The Royal New Zealand Navy Loses One of Their Largest Ship - HMNZS Manawanui off the coast of Samoa

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • New Zealand Navy Disaster
    October 7, 2024
    In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the loss of the HMNZS Manawanui off the southern shore of Samoa on October 5, 2024.
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Комментарии • 744

  • @wgowshipping
    @wgowshipping  2 часа назад +42

    🚨This story is about what we know so far in the sinking of HMNZS Manawanui. Since the focus of the comments seem to be on the ship's captain, here is her background.
    Commander Yvonne Gray joined the Royal Navy in 1993 and sailed in frigates and minehunters. She transferred to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 2012 and Manawanui is her first command.🚨
    Also, no comments on my excellent Maori?

    • @PatRiarchy-qw6cp
      @PatRiarchy-qw6cp 2 часа назад +31

      And her last command, as well

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  2 часа назад +12

      @@PatRiarchy-qw6cp That is true.

    • @bobkoroua
      @bobkoroua 2 часа назад +6

      You tried at least.

    • @sgtbrown4273
      @sgtbrown4273 2 часа назад +4

      Awesome work . Greetings from McMurdo Station Antarctica 😊

    • @Richard-od7yd
      @Richard-od7yd 2 часа назад +3

      This is almost as bad as Sweden losing one of its New VISBY Class Frigates a couple of years ago .

  • @dongiovanni4331
    @dongiovanni4331 3 часа назад +156

    They found the reef!

    • @farmerfarmerer3847
      @farmerfarmerer3847 2 часа назад +8

      Now it is a reef.

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 2 часа назад +10

      Correction - They re-discovered a "well-charted reef", according to Sal.

    • @MarkD-pl4fu
      @MarkD-pl4fu 2 часа назад +5

      Sonar contact! Brace for impact! Well, obviously the reef was at fault

    • @johneddys2351
      @johneddys2351 2 часа назад +3

      Probably smoking the reef too.

  • @JohnSmith-vi5pz
    @JohnSmith-vi5pz 2 часа назад +31

    The New Zealand navy lose a surface vessel and gain a submarine.

  • @fissile1
    @fissile1 3 часа назад +189

    Hydrographic survey. Using the touch system.

  • @CallsItLikeISeizeIts
    @CallsItLikeISeizeIts 3 часа назад +77

    USN had same affliction years ago, multiple ships came down with Runagrounditis

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 часа назад +1

      I thought the US Navy's problem was running into things. Cargo ships, etc.

    • @MarkD-pl4fu
      @MarkD-pl4fu 2 часа назад +4

      But were those crews up to date in their diversity training?

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 2 часа назад +2

      @@andrewtaylor940 The US Navy has about 470 ships. NZ Navy has like 5 tug boats, a cruiser and a destroyer.

    • @MARKCARTLIDGE-sm3mz
      @MARKCARTLIDGE-sm3mz 2 часа назад

      If the usn ship was an LCS it wouldn't have hit the reef.
      It wouldn't have got there without breaking down or falling apart before it got any where near grounding.
      So it have been worse.😮

    • @CaptApple
      @CaptApple Час назад +1

      Which led to a rash of never commanding agains.

  • @USMCArchAngel03
    @USMCArchAngel03 3 часа назад +140

    That part of the world if famous for those sneaky reefs. In fact there's so many that you even have to look at the map sometimes!

    • @DIRTYdeeds613
      @DIRTYdeeds613 2 часа назад +13

      DEI Captain

    • @guyrosinbaum7745
      @guyrosinbaum7745 2 часа назад +5

      Chart

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 часа назад

      Maps are racist and sexist

    • @robwilcox9296
      @robwilcox9296 2 часа назад +4

      True. I was on a ship that tried to shortcut through some known reefs and bumped one of those sneaky reefs and bent a propshaft. The propshaft was 9 inches OD.

    • @suestreet9934
      @suestreet9934 2 часа назад +3

      I wonder how the charts happen

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 2 часа назад +28

    Incompetence for a force that is exiting its business.

  • @Weshopwizard
    @Weshopwizard 2 часа назад +10

    Everyone said I was daft to build a ship on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest ship in all of New Zealand.

  • @petawillingale
    @petawillingale 3 часа назад +30

    Someone shouted out " who put that bloody reef there"

    • @TheSwayzeTrain
      @TheSwayzeTrain 2 часа назад

      Local Samoan: "You cant park there mate!"

  • @jerryodell1168
    @jerryodell1168 2 часа назад +29

    Sad. No military related sailor ever wants to see a friendly nation's Naval ship in trouble. Especially, New Zeeland since some of us shared service together with New Zeeland's sailors years ago. USS Canberra CAG-2, USS Dahlgren DLG-12, and USS Jouett CG-29.

    • @bradbutcher3984
      @bradbutcher3984 2 часа назад +3

      The captain was a DEI first lesbian captain and only had 8 years in the navy. She was a school teacher before.

    • @es-qf2gw
      @es-qf2gw 2 часа назад

      @jerryodell1168 look at the bright side, excuse to buy a new one!!!

    • @XX-qd6ke
      @XX-qd6ke 2 часа назад

      No Merchant Mariner ever wants to see that either.

  • @kingrichard728
    @kingrichard728 3 часа назад +53

    Good video. Just one point, HMNZS Aotearoa is the largest ship in the fleet

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  2 часа назад +13

      My apologies. And Canterbury is a bit larger by tonnage.

    • @Rooxie973
      @Rooxie973 2 часа назад +4

      ​@@wgowshipping"HMNZS Aotearoa is significantly larger and designed for logistical support and Antarctic operations, while the HMNZS Canterbury is focused on amphibious and sealift capabilities"

  • @hydewhyte4364
    @hydewhyte4364 2 часа назад +61

    I want to know if they're going to sue the captain for damage to the reef like they'd do to any civilian captain.

    • @michaeldowson6988
      @michaeldowson6988 2 часа назад +2

      Why the captain, rather than the crew member monitoring the depth gauge.

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 2 часа назад +15

      @@michaeldowson6988 It's always the Captain's fault. It comes with the hat.

    • @PehDoePeet
      @PehDoePeet 2 часа назад +3

      ​​​@@michaeldowson6988 Oh boy, there always has to be an apologist for a failed system .
      Did Not Earn It. Quotas. "Equity" .

    • @paton57
      @paton57 2 часа назад +2

      It's Milatary they pay the bill

    • @michaeldowson6988
      @michaeldowson6988 2 часа назад +2

      @@Mishn0 Then why do they waste money on investigative enquiries?

  • @duotronic6451
    @duotronic6451 3 часа назад +77

    "Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water." None of this 'captain goes down with the ship' out of sheer embarrassment stuff.

    • @USMCArchAngel03
      @USMCArchAngel03 3 часа назад +21

      "Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water."
      In the old days that's what would have happened to a captain's career after an incident like this. But now..?

    •  2 часа назад

      Unfortunately she’s a lesbian who often mentions her husband and her pronouns 😢😢😢

    • @donoimdono2702
      @donoimdono2702 2 часа назад +27

      ​@@USMCArchAngel03- she was a dei hire and was put in command with only 8 years in the navy

    • @mdt105
      @mdt105 2 часа назад +18

      When the most notable event of your career sounds like a Monty Python skit, you know you're in trouble.

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 2 часа назад +12

      DEI in action

  • @BoredSquirell
    @BoredSquirell 3 часа назад +25

    The ship was surveying reefs - it definitely located a reef

  • @theodoreolson8529
    @theodoreolson8529 3 часа назад +57

    Survey reef...check.

  • @GeezerGear
    @GeezerGear 2 часа назад +17

    As usual excellent reporting. Tough situation for that vessel. We often overlook the need for surveying our oceans and waterways.

  • @tigarxox
    @tigarxox 2 часа назад +22

    Seems negligent being close to a well known reef. That’s a lot of valuable equipment lost.

    • @sgtbrown4273
      @sgtbrown4273 2 часа назад +2

      Not to mention the HORRIBLE damage to that economy system.

    • @CraigMichael-z3v
      @CraigMichael-z3v 2 часа назад +1

      It's a blow for tourism for Samoans

    • @muhdiversity7409
      @muhdiversity7409 Час назад

      I see a promotion in the Captain's future. It is New Zealand after all.

  • @firetruck988
    @firetruck988 2 часа назад +25

    Stop defending the captain guys. You're in command because you're supposed to know better, and this is an embarrassing way to lose your ship.

    • @darbyohara
      @darbyohara Час назад +4

      It’s not her fault! She’s just a woman! There was lots of switches and buttons 😂

    • @perryallan3524
      @perryallan3524 Час назад +2

      That has yet to be determined. If the ship lost power it may not be her fault. There may be other factors as well.
      Let's wait for the investigative report to be at least semi-finalized before jumping to conclusions.

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount 2 часа назад +22

    A bit unfortunate that the incumbent MINDEF, Judith Collins, has been in the job for a year and is still struggling with the acronyms (or was poorly briefed).
    Glad though that our mates "across the ditch" are OK.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Час назад

      She can't even brush her hair before a TV interview...... Jeeeez

    • @therocinante3443
      @therocinante3443 Час назад

      She's the most qualified, never mind knowing nothing about these matters.

  • @scootertrash911
    @scootertrash911 2 часа назад +9

    Nobody on the bridge could read a chart? Even a Third Class Quartermaster can read a chart. They were the dumbist guys in the Coast Guard so it would make the CO's look better.

  • @danmadden1080
    @danmadden1080 2 часа назад +10

    Thanks for the video and hello from New Zealand 🇳🇿.

    • @sgtbrown4273
      @sgtbrown4273 2 часа назад +2

      I'll be heading that way soon ..... in like a few hours 😂

  • @HoneyBadger80886
    @HoneyBadger80886 2 часа назад +9

    Good report. Wind and sea conditions were appreciated.

  • @marcgatto9675
    @marcgatto9675 2 часа назад +18

    Another major lack of judgment by incompetent officers.

  • @derbuckeyetribe9789
    @derbuckeyetribe9789 2 часа назад +8

    Boy, that escalated really fast.

  • @JohnSmith-vi5pz
    @JohnSmith-vi5pz 2 часа назад +90

    Captain, hated by the crew as she made them peel all the stickers off the doors traditionally donated by navel ports they have visited. But never mind, a good box ticking exercise, and applicable to the navigator too......

    • @hoopslaa5235
      @hoopslaa5235 2 часа назад +2

      Is this true? Either way I’m sure they mysteriously all went to bed when any alarms went off and weren’t available.

    • @JohnSmith-vi5pz
      @JohnSmith-vi5pz 2 часа назад +5

      @@hoopslaa5235 I believe it is true, the info came from an ex-uk RN officer.

    • @louisvillaescusa
      @louisvillaescusa 2 часа назад +16

      Who can say, "diversity hire?"

    • @richardwillson101
      @richardwillson101 Час назад

      ​@louisvillaescusa a captain? Highly unlikely.

  • @mgbrattland
    @mgbrattland 2 часа назад +11

    Outstanding as always. BZ

  • @crooky66west
    @crooky66west 2 часа назад +10

    Here in NZ it is now being reported that Manawanui was trialing biofuel...

    • @fellwind
      @fellwind 2 часа назад +1

      Potential cause of the loss of power? If the engines weren't properly outfitted for it. That might make sense.

    • @sirsmeal3192
      @sirsmeal3192 Час назад

      That wouldn't affect the anchor.

  • @AlwayzPr0
    @AlwayzPr0 3 часа назад +118

    Imagine being so bad at your job that you run aground on a ship full of sensors for mapping the sea bed.

    • @stevenakn1
      @stevenakn1 3 часа назад +14

      😅😅

    • @gtdcov
      @gtdcov 2 часа назад +8

      Do you know who was in command?

    • @HowardDrysdale
      @HowardDrysdale 2 часа назад +2

      How do you assess who/what is “so bad?”
      Do you understand anything about seamanship?
      Publish the facts that led you to this “guess” as to how it happened!

    • @donoimdono2702
      @donoimdono2702 2 часа назад +7

      ​@@HowardDrysdale- you may want to engage brain while reading comments. pretty obvious what he said

    • @jaydanbaker123
      @jaydanbaker123 2 часа назад +26

      ​@HowardDrysdale The Captains prior career history seems to be the leading issue. But regardless of the seemingly obvious diversity hire, the ships function at the moment was mapping the sea bed which leads to the hilarous irony of a burning fire truck. It doesn't matter if it actually wasn't this captains fault the buck stops with her full stop.

  • @icare7151
    @icare7151 2 часа назад +8

    Proper Navigation is critical. Not doing so is deadly.

  • @adairjanney7109
    @adairjanney7109 2 часа назад +37

    New Zealand and Australia have been neutered.

  • @kblackav8or
    @kblackav8or 2 часа назад +16

    There is a certain irony there.

    • @gtdcov
      @gtdcov 2 часа назад +11

      Is it the part about the “Commander” being in the kitchen when this happened. I thought it was hugely ironic.

    • @sgtbrown4273
      @sgtbrown4273 2 часа назад +2

      ​@@gtdcov😂

  • @Inkling777
    @Inkling777 2 часа назад +12

    So a vessel that constitutes half the tonnage of the entire New Zealand navy is operating near reefs, some of them uncharted, and yet it runs aground. That is hard to explain.
    -In the days of wooden sailing ships, someone would be at the bow of the ship throwing a line to measure the depth. Today they have depth gauges that work even better. And given the risky circumstances, why wasn't a small boat going ahead of this ship and radioing back the depth? There seems to be an incredible lack of foresight here.

    • @NighthawkNZ
      @NighthawkNZ 2 часа назад

      rubbish Aotearoa is 26,000 tonnes, Canturbery 9000 tonnes, and each frigate about 3000 tonnes each

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 часа назад

      The ships mission was literally charting the reefs. She was equipped with all the best sensors to see and map the reefs. So it's not like she was operating blind.

  • @steveinla8963
    @steveinla8963 2 часа назад +6

    Thank you Sal

  • @ronalddavis
    @ronalddavis 2 часа назад +7

    first rule of navigation. don't drive the ship where the birds are walking

    • @DB-thats-me
      @DB-thats-me 2 часа назад +1

      Is that like the aviation rule.
      Don’t fly into clouds containing mountain goats! 😳😂

  • @bigrobnz
    @bigrobnz 2 часа назад +39

    our shame is complete.......sadly not surprised......this country is so far gone.....

    • @RS-ls7mm
      @RS-ls7mm 2 часа назад +4

      Used to think NZ would be the last country standing.

    • @hoopslaa5235
      @hoopslaa5235 2 часа назад +3

      You’re NZer? Seppo here. Can you tell me more what you mean of why your country to far gone? I’m San Diego32yrs . For reference but born and raised NJ 19yrs . I’m 51. Worked for airlines and been around the world a couple times compared to the average dummy American. So don’t stereos type me that bad! Ha. Brazil South Africa and NZ are a couple of the rare cool countries I have not been to. I have done the whole AUs tho! Took a land train bus from Sydney to Perth, suffered south coast all the way back to Sydney with my Perth mate . Been up thru Cooly and Brisbane twice. So I’ve come close to experiencing your cultures but I know you contend you’re different than Aussies like an Irish to a Scottish haha.
      But please tell us more of what you mean mate!

    • @F-Man
      @F-Man 2 часа назад

      NZ is an utter disaster. It’s - sadly - on my list of places never to go.

    • @sgtbrown4273
      @sgtbrown4273 2 часа назад +7

      Shit happens don't stress over it. However, if the captain was promoted due to factors that didn't have to do with experience, then that would be a HUGE embarrassment.

    • @johnsheaman8057
      @johnsheaman8057 2 часа назад +4

      It's not just NZ, mate.

  • @johnrday2023
    @johnrday2023 2 часа назад +7

    How could hydrographic survey ship hit a well-charted reef in calm weather, catch on fire and then sink? Fortunatly all Royal New Zealand navy personnell were rescued and safe !!!

  • @diraziz396
    @diraziz396 3 часа назад +8

    Thanks Sal

  • @sambowz9077
    @sambowz9077 3 часа назад +27

    That's a hell of a way to do a Hydro graphic survey. 🤣 Everybody gets a medal 🤨
    That's a lot of rust on a Navy ship.

    • @jwb2814
      @jwb2814 3 часа назад +6

      Exactly
      Trophy’s to medals
      🤦‍♂️

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 2 часа назад +3

      Unfortunately, it matches far too many USN ships.

    • @sambowz9077
      @sambowz9077 2 часа назад +3

      @@jwb2814 DEI strikes again

    • @sambowz9077
      @sambowz9077 2 часа назад

      @@Sagart999 SAD

  • @pworker8124
    @pworker8124 2 часа назад +6

    Thankfully no lives were lost.

  • @graemeridge
    @graemeridge 2 часа назад +3

    thank you for the coverage we are a very small country

  • @willemhaifetz-chen1588
    @willemhaifetz-chen1588 2 часа назад +4

    From the faces of the crew on the beach - somebody fucked up big time.

  • @crustyolcoot6646
    @crustyolcoot6646 2 часа назад +28

    Thanks for your common sense report and kind words and support for our navy. The investigation report will be released in 2 months so until then our navy will have to listen to a fair bit of bullshit and undoubtedly punch above their weight in more than the few pub brawls this incident will ignite. Cheers.

    • @bradbutcher3984
      @bradbutcher3984 2 часа назад

      Don't put a lesbian DEI with only 8 years in the navy.

  • @paulus7137
    @paulus7137 2 часа назад +4

    If her quick thinking and wit helped her to make the decision to evacuate the ship, why didn't it help her to prevent it from running around?

  • @joelferguson8714
    @joelferguson8714 2 часа назад +3

    Thanks for the information.

  • @Mentaculus42
    @Mentaculus42 2 часа назад +3

    From gCaptain:
    “With the RNZN’s only salvage ship now in need of salvage itself, one could say the ship has truly embraced its role-perhaps too literally.”

  • @glennpearce7093
    @glennpearce7093 2 часа назад +3

    Thanks bro much respect NZ

  • @MarjanKaykavoosi
    @MarjanKaykavoosi 2 часа назад +5

    Sorry but that has to be embarrassing to lose a ship like that 💙🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @mcburcke
    @mcburcke 3 часа назад +54

    How does a hydrographic survey ship run aground?

    • @randomnickify
      @randomnickify 3 часа назад +37

      Extremely precisely?

    • @purplespeckledappleeater8738
      @purplespeckledappleeater8738 3 часа назад +10

      Sneaky reefs snuck up on the ship.

    • @daveBit15
      @daveBit15 2 часа назад +23

      Easy: start hiring personnel using other than meritocracy standards.

    • @daveBit15
      @daveBit15 2 часа назад +4

      @@randomnickify Damn, you made me spit juice all over my keyboard.

    • @Carlos-im3hn
      @Carlos-im3hn 2 часа назад +7

      Gradually and Then Suddenly ?

  • @FATMAN_tactical
    @FATMAN_tactical 3 часа назад +11

    Did a braille survey

  • @radiosnail
    @radiosnail 2 часа назад +1

    Glad you took a look at this.

  • @andrewpease3688
    @andrewpease3688 2 часа назад +3

    Exact position of reef clearly marked on charts successfully confirmed.

  • @pattern-recognizer14
    @pattern-recognizer14 3 часа назад +60

    Bringing diversity and inclusion to the bottom of the ocean

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 2 часа назад +5

      It would be very interesting to have access to her service record (or at least a list of all her previous postings) to either deny or confirm that. Somehow, I think that will never show up.

    • @PatRiarchy-qw6cp
      @PatRiarchy-qw6cp 2 часа назад +3

      ​@Sagart999 are you assuming her gender? Lol

    • @diquadhumungersaur492
      @diquadhumungersaur492 2 часа назад

      hahahaaaaa :-)

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 2 часа назад +2

      @@Sagart999 Her service is record is impeccable: Female, lesbian.

  •  2 часа назад +21

    This ship has 4 independent engines with an 11,000 bhp total power output, the navy are trying to say that there was a complete loss of power in all 4 engines 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  2 часа назад +10

      The power failure could have been in the control system.

    • @TheLabLimited
      @TheLabLimited 2 часа назад +13

      @@wgowshipping specifically the one directly under the captains hat?

    • @Georgewilliamherbert
      @Georgewilliamherbert 2 часа назад +1

      Many modern ships are diesel electric, with podded electric engine propeller units or inboard electric motors able to be driven from any engine generator.
      If a fault takes the bus down…

    • @JimmySailor
      @JimmySailor 2 часа назад +1

      It’s not the number of generators that matters if the grid itself fails. Almost all ships are designed with two independent grids for reliability, one of which is an “Emergency” grid. But electrical systems are fiendishly difficult to maintain and program. Pulling a ship out of service to test every possible scenario can take days or even weeks and it’s typically beyond the abilities of the mariners themselves.

    • @MarkD-pl4fu
      @MarkD-pl4fu 2 часа назад +1

      Any time something goes wrong, then blame the ship! Back in the old days the old man was responsible for everything, but now the woman is not responsible for anything. It's 2024 after all.

  • @robg9236
    @robg9236 2 часа назад +3

    The US navy's way ahead of the New Zealanders. We can lose a ship without it even getting underway.

  • @Malama_Ki
    @Malama_Ki 2 часа назад +2

    This tends to happen when the bridge talks to the engine room with two coconuts with a string in between….

  • @Sagart999
    @Sagart999 2 часа назад +4

    Ran aground because the ship lost power? Whatever happened to having all systems online when near things that look like dirt? At a minimum, you would have thought they had heard SOMETHING about the MV Dali collision in Baltimore.

  • @doomey22a
    @doomey22a Час назад +1

    Solid effort on the Reo Maori pronunciation Sal - we appreciate it!

  • @tomsemmens6275
    @tomsemmens6275 2 часа назад +4

    The most amazing thing about this event has been the number of guys who loudly tell us all how much love Jesus and who have names like Chad and Todd coming from places like North Carolina with zero connection with NZ appear convinced the captain is to blame because she is a female and gay.

    • @lbf5984
      @lbf5984 2 часа назад +2

      No, she's to blame because she is incompetent...

  • @desydukuk291
    @desydukuk291 2 часа назад +2

    The Captain is always responsible for saving her own life and the lives of the crew, fantastic naval tradition.

    • @darbyohara
      @darbyohara Час назад

      Uh no. A good captain doesn’t put their ship in that dangerous position

  • @willemhaifetz-chen1588
    @willemhaifetz-chen1588 2 часа назад +4

    The captain / commander is always responsible.

    • @stoerenungeheuer543
      @stoerenungeheuer543 2 часа назад

      The same goes for a skipper. I like this challenge, for example when I ferry people across the river. I am responsible for their safety and the safety of other traffic.

  • @MikeyColon
    @MikeyColon 3 часа назад +46

    Word on the street was the captain is a dei hire and 4 years experience on a 150 million dollar ship is crazy.

    • @drakepassage4255
      @drakepassage4255 2 часа назад +18

      Yep and an ex elementary teacher and want to be restaurant owner becomes a line officer and given a first command after two years. Go figure Oh add, first lebos captain.

    • @donoimdono2702
      @donoimdono2702 2 часа назад +5

      some articles claim she has 8 total years in navy, but most of them not afloat.
      still not enough to command a large vessel.

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  2 часа назад +9

      She started in the Royal Navy in 1993 as a surface warfare officer. She transferred to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 2012. She has served on frigates and mine hunters. This is her first command.

    • @JohnSmith-vi5pz
      @JohnSmith-vi5pz 2 часа назад +7

      @@drakepassage4255 Oh, not let's worry about such trivialities - the box ticking is more important!

    • @mb4451
      @mb4451 2 часа назад +3

      @@wgowshipping That's 31 years of experience, for those spreading disinformation here in the comments

  • @barrycuda3769
    @barrycuda3769 2 часа назад +3

    Might have been distracted by a map of Tassie.

  • @stoneageart9965
    @stoneageart9965 2 часа назад +99

    The Captain
    Trained as a teacher,ran a failed restaurant,joined the NZ navy 8 yrs ago and hired by our government over experienced officers

    • @an-tm3250
      @an-tm3250 2 часа назад +58

      The officers can toast to the success of DEI today.

    • @eire711
      @eire711 2 часа назад +23

      She looks shocked that the water is actually wet.

    • @robmanueb.
      @robmanueb. 2 часа назад +7

      You forget the 19 years in the Royal Navy.

    • @Sagart999
      @Sagart999 2 часа назад +15

      As an American, it struck me as very odd that NZ would hire a Brit over promoting one of their own. Does this represent some sort of long-term practice? Just curious.

    • @qtrfoil
      @qtrfoil 2 часа назад +3

      You're a liar.

  • @josephpadula2283
    @josephpadula2283 3 часа назад +6

    Looks like Junior Soprano joined the NZ Navy ?

  • @TargaWheels
    @TargaWheels 2 часа назад +3

    That kava must have been something else!!

  • @KenOath42
    @KenOath42 Час назад

    Daylight, calm waters, light winds. The commander is a hero for braving such treacherous conditions!

  • @reclhoss
    @reclhoss 3 часа назад +11

    Predictable

  • @PelicanIslandLabs
    @PelicanIslandLabs 2 часа назад +2

    Ouch............. that captain is going to be fired/retired for sure! The only question now is how long before the official report is released.

  • @Rigglz123
    @Rigglz123 2 часа назад +4

    Very sad and how could this happen ? at least no one was seriously injured

  • @thatdave86
    @thatdave86 2 часа назад +3

    New Zealand back in the News again ,are qe now famous?
    Two small Island's in the Pacific, surrounded by water ,and NZ known for our Sailing abilities (America's Cup ).
    One must ask how ships with so much technology on board end up making contact with land , reef's,etc .

  • @stevenakn1
    @stevenakn1 2 часа назад +3

    Guess we can't trust the surveys anymore. Do it over.

  • @gnoelalexmay
    @gnoelalexmay Час назад

    Good video, thanks for the details 👍

  • @RacecarSpelledBackwards71
    @RacecarSpelledBackwards71 Час назад +2

    Diversity is Your Strength & also Sinks Ships.

  • @martinbonham
    @martinbonham 2 часа назад +3

    One Correction at 5 min 12 seconds. King Charles's visit hasn't happened yet, it is happening later this month. Samoa is hosting the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting, CHOGM from 21-26 October 2024. I believe it will be first one he has attended since he became King. I have heard a radio report saying the Manawanui was surveying directly offshore from the hotel where is supposed to be staying.

  • @k9killer221
    @k9killer221 2 часа назад +9

    How do you know your Navy is really small? Include two RIBs as part of the fleet order of battle. New Zealand doesn't lack money for the Navy. The woke politicians endemic to that county won't give any money for defence.

    • @schlookie
      @schlookie 2 часа назад +1

      We used to have an army with tanks and an airforce with fighter jets. Unfortunately woke politicians have put paid to all that.

  • @heyidiot
    @heyidiot 2 часа назад +11

    They've already named the replacement vessel: _Ganawananuwon_

    • @Longhunter393
      @Longhunter393 2 часа назад

      That’s hilarious, well played, well played.

  • @eecarolinee
    @eecarolinee 2 часа назад +3

    I hereby venture the speculation that people are WAY too used to blindly relying on electronic navigation.
    Failure to do basic visual navigation in restricted waters is probably going to be part of the problem.
    Former QMOW/navigator watchstander.... USCG.... back in he 1970s.
    Served on a 210', we calibrated the Loran C system with visual nav... such as three arm protractors and horizontal sextant angles. Super accurate.
    Watching people stare at screens and do zero visual double-checking is mind-boggling level of trust in a single system when near to shore.
    Or so it seem to me.

    • @CaptRR
      @CaptRR Час назад

      Or the command crew was incompetent.

  • @madogllewellyn
    @madogllewellyn 2 часа назад +1

    Very sad and unfortunately probably going to be embarrassing for the Royal New Zealand Navy once the investigation is completed.

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer6403 2 часа назад +4

    "A wave of incidents" nice dad joke

  • @CaptApple
    @CaptApple 2 часа назад

    That's some fine surveying there, Lou.

  • @beetlefang
    @beetlefang 3 часа назад +4

    Flight of the Conchords new album material.

  • @matthewrowe9903
    @matthewrowe9903 2 часа назад +3

    Sal can you not lend them your globe if they cannot read a chart maybe the colours and big friendly edges will help them if they ever get a new boat

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 Час назад

    Thanks for the update. Interview without coffee for someone.

  • @SSpees
    @SSpees 2 часа назад +1

    So many types of vessels. So much could go wrong. Experience, best practices in sea navigation, lack of information on the coastal depths.

  • @philfortner1805
    @philfortner1805 2 часа назад +3

    Newsflash: New Zealand goes to war with reef!

    • @DB-thats-me
      @DB-thats-me Час назад

      Follow up news….
      Reef wins in record time. Video referee not required.

  • @kingdomrains
    @kingdomrains Час назад +1

    I am surprised as everyone else to discover New Zealand had a navy.

  • @MarineCorpzor1
    @MarineCorpzor1 2 часа назад +27

    DEI Hires at their finest.

  • @MartinVanPomeren
    @MartinVanPomeren 2 часа назад +1

    Everyone makes mistakes, unfortunately some people make everyones mistakes. Unbelievable!!!!!!

  • @tomjohnson6036
    @tomjohnson6036 2 часа назад +1

    I was part of an international military exercise that was taking place in the Pacific. One of the bays we wanted to use hadn’t been surveyed so we were trying to see if the Navy Mobile Construction Battalion could do that prior to the exercise. Got told there was a ton of diplomacy that had to happen before one country could conduct a survey in another countries waters. I agree the survey work was probably just a cover story for supporting the monarchs visit.

  • @isellcatlitter
    @isellcatlitter 3 часа назад +20

    the LGHTV loses 20% of their Navy in one Thespian...

  • @captjay7823
    @captjay7823 Час назад +2

    The Commander is a Lesbian DEI hire and she trashed a 150 million dollar Vessel, enough is enough. . Please consider Experienced White Men to Captain your ships.

  • @MrWolfblitz25
    @MrWolfblitz25 2 часа назад +3

    It's not our largest ship, if we did lose the largest that would be quite the problem! See HMNZS Aotearoa

    • @PatRiarchy-qw6cp
      @PatRiarchy-qw6cp 2 часа назад +1

      It's still a big problem when your navy has so few ships

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  2 часа назад

      My mistake.

    • @lesliegossner681
      @lesliegossner681 2 часа назад

      ​@PatRiarchy-qw6cp Realistically NZ is a tiny country population wise. They are unlikely to have a large navy.
      Their population is about the same size as Sydney.

    • @johnsobaszko1700
      @johnsobaszko1700 2 часа назад

      ​@lesliegossner681 an island nation should make the navy their #1priority. NZ starves their whole military of funds. They aren't poor, they just spend their money on other stuff.

  • @ProducerGio
    @ProducerGio 2 часа назад

    My daily news from Dr. M

  • @PubliusUSA
    @PubliusUSA 2 часа назад +2

    The Captain said "Oops."

    • @bradbutcher3984
      @bradbutcher3984 2 часа назад +2

      No, she yelled, "women and lesbians first". 😂

    • @MarkD-pl4fu
      @MarkD-pl4fu 2 часа назад +1

      "Ocean is sexist!" When does she get another ship?

  • @mikerobbins3692
    @mikerobbins3692 2 часа назад

    Good Afternoon Sal.

  • @doctordave4247
    @doctordave4247 2 часа назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @mickmegson6241
    @mickmegson6241 2 часа назад +1

    This is absolutely shocking, New Zealand has a navy?

  • @markgouthro7375
    @markgouthro7375 2 часа назад +2

    How did the RNZN go from having a 18,000 ton battlecruiser to their largest ship being

    • @DB-thats-me
      @DB-thats-me Час назад

      Those who serve are not paid enough. Those who are smart enough to serve are smart enough not to for the money on offer. If you pay peanuts, only monkeys remain.

  • @sailorgabbie
    @sailorgabbie 2 часа назад

    I worked on RAINIER and FAIRWEATHER. both vessels 50 years old and slated to be replaced (i believe those are under construction). The survey launches are 29' aluminum prop driven with Cummins diesels. Full suite of electronics and even a head. Very capable boats. They go out a full 8 to 10 hour day because 50 gallons of diesel lasts when surveying.
    One of my YT videos is on RAINIER as we depart San Francisco.

  • @princesslithium
    @princesslithium 2 часа назад +7

    Before this incident there was another one involving an all female US NAVY flight crew who crashed a P-8 "Poseidon" out of Hawaii.

    • @DB-thats-me
      @DB-thats-me 2 часа назад +1

      Therefore almost ALL OUTER ACCIDENTS had an all male crew.
      What’s your point?

    • @hoopslaa5235
      @hoopslaa5235 2 часа назад

      Link??