My control board got hung up on a big grapevine while going through the woods bush hogging. Sure is nice to find a video that shows exactly what I am about to do. Thank you.
Hey brother, thanks for the video I’ve got a Massey 2850 and my dealer Johnson’s farm and feed over in Yulee. Florida is going to send me the new motherboard as we’ve chosen to call it. Thank you very much, sir and I’m a new subscriber.😊😊
You helped me out a lot. My problem was a missing solonoid coil. The nut loosened and it fell off the tractor. I didn’t realize there were two of them until I watched your video. Went back to where I was using it and found it on the ground. Thanks.
How bout ya! I've been searching and searching the forums and RUclips for an answer to this exact problem. I am new to tractors and I bought a new grapple for my used Kioti 4510. I put the grapple on hooked up the hydraulics and was excited to do some work. I pushed the button on the 3rd function switch and nothing happened. Like I said, I'm new to tractors and I didn't have a clue what was wrong. I didn't know if the hydraulic couplers on the grapple we're incompatible or what. I first got in touch with Kenny at Bolt On, LLC who is on a Tractor Time with Tim video about 3rd function valve problems. He walked me through some troubleshooting steps and had me do what you showed by pushing the right end of the cylinder in with an pair of needle nose pliers and the grapple opened. I pushed the left end in and the grapple closed. As he and you said, that told me that the valve and the couplers were ok. I took my multimeter and checked to see if I was getting power to the red wire from the battery and I am. I took off the handle on the 3rd function switch and I have no power to the switch. My WR Long valve is underneath the right side of my tractor. I pulled out the harness with the blue and yellow wires and tried to put the meter lead in the Iittle opening to test it there. I got no reading but it was hard to know if I had the lead in the right spot. I'm hoping it is the little circuit board gone bad like on yours. I see WR Long website shows the circuit board with both the red wire and the blue and yellow wires. I didn't see the board and just the red wire. Also, WR Long only sells to dealers not individuals. Can you tell me what Part Number you purchased and the contact information for Saga Motors. Thank you for this video!!
If you disconnect the negative it will nat arc if your wrench contacts a part of the tractor that is grounded. You don’t have to touch the positive because you no longer have a complete circuit. Even if you need to work on the positive you should disconnect the negative first.
Have a yanmar 3100 tractor with a yansung 4 in 1 bucket. Have tested the toggle switch appears to have power and operating however bucket won’t operate. I will try testing the solenoid on the control valve and see if I can identify the issue. Found your video most helpful.
Man I have a 2019 John Deere 3038 with 53 hours on it I bought it brand new and the grapple stop working I’m gonna try your steps and hope I make it work Thanks for the video
Was the first video that came up under search..... ABSOLUTELY what I needed. Just got machine back from dealer (warranty work, beyond my scope), solenoid worked when I dropped off, didn’t when I got it back. Checked all the obvious, hydraulic lines, power supply, connections, etc. . Was running out of ideas, board replacement seems incredibly easy, luckily I didn’t have to go that far. I was not aware of manual cycling for the hydraulic, cycled that way a couple of times, and switch worked!!! Apparently, info from web forums, if not cycled regularly, or exposed to weather WR Long solenoid will “seize” up. Anyway, GREAT video, keep ‘em coming!!!
Hank I didn't see in the video if you have to run wires to the rocker switch, I'm confident I will figure that out when I get the switch. Just curious.
I see you have a connector from your joystick control to the valve control module instead of it hard wired. Mine is hard wired and is bad. It won't even jump power to the close circuit in the board. Did your original have the white connector or was it hard wired at the circuit board?
I installed valve with Grapple. The valve works great; except the valve will not hold pressure. The grapple closes by itself when fully open. If held open and grab something it closes around object but will not apply enough pressure to pick up. What could be the problem?
Hank, I really enjoy your video's. I'm soon to be purchasing a Mahindra also. You have made my decision easy. One tip I like to add is that I noticed your front-in loader is lifted for you to work easier. For safety purpose, always put something under your bucket to hold it up, in case something or someone hits the levers and drops the loader down. I work at a military base and you would get wrote up for not having it secured. Don't want nothing happen to you my friend. Thanks for making these videos.
Yes good point. If you watch my other videos, where I have the bucket lifted I mention that, but you're right, I need to do it 100%of the time. It only takes a second for an accident to happen. Thanks for looking out👍I appreciate it 🙂
If you need to order W.R. Long products from Amazon, use my link below! amzn.to/2Ve3F1Y Spoke to W.R. Long company about the circuit board failure. Wonderful conversation with them. I am sending the old cicuit board back so they can reverse engineer the failure. They are a company who stands behind their products and are genuinely concerned about the needs of their customers. Great job W.R. Long. 👍👍
I have the WR Long on my Mahindra 26MAX XLT, 20 hours. It sees to be wired backwards (at least to me). Pressing the thumb button up closes, pushing it down opens the grapple. Cant just switch out the quick connect hoses, as the are male/female, etc. Any suggestions?
Hi Hank... I know this is one of your older videos but have a quick question. I have the same WR Long valve and my issue is only part of the function works and the other does not. So my grapple will open but not close. I am trying to determine if it is the switch in the handle vs the piece you replaced. Was your grapple working at all when you replaced this part? Thanks!
If I recall correctly it was not working at all. But if only one function is working, maybe a short in the close circuit or maybe a bad connection due to rust or corrosion 🤷🏻♂️🔧
@@Hfoutdoorsyt You were absolutely correct! It was a bad connection in the close connection. I really appreciate your help and keep up the great videos!
I tested the circuit board by using a test light and seeing if it was getting power to board itself. It was, so that told me somehow the circuitry was bad. As far as the joystick goes, I just did a visual inspection for loose connections or corrosion, and there was none. So I assumed it was ok, which it did in fact turn out to be. I will tell you this, W.R. Long was rel helpful after the fact and was a pleasure to deal with. Really built my confidence in their products. Hope this answers your question.
I am a bit surprised that you did not remove the ground strap on the battery before working on the positive post of the battery. A wrench contacting both the positive post of the battery and the frame of the tractor would make one heck of a spark and get hot really fast.
Good point. Probably shouldve done that...however the wing nuts on my terminal are plastic coated so that's a little protection against the accidental contact.
Yes. Just stopped. Good thing I didn't have anything clamped inside the clamps. I wouldn't have known how to get it out. That's a good point I should have mentioned in the video. 👍
I haven't reached out to them, but that's a good thought..maybe I'll see what they think and if it's common. Luckily it was easy to diagnose and easy to change.
For Safety: Your loader raised to full height needs angle irons attached to lift cylinder rods. release pressure on lift - let cylinders drop against angle irons. Helps to prevent you from being hit by loader. Use wire ties to angle irons in place. Use 1 angle iron /cylinder
We haven't added a 3rd function switch, but we'll need to in the near future. Good info in case it stops working (something to check out for sure). Thanks for sharing! FYI - the music was a little loud in some sections, might drop it down just a touch in the future. ;)
Good job Hank. You are very smart and savvy on the mechanics of how things work. I'm impressed. The Mahindra is still shiny. Wonder what the Dealer would have charged you for that fix? Mark.
I'm afraid to ask...lol. I'm just a guy that needs to learn how to fix his own stuff. Mark, I appreciate you and your comments. Always look forward to reading them. 👍
My control board got hung up on a big grapevine while going through the woods bush hogging. Sure is nice to find a video that shows exactly what I am about to do. Thank you.
Most Awesome Video and much needed by me. My grapple didn't work at first but this helped me diagnose it!
A limb popped up and broke my board. Was hoping I could just purchase the setup you replaced. Now I know I can. Thanks again.
You bet👍
Can't seem to find it online. You know a place?
www.wrlonginc.com/valvekits 🤷🏻♂️
Had limb scrape mine off the tractor was worried I was in deep happened across this vid thanks
Hey brother, thanks for the video I’ve got a Massey 2850 and my dealer Johnson’s farm and feed over in Yulee. Florida is going to send me the new motherboard as we’ve chosen to call it. Thank you very much, sir and I’m a new subscriber.😊😊
You helped me out a lot. My problem was a missing solonoid coil. The nut loosened and it fell off the tractor. I didn’t realize there were two of them until I watched your video. Went back to where I was using it and found it on the ground. Thanks.
👍
Good job and May God bless yall 🙏
Thanks buddy 👍
Good Job Hank
Thanks Joey!
Excellent video. Mine just went out and I’m about to replace it. Great to see it done first.
Just had something snag the wire and pull it out. Thanks for the video it helped a ton. I didn't know how to remove that 🙏
Thanks for watching 👍
How bout ya! I've been searching and searching the forums and RUclips for an answer to this exact problem. I am new to tractors and I bought a new grapple for my used Kioti 4510. I put the grapple on hooked up the hydraulics and was excited to do some work. I pushed the button on the 3rd function switch and nothing happened. Like I said, I'm new to tractors and I didn't have a clue what was wrong. I didn't know if the hydraulic couplers on the grapple we're incompatible or what. I first got in touch with Kenny at Bolt On, LLC who is on a Tractor Time with Tim video about 3rd function valve problems. He walked me through some troubleshooting steps and had me do what you showed by pushing the right end of the cylinder in with an pair of needle nose pliers and the grapple opened. I pushed the left end in and the grapple closed. As he and you said, that told me that the valve and the couplers were ok. I took my multimeter and checked to see if I was getting power to the red wire from the battery and I am. I took off the handle on the 3rd function switch and I have no power to the switch. My WR Long valve is underneath the right side of my tractor. I pulled out the harness with the blue and yellow wires and tried to put the meter lead in the Iittle opening to test it there. I got no reading but it was hard to know if I had the lead in the right spot. I'm hoping it is the little circuit board gone bad like on yours. I see WR Long website shows the circuit board with both the red wire and the blue and yellow wires. I didn't see the board and just the red wire. Also, WR Long only sells to dealers not individuals. Can you tell me what Part Number you purchased and the contact information for Saga Motors. Thank you for this video!!
If you disconnect the negative it will nat arc if your wrench contacts a part of the tractor that is grounded. You don’t have to touch the positive because you no longer have a complete circuit. Even if you need to work on the positive you should disconnect the negative first.
I have a brand new tractor and have replaced 3 of these in less than 2 hours
Great video my friend
Thank you!
Have a yanmar 3100 tractor with a yansung 4 in 1 bucket. Have tested the toggle switch appears to have power and operating however bucket won’t operate. I will try testing the solenoid on the control valve and see if I can identify the issue. Found your video most helpful.
Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you for the video. When can we find the replacement circuit board, cannot find from the Amazon link. Appreciate it.
Contact WR long direct. They'll help you out
@@Hfoutdoorsyt Thank you
Man I have a 2019 John Deere 3038 with 53 hours on it I bought it brand new and the grapple stop working
I’m gonna try your steps and hope I make it work
Thanks for the video
thanks really helped me out got same problem on my 3550 grapple
Thanks for watching 👍
That's a good thing to know glad you punt the video up
Thank you!
I am scared of driving one of those things. However; you make owning one seem easy. Great video
Shoot, you'd be a pro in a matter of minutes 👍😁
Was the first video that came up under search..... ABSOLUTELY what I needed. Just got machine back from dealer (warranty work, beyond my scope), solenoid worked when I dropped off, didn’t when I got it back. Checked all the obvious, hydraulic lines, power supply, connections, etc. . Was running out of ideas, board replacement seems incredibly easy, luckily I didn’t have to go that far. I was not aware of manual cycling for the hydraulic, cycled that way a couple of times, and switch worked!!! Apparently, info from web forums, if not cycled regularly, or exposed to weather WR Long solenoid will “seize” up. Anyway, GREAT video, keep ‘em coming!!!
Thanks for watching. We appreciate it 👍
Nice 'how-to" video. Thanks for the share♡
Thank you for watching!
Can you tell me where you got the plans for that covered barn in the background
I got my pole barn kit from Surplus and salvage in Chipley FL.
Hank I didn't see in the video if you have to run wires to the rocker switch, I'm confident I will figure that out when I get the switch. Just curious.
You do have to run the wires to the rocker switch...pretty straight forward. good luck!
Like 3! How are you? Great information and video! Love ❤️ the channel! Have a great day and take care!🙂👍❤️🐕🚜
Thank you so much!
Your very welcome!
HOW CAN I GET REPLACEMT PARTS FOR WR LONG INC GRAPPLE KIT ???
I see you have a connector from your joystick control to the valve control module instead of it hard wired. Mine is hard wired and is bad. It won't even jump power to the close circuit in the board. Did your original have the white connector or was it hard wired at the circuit board?
I installed valve with Grapple. The valve works great; except the valve will not hold pressure. The grapple closes by itself when fully open. If held open and grab something it closes around object but will not apply enough pressure to pick up. What could be the problem?
Hank, I really enjoy your video's. I'm soon to be purchasing a Mahindra also. You have made my decision easy. One tip I like to add is that I noticed your front-in loader is lifted for you to work easier. For safety purpose, always put something under your bucket to hold it up, in case something or someone hits the levers and drops the loader down. I work at a military base and you would get wrote up for not having it secured. Don't want nothing happen to you my friend. Thanks for making these videos.
Yes good point. If you watch my other videos, where I have the bucket lifted I mention that, but you're right, I need to do it 100%of the time. It only takes a second for an accident to happen. Thanks for looking out👍I appreciate it 🙂
Your welcome Hank, keep up the good work!
LIKE A ROCKER SWITCH ??
Thanks Hank, we'll be at Moultrie this year hope to see you there. (If they have it)
Heard they cancelled it. 👎
@@Hfoutdoorsyt just looked it up, your right. Thanks
If you need to order W.R. Long products from Amazon, use my link below!
amzn.to/2Ve3F1Y
Spoke to W.R. Long company about the circuit board failure. Wonderful conversation with them. I am sending the old cicuit board back so they can reverse engineer the failure. They are a company who stands behind their products and are genuinely concerned about the needs of their customers. Great job W.R. Long. 👍👍
I have the WR Long on my Mahindra 26MAX XLT, 20 hours. It sees to be wired backwards (at least to me). Pressing the thumb button up closes, pushing it down opens the grapple. Cant just switch out the quick connect hoses, as the are male/female, etc. Any suggestions?
Turn the button over?
@@Hfoutdoorsyt Dealer Installed it, but I'm going to go look at it, and see if i can unsrew the handle and just turn it over. :)
thanks
Hi Hank... I know this is one of your older videos but have a quick question. I have the same WR Long valve and my issue is only part of the function works and the other does not. So my grapple will open but not close. I am trying to determine if it is the switch in the handle vs the piece you replaced. Was your grapple working at all when you replaced this part? Thanks!
If I recall correctly it was not working at all. But if only one function is working, maybe a short in the close circuit or maybe a bad connection due to rust or corrosion 🤷🏻♂️🔧
@@Hfoutdoorsyt You were absolutely correct! It was a bad connection in the close connection. I really appreciate your help and keep up the great videos!
Hank, You put a smile on my face, when you got it to work! Good job as always!🚜🚜👍🏻✌🏻️
Thank you!
How was the rest of the circuit setup if it was not the control board. How do you trouble shoot the open close switch on loader joy stick.
I tested the circuit board by using a test light and seeing if it was getting power to board itself. It was, so that told me somehow the circuitry was bad. As far as the joystick goes, I just did a visual inspection for loose connections or corrosion, and there was none. So I assumed it was ok, which it did in fact turn out to be. I will tell you this, W.R. Long was rel helpful after the fact and was a pleasure to deal with. Really built my confidence in their products. Hope this answers your question.
Show how to install a 3 function valve on your Mahindra tractor . Thanks for the videos
I'll have to check into that. That's a good idea. I appreciate the idea. 👍
I am a bit surprised that you did not remove the ground strap on the battery before working on the positive post of the battery. A wrench contacting both the positive post of the battery and the frame of the tractor would make one heck of a spark and get hot really fast.
Good point. Probably shouldve done that...however the wing nuts on my terminal are plastic coated so that's a little protection against the accidental contact.
What were the original symptoms? Just quit working?
Yes. Just stopped. Good thing I didn't have anything clamped inside the clamps. I wouldn't have known how to get it out. That's a good point I should have mentioned in the video. 👍
Good tip as always Hank! What does WP long think caused the circuit board to fail? Any ideas on how to avoid that happening?
I haven't reached out to them, but that's a good thought..maybe I'll see what they think and if it's common. Luckily it was easy to diagnose and easy to change.
See my comment above. 👍
Another fix! Man points up 👆 always something on the farm needs fixing.
you right about that!
For Safety: Your loader raised to full height needs angle irons attached to lift cylinder rods. release pressure on lift - let cylinders drop against angle irons. Helps to prevent you from being hit by loader. Use wire ties to angle irons in place. Use 1 angle iron /cylinder
I do need to invest in something to protect against accidental failure. usually I prop it up against my pole barn post. Good catch!
who is the camera person for all your videos ?
That sounds like a loaded question 😂 ...it's my wife.
We haven't added a 3rd function switch, but we'll need to in the near future. Good info in case it stops working (something to check out for sure). Thanks for sharing! FYI - the music was a little loud in some sections, might drop it down just a touch in the future. ;)
Thank you for the feedback!
Great how to! Your shirt is soaked...must be hot there. Only 55 here today!
Miserable and it's only June! Thanks for watching brother!
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Thanks buddy 👍
Good job Hank. You are very smart and savvy on the mechanics of how things work. I'm impressed. The Mahindra is still shiny.
Wonder what the Dealer would have charged you for that fix? Mark.
I'm afraid to ask...lol. I'm just a guy that needs to learn how to fix his own stuff. Mark, I appreciate you and your comments. Always look forward to reading them. 👍