Thanks Andrew for your extremely helpful video. Your instructions enabled me to give life to a PS4 that would otherwise have been chucked out and wasted. Anticipating that I'd probably screw it up, I bought 3 of these modules to have a go at fixing a bluetooth controller non-sync issue on by PS4 model CUH-12XX. After many days and countless hours spent at this I managed to destroy 2 of the chips in the process of trying to reflow them to the motherboard (I am a soldering noob) but I struck lucky on the third attempt. I just used a heat gun at 480 degrees as Andrew described, I don't own a PCB preheater. Tip - for anyone attempting this using a heat gun use good quality solder - I had major issues getting the solder to flow properly once the chip was in place, which I think was down to using cheap solder. Make sure the solder balls on each pad on the chip are evenly sized and that there is no excess solder on any of the pads - this also will cause issues if the amounts on the pads are uneven .Use plenty of flux, and make sure that the chip is firmly sat down onto the motherboard on all sides after applying heat - if you can see any space between the chip and the board, don't be tempted to chance it and power it up to check if it works - it won't. Believe me. Also, if you make a mistake and need to take the chip off again be VERY careful when removing it not to move the top metal plate. This is soldered on top of the chip and moving it while hot will dislodge the transistors inside the chip and create a hopeless mess, rendering it useless. Again, believe me, this happened. Have patience and faith and if it doesn't work after a few attempts, keep trying! Getting this to work was the most satisfying electronic fix I've ever experienced. The learning process was most valuable.
Yeah? Is it still going? Mine has shit the bed. Replaced both antennas so I know it's the module. Tempted to give that a try before dropping £70 on getting it fixed.
u didnt replaced the chip? i have the same problem a store can give me the chip for 20 euro should i buy it? brand new. i tested everything what equipent do i need to replace the chip?
Great video tutorial. I've just picked up a PS4 + controller for €90,- with the no sync issue. All standard troubleshooting failed. So I guess the only option left for me is to try to replace the BT/WIFI chip myself.
+Ben Mant Significantly so I'd suggest from the outset - hopefully all will become clear before too long. I'm not entirely sure myself yet just how much work is going to have to go into this one but on the surface it's certainly not going to be straight forwards.
another brilliant video. I think that in safe mode ps4 only uses usb connection to controller and not blue tooth because it is a minimal function mode. so the wireless is not essential for the ps4 to run in safe mode for debugging system software reinstall etc. - in reference to question at 9'00'' in the vid. but I am guessing tbh.
My controller only turns on in safe mode. The homebutton works because i tried it on my phone and laptop. I dont know what to do, is the circuit board broken?
That means I think there is a faulty controller chip and or bluetooth on the controller pcb(motherboard)or of course a fault on the controller motherboard. I got the same problem - but weirdly both ones that dont connect at all both connect to pc using ds4 programme and a usb lead - although neither connect via blue tooth - or go into bluetooth establish connection mode when you press share and PS button simultaneously. this is an old post but does your one go into connection mode when share and ps pressed together? this is as far as I can get in understanding what the problem is, but its obviously something on the motherboard that fails after time either the black ARM controller chip on the silver wireless bluetooth chip. I was also looking at acid mods for discussion and problem resolution but no luck.
@@ayman4307 yeah I think the motherboards develop faults after time not sure which components on the board go might be the arm controller chip or the bluetooth chip.
Is there a way of diagnosing whether it is the WiFi Bluetooth antenna, module or a result of flash corruption without just trying the different fixes? For example, if the controller works in safe mode, does this rule out the possibility of flash corruption? I am having the exact same issue as you - controller works in safe mode but not in OS mode and have tried every possible solution before resorting to hardware stuff. Initially WiFi was the problem, then a few days later controllers stopped connecting. Do you think it would be worth by first trying to replace the antenna? I would prefer to try replacing the antenna first because it's probably simplest and cheapest; replacing the module and dealing with flash corruption seems more complicated with a higher risk of messing it up.
I have exactly the same issue with the controller (works in safe mode but does not connect normally), but also when trying to update the System Software I get and error SU-41238-8 . Are the two things related? Should I try any different troubleshooting before replacing the bluetooth chip?
Can you tell me which BGA rework station you use for preheating? Also if it's expensive can you suggest any cheaper alternatives that might work for this job? I have a good Weller Hot air station but i'm guessing that won't be hot enough without preheating.
Hello andrew is the ps3 , ps4 wifi/Bluetooth modules the same? I got ps3 super slim with faulty module Rev1.1 and i also got another ps3 slim with Bluetooth module Rev1.1 aswell ps4 also Rev1.1
Hey Andrew, I know this is a bit late regarding this video. I have a ps4 that I utilized the Nor-Flash videos you described and completed all the steps with the corruption. I found it wasn't corrupted so I ordered the wifi chip and in the process of installing it. My question is what range of heat should I be in prior to heating chip with air station? I purchased a reballing machine and would like to try to replace the wifi chip.
Nice video mate! I have a question. Was the chip faulty or was it a thermal paste/solder problem? I ask that because if i can just reset the chip, I don't have to wait 3 weeks for a replacement from China! :)
Hello andrew, at what temperature do you set your preheater to un solder the original BT controller please ? What about for the top air flow temperature ? I understood 185°C to solder back the working BT controller but 185 is not enough to take the original off
Thanks for the info. I’ve taken my PS4 apart today and got the motherboard. Do you provide a service to fit these chips by any chance. Don’t think it’s financially viable for me to buy The pre heater just for one. Feel free to drop me an email at mjim515@gmail.com thanks
@@haarisaslam3666 it's definitely this Bluetooth module that's messed up trust me. I tried to work around it by replacing the antenna and shit but in the end this is what needed to be replaced. It's not too hard if you have patience and a little confidence.
@@BDChupacabra I just ended up doing that. Time to replace the bluetooth module now. Did LAN for internet connection seem to fix it in the meantime? That's working for me.
Hey, I just saw a couple of your videos and you just doing so well, it seems an easy job for everyone. I have a PS4 with connectivity problem, it is the controller IC or something around it? It connect to WiFi and able to connect the controller, but randomly drop off, disconnect both and the controller respond with a little delay too. Thanks
Both utilise separate antennae - WiFi is inbuilt into the motherboard, controllers are via the front fly-lead so if both are dropping out I'd recommend replacing the module. Just ensure that you're within good range of your wireless router. If you are, then that'll be the issue.
hey brother do you have the pinout,or schematics for this? I can not finf the pinout or block diagram on this ps3 bluetooth module and i really need it for a project with my Robotics and its driving me nuts. any help would be highly greatful. thanks and great vid my friend!!!
Awesome video really informative Can i ask a question I have a rev 2.0 IC 409B-M16DAM2 but I cant find the same one online can I just buy a different one or it have to be the same?
@@AndrewPaul Thanks you so much for answering me but I didn't quiet understand(sorry new on this) does it means I can buy any Rev but it had to be the same IC Code or If I were to find a replacement for my 409B-M16DAM2 can I just buy any Bluetooth module for a slim and it will fits?(sorry to brother I can't get to find any tutorial that specify how to get the right module or part).
I was wondering if you could help with this one! I have tried everything, even buying a new USB to Micro USB adapter and nothing worked. I believe it has something to do with the Bluetooth connection. My PS4 has the same symptoms like this one, and I even updated it. It did work after the update, but the PS4 then slowly started to break. Every time I opened a menu in the settings, it blocked the ability to open that one. I then reset the PS4, then the controller was no longer connected. Thanks for reading! Hopefully, you could help, because I just bought Elden Ring, and don’t want to return it.
What are you using to put the chip back in place? is it some kind of glue? Also, do you need to solder all the induvidial "pins" or can you just replace is with a new one from Ebay straight away?
No glue - paste is called flux which is used to aid the soldering process. You solder it back in place with a bottom heater and hot air from the top to reflow the solder beneath the new module. If the ones from eBay come pre-balled then you should be able to straight install them otherwise you'll need to do as per the video and ball them yourself before refitting the new module.
Hello, what a well made video you've made here. My only problem is that i don't have such devices and wouldn't be able to handle such machinery myself. I own 3 controllers and have recently downloaded an app called ds4 windows which lets you use your ps4 controller on pc. A little time passed and this same issue occured to me, but the controllers charge fine but just won't pair at all. I also only used 2 controllers with this application, the third controller was never used with the pc and still doesnt pair with my ps4. I took it to the retailer after 2 months of trying stuff out (it was unplugged for a month) and he just connected his control and it worked fine, and when i went home even my controllers worked fine. now 20 days have passed and the ezact same issue re occured. Do you have any suggestion what the issue is and how it can be solved with non-tech measures (as in without touching the motherboard)? Heres a list of 'trying stuff out' : reset button, different usb cables, taking out power supply while ps4 is still on and on rest mode, using the controller without a battery but with a usb cable which still didnt work. Id really appreciate any suggestions, thank you.
Great video! Need some help thou, my ps4 is a CUH 1215a and a friend got a CUH 1011a with no video output to donate the part. Are they compatible??? I got to open my PS4 to check the module but not yet the donnor. Thanks in advance for your kind help!
Ive got the same issue. The ps4 didn’t connect to wifi or the controllers wirelessly but did connect if I used a usb cable. I reset the console to factory settings and I cannot get past the setup screen where it asks to press the ps button. If I put the console into safe mode the controller works fine. I disassembled the ps4 and everything looked fine including the antenna. After a bit of research it suggests either the wifi chip or the antenna is damaged but I believe it will be the wireless chip. The console model is a CUH-1216 but I can’t seem to find any chips for this model? Any ideas? Much appreciated
Hi ! I saw your video and I'm really excited to try to repair my ps4. I just had a question : can i "fix" the module on the motherboard just by using a heat gun ? Without using your red dot machine ? Thank you for your video
Great video. I too have the same issue where my 2nd controller can connect to the console initially but always disconnects after a certain time(few minutes). The original controller seems to have normal connectivity otherwise! Any advice would be appreciated. Max
My firmware wont update i tried hardwired and with usb. Same issue controllers wont sync. Do you think once i replace that Bluetooth module it may update?
There is a regulator for the wifi supplying with 1,8v which causing voltage variations and sometimes shortcircuit damage of the module leading to a dead machine since the power supply is overcurrent latched.But i dont know why ps game goes to update state since i have never played games,my only interresting is for hardware.
Hi I'm in Manchester I have 64 faulty consoles some have hdmi problem and some have the same problem as you shown in the video I see your from brighouse looking from your ebay...how could I contact yourself direct maybe we can come to some sort of deal
I need help :( when my headphones are plugged into the controller, the audio cuts out on and off a lot and then I lose control over the remote for a second before it snaps back into my control. I tried different controllers and different headphones so I'm thinking the problem is the Bluetooth chip
:SARU: : dude idk what happened but it randomly just stopped after a few weeks. it was so annoying but i just stopped playing online and without headphones. but now it's all working fine
Hi Andrew, I have a question about a PS4 (CUH-1216A) with bluetooth module problems. Checked NOR chip and there was no corruption. I reballed the bluetooth module before (DHSM-PS97), but the problem return after a short time. So the bluetooth module needs replacement, but I only have the reballed modules AW-NB218 version 1.0 , 1.1 and 1.2. Can the module just be replaced and if yes, which version is the best to take ?
Hi, Yes since v4.0 they've thankfully been interchangeable between the DHSM and AW-NB218 modules. To be honest I don't think there's much between the AW-NB218 modules but I'd say the later the revision you can get the better.
Thanks ! Also found this link : bgamods.com/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=5166&sid=96c787170f399b6b3d1ea60478e6ec09&start=80 with : Ok I dumped all 3 boards I had lying around. All scrap boards so I don't know which system update they are running (they will all be 3.15 or higher). AW-NB218 Rev 1.1 - Size: 434,871 bytes AW-NB218 Rev 1.2 - Size: 431,614 bytes DHSM-PS97 - Size: 431,614 bytes - Identical to AW-NB218 Rev 1.2 Just installed the 1.2 version, mobo is cooling down now on my rework machine.
Yeah that's from the days prior to v4.0 and is the reason they couldn't be interchanged (even AW-NB218s of differing revisions), because the different section sizes would upset the SLB2 container if modified / changed in any way.
Aha, just replaced the DHSM by AW-NB218 rev. 1.2 and it works :-) Do you use a hot air station or your rework station, to desolder/solder the bluetooth modules ?
Can I ask how do I am able to identify which module I have to use for my ps4 or I can just use any I got a CUH-2115B ps4 slim It has this problem for over a year because I don't know which module to buy for it.
im looking at a ps4 for someone soon, says the controller isnt functioning properly when connected but all other pads hes tried are the same. id think it was bt board so gonna attempt a reflow. do you think its still doable without the rework station? i have a at85o hot air station and plenty of flux so im hoping so. im a livingroom repairman and dont have all your setup unfortunately :(
i screwed up and am missing the bottom left pad on the mobo. could you tell me which component that pad is connected to or know where I can get a schematic for the model ps4 you have in ur video
I'm getting the su-41283-8 code, is there any way to fix this? Also, if you have a data corruption, does that render this process useless, or will a new wifi module fix the problem?
Okay, thanks for the video, I just had no problem with xbox one and 360 wifi card removal, but this is confusing. The wired controllers were installed and Ethernet, but rf was still being emitted from the units. I do not use a cellphone because wireless rf causes health problems over time. I bet the ps4 is the same case and needs to be separated from the wireless chip in order to stop emitting radio waves.
Awesome video i got a question i got the Bluetooth WiFi module model J20H091 rev 1.0 do you know where i can buy a replacement for that Module please let me know if you know thank you
One for a PS4 Pro? Found a few results on Google for the part number. They'll be fairly rare but there's an eBay listing in the states for $29.99 - I don't think the revision matters much these days - Sony simplified things in v4.x firmware thankfully.
Hi there great video , I've re soldered the antennae wires and will work for about 2-3 minutes then controllers lag out and disconnect I've changed the batteries and I had the HDMI port resoldered on had problems since then. Bad Bluetooth chip ?
I have cuh1216a and controller works in safe mode but can't get past first blue screen with PS button(tried few microusb cables)...i can turn on console from 5m from console...is this NOR chip or BT chip fault?
Ps4 slim can you replace the WiFi module from ps4 slim for any what is for ps4 slim or need to be specific one ( does it need to be same as the original one or just could be any what for ps4 slim )
Hey I have a question, can I extract the Bluetooth module from an original PS4 and put it on a PS4 slim or are they different and not compatible?? Please reply. 😄
@@AndrewPaul ugh darn, I have 2 original model donor boards but none for the slim. Instead of removing the whole module would I be able to just remove the plate and maybe change the chip underneath or something instead??
Sadly not, you'll need a module for an SAD-based board - there's nothing you can do with the older modules to get the one going that's on the newer board.
@@AndrewPaul SAD standing for?? But ugh thanks, I’ll have to order one tomorrow then. I’m still so new to this, only been a few weeks, sorry for all the questions lol and thanks again!! 😄
Hello good sir, Mines has the same problem. First i replaced the hdd. After i installed the OS it says an error has occured (SU-41283-8). Then i put back the original hdd and got the same error SU-41283-8. Will it fix if i change thr wifi module?
I have the same problem. However the Bluetooth works ONLY when I am close to the PlayStation. Once I get too far, it loses connection to the controller. Since it does work, up to a point could it be it may need some cleaning.or do I need to change the entire part like you did???
+Andrew Paul I have it is plugged in properly, the metal bracket is dented in and the outside black case is semi cracked. It must have been dropped. The soldering at the wire and the metal bracket seems to be ok but I will give it a shot at re soldering it. I'll let u know how it goes.
I have the exact same problem you described after my console fell on the floor. Im gonna try to re solder it tomorrow and I'll let you know what happened.
Hi Andrew, appreciate your channel its quite detailed. I have the same error with my PS4 stuck in a loop SU-41283-8. I flashed the nor chip by using your guide but unfortunately without luck. Then I replaced the bluetooth module with a new one and it still doesn't work. Any ideas what to do?
Do you have the original dump you took before it was edited lying around anywhere? You can send it to me at ytandrewpaul@outlook.com and I'll happily verify the dump for you then we can ascertain that the issue is definitely module related.
My controllers have the exact same problem as you showed in the beginning of the video (they work fine in other devices though). They will only connect sporadically, and sometimes I can get past the "press the PS button" for a few seconds before they disconnect again. My console connects to wifi just fine, so I am a little skeptical if I have to replace the entire module. Have you run through this problem before? Thanks!
+Gustavo Marques Hobold Check your antenna cable is properly connected and that there's no tears in the lead. It plugs into a BNC connector underneath the PSU.
+Andrew Paul thanks! will do that, but I suspect that's not the problem. I used a Bluetooth signal detector and it seems like it can detect the console even from a reasonable distance. It seems to me that this may be a software issue, but I've initialized the software several times and nothing... will check the antenna though
Hi can you help me I'm being hacked by bluetooth and wifi if I remove my bluetooth and wifi. Hip or antenna will it still work with wired and ethernet same for dual shock were is the blue tooth located? Sos
You should always check the firmware first as it's quicker, easier and much kinder on the hardware. Afterall, there's no point in replacing a module requiring some fairly major surgery if the module itself isn't faulty. Sadly there's no outwards way to check - you just have to follow the procedure to arrive at the eventual solution.
Man I've just hit the top of my graphics card with a heat gun, insulating the rest of the circuit board. Sustained 220 degree C on the top of a card will melt the solder underneath with no removal required. It is a cheap fix tho, prone to breaking again. Still, perhaps try this before going through all the trouble of repairing ball solder. I'm very jealous of this guy's skill. I have fallen in love with repairing my clearly defective PS4. I've repaired almost every problem imaginable at this point. I think I have an antenna problem rn. Either that or wireless chip =/
My PS4 when starting in safe mode does not recognizes the controls vía USB cable. What problem could it be.? I can't start in normal mode because the HDD is new and always the PS4 it start in safe mode.
Andrew Paul thank you for answered. How can I desolder (i'm sorry for the probably mistake) this and where can I find the material in Reunion Island please
To remove it you can use either a BGA Rework station, or as I do - a bottom pre-heating plate (I just use the bottom heater of the Jovy RE-8500 for this purpose) and hot air. You'll struggle to remove it without the bottom heat applied as it's heavily tied to ground which pulls a lot of heat away into the board. The ICs themselves can be had on eBay / AliExpress or removed from a donor board. I'm going to look to stock these parts on my webshop when I get it up and running in the near future.
Hi, I have a question My bluetooth module doesn't work well anymore so I'll probably have to replace it. Now I've heard about this 'Cronusmax plus', where you can use different types of controllers on your ps4, it comes with its own bluetooth. Would this fix my issue? Also, as you said in the video: in safe mode it uses usb for the controller and in normal mode it uses the bluetooth module. Is there a way to use the usb in normal mode? Thanks in advance for your reply!
Help! I opened up my ps4 pro for dust removal and after putting it back togehter my controller ist acting really messed up (spinning or not reacting at all) what can i do?!?
Hi. My DS4 doesn't sync or connect with the PS4 when I start it up normally, but it does work when I boot the PS4 on safe mode with the USB connected. My second controller doesn't have any connectivity issues and works fine wirelessly on normal mode. Do you know what might be the issue? My broken controller works fine with a USB cable on my PC and PS3.
so my ps4 controllers won't sync with my ps4, they're stuck in Bluetooth mode. The reset button did NOTHING. I tried using the USB cable to connect controller to system but nothing. I tried safe mode and nothing worked... So if I did what you did in this video would it be fixed?
Sounds like a USB IC failure - there's a video for that on my channel. You'll be replacing the GL3520 IC most likely to resolve that - it's a fairly common issue.
@@AndrewPaul Does not see the gamepad in safe mode, replacing the GL3520 IC and the southern bridge did not solve the problem! Please help me find the problem!!! Thank you in advance :)
Do you repair ds4 controllers? Think mine got corrupted won't star up with PS button neither USB cable. Has no white light just orange when charging , I have other controller and everything is fine. I'm from Portugal is it to expensive to get it repair in your hands in uk?
Have you charged your controller via phone-chargers? that can burn some circuits inside the controller, you buy a new board and a "wire" from ebay and you can repair it.
On the RE-8500 manual control I have the heaters set to 100%. Monitor temps top side with a K-probe - anything around 218-225C should see the module lift. Wand is at 490C @ 100l/min.
mine was working perfectly fine last night. I really don't want to think that the bluetooths dead cause I just got the console used yesterday and it was working it only stopped when I went to far away from my ps4 when plugged in and it just lost connection. so I'm thinking it's just the controller.
a query how do I find out what chip model a ps4 slim model cuh-2015a needs because the one it had on the metal sheet was erased and the ic is a 88W8897-NMJ2 and the truth is I don't know which one to replace I can't find any reference If it will be the j20h091, the AW-NB218 or AWCB262, if anyone knows which is the one that handles the aforementioned ic, please help me.
Hi Andrew, great video. Very helpful and informative. I don't suppose you could offer me some advise?!?! I have now replaced the Bluetooth module 3 times, and the controllers still won't sync :-( Pulling my hair out now ..... well what's left of it!!!
+Ben Mant Hi mate. It's a flash corruption issue in instances where rework of the BT/WiFi module is ineffective. This is very difficult to repair however I will be doing some work on this over the coming weeks and videos will of course be uploaded. Cheers.
finally found someone with same problem as me. however i didnt manage to find a replacement chip anywhere on the internet cept wholesale vendor that wont sell just one to me. i would like to know what site u went to and tools used thank you. btw seems the mic didnt catch all the words you said on the video. sensitivity perhaps
+kotd009 Hi, I lifted mine from a scrap donor board I had in my possession. Tools were a hot air station, de-solder braid, leaded solder and a soldering iron as seen in the video. The mic has been playing up recently - that'll hopefully be sorted from this point forwards :-)
Hi! Great video! I have few questions: I CAN'T in no way desolder my old module. I've got the newer version of the mobo (cuh12xx) and slightly different chip. Reflowing it keeps console up and running either to first reset or connecting to a wifi (then it freezes almost instantly and bluetooth stops working aswell). It's a faulty wifi part of the module for sure. I've tried to reball it and then, if it doesn' work putting in a new one but I CAN'T desolder it no matter how high I crank up the temp (heated from both sides OFC) It just won't budge. Nothing. Nil. Ive tested my setup on another BGA and it popped off as it should. This one - not a chance. I would gladly take any suggestions as to how to take it off without destroying the mobo and optionally the module itself since I don't need wifi and bluetooth works just fine (and those modules are expensive here). I should add that the gap between the module and the mobo is virtually non existent.
What setup are you using to remove the module, i.e. Hot air wand / BGA Machine / preheater make/model etc? These modules are located across a large ground region and will take a lot of 'oomph' to get it off. Anything other than some high-end equipment will most likely struggle. Curiosly though, has it had a liquid spill beneath the IC because it can make getting them off a living hell and are you using a quality flux paste to aid removal?
Some cheapo "noname" air wand with air add. heating from underneath using diy preheater (with proper power modulator and thermal sensor) and flux paste (i've lost the lid of the current one so I can't give you a brand name) that is a generic brand aswell but worked beautifly for me to this point and I had zero problems with desoldering BGA's from PC motherboards with zero damage/overheating or any trouble whatsoever. I'm not a pro, I've collected mostly DIY stuff that only works precisely enough to the point of not destroying elements and not warping PCB's and it worked on everything to this point with zero problems (and temp limit is not the problem since I can purely theoretically crank it up to almost 600 degrees celsuis). Few months ago I reworked xbox APU in no time with zero problems and it holds strong. this damn thing though....this particular PS4 is a "hobby project" of mine that I insisted on reviving from absloutely murdered state instead of throwing it out. I've got it for free but it's a matter of honour now, not money :D I've fixed every single thing in it to the point it works flawlesly even under high load (tested on "one reset cycle" without wifi) except the damn wifi/bt module. I'm trying not to give up on it because of such a simple fix but I feel I have no other choice. Replacing the whole mobo is a official personal fail in this case IMO :) Even with proper air streaming the first thing that gave up was the upper shielding of the chip from heat transfer across the pcb and hot air spill and main solder points hold on like they wre glued in place with something fireproof. Not even a light wobble on the corners. The melting point is surely reached since every attempt causes an "accidental reflow" that allows to turn it on and use a controller for some time.
I have a PS4 with this kind of problem. Wiif/bt module on that ps4 is J20H071. At the moment i have a board with CO-E53195W module on it, Both boards are from 1116A consoles. Are these wifi/bt modules swapable, will CO-E53195W fit in J20H071 place?
Either a scrap SAC-001 board or somewhere like eBay / AliExpress etc. Make sure you get the same type card / revision number as your existing WiFi module otherwise your machine may not boot.
It will - just make sure the WiFi board is the same type / model and revision as yours currently as they are not interchangeable on the 12xx series PS4.
hi Andrew, the bluetooth module on the cuh-12XX are they interchangeable?. The DHSM-PS97 from CUH-1216B has gone bad, can i use AW-NB218-2-22180-B1H instead? i've already verified not nor firmware issue. thanks
Hi mate, To be honest since v4.0 I'm not sure. Pre-4.0 you couldn't - interchanging modules would cause BLOD. I believe 4.0 used identical C020001 containers - never tried a swap to be honest as not had any in to do so not sure if that would still be the case. I believe they all have the same footprint so should theoretically fit. I've not even looked at any 4.50+ dumps at all as yet but intend to as I need to update the tutorial vids. For now all I can suggest is to try it and see mate. :-)
Good to know mate thank you. Another issue it looks like Sony got sick of ha ha! Could never understand why they locked the modules down to a specific type/revision initially on the 1200.
Thanks Andrew for your extremely helpful video. Your instructions enabled me to give life to a PS4 that would otherwise have been chucked out and wasted. Anticipating that I'd probably screw it up, I bought 3 of these modules to have a go at fixing a bluetooth controller non-sync issue on by PS4 model CUH-12XX. After many days and countless hours spent at this I managed to destroy 2 of the chips in the process of trying to reflow them to the motherboard (I am a soldering noob) but I struck lucky on the third attempt. I just used a heat gun at 480 degrees as Andrew described, I don't own a PCB preheater. Tip - for anyone attempting this using a heat gun use good quality solder - I had major issues getting the solder to flow properly once the chip was in place, which I think was down to using cheap solder. Make sure the solder balls on each pad on the chip are evenly sized and that there is no excess solder on any of the pads - this also will cause issues if the amounts on the pads are uneven .Use plenty of flux, and make sure that the chip is firmly sat down onto the motherboard on all sides after applying heat - if you can see any space between the chip and the board, don't be tempted to chance it and power it up to check if it works - it won't. Believe me. Also, if you make a mistake and need to take the chip off again be VERY careful when removing it not to move the top metal plate. This is soldered on top of the chip and moving it while hot will dislodge the transistors inside the chip and create a hopeless mess, rendering it useless. Again, believe me, this happened. Have patience and faith and if it doesn't work after a few attempts, keep trying! Getting this to work was the most satisfying electronic fix I've ever experienced. The learning process was most valuable.
Thank you so much for this! I took it apart and blasted that Bluetooth module with a heat gun for 1 minute and BOOM! It works!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yeah? Is it still going?
Mine has shit the bed.
Replaced both antennas so I know it's the module.
Tempted to give that a try before dropping £70 on getting it fixed.
u didnt replaced the chip? i have the same problem a store can give me the chip for 20 euro should i buy it? brand new. i tested everything what equipent do i need to replace the chip?
Did you just heat the chip and let it cool down ?? Or did you replace it ?
@@salihs9974 nope
Just heat it with a heat gun
Don't post shit like this.This is a temporary solution ( most of the times ) and could damage the board.
Great video tutorial. I've just picked up a PS4 + controller for €90,- with the no sync issue. All standard troubleshooting failed. So I guess the only option left for me is to try to replace the BT/WIFI chip myself.
Thanks, Andrew! Your video was clearly laid out, I really appreciated that this helped me quickly diagnose a CUH-115A that came through the shop
Thanks for your quuck response. Is it harder than replacing the HDMI port? Should I keep the old PS4 motherboards?
Cheers
Ben
+Ben Mant Significantly so I'd suggest from the outset - hopefully all will become clear before too long. I'm not entirely sure myself yet just how much work is going to have to go into this one but on the surface it's certainly not going to be straight forwards.
Hi great video can I ask what temperature you use for your equipment and what sort of flux do you recommend thanks
+john mayo Temp is 485 celcius @ 100L/min airflow. Either Kingbo RMA-218 or Amtech 559 is the way to go flux-wise.
OK mate, suppose i don't have anything to loose. You are a legend, cheers for your time :-)
When putting new chip on, he applied heat for about 1 minute from roughly 21:30 to 22:30. The chip sinks down at 22:00 to 22:01.
Man I must say you know your shit. because of you I was able to repair my PS4 down to component level,
another brilliant video. I think that in safe mode ps4 only uses usb connection to controller and not blue tooth because it is a minimal function mode. so the wireless is not essential for the ps4 to run in safe mode for debugging system software reinstall etc. - in reference to question at 9'00'' in the vid. but I am guessing tbh.
What do you do if the controller won't connect to the console via USB or Bluetooth regardless of being in normal mode or safe mode?
try another cable
@@Mommotexx tried it
My controller only turns on in safe mode. The homebutton works because i tried it on my phone and laptop. I dont know what to do, is the circuit board broken?
That means I think there is a faulty controller chip and or bluetooth on the controller pcb(motherboard)or of course a fault on the controller motherboard. I got the same problem - but weirdly both ones that dont connect at all both connect to pc using ds4 programme and a usb lead - although neither connect via blue tooth - or go into bluetooth establish connection mode when you press share and PS button simultaneously. this is an old post but does your one go into connection mode when share and ps pressed together? this is as far as I can get in understanding what the problem is, but its obviously something on the motherboard that fails after time either the black ARM controller chip on the silver wireless bluetooth chip. I was also looking at acid mods for discussion and problem resolution but no luck.
@@ayman4307 yeah I think the motherboards develop faults after time not sure which components on the board go might be the arm controller chip or the bluetooth chip.
nice job Andrew Love your video's. just got a 1215a in for this issue
I cannot find this part to order anywhere besides 1 site from like China. Any recommendations ?
Is there a way of diagnosing whether it is the WiFi Bluetooth antenna, module or a result of flash corruption without just trying the different fixes? For example, if the controller works in safe mode, does this rule out the possibility of flash corruption?
I am having the exact same issue as you - controller works in safe mode but not in OS mode and have tried every possible solution before resorting to hardware stuff. Initially WiFi was the problem, then a few days later controllers stopped connecting.
Do you think it would be worth by first trying to replace the antenna? I would prefer to try replacing the antenna first because it's probably simplest and cheapest; replacing the module and dealing with flash corruption seems more complicated with a higher risk of messing it up.
I have exactly the same issue with the controller (works in safe mode but does not connect normally), but also when trying to update the System Software I get and error SU-41238-8 . Are the two things related? Should I try any different troubleshooting before replacing the bluetooth chip?
Can you tell me which BGA rework station you use for preheating? Also if it's expensive can you suggest any cheaper alternatives that might work for this job? I have a good Weller Hot air station but i'm guessing that won't be hot enough without preheating.
Hello andrew is the ps3 , ps4 wifi/Bluetooth modules the same? I got ps3 super slim with faulty module Rev1.1 and i also got another ps3 slim with Bluetooth module Rev1.1 aswell ps4 also Rev1.1
Hey Andrew, I know this is a bit late regarding this video. I have a ps4 that I utilized the Nor-Flash videos you described and completed all the steps with the corruption. I found it wasn't corrupted so I ordered the wifi chip and in the process of installing it. My question is what range of heat should I be in prior to heating chip with air station? I purchased a reballing machine and would like to try to replace the wifi chip.
Hello andrew! I have a question for you. I have a ps4 1200 model, but 1 usb port is working and the other not. Any suggestions maybe?
I ordered new module today, will do what you did in this video. Hope it will worl. I'll check in after all work done
Yes let us know how you get on. If it's not a module issue then it could well be a firmware issue. Those tutorials can also be found on the channel.
Nice video mate! I have a question. Was the chip faulty or was it a thermal paste/solder problem? I ask that because if i can just reset the chip, I don't have to wait 3 weeks for a replacement from China! :)
+Mike Wellz sometimes a reflow of the chip will do - nothing to lose by trying :-)
congratulations ! excellent job! the bluetooth you removed is v1.0. if putting a v1.3 would it work?

Did you tried? I got ps4 with rev1.1 i wanna replace it module from ps3 also 1.1 will it works?
Hello andrew, at what temperature do you set your preheater to un solder the original BT controller please ? What about for the top air flow temperature ? I understood 185°C to solder back the working BT controller but 185 is not enough to take the original off
hi m8, great video. So would you recommend not attempting this with just a heatgun?
Indeed - you'll struggle without a pre-heater.
Thanks for the info. I’ve taken my PS4 apart today and got the motherboard. Do you provide a service to fit these chips by any chance. Don’t think it’s financially viable for me to buy The pre heater just for one. Feel free to drop me an email at mjim515@gmail.com thanks
Indeed I do - where are you located?
I’m in Ayrshire Scotland, could post down.
Dam fine hand soldering,was this done for quickness or is there not a srencil available,what's your view on solder paste.
+Nell Nelly There's no stencils available but the pads are pretty huge so lent itself nicely to a bit of hand soldering :-)
my controller wont turn on and when i press the ps button while connected to the system it flashes white then gives out
King David23 same
Same
@@haarisaslam3666 it's definitely this Bluetooth module that's messed up trust me. I tried to work around it by replacing the antenna and shit but in the end this is what needed to be replaced. It's not too hard if you have patience and a little confidence.
BDChupacabra do you know where I can buy this and can I use a heat gun
@@BDChupacabra I just ended up doing that. Time to replace the bluetooth module now. Did LAN for internet connection seem to fix it in the meantime? That's working for me.
Hey, I just saw a couple of your videos and you just doing so well, it seems an easy job for everyone.
I have a PS4 with connectivity problem, it is the controller IC or something around it?
It connect to WiFi and able to connect the controller, but randomly drop off, disconnect both and the controller respond with a little delay too.
Thanks
Both utilise separate antennae - WiFi is inbuilt into the motherboard, controllers are via the front fly-lead so if both are dropping out I'd recommend replacing the module. Just ensure that you're within good range of your wireless router. If you are, then that'll be the issue.
Where did you got bluetooth module from? My ps4 has exact same problem but i can't find its module. Its model number is cuh-1002a
hey brother do you have the pinout,or schematics for this? I can not finf the pinout or block diagram on this ps3 bluetooth module and i really need it for a project with my Robotics and its driving me nuts. any help would be highly greatful. thanks and great vid my friend!!!
Awesome video really informative Can i ask a question I have a rev 2.0 IC 409B-M16DAM2 but I cant find the same one online can I just buy a different one or it have to be the same?
After v4.0 > IIRC you can mix the revisions up.
@@AndrewPaul Thanks you so much for answering me but I didn't quiet understand(sorry new on this) does it means I can buy any Rev but it had to be the same IC Code or If I were to find a replacement for my 409B-M16DAM2 can I just buy any Bluetooth module for a slim and it will fits?(sorry to brother I can't get to find any tutorial that specify how to get the right module or part).
Indeed - I've switched module models and revisions between slims and they've worked fine. Pro modules will also fit and vise-versa.
I was wondering if you could help with this one! I have tried everything, even buying a new USB to Micro USB adapter and nothing worked. I believe it has something to do with the Bluetooth connection. My PS4 has the same symptoms like this one, and I even updated it. It did work after the update, but the PS4 then slowly started to break. Every time I opened a menu in the settings, it blocked the ability to open that one. I then reset the PS4, then the controller was no longer connected. Thanks for reading! Hopefully, you could help, because I just bought Elden Ring, and don’t want to return it.
What are you using to put the chip back in place? is it some kind of glue? Also, do you need to solder all the induvidial "pins" or can you just replace is with a new one from Ebay straight away?
No glue - paste is called flux which is used to aid the soldering process.
You solder it back in place with a bottom heater and hot air from the top to reflow the solder beneath the new module. If the ones from eBay come pre-balled then you should be able to straight install them otherwise you'll need to do as per the video and ball them yourself before refitting the new module.
@Andrew Paul any idea what the resistor values are around the Wifi chip?
Hi Andrew. What temperature do you have the PCB preheater set on?
Thanks for the video, would you mind sharing at what temperature you resoldered the new ic to the mobo?
485 degrees Celsius @ 100l/min airflow.
Thanks!
My machine maxes out at 450 degrees celsius and 120l/min .....will i get away with those temps and airflow if i crank it wide open
Should just about with a pre-heater.
Hello, what a well made video you've made here. My only problem is that i don't have such devices and wouldn't be able to handle such machinery myself. I own 3 controllers and have recently downloaded an app called ds4 windows which lets you use your ps4 controller on pc. A little time passed and this same issue occured to me, but the controllers charge fine but just won't pair at all. I also only used 2 controllers with this application, the third controller was never used with the pc and still doesnt pair with my ps4. I took it to the retailer after 2 months of trying stuff out (it was unplugged for a month) and he just connected his control and it worked fine, and when i went home even my controllers worked fine. now 20 days have passed and the ezact same issue re occured. Do you have any suggestion what the issue is and how it can be solved with non-tech measures (as in without touching the motherboard)? Heres a list of 'trying stuff out' : reset button, different usb cables, taking out power supply while ps4 is still on and on rest mode, using the controller without a battery but with a usb cable which still didnt work. Id really appreciate any suggestions, thank you.
Great video! Need some help thou, my ps4 is a CUH 1215a and a friend got a CUH 1011a with no video output to donate the part. Are they compatible??? I got to open my PS4 to check the module but not yet the donnor. Thanks in advance for your kind help!
Ive got the same issue. The ps4 didn’t connect to wifi or the controllers wirelessly but did connect if I used a usb cable. I reset the console to factory settings and I cannot get past the setup screen where it asks to press the ps button. If I put the console into safe mode the controller works fine. I disassembled the ps4 and everything looked fine including the antenna. After a bit of research it suggests either the wifi chip or the antenna is damaged but I believe it will be the wireless chip. The console model is a CUH-1216 but I can’t seem to find any chips for this model? Any ideas? Much appreciated
Hi ! I saw your video and I'm really excited to try to repair my ps4. I just had a question : can i "fix" the module on the motherboard just by using a heat gun ? Without using your red dot machine ?
Thank you for your video
Hi,
Possibly but it's a whole lot easier with a pre-heating table.
Great video. I too have the same issue where my 2nd controller can connect to the console initially but always disconnects after a certain time(few minutes). The original controller seems to have normal connectivity otherwise! Any advice would be appreciated. Max
Sounds like a controller issue rather than a console one. For what they're worth I'd just replace the controller.
My firmware wont update i tried hardwired and with usb. Same issue controllers wont sync. Do you think once i replace that Bluetooth module it may update?
There is a regulator for the wifi supplying with 1,8v which causing voltage variations and sometimes shortcircuit damage of the module leading to a dead machine since the power supply is overcurrent latched.But i dont know why ps game goes to update state since i have never played games,my only interresting is for hardware.
Great video bro! Any idea on how to fix my controller being laggy unless my controller is pointed directly at the front of the ps4?
Hi I'm in Manchester I have 64 faulty consoles some have hdmi problem and some have the same problem as you shown in the video I see your from brighouse looking from your ebay...how could I contact yourself direct maybe we can come to some sort of deal
I need help :( when my headphones are plugged into the controller, the audio cuts out on and off a lot and then I lose control over the remote for a second before it snaps back into my control. I tried different controllers and different headphones so I'm thinking the problem is the Bluetooth chip
yeah mine to, did you find what the problem was? I recently drop mine from 2 feet and started doing that.
:SARU: : dude idk what happened but it randomly just stopped after a few weeks. it was so annoying but i just stopped playing online and without headphones. but now it's all working fine
Same problem 😒
We need these issues addressed , my ps4 isn't connecting to my controllers
I have the audio problem before my controllers just straight up gave up on connecting to the console
Hi Andrew, I have a question about a PS4 (CUH-1216A) with bluetooth module problems. Checked NOR chip and there was no corruption. I reballed the bluetooth module before (DHSM-PS97), but the problem return after a short time. So the bluetooth module needs replacement, but I only have the reballed modules AW-NB218 version 1.0 , 1.1 and 1.2. Can the module just be replaced and if yes, which version is the best to take ?
Hi,
Yes since v4.0 they've thankfully been interchangeable between the DHSM and AW-NB218 modules. To be honest I don't think there's much between the AW-NB218 modules but I'd say the later the revision you can get the better.
Thanks ! Also found this link : bgamods.com/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=5166&sid=96c787170f399b6b3d1ea60478e6ec09&start=80 with :
Ok I dumped all 3 boards I had lying around. All scrap boards so I don't know which system update they are running (they will all be 3.15 or higher).
AW-NB218 Rev 1.1 - Size: 434,871 bytes
AW-NB218 Rev 1.2 - Size: 431,614 bytes
DHSM-PS97 - Size: 431,614 bytes - Identical to AW-NB218 Rev 1.2
Just installed the 1.2 version, mobo is cooling down now on my rework machine.
Yeah that's from the days prior to v4.0 and is the reason they couldn't be interchanged (even AW-NB218s of differing revisions), because the different section sizes would upset the SLB2 container if modified / changed in any way.
Aha, just replaced the DHSM by AW-NB218 rev. 1.2 and it works :-) Do you use a hot air station or your rework station, to desolder/solder the bluetooth modules ?
Excellent news! I use the bottom plate for pre-heat and do the rest with the air wand.
Great video as usual. Keep your wonderfull job. Merry Christmas to you.
The same to you mate.
hi paul i need some help from you please.. i have SAA board and C0020001.bin size 453,028 bytes. can you please tell me which templates i should use
Can I ask how do I am able to identify which module I have to use for my ps4 or I can just use any I got a CUH-2115B ps4 slim It has this problem for over a year because I don't know which module to buy for it.
Is Rev V1.1 and V1.2 interchangeable? Also, CVX died some time ago and BGAMODS is gone..... Any other forum you know of?
im looking at a ps4 for someone soon, says the controller isnt functioning properly when connected but all other pads hes tried are the same. id think it was bt board so gonna attempt a reflow. do you think its still doable without the rework station? i have a at85o hot air station and plenty of flux so im hoping so. im a livingroom repairman and dont have all your setup unfortunately :(
i screwed up and am missing the bottom left pad on the mobo. could you tell me which component that pad is connected to or know where I can get a schematic for the model ps4 you have in ur video
I'm getting the su-41283-8 code, is there any way to fix this? Also, if you have a data corruption, does that render this process useless, or will a new wifi module fix the problem?
Okay, thanks for the video, I just had no problem with xbox one and 360 wifi card removal, but this is confusing. The wired controllers were installed and Ethernet, but rf was still being emitted from the units. I do not use a cellphone because wireless rf causes health problems over time. I bet the ps4 is the same case and needs to be separated from the wireless chip in order to stop emitting radio waves.
Awesome video i got a question i got the Bluetooth WiFi module model J20H091 rev 1.0 do you know where i can buy a replacement for that Module please let me know if you know thank you
One for a PS4 Pro? Found a few results on Google for the part number. They'll be fairly rare but there's an eBay listing in the states for $29.99 - I don't think the revision matters much these days - Sony simplified things in v4.x firmware thankfully.
Andrew Paul thank you so much
Thank You so much
Hi there great video , I've re soldered the antennae wires and will work for about 2-3 minutes then controllers lag out and disconnect I've changed the batteries and I had the HDMI port resoldered on had problems since then. Bad Bluetooth chip ?
Hello my friend, did you fix the issue
I have cuh1216a and controller works in safe mode but can't get past first blue screen with PS button(tried few microusb cables)...i can turn on console from 5m from console...is this NOR chip or BT chip fault?
Ps4 slim can you replace the WiFi module from ps4 slim for any what is for ps4 slim or need to be specific one ( does it need to be same as the original one or just could be any what for ps4 slim )
Was the old one faulty? I just wonder whether applying the heat to the old one would have been enough to reactivate the existing solder ...
+Miles Winter They are BGA-based devices under the heatshield and they are really small-set balls so I replace them for ease.
Hey I have a question, can I extract the Bluetooth module from an original PS4 and put it on a PS4 slim or are they different and not compatible?? Please reply. 😄
They have a different footprint, and therefore aren't compatible.
@@AndrewPaul ugh darn, I have 2 original model donor boards but none for the slim. Instead of removing the whole module would I be able to just remove the plate and maybe change the chip underneath or something instead??
Sadly not, you'll need a module for an SAD-based board - there's nothing you can do with the older modules to get the one going that's on the newer board.
@@AndrewPaul SAD standing for?? But ugh thanks, I’ll have to order one tomorrow then. I’m still so new to this, only been a few weeks, sorry for all the questions lol and thanks again!! 😄
SAD is the board revision - SAA / SAB are early boards, SAC's were in the 1200 series consoles, SAD/E/F etc are in the slims. Pro boards start NVx.
hi Andrew Paul, im pretty sure my step daughters ps4 has this issue. do you do these repairs for the public if so how much and how do i contact you?
+Phil Ratter Hi Phil,
Yes mate I do - you can view my repair services and contact me via eBay at:
www.ebay.co.uk/usr/lufcfan2004
Cheers.
Hello good sir, Mines has the same problem. First i replaced the hdd. After i installed the OS it says an error has occured (SU-41283-8). Then i put back the original hdd and got the same error SU-41283-8. Will it fix if i change thr wifi module?
I have the same problem. However the Bluetooth works ONLY when I am close to the PlayStation. Once I get too far, it loses connection to the controller. Since it does work, up to a point could it be it may need some cleaning.or do I need to change the entire part like you did???
that'll be the antenna - check it's plugged in properly into its BNC connector under the power supply.
+Andrew Paul I have it is plugged in properly, the metal bracket is dented in and the outside black case is semi cracked. It must have been dropped. The soldering at the wire and the metal bracket seems to be ok but I will give it a shot at re soldering it. I'll let u know how it goes.
I have the exact same problem you described after my console fell on the floor. Im gonna try to re solder it tomorrow and I'll let you know what happened.
Yup I just got a new antenna and installed it and worked like a charm. So happy my PS4 has been saved, lol.
djtruth209 I can't find it on amazon?
How did u found it
Which system was this? Y didn't u start with the antana?
Hi Andrew, appreciate your channel its quite detailed. I have the same error with my PS4 stuck in a loop SU-41283-8. I flashed the nor chip by using your guide but unfortunately without luck. Then I replaced the bluetooth module with a new one and it still doesn't work. Any ideas what to do?
Do you have the original dump you took before it was edited lying around anywhere?
You can send it to me at ytandrewpaul@outlook.com and I'll happily verify the dump for you then we can ascertain that the issue is definitely module related.
Andrew can you tell me whats your solder station model? Im looking for new one thanks
I'm currently using a JBC DDE-2B with a T245A handle.
My controllers have the exact same problem as you showed in the beginning of the video (they work fine in other devices though). They will only connect sporadically, and sometimes I can get past the "press the PS button" for a few seconds before they disconnect again. My console connects to wifi just fine, so I am a little skeptical if I have to replace the entire module. Have you run through this problem before?
Thanks!
+Gustavo Marques Hobold Check your antenna cable is properly connected and that there's no tears in the lead. It plugs into a BNC connector underneath the PSU.
+Andrew Paul thanks! will do that, but I suspect that's not the problem. I used a Bluetooth signal detector and it seems like it can detect the console even from a reasonable distance. It seems to me that this may be a software issue, but I've initialized the software several times and nothing... will check the antenna though
+Gustavo Marques Hobold Flash ROM corruption can also cause this issue - if you're picking the signal up then that's likely your issue.
Ugh it had to be a bga chip lol, was hoping it was the Bluetooth antenna or something simple, but this’ll be good practice I guess 😄
My hakko 850D has max of 450C. If I run at max what temp would you recommend preheater to remove without issues?
To be honest the Jovy works on percentages - I leave mine to 100% on the middle heater only. 200C should do it.
I have a older Chip Dragon still uses degrees so I will try that. Thanks for reply.
Do you think this is doable without that under side heater? Want to give this a try but only have the heat wand available to remove the chip
Thanks
Sadly not - preheater will be required to get enough heat into that area of the board as it's heavily attached to ground.
Hi can you help me I'm being hacked by bluetooth and wifi if I remove my bluetooth and wifi. Hip or antenna will it still work with wired and ethernet same for dual shock were is the blue tooth located? Sos
Hello Andrew. I have the same problem...I just wondered how could you recognize the problem, Bluetooth module or firmware?
You should always check the firmware first as it's quicker, easier and much kinder on the hardware. Afterall, there's no point in replacing a module requiring some fairly major surgery if the module itself isn't faulty. Sadly there's no outwards way to check - you just have to follow the procedure to arrive at the eventual solution.
Andrew Paul Thanks a lot!
Man I've just hit the top of my graphics card with a heat gun, insulating the rest of the circuit board. Sustained 220 degree C on the top of a card will melt the solder underneath with no removal required. It is a cheap fix tho, prone to breaking again.
Still, perhaps try this before going through all the trouble of repairing ball solder.
I'm very jealous of this guy's skill. I have fallen in love with repairing my clearly defective PS4. I've repaired almost every problem imaginable at this point.
I think I have an antenna problem rn. Either that or wireless chip =/
My PS4 when starting in safe mode does not recognizes the controls vía USB cable. What problem could it be.? I can't start in normal mode because the HDD is new and always the PS4 it start in safe mode.
Will the console work without this chip via Ethernet and a wired controller connection? Thanks
Hi I'm french and I don't understand thé full video does the Bluetooth card is solder ? Good job!
Yes, the card is soldered into position on the motherboard.
Andrew Paul thank you for answered. How can I desolder (i'm sorry for the probably mistake) this and where can I find the material in Reunion Island please
To remove it you can use either a BGA Rework station, or as I do - a bottom pre-heating plate (I just use the bottom heater of the Jovy RE-8500 for this purpose) and hot air. You'll struggle to remove it without the bottom heat applied as it's heavily tied to ground which pulls a lot of heat away into the board. The ICs themselves can be had on eBay / AliExpress or removed from a donor board. I'm going to look to stock these parts on my webshop when I get it up and running in the near future.
Andrew Paul thank you
Hi, I have a question
My bluetooth module doesn't work well anymore so I'll probably have to replace it. Now I've heard about this 'Cronusmax plus', where you can use different types of controllers on your ps4, it comes with its own bluetooth. Would this fix my issue?
Also, as you said in the video: in safe mode it uses usb for the controller and in normal mode it uses the bluetooth module. Is there a way to use the usb in normal mode?
Thanks in advance for your reply!
Not that I'm aware of - I've known of several people try the CMP with bluetooth failure with no joy.
Doh!!!
Might as well chuck the console in the bin :-(
Good luck with yours, will be keeping an eye on your videos :-)
+Ben Mant Nah seriously mate keep it aside for now - you might be surprised.
Help! I opened up my ps4 pro for dust removal and after putting it back togehter my controller ist acting really messed up (spinning or not reacting at all)
what can i do?!?
Hi. My DS4 doesn't sync or connect with the PS4 when I start it up normally, but it does work when I boot the PS4 on safe mode with the USB connected. My second controller doesn't have any connectivity issues and works fine wirelessly on normal mode. Do you know what might be the issue? My broken controller works fine with a USB cable on my PC and PS3.
Its a controller fault. For what they cost, just replace the controller.
so my ps4 controllers won't sync with my ps4, they're stuck in Bluetooth mode. The reset button did NOTHING. I tried using the USB cable to connect controller to system but nothing. I tried safe mode and nothing worked... So if I did what you did in this video would it be fixed?
Sounds like a USB IC failure - there's a video for that on my channel. You'll be replacing the GL3520 IC most likely to resolve that - it's a fairly common issue.
@@AndrewPaul Does not see the gamepad in safe mode, replacing the GL3520 IC and the southern bridge did not solve the problem! Please help me find the problem!!! Thank you in advance :)
Which model did you repair?
I did ribolling wi fi card on ps4 , and now it works :)
Congrats on the successful repair :-)
what exactly u did? with what equipent? thanks
Do you repair ds4 controllers? Think mine got corrupted won't star up with PS button neither USB cable. Has no white light just orange when charging , I have other controller and everything is fine. I'm from Portugal is it to expensive to get it repair in your hands in uk?
Sadly not really.
Have you charged your controller via phone-chargers? that can burn some circuits inside the controller, you buy a new board and a "wire" from ebay and you can repair it.
hi, just wondering what percentage do you figure is flash corruption to the Bluetooth module being the problem for this issue?
Of the 5 I've seen, one was down to flash corruption but I think the figures are of a greater percentage than 20% to be honest.
nice bro the best help ! from all youtube clips ;)
Thank you :-)
Hi What temperature is your pre heater and air gun set at? Cheers
On the RE-8500 manual control I have the heaters set to 100%. Monitor temps top side with a K-probe - anything around 218-225C should see the module lift. Wand is at 490C @ 100l/min.
mine was working perfectly fine last night. I really don't want to think that the bluetooths dead cause I just got the console used yesterday and it was working it only stopped when I went to far away from my ps4 when plugged in and it just lost connection. so I'm thinking it's just the controller.
a query how do I find out what chip model a ps4 slim model cuh-2015a needs because the one it had on the metal sheet was erased and the ic is a 88W8897-NMJ2 and the truth is I don't know which one to replace I can't find any reference If it will be the j20h091, the AW-NB218 or AWCB262, if anyone knows which is the one that handles the aforementioned ic, please help me.
Hi Andrew, great video. Very helpful and informative.
I don't suppose you could offer me some advise?!?!
I have now replaced the Bluetooth module 3 times, and the controllers still won't sync :-(
Pulling my hair out now ..... well what's left of it!!!
+Ben Mant Hi mate. It's a flash corruption issue in instances where rework of the BT/WiFi module is ineffective. This is very difficult to repair however I will be doing some work on this over the coming weeks and videos will of course be uploaded. Cheers.
Where can I buy a new chip? And what did you spread on the chip to get it off with warm air?
Rosin flux
finally found someone with same problem as me. however i didnt manage to find a replacement chip anywhere on the internet cept wholesale vendor that wont sell just one to me. i would like to know what site u went to and tools used thank you. btw seems the mic didnt catch all the words you said on the video. sensitivity perhaps
+kotd009 Hi, I lifted mine from a scrap donor board I had in my possession. Tools were a hot air station, de-solder braid, leaded solder and a soldering iron as seen in the video. The mic has been playing up recently - that'll hopefully be sorted from this point forwards :-)
+Andrew Paul thank you very much for your help and thank you kindly for sharing your video :)
bout time someone did this video!!!
Hi! Great video! I have few questions: I CAN'T in no way desolder my old module. I've got the newer version of the mobo (cuh12xx) and slightly different chip. Reflowing it keeps console up and running either to first reset or connecting to a wifi (then it freezes almost instantly and bluetooth stops working aswell). It's a faulty wifi part of the module for sure. I've tried to reball it and then, if it doesn' work putting in a new one but I CAN'T desolder it no matter how high I crank up the temp (heated from both sides OFC) It just won't budge. Nothing. Nil. Ive tested my setup on another BGA and it popped off as it should. This one - not a chance. I would gladly take any suggestions as to how to take it off without destroying the mobo and optionally the module itself since I don't need wifi and bluetooth works just fine (and those modules are expensive here). I should add that the gap between the module and the mobo is virtually non existent.
What setup are you using to remove the module, i.e. Hot air wand / BGA Machine / preheater make/model etc?
These modules are located across a large ground region and will take a lot of 'oomph' to get it off. Anything other than some high-end equipment will most likely struggle. Curiosly though, has it had a liquid spill beneath the IC because it can make getting them off a living hell and are you using a quality flux paste to aid removal?
Some cheapo "noname" air wand with air add. heating from underneath using diy preheater (with proper power modulator and thermal sensor) and flux paste (i've lost the lid of the current one so I can't give you a brand name) that is a generic brand aswell but worked beautifly for me to this point and I had zero problems with desoldering BGA's from PC motherboards with zero damage/overheating or any trouble whatsoever. I'm not a pro, I've collected mostly DIY stuff that only works precisely enough to the point of not destroying elements and not warping PCB's and it worked on everything to this point with zero problems (and temp limit is not the problem since I can purely theoretically crank it up to almost 600 degrees celsuis). Few months ago I reworked xbox APU in no time with zero problems and it holds strong. this damn thing though....this particular PS4 is a "hobby project" of mine that I insisted on reviving from absloutely murdered state instead of throwing it out. I've got it for free but it's a matter of honour now, not money :D I've fixed every single thing in it to the point it works flawlesly even under high load (tested on "one reset cycle" without wifi) except the damn wifi/bt module. I'm trying not to give up on it because of such a simple fix but I feel I have no other choice. Replacing the whole mobo is a official personal fail in this case IMO :) Even with proper air streaming the first thing that gave up was the upper shielding of the chip from heat transfer across the pcb and hot air spill and main solder points hold on like they wre glued in place with something fireproof. Not even a light wobble on the corners. The melting point is surely reached since every attempt causes an "accidental reflow" that allows to turn it on and use a controller for some time.
I have a PS4 with this kind of problem. Wiif/bt module on that ps4 is J20H071. At the moment i have a board with CO-E53195W module on it, Both boards are from 1116A consoles. Are these wifi/bt modules swapable, will CO-E53195W fit in J20H071 place?
Yes these should swap OK.
I can confirm, that these are swapable :) Wifi and bt works again!
hello, you could tell me if the bluetooth module of a cuh 1115 console is compatible with a cuh 1216. thanks. I am looking forward to your response.
No it's not - completely different BGA site and firmware. Cheers.
where I can get the bluetooth module 1216a for my console. I'm from Uruguay
Either a scrap SAC-001 board or somewhere like eBay / AliExpress etc. Make sure you get the same type card / revision number as your existing WiFi module otherwise your machine may not boot.
I only get 1215 on ebay. it serves?
It will - just make sure the WiFi board is the same type / model and revision as yours currently as they are not interchangeable on the 12xx series PS4.
Andrew, this looks exactly what is wrong with mine. I’m located in London like you, can you fix mine? I can drop it off to you...?
Off course I meant a chargeable service. I have the CUH-1216A.
Can you give me a quote plz
Ok I tried this and still get the same thing? Left side works right side don’t my controller won’t sync. What else can I try? Thanks
can i just order any new wifi/bluetooth chip or it has to be the same model ?
hi Andrew, the bluetooth module on the cuh-12XX are they interchangeable?. The DHSM-PS97 from CUH-1216B has gone bad, can i use AW-NB218-2-22180-B1H instead? i've already verified not nor firmware issue. thanks
Hi mate,
To be honest since v4.0 I'm not sure. Pre-4.0 you couldn't - interchanging modules would cause BLOD. I believe 4.0 used identical C020001 containers - never tried a swap to be honest as not had any in to do so not sure if that would still be the case. I believe they all have the same footprint so should theoretically fit. I've not even looked at any 4.50+ dumps at all as yet but intend to as I need to update the tutorial vids. For now all I can suggest is to try it and see mate. :-)
yes, footprint is same as original. i'll let you know if work or not. cheers!
Cheers mate - would be much appreciated!
it worked. AW-NB218-2-22180-B1H rev1.2 module work fine. Thanks Andrew!
Good to know mate thank you. Another issue it looks like Sony got sick of ha ha! Could never understand why they locked the modules down to a specific type/revision initially on the 1200.