuel efficiency to its simple yet durable design, let's explore why Toyota's water-powered engine could redefine the automotive landscape!
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Total, unfiltered bullshit here. The entire video skips the one significant detail that exposes the discussion as being one of perpetual motion: Where does the power for water electrolysis come from? If you're going to tell me that it's generated by the engine, you've just closed the loop in defining a perpetual motion machine. Think about it: you start with water and a bit of battery-provided power to start the electrolysis. In the end, you're supposed to get back water (the product of combusting hydrogen), enough electricity to make more hydrogen - replacing what came off the battery to jump-start the process, torque and heat. You have a zero-sum of water, a zero-sum of electricity, and an excess of heat and work? No. The energy that runs a combustion engine comes from the energy released in joining fuel and oxidizer. If you want to separate the combusted product (water) into fuel and oxidizer, you HAVE TO INVEST AT LEAST THAT MUCH ENERGY TO BREAK THE CHEMICAL BONDS. Whatever information Toyota has put out there, the video maker has misrepresented for the sake of views.
Solar or nuclear or gym goers could turn wheel like Conan and huge ass
That’s Toyota crap doing rounds in social media….a weak response to Elon Musk who injured them deeply😂😂😅
It would have to be a big battery, larger than an EV battery for the same range, due to the inefficiencies.
@@Rated_Wzz You really should study up. There's a lot wrong with your assumptions there. You can't run an engine on boiling water unless something is boiling the water. If the engine is expected to boil the water, it has to provide the input and the output energy - which is more energy than it started with. Warm water has no more molecules than cold water. It just has more kinetic energy. I'm pretty sure that every single sentence in your comment has a massive factual/scientific error or bad assumption in it because not a single sentence there has any truth to it.
I agree, you may as well use the mysterious electricity source (required to spit the water) directly to power the car. This idea seems to originate from 'cold fusion' research which was supposed to produce excess heat but was then debunked by most of the the scientific community many years ago.
Doesn’t this violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics that means you would have to put more energy into splitting water 💦 before burning 🔥 and combining it back into water 💦 again?
Sssh! Don't expose the snake oil bullsh it!
Obviously but who cares if you are trying to con people. As they say, a fool and his money are easily seperated.
The presentation of the idea is COMPLETELY wrong. Whoever has written the script, is not really Science literate. (I wonder how deep was the involvement of chatGPT).
The system is not "Fueled" with water. It is fueled with electricity that is used to electrolyze water. ( @1:31 )
Water is just the working fluid. It gets broken down into Hydrogen & Oxygen. The Hydrogen should get separated from Oxygen & stored into a tank for being oxidized back to water in the IC engine.
The whole thing still runs on electricity. It is just changing the battery from Lithium ions based system to Hydrogen based one.
It is a lot of jumping around in terms of thermodynamics & too complex. For the foreseeable future, I will not be moving my investment from Tesla to Toyota shares.
It probably won't actually combine it back into water otherwise there'd be no energy for the car to use. Even the "actual water engines" people have made for their own cars in videos imply they still have to refill the tank with water but equally as gas vehicles
@@mastupilo9653 I have no idea how these are supposed to work. If you use energy (in any form) to break down water into hydrogen and oxygen you will ALWAYS get less energy back when you burn the hydrogen.
If you don't burn the hydrogen, as you suggest, then no energy will be released.
I would have tried to build one, but I figured the oil companies would off me.
Been done....'Smokey', out of Florida, late seventies. Probably sold any patents he had, or was killed. Been at least one person BUILDING; since.
@@donbradyjr.5624 Correct...As I remember.....one of the street rod magazines, at that time, actually tested the Smoky's engine mod on a Pontiac Fiero. Worked like a charm....better mileage, plus more horsepower. The patient was sold to one of the popular camshaft manufacturers.....they then sold to another company.....who buried the tech. It preheated gasoline to vapor point....fed to a turbine - like, high speed mixer....then fed to intake ports. Required camshaft swap...and downsizing radiator as engine also ran much cooler. Smokey Yunick, was a brillant engine designer!
you could ask Stanley Myers but he is dead because of hydrogen powered vehicle
those early test were done with leaded gas , gas now has additives so it can't be vaporized to that extent@@hokep61
He was the inventor of this exact technology before they killed him. He was poisoned. @@user-zb8wg2os2y
There is only one thing that can stop Toyota and their water powered engine... The third law of thermodynamics..
Except that Stan Meyers came up with a way to split water into hydrogen and oxygen - that requires very little energy (unlike electrolysis, which requires much more energy).
The presenter in this video is (I think - assuming SM's process is employed) incorrectly claiming that electrolysis is used to break down water into hydrogen & oxygen.
Stan Meyers' process uses high voltage and high frequency, with current flow approaching zero. There is no need to store any hydrogen (presenter incorrect here as well), as Stan's process converts water into HH+O "on the fly", as it is needed. (Again assuming Toyota is using Stan Meyers' process.)
He also came up with an electrical method to keep the water (fuel) in the tank from freezing
Stan is the man with the plan. Let's see it stand up to even the slightest peer review. There are endless videos similar to claiming amazing (unreal) tech that amount to nothing, no product, no tech, no peer reviewed white papers...nada. Then after a while the conspiracy theorists join in and fabricate a 'suppressed by the fossil fuel industry'. Acting as a consultant engineer, I have been to many start-up tech company pie in the sky presentations to investors.
@@samjubilee6593
What was the electrical method for keeping the water from freezing?
@@bobbabai I don't remember now, but at the time I read about it, it made sense. I personally know a man who met Stan in Ohio and saw his experiments. No doubt in my mind that he was legit (and a genius). He had knowledge of both water and electricity that no one else understands; in the future he will be remembered as a great inventor, at the very least.
@@samjubilee6593 I don't know how any of this makes sense unless you've got an advanced degree in physics. I imagine there's a lot of people who pretend they understand.
Stanley Mayer created hydrogen on demand which used electrolysis at the point of injection in the 70s & then he mysteriously died… I’m just glad a motor manufacturer like Toyota & JCB is bringing this to reality👏👏👏
Don't forget Elon Musk.
I remember that.
I may be dumb about this, but wouldn't this be like a perpetual motion machine? It takes as much energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen as you get back by burning the hydrogen.
Stanley Meyer proved that Maxwellian "LAW" to be a lie but that's not why they killed him per-se.
His under 5 amp 110 volt system was patented in many countries when murdered.
The climate lie would have bit the dust had his system gone into mass production, thus the tax on "carbon" would not be justifiable.
T H A T S W H Y T H E Y K I L L E D H I M.
Not at all. When you charge a car battery for instance, hydrogen gas is produced, because of the current running through the distilled water in the battery 🔋...😉
In a closed ecosystem no water will ever disappear, looks like you have fallen for the propaganda
Look back at Stan Meyers and his water fuel cell, car and death.
@@Sport--willowExactly!!!😮
Hate to tell you but a guy made one in the 30s for a contest I think chevy held ,surprisingly the motor,the blueprints, and the guy all disappeared never to be seen again. Incase anyone was wondering how I know this, I tried to do a book report on the carburetor back in the 80s
in new zealand a guy was running a toyota car on water in the 70s his name was archie blue and he was an electrician he was doing what toyota is doing now the theory was he had capacitors to each spark plug and they broke the water down into its separate components so i believe the theory does work anyway he died and his car disappeared so its makes you wonder what happened to him.Appartently he ran his car for years without any issues .
Yep big brother is watching you that's what my folks told me 😮
When JP Morgan figured out Tesla wanted to share his free energy discovery with the world for free Morgan cut off his funding. "As long as we have to pay for the necessities to live they will control us all"
Everyone dies... I've had lots of cars disappear too.@@brenttamatea7578
Conspiracies, the 30's, the 40's, my retired next door neighbour ( electrical eng. ) buy outs, dissapearances .......now Toyota. Such a beautiful Alice in Wonderland we live in. Bless ur 24 with more dreams.
You are right to raise this question. The video does not explain where the electricity comes from for the electrolysis. However,, I think it comes down to whether it takes more energy to break down water than the power output of the engine.
Hoorayyy!! Yes, exactly ....
12v Battery, the same thing your starter uses to start your car when its not running
@@ludas6024 Yes, you can split water with only 12 volts, but can it generate enough hydrogen to run a car engine continuously? If so, what size would the electrolysis equipment need to be?
It takes "at least" as much power/energy to separate hydrogen from water (electrolysis) as you get back from "recombining" the hydrogen with oxygen in the combustion chamber (combustion). In the real world (according to the laws of thermodynamics), you will always get less back. What a load of shit.
@@kencentury Check out Stan Meyers' process - he did not use electrolysis. He came up with a way to split water into HH + O that employs high voltage at high frequency, with current (anps) approaching zero.
He used water as a dielectric between 2 plates (in close proximity) which act as a capacitor, but charge polarity never reverses (unlike alternating current).
I heard that story in the Philippines in the late 80's. The man who claimed to discover the plain water as fuel to the car mysteriously disappeared and never to be found.
It would be great if it also can use sea water as we have alot of it and also ships could have this engine and sail for ever lol...
Yes, people in white coats took him away in a van ...
@@stevepayne778maybe the idea has been stolen.
Yes,it was 1985 in Philippine Man invented the car instead of using Gas worked with water.
@@stevepayne778😂
For anyone wondering. This is FAKE and it doesn't exist. You can't run on water as a fuel source for the same reason you can't make a fire with ash. Water is combusted (or what scientists call, oxydized) hydrogen. Just like ash is oxydized wood and CO2 is oxydized carbon (i.e. petrol and diesel).
It's not that you can't turn water into hydrogen, you definitely can, just like you can take CO2 out of the air and make carbon that you can burn again.
The problem is that, in a perfect world, it costs as much energy to turn it into its "fuel" form as what the fuel will provide when combusted. However, we don't live in a perfect world so you'll consistently lose a little bit of energy.
Notice how they never mention where the electricity for the electrolysis comes from. It's the same story with all those perpetual energy devices, they always hide the energy source.
Source: I'm an electrical engineer
Stanley Meyer did it, and they killed him for it
@@waltersobchak300 you don't seem to understand how chemical reactions work. It's not that we haven't thought of a neat trick of how to make it happen. It's that it's literally proven for why it's not possible.
@@bennievaneeden2720 hydrogen fuel cells are basically the same. not only is it possible, it's the way of the future
@@waltersobchak300 hydrogen and water are two different things. Hydrogen is flammable -- water is not. When something is flammable, like oil, propane, gasoline / petrol / diesel or hydrogen, it will give you energy to power car. You can turn water into hydrogen, yes, but it requires more energy than what you'd get by burning it or using a hydrogen fuel cell. It would be like dropping a ball from a certain height then expecting it to bounce back higher than the position you dropped it from.
I am an electrical engineer as well and I challenge you to PROVE your allegation. BTW Tesla is making the same claim about development of the water engine.
what is the tech break through - most proposed water-fuelled cars rely on some form of electrolysis to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen and then recombine them to release energy; however, because the energy required to separate the elements will always be at least as great as the useful energy released, this cannot be used to produce net energy.
Maybe if EVs used water filled lead batteries instead we could scavenge the hydrogen from the EV's to power the hydrogen/water cars.
@@gurubuzzzz Anybody ever tell you that you're a genius?
Didn't think so.
Please don't introduce any actual science or facts into this delusional video. It spoils the whole point.! 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Exactly. Is it so easy to fool people these days? Haven't these guys ever been to school? The only way to make energy from water is to build a bloody dam!
that is right
About 14 years ago I did a home built HHO system it worked in a 1996 dodge neon getting 30 mpg up to 48mpg. Down fall was the system had to be kept an eye on like everyday. I would burn up plates or the coating on the plates would get bad to where the currant would not pass through any more. Regardless it worked in conjunction with gas not just the HHO alone.
I see videos like that all the time on RUclips and in the comments section all I find is criticism due to the laws of thermal dynamics. Can you provide any plans or get me into the right directions so I can try it out myself? Most videos are done really badly and hence lack in views so I guess people have no benefit of making them. I have to find out by myself to see what's true.
Please share your direct email address
Well done anyway and keep at it. 👍
did similar. made browns gas outta water and mixed it with regular gas. works well. gotta keep an eye on it that is true.
By the way, I saw a video just recently where a guy (it was on the TNT channel) made a generator instead of stainless steel with graphene plates. He said graphene is not as prone to corrosion and therefore the generator lasts way longer. Also he mixed urea (basically a form of nitrogen vertilizer) into the water as it increases electrolysis. I don't know what to do with all the info yet but it sure sounds promising!
This reminds me of Filipino Daniel Dingel's invention of a water powered engine for his car, with the same idea of splitting hydrogen and oxygen using electricity from a small battery
Yes, he seems to have died too
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I agree with smferreiro. The article is light on engineering. We all know what water is, where it comes from and that you can store it in plastic containers but where does the considerable amount of electric power come from? There will still need to be some onboard storage of hydrogen as the electrolysis system will not be able to match the rapid changes required by the engine. Will the electrical power be stored or generated? If generated, there will need to be a mechanism for starting the engine. We need much more info about the electrical system.
Look up water to fuel u can build one yourself with hardware store components. And yes it takes more energy to roduce than it will put out the gas produced is highly explosive and must be made in small amounts this is old tech google it
So does it freeze in cold weather?
Was this posted on April 1st?
It seems like it! At 3:25 they refer to "diluted water", W(ever)TF that is! They might be having a laugh, or they might mean 'distilled water', but either way, if you're trying to build credibility it's not a good look!
Good point - I suspect you're right. It's a silly posting. Just surprised how many people it has sucked in ....
Imagine if everyone had a water engine generator powering their home.
You can literally buy one
@@Dazerohlink?
@@ryang7684 Electrolysis of Water Generator - Oxy Hydrogen Flame Generator Home Science Kit - Engineidy just look this up
@@ryang7684 not trying to get killed but basically use this to build a full power generator
think the same but for sure you cant buy. Need make some research and make DIY...
The video is missing the most important part... where is the electricity for the on-the-fly electrolysis coming from?
The resulting energy balance is way less efficient than the one of an EV.
Maybe putting a catalyst inside the water to speed up the reaction for separating hydrogen and oxygen could do the job. Like Nickel-based hydroxide.
@@hitmanx3475 You still need energy (electricity) to split the molecule. Water can be split with electrcity (electrolysis) or heat (pyrolysis)
@@smferreiro2610 Hm so in comparison will Evs take more power from batteries or water engines?
@@hitmanx3475 From battery to electric motor to wheels you have 98% efficiency. From battery to electrolysis, to water recombination (H2 engine), to wheels, you have 40% efficiency in the best case.
Math does not match the expectations!
@@smferreiro2610 did the clicbait meet your expectations?
Remarkable concept. Go for it guys.
🎉
Where does the energy for the electrolysis come from
I'm inventing a car that runs on Hopes and Dreams.😮
I bet it will go further that the car powered with bullcrap
One of my friends at Penn State had this idea 40 years ago, but never pursued it. Making ammonia based contact explosives and inserting it into key holes in the Dorms Doors was more his style.
This has been done like almost 50 to 60 years ago, and it works. The only problem with this is that the person who learned this the government tried to buy the plans and the man wouldn’t sell it and all of a sudden the man woke up dead!
For the glory of old State!
So where is the energy coming from to separate the Hydrogen from the oxygen. From the same batteries you have in a electric car? You can't ever create energy out on nothing
Do you see dams
If dams can get power from water than machines can too
@@Potatoalex538 Yeah, we simply need cars that collect water on the roof and are 100 meters tall.
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth....
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At 3:26 the voice over says “with easy refueling from any source of diluted water”,,,. What I would like to know is what is the water diluted with¿?
Distilled water
Tears from the crying engineers that can't figure out how to break the laws of thermodynamics.
The author will receive the Chinese intelligence award of the year😅
Pure click bait. And where does the electricity come from? Hummm kind of side step that. Sorry, there is no free lunch
Needs energy to separate the hydrogen from the water. Energy is also needed to create the distilled water in the first place. It's essentially got an internal combustion engine so it's no more or less reliable that what we have got, but it uses lubricating oil so unless they have eliminated all blow by, the exhaust will contain water tarnished with some oil. It's better, but as you say, no free lunch...
Toyota chairman should sue this storyteller😅😂
Even children know there's no such thing as "diluted water."
Sure, but it's distilled water that's being used
So what? @@vuongnh0607l
It's naturally homeopathic!
@@jamesvandamme7786 🤣
just mix water with water gees, only 1 way to dilute it
This will require even more electricity for the electrolysis than an electric motor. And that electricity will come from EV batteries so you still have to charge it. This will most likely use twice as much electricity as electric cars. I call bullshit here. You will again need oil changes and coolant like a gas engine.
Im pretty sure that 48v lithium cell is good enough, with a step up circuit, having enough power to perform electrolysis.
They need to publish the numbers though, how much hydrogen per hour produce, and with that amount to how many miles.
Ive read before, hydrogen combustion engines can reach up to 48mpg which is crazy efficient.
Imagine if the tank able to hold up to 10gallons of hydrogen gas, and 1 tank consumes 25% of battery to produce. But ya, they need provide more numbers for comparisons
Combustion engine efficiency of any type is highly inefficient at 20-40% (hydrogen being about 40%. EVs are about 80-90% efficient.
It would technically not be far from a conventional engine using the hydrogen as the combustion element but cleaner as there should be no pollutants expelled after ignition. It would still need a battery but once moving alternators would recharge the battery system to cause the atomic separation. I'm sure it works and ppl have been killed over the invention design guess who by ( oil giants) or who brought the patents and shelved them . The only waste is o2 . My concern would be if we all use it would we consume all the water and raise the oxegyn levels in the atmosphere? As that would be bad one we need water all living things do and during dinosaur times the oxegyn was at 35 percent. Scientists say humans can't survive at those levels it's to much . I think we're in the 20 ish percent margins currently . Nothing to drink and higher air not good .
Yup. If you find the Toyota block diagram, you'll see it runs on a huge battery stack. The electrolysis process might be efficient, but it'll never be 100%. The hydrogen combustion engine is certainly way less efficient than modern electric motors, probably 15-25%, same as today's ICE engines that have a century of development behind them. The engine will be heavier than a motor, you'll need to add a transmission, you'll need a water tank and the H2 tank. More complex, heavier, less efficient... wow, I want one of these! It'll be interesting, if Toyota really takes this anywhere, to read an engineering analysis of the real thing.
@@dmfencingbuildingservices2870 When the car cracks the H2O, it's releasing one oxygen atom for every two hydrogen atoms it puts in the tank. When it burns that hydrogen, it's pulling one oxygen atom from the air (or, hey, why not just keep the oxygen you made?), and releasing water vapor.. or cycling that back to the water tank.
You didn't explain on where about the electrolysis unit to produce the hydrogen needed the electrical supply? Is it coming from a battery bank? By concept, the water powered engine needs to get the same amount of energy supply from the battery in order to get the mechanical energy to drive the car. So, in that case it would be similar as an EV car. Remember the principle of energy conservation. You can neither create energy nor destroy it.
Indeed, i love how that *massive* hurdle isn't covered at all in this video.
Epic work Toyota and the people that work there are absolutely amazing
That's pretty awesome. One question: If I live in Norway where 50% of the year is in sub-zero temperatures, how does water works?
You have to pedal the car until it warms up and melts the water.
You would have a battery operated water heater on board!
@@phil2443 How about a tiny oil powered lamp that heats the water. You flick a flint switch to ignite it.
It doesnt have you ever seen the Flintstones, start running in there, the faster you run the warmer you get, according to Greata, it all melted already and you should take a bikini, but she is dillusionnal, just a bit...
@@rayharvey1330 you are onto something!
03:20 'diluted' water ? Wow amazing stuff 🤔 (distilled perhaps)
More importantly, .. where is energy for electrolysis in first place? Wtaf
No no no! it is VERY crucial to dilute the water with WATER of course! otherwise this would be clicbait
Solar is free and nuclear cheap, where oil pumps get their electricity
Pure nonsense. Where the “high power energy” for the electrolysis comes from🤔 Then the distilled water… it’s an insulator. You have to put some electrolytes in it, else no electrolysis. And electrolysis is a very high energetic and costly reaction. Nicely made though. Looks professional. Some people may even believe it😅
@user-ky7iz6up1v You still have the issue of the initial energy for the electrolysing process. And as far as I remember he mentioned that you "only have to put in distilled water". Just want to show that this story is nonsense. And from more sides.
I made it to 3:26 when I heard the engine could use "any source of Diluted water".
I think its a great concept as a type of hybrid
How many different "Toyota's New Engine will destroy EV's!" videos have I seen? I can imagine a scenario where a limited distance engine, like a forklift might possibly get enough power from this electrolysis process. He also didn't seem to mention what the electrical power source for the electrolysis was.
What about the guy with the Peugeot ?
The alternator output can be split into power for the ICE and power for the electrolysis battery. It's not rocket science.
@@endthefed5304 Can you do the experiment and let us know ?
@@pauldavies6037 in my copious spare time? Sure! :-)
@@endthefed5304 What sort of alternator are you running? It would need to be the same size as the front of the car.
25 years later.... the world is a dessert
How🫠
Water can be extracted from the air.
Water can be extracted from the air.
This video is talking about a perpetual motion engine. It DOES NOT WORK.
Takes MORE energy to generate enough electricity to sustain electrolysis than you can get out of the resultant hydrogen gas.
Not to mention the relatively low efficiency of all internal combustion engines.
Most of the information in this video is inaccurate and incorrect.
The energy created by dissociation of water into hydrogen and oxygen is done with highly reactive metals that are consumed in the reaction.
Water is not a fuel! It's an ash with an extremely low energy content.
I don't think the video producer understands what is actually going on or whete the energy to run these engine is coming from.
It's coming from the metals...
Yes yes, that is the way to go.👍
One question - how will this engine work in temperatures below 0° Celsius?
Engine heater
The only way this could work is if a catalyst split the water using much less energy than you get back by burning the hydrogen.
And we don't have that tech yet. This is BS.
Or if you had a bullcrap fermentator on board to provide energy
It doesn't work like that. Learn some thermodynamics.
catalyst does not reduce the energy required or release from reactions
This may be a dumb question but where I live, every winter is below zero. What's it going to be like starting that water engine in the morning?
It might be frozen you aren’t going to work 😂.
Alaska need to test these. Fairbanks get -50 often. Good test city!
How do you make your coffee in the morning? any more silly questions?
@@yveslaflute9228I think it’s an excellent question!
Most arent poor like u or dump they live warm
There are a number of brilliant money saving fuel inventions that have been bought out and are now sitting on the shelf of of various companies. Nothing will ever change.
I have respect for the Japanese people and Toyota Japan. They are great people to work with and know team work. This idea will run rings around electric vehicles and easy enough to fit into any vehicle or truck.
The only assumption I am working on is that the laws of thermodynamics are incontrovertible. I am also sure that the engineers at Toyota also know that which leads me two possible conclusions.
The video is a misrepresentation of what they are actually doing or it is a complete spoof.
Sounds great. But how does it work in below freezing temperatures!
@@andrewpelowski It cannot work at any temperature.
The video is a spoof/joke or scam, can't be sure which but for sure you cannot get power from water.
You can split water into hydrogen and oxygen. It takes an amount of energy.
When you use that stored energy you will get a proportion of that energy back. You will always have to invest a bit more energy than you will ever get back.
100 years there was no gasoline station and they fixed it building more, so how could get electricity build more solar panels
A Welsh engineer made a working model of one of these it was a three cylinder engine in the 60s and BP bought the patent and licence and it was never seen again 😳
yep. they get them all. we get nothing. buy oil
No, he was an Iranian democrat atheist
Increase range by using diluted water. Genius!
During the peak of pandemic when very few vehicles run it was noticeable to see the environment recover from pollution. There are times people can see mountains clearly that cannot be seen during ordinary days. Its like we are on another world. This proj was a very promising among all human inventions.
The presentation of the idea is COMPLETELY wrong. Whoever has written the script, is not really Science literate. (I wonder how deep was the involvement of chatGPT).
The system is not "Fueled" with water. It is fueled with electricity that is used to electrolyze water. ( @1:31 )
Water is just the working fluid. It gets broken down into Hydrogen & Oxygen. The Hydrogen should get separated from Oxygen & stored into a tank for being oxidized back to water in the IC engine.
The whole thing still runs on electricity. It is just changing the battery from Lithium ions based system to Hydrogen based one.
It is a lot of jumping around in terms of thermodynamics & too complex. For the foreseeable future, I will not be moving my investment from Tesla to Toyota shares.
We been building these kits for our current cars/trucks in Texas for years. There are many videos on RUclips around building these kits for yourself. Some have reported an increase of milage around 10-15% depending on how efficient your current motor and system used.
No you are not. You are just conning people.
Please, show us this elusive, non-existent contraption you are claiming exists.
I have always said that this would be the future...and this is by no means a new concept...but those that have tried to advance it from their home garages, have met with untimely deaths...hopefully Toyota will be able to bring this out of the shadows and make it reality.....It's also too bad Detroit has sat on their hands with this......
The future is Pedal power.
More conspiracy theory nonsense. It seems that you would rather cling to conspiracy theory rather than educate yourself about energy conservation and the laws of thermodynamics.
@@rogerphelps9939 I'm inventing a car that runs on hopes and dreams.
You can't be serious and think that what you said is true. No one has ever made an internal combustion engine that runs off of water. No one. Hydrogen, yes, but the process of converting water into hydrogen is expensive and uses more energy than it produces. It would be like you cutting down a huge tree only to whittle it down and throw away all of the shavings, just to make one toothpick.
@@rayharvey1330 Yabba Dabba Do!!!
This video forgot to mention that theses are electric cars with extra steps, you need a battery to separate the H2, so you still need rare earth metals and still need to charge it. 16 years ago I built a HHO/gas hybrid that because of the higher temps, pressure, and oxygen the gas burned more completely and cleanly. Gaining me 10 more miles to the gallon. Fun fact only 30% of the energy in gas is used the rest is lost to heat and out the tail pipe.
This changes everything. Even the maritime industries would benefit from this.
Adaptable to older moters also
No.
That idea has been around for 65 yrs or more. A bloke in NZ had a Fiat Bambina running on the same idea, breaking water into Hydrogen & Oxygen by electrolysis and burning the Hydrogen for fuel, that was back in the 1960s.
But oil companies bought the patent so he couldn't build them.
@@neildewitt2869Patents are protecting only for 25 years the inventions. So no cause why this kind of engine ist not available since 1985😂
@@neildewitt2869 It can't be patented... it's a perpetual motion machine. Not what Toyota's actually talking about, but anything that claims the water is the fuel. Though I'm wondering if this is, in fact, a complete hoax and I just found a slightly better version of it.
And after reviewing this more, and in other information on the internet, I'm convinced this is a pure hoax and not something Toyota is working on.
Say goodbye to cheap water. Dont forget the water tax.
If the cabal have anything to do with it ??? water is God sent for free ! the rest is down to greed by the globalists !
we would be forced to fill our pools with Gasoline.....LMFAO
A man from California invented a car run on water years. He mysteriously met with an accident a few weeks later and died......
How are they in minus temperatures?
Well, pure water freezes quickly in sub-zero (f) temps. So, you will also need to keep the water warm at all times, like when you're not driving in the winter. The bottom line is far more energy going into the system than you can get out of this system to make it work. Pure pipe dream.
The same way they are in any other temp,... nonexistent and pure fantasy.
This was available 20 years ago in Switzerland but the designer was blocked by the motor industries . I went to the presentation of a water powered car in Geneva over 20 years ago
Or it simply didn't work. You might have noticed that petrol alternatives that actually do work are somehow mysteriously never blocked by the petrol industry. The "motor" industry? This is actually coming from one of the main players in the "automotive" industry. They want you buy cars. They don't much care what fuels you use as long as they can sell one using that fuel.
The BIG if here, is doing electrolysis on board. If that can reliably done, then this maybe the game changer that humans have long sought. Water is a lot more plentiful, than even petrol. Also a lot less likely to ignite too.
The other "Big If" is the oil industry. This would devastate a large part of it's business. I think I read that about 30% of oil is used for fuel. That's many billions of dollars they won't give up easily.
The big IF here is how they get around the laws of thermodynamics - takes same or more energy to split the water as is yielded from burning the H2
@@1967davethewave It's not their call, and they're not more powerful than Big Automotive. If they had the ability to block non-petroleum cars, they'd have stopped electrical and ethanol powered vehicles long ago.
@@DaveHaynie That could be true but the question I have for you is are you the reason I was almost extradited to some podunk town I've never heard of in Missouri in 1995 for a warrant?
Actually, all you have to do is keep reversing the polarity of your electrolysis plates and literally shake the water molecule apart at it's resonate frequency. It requires 1/3 the power of normal electrolysis.
Great news for drought striken areas. If a vehicle breakdown occurs in desert, you can drink radiator
water to survive. 😊
Wow that's not just sustainable, it's the perpetual motion motor dream. Do they use some of the engine's power to produce the electricity that's needed to make the hydrogen from the water or is there another magic generator that does that? If so what does it use for fuel?
Great questions but unfortunately no answers. That is because perpetual motion is as real as unicorns.
* Bi-polar auto electrolytic hydrogen generator, patent 1992 US5089107A
An autoelectrolytic hydrogen generator system constituted by one or a plurality of similar cells wherein a galvanic arrangement of magnesium and aluminum plates of sacrificial elements as anode; stainless steel as cathode and sea water as electrolyte, by its very nature is made to develop a voltage when connected in short circuit causing a current to flow within the system and hydrogen production of hydrogen in situ and on demand by the electrolytic action at one pole, the cathode, and additional hydrogen by the electrochemical reaction at the other pole, the anode. Surplus electric energy of the system applied to a optional electrolyzer will also be made to produce additional hydrogen at its two sacrificial aluminum electrodes.
@@reverendgoodthrustesq.6875 That sounds like fun but it isn’t the engine that this vague video is hinting at. The engine you mention would probably work somewhat but it doesn’t sound suitable for a car to me, I doubt that it would produce enough power. Real seawater is full of all kinds of stuff which would clog the thing up and those sacrificial plates are going to need replacing regularly. I expect such problems are the reason why you can’t buy one.
@@majordendrocopos * In 1942, U.S. Vice President, Henry Wallace, while on a Good Will Tour of South America, saw the Pacheco generator run an automobile engine and shortly thereafter, the president of Bolivia, General Enrique Penaranda, observed the same phenomena. Both men encouraged Francisco to bring his invention to the United States.
In 1943, Francisco arrived in the U.S. with a letter addressed to the Chief Military Intelligence Service of the United States War Department from Colonel Clarence Barnett, the military attache to the American Embassy, introducing Francisco and requesting an audience to see his invention. At that time, it was believed that the hydrogen generator might be helpful to the U.S. war efforts. In April of that year, Mr. Pacheco successfully demonstrated his generator to the Bureau of Standards in Washington DC and applied for a U.S. patent Bi-polar auto electrolytic hydrogen generator US5089107A.
@@majordendrocopos > In 1942, U.S. Vice President, Henry Wallace, while on a Good Will Tour of South America, saw *the Pacheco generator run an automobile engine* and shortly thereafter, the president of Bolivia, General Enrique Penaranda, observed the same phenomena. Both men encouraged Francisco to bring his invention to the United States.
In 1943, Francisco arrived in the U.S. with a letter addressed to the Chief Military Intelligence Service of the United States War Department from Colonel Clarence Barnett, the military attache to the American Embassy, introducing Francisco and requesting an audience to see his invention. At that time, it was believed that the hydrogen generator might be helpful to the U.S. war efforts. In April of that year, Mr. Pacheco successfully demonstrated his generator to the Bureau of Standards in Washington DC and applied for a U.S. patent Bi-polar auto electrolytic hydrogen generator US5089107A.
You could use a battery to run an electric motor, connect the motor to a generator which is used to charge the battery and the extra power could drive the vehicle. Same principle as using electricity to extract hydrogen from water, re-unite the hydrogen with water producing energy to keep the processw going and produce extra power. Not possible!
You are yet another ignoramus.
You almost have it...but you must add an atmospheric water generator that captures water, co2 and toxins from the atmosphere. Who will be the first car maker that saved the world? will it be Honda or Toyota? Or perhaps another auto maker. You might want to add a solar panel roof and hefty battery to assist in running the water (Fuel) capture device. I believe it can be accomplished if there are still good and honorable people left in the world...🙏
Water is not a fuel. Hydrogen can be made from water, using lots of electricity, then burned at low efficiency. FAIL
If you yourself aren't actively working on it, does that make you not good and honorable?
Judge not. Lest ye be judged.
@@chrismuller2780 You tell me...
@jamesvandamme7786 Wrong...as you know technology is always advancing. Splitting water can be done more efficiently now.
@@cruiserland3309 Unfortunately there is no process that can split water into hydrogen and oxygen without using more energy than is contained within the hydrogen produced. This is not because we just need to find a new process ... it's because of the known laws of physics I'm afraid.
Did anyone else burst out laughing when they first mentioned distilled water and then the video-at the exact same frame-showed some fella taking a mouthful of water from a hose?
There was a man back in the mid 60’s that developed one but mysteriously disappeared when he filed for patent. It showed 35 miles per gallon. Had an uncle that bought a used Oldsmobile with 350 four barrel he was tickled to death with the car it ran great got 35 mpg one day feds showed up to his house pulled his carburetor put a new one on he sold the car two weeks later because only got 7 mpg
How high voltage is generated?
A coil, like the old cars that had points and condenser
The information that I've heard about Stanley Meyers is that on the day of his death he was at a restaurant with Belgian businessmen who expressed interest in investing in a factory to produce his technology. One of them was a member of NATO. Since the entire global economy is based on the petrodollar, this technology, if valid, could destabilize the worlds economy. It would also allow armies to power their tanks with water, ridding themselves of a major supply chain problem. I saw a video of Stanley's niece who corroborated what we've been told of his death. I think that all this makes it likely that he had actually achieved a breakthrough in the process of cracking hydrogen and oxygen from water. It is well known that electrolysis is a very inefficient way to separate water from hydrogen. Meyers never revealed his proprietary processes, but hinted that they have to do with the resonant frequency of water. I imagine that you could approach this using electric pulses, radio waves, laser, and maybe some other methods. There was a time when the "experts" said that heavier than air flight was impossible, until the Wright brothers demonstrated what the law of lift could do.
You missed the part where it said it had to use DISTILLED WATER.
"...you could approach this using electric pulses, radio waves, laser...". All of which are generated using energy, and contain energy. So instead of electroloysis you use something else to split the water - but the overall energy requirement to do so is ultimately the same.
I've researched Meyers patents and they are utter rubbish. None of his patents actually detail any real processes, they are vague and technically childish - basically nothing worth patenting. Meyer disciples will say he did this so that his patents could not be copied, but the whole idea of patents is that no one can copy your design. But his patents are so basic that no one would need to copy any of his patents as there is nothing of any value in them. Personally I think he was trying to patent his ideas, and very broadly, hoping that he could get investors to buy into something he would 'hopefully' eventually achieve. I don't think he ever had a working 'water car' as we think of it. I've also seen some of his short lectures. He has no understanding of science, no answers to any legitimate questions, and gave me the impression that he did not actually have a clue what he was talking about - he was just blagging it. His motto was KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid), which I think suited him to a tee. From everything I've researched on Meyer I believe he, along with his water car, was a fraud.
That's just a silly conspiracy theory. Meyer was at dinner with his brother, and he died of a brain aneurism. The perpetual motion machine he tried to sell had investors going for two years. It never worked, and they sued him -- and won. He was a scam artist, not an inventor.
What provides the electricity for the electrolysis?
a battery. It's an EV. lol
what provides the energy for a hybrid ? self generating system.
A battery, but closer to a normal car battery rather than an EV or even a hybrid battery. It would have an alternator to charge the battery. Eventually would need a new battery as do gasoline combustion engines.
@@davidreusser7816 No... where do you people get these ideas. Toyota has block diagrams of this. They're using a big EV battery. It's going to take a larger battery stack to power this than a conventional EV, because it's less efficient. I do hope they either abandon it or publish some actual papers on the technology. It seems to be pointless.
I can imagine people going to prison for illegally distilling rain water one day in the future.
I hope he doesn't get eliminated as well
Imagine making your own fuel with a ZeroWater filter
As an EV owner, they have lots of inherent problems. You don't have to keep rehashing this perpetual energy lie to bring those issues to light.
Sound like an car salesman. Do not worry you will find another job.
The engine still needs oil, will be highly complex, and not remotely as efficient as an ev.
But think of the required overprice car dealership repair departments this tech development will enable! Fantastic!
Excellent...The mechanic can Brew up while working on your car
Can you imagine what governments would do if they lost the ability to tax fuel?
What a feeling Toyota Bravo turn this planet green again and equal
If they start building engines that use water as fuel, we're screwed.
Water would end up costing us a fortune!!!
Could you even imagine that?!
If something sounds too good to be true it usually is.But if this is feasible,then it would be the greatest advance in technology since the invention of the wheel.
Get back to me when these vehicles are in mass production, I'm not holding my breath :)
This is the best solution. Forget expensive batteries.
Pretty sure they killed the guy who did the hydro car 🤷♂️
I remember a guy in the past. A car with water engine is not a new concept
That engine is just a wet dream right now.
A gentleman on the Gold Coast Queensland Aust.
Invented this type of engine over twenty years ago and the Government of the day wanted to back him financially but the public were up in arms as they claimed it was a waste of time and money. Wish that Premier (Joe Beljeky Peterson was here here today to hear this suggestion from Toyota. Runners where that plans were sold to an oil company.
There is one of these new engines that revolutionise the auto industry, almost every week.
And where does the high voltage come from?
A battery? - then why not use the electricity directly with much less losses?
There is one option which mainstream economics does not want to entertain. The cost of domestic electricity required as input energy for electrolysers, is the sole limiting factor. Electrolysers do not require expensive domestic electricity. Inexpensive non-domestic electricity can be easily sourced from irregular environmental sources such as wind and solar, which is available in all corners of the planet.
When can we expect this water powered engine? Can’t wait ❤
4:40 distilling water isn't chemistry. It's physics. There's no chemical reaction. Only thing closest thing to chemistry is that the process of distilling can be used to separate materials in a chemistry lab.
This tech has been around for many decades. I know a few who have built this type of system, one being my brother and have heard of many more. The main problem with these relatively simple conversions for the market has always been opposition from big business and government with some even having their lives threatened.
A 'water engine' featured in the UK press and on BBC TV in the 1960's, with a bog-standard mini as the 'converted' example apparently running very nicely. Then it disappeared. Strange.
The Koch Brothers are not going to like this
What powers the electrolysis process? Wouldn't it be far more efficient and less complicated to use the electricity to turn the wheels rather than electrolyse water to produce hydrogen to fuel a combustion engine to spin the wheels?
They talked about isolating the hydrogen from the oxygen. If they just did an intake delete and just had the injector and exhaust they'd be able to make it happen without having to separate. Just run the normal electrolysis through with no intake. H & O would remain separate until ignited.
The only problem is that the water fuel would be in direct competition with ourselves for life and sustainment against thirst.
I'm still getting my head around the term "Diluted water"