Space Shuttle Combustion Chamber
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2023
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Today we're looking at how the regenerative cooling channels on Space Shuttle's main combustion chamber were manufactured. They used a combination of conventional machining with electroplating, in a really clever technique to mimic what we can do with 3D printing nowadays.
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my dude looking like a mad scientist who hasnt left the lab in 7 years
For a second I thought Grizzly Adams hijacked BT's channel.
Lab is life
Humans are gross anyway
Mad scientist 😂 you watch too many cartoons kid
Hey my dude, if he's ur dude you need to go out and make some real friends, one mad scientist to my dude
They were mad. "They want us to build what?! To go WHERE?! ON THAT BUDGET?!?!?"
You had me at "its the 1970's and you're an engineer at NASA"
"Imagine this, it's the 1970s and you're an engineer at Rocketdyne."
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@@yevrahas “Imagine this, it’s the 1970s and you’re an engineer at Kerbodyne.”
To conceptualize something that is not possible to produce and then finding a way to produce it anyway is magic.
Because it wasn't actually impossible to produce. The lost wax technique has been a thing forever.
Welcome to the world of engineering. We didn't develop the modern machines we use today just for fun, lol. Everything was developed to make something specific and others then found other uses for them or built on to them.
@@shelbyseelbach9568 I think what they mean by that is most of those rockets and engines were One-Offs. they were custom built on the fly and even today we can not just simply remake many of those rocket motors.
@@MrBishop077 Why would you think that was what they meant, it certainly wasn't what they said?
It's so cool and exciting. I wanna learn more
Wow, obviously everyone talking about the original engineering, but I wanna take a moment to appreciate that model replication! That was an awesome demonstration, very informative short
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Soon it will be like working on cars 👁️ in different aspects
When you can’t get an original video of the manufacturing then fuck it make your own 🤣
Wax is such an underrated material, it makes so many incredible things possible, from art with lost wax casting, to precision engineering, in the case of this example.
Right
Glass too, many experiments are possible because of specially engineered glass and other crystals like quartz tubes. It's a whole art and science in of itself. I know this from Dr. Angela Collier on youtube lol
i thinks greeks wrote with it
That's why bees make it.
@@traceycolbert3635 lol
Omg that’s how they did it! I saw other videos about the cooling channels, but I didn’t know how they manufactured them. Awesome video.
Manufacturing ease makes it a breeze〜
A little detail that was left out in the short version - he put graphite in the wax to make it conductive for the electroplating process. At NASA they also used a special wax to avoid any carbon deposits from forming when it was heated and melted.
Same! This is the first video I've seen that explains it. I'd never have considered electroplating over wax.
@@DFPercush my mind immediately nudged me about the wax during the electroplating part, asking "how'd he do that?!" Haha
This is really fascinating and so simple. No matter how simple to do something new takes someone clever.
Human ingenuity has no limits.
"Humans in the 1970s don't have 3D printing, so it must aliens!"
-Some idiot in the future
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Human ability has no limits, you said..
Actual no !!! Humains are very limited, just check the history, each time humains becaume powerfull they follow desires and return back to the stone age 😂😂😂 .
@@technomax409 bro is onto nothing 🔥🔥
At first, I was worried that the part would be cast entirely from wax. This is very clever in that it avoids the brittleness of casting-something very bad for the high loading and severe vibrations the part would experience.
Had no idea electroplating was this functional. Always thought it was for very small coats/gilding. Never seen it used for manufacturing. Thanks!
It's a Process similar to the way
Stampers and Masters are made to produce Phonograph Records!
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your intuition is mostly right, it takes a ridiculous amount of time to build up a macroscopic layer like this, days for this, even more on the real thing.
@@Taygetealuckily the shuttle engines didn't have to be produced in bulk
This is a technology that is still not fully developed. We found other ways, such a the 3d printing mentioned to do this. But chemical milling and building up by plating can do things that are not possible in any other way.
Same! I wouldn't have thought that the resulting product would be able to physically stand up to the conditions of a shuttle combustion chamber, but I guess it depends on the particular metal/alloy and the properties of the specific crystalline phase that is deposited by the plating process. You learn something new every day 🤷🏼♂️ (if you're open to it, that is)
As a Toolmaker, this is brilliant and I love it
Don't capitalize random words lest you mildly annoy me.
@@helloyes2288what? Do you need mental help?
@@helloyes2288why should they care if they annoy you, also the capitalization wasn’t really random. Just capitalized the first letter, a noun, and i
@@erazn9077 A reasonable answer to that question would be something like “if I’m mildly annoyed then presumably other more polite people are holding back from telling them their weird capitalization is annoying even when it annoys them.” However why should I care why they should care about them mildly annoying me? I suggest they care without me giving them a reason.
(Also “Toolmaker” shouldn’t be capitalized unless he’s saying something like “as a member of the Toolmaker family” or something like that)
😳cool kea chain
Damn… that’s kinda badass. I’m a mechanical engineering student and I don’t know what I’d do without the fabrication technology of today. I grew up woodworking, so I understand pre-industrial revolution ingenuity, and modern fabrication methods, but there’s a 400ish year gap in there where I am just amazed at how clever humans were.
And that is how we end up with lost technologies.
This process in this video is one of the oldest known casting methods.
Try 4,000 years
This short cracked my "top 10 most interesting shorts I've ever seen" list
I just leaned the other day how the Saturn V guidance computer was built prior to modern transistors. Engineers back then were built different 🧠
Share the title/ keywords so others can search the video
@@johnchristian7788 Smarter every day and there's one video with smarter everyday and linus tech tips
A modern desk calculator has more technology than the computer on the Apollo missions.
They used their heads and figured it out.
@@javier.villatoro that’s a myth - they’re not really comparable
That practical demonstration is such a powerful aid
This is why the internet was invented, great content like this
As someone who is literally 3d printing both rocket nozzles and combustion chambers with cooling channels, seeing this oldskool method being used is really cool!
My Grandad was a brass moulder, this was his stock in trade.
same
I’d have loved to learn about it from him.
Lost wax casting dates from at least the Varna Necropolis in Bulgaria (c. 4550-4450 BC). The Indus Valley civilization also had this technology
Many ancient civilizations of that time had similar techniques, IVC is one of them
This is not lost wax, unless you think that the indus valley had electro plating
@@jb76489 the Baghdad battery is believed to have been used for electroplating. Don’t know if Mohenjo-Daro had one though
@@isaackellogg3493 the absolute fuck it is. there is not a single piece of evidence for that whatsoever
@@jb76489 this was news to me, but review of Wikipedia seems to support your rebuttal. I withdraw the assertion
The lost wax method of casting was a marvelous development. So intricate!
And truly old . This video claims using wax as placeholder for future cavities in the metal, which is a different method probably invented for other hollow objects back in the day .
Can't wait for micro thrust testing of the engine!
Define micro thrust
@@syriansayf only a little bit of thrust
@@syriansayf Ask your wife
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@@deactive0lto247 Donkey's/Goats/Sheep and Horses can't talk back to @سيف الله السوري
That’s absolutely fucking outstanding. I have never been more proud of my profession as an engineer.
How’d they stop the copper engine from melting????
@@NotAFingBootlicker the wax channels that were made now have liquid oxygen running through them to keep the motor cool.
@@McFingal If I'm not mistaken, it also warms up the oxygen for combustion.
@@NotAFingBootlicker that’s what the channels were for. They piped coolant through those to prevent exactly that.
How can you say "I'm an engineer" by sayinging "I'm an engineer"...
Respect for engineers throughout time, some problems almost seem impossible except for the few cheeky guys that said hold my beer.
The ability to design something is always impressive but as an engineer the ability to manufacture things has always been truly inspiring because without that ability a design means nothing!
I had to do similar things when working as a consultant and problem solver for "industrial manufacturers". I started mostly by accident after advising and designing manufacturing procedures for a lot of jewelry makers in the Atlanta market. Both in their local and international workshops. Strangely enough something I revisited recently. Super fun to hear a design idea and try to develop a way to make it happen. Especially five and ten years ago when 3D printing technology and other processes weren't so cheap and readily available at Great precision.... To the unwashed masses like myself.
And then somehow fell backwards into something similar... but more focused towards r&d labs and small precision manufacturing. Kind of like the ultimate mix of material science and systems engineering... With a healthy dose of metrology equipment troubleshooting/calibration. It really is a dream come true for a cretin like myself ... to get to work around so many interesting , genius, and weird folks. Just goes to show...pester people long enough... And you might get something out of it! 😂
Lost wax process. Turbine blades are cast in the inverse way. Create a wax model, spray with fine slurry then heat wax to lose it, cast metal into cavity, brake off slurry shell to reveal the part. Wax is an awesome tool.
that's what they did with brass naval guns back in the day.
Using a pre-bronze age sculpting technique to build a spaceship. Pretty wild.
I installed the laser printing machine that is used to create turbine blades today.
@@larrysorenson4789 Cool! 👍
Still one of the coolest things I've learned in years
Wow that is super clever and intuitive; you think everything having to do with the space program involves insanely complex manufacturing, but this is such a simple way to accomplish their goals and it's not hard to wrap your head around it at all
Only when the human mind is creating like this it is doing what it should.
We are here simply to exist then die. What’s in between is what you make or it. There is no purpose
@@skievl23 Alright, let's assume there is no point to life. We are left with three options:
1. strive for nothing
2. strive for things that impact the world positively
3. strive for things that impact the world negatively
If life has no meaning anyway, option 1 is boring, option 2 can lead to interesting things happening, and option 3 can also lead to interesting things but makes it harder for future generations to go with option 2.
I don't think striving for the great is the human mind doing what "it should", per se, but I do agree using your the human mind in this way is the best option anyhow.
@@skievl23everything exists for a purpose. That is the law of the world. If a river exists, it has to flow. If fire exists, it will burn.
Air is what supports the eagle's flight, what can resist a meteor's might, and what supports every terrestrial life. Yet we can never see it.
Even if people can never see your effort & its results. Know that someone appreciates it.
Every element has a purpose, and you're made from those very elements. So why can't you have a purpose?
@@krishnachoubey8648i guess i'll answer even though i'm not the guy you responded to.
It's because i view ourselves as too insignificant and i view the universe (or the all powerful being who created this universe) as a cold apathetic thing which doesn't care about us. And while some may view this as bad, there's the upside of the fact that we're not constrained by the wants of another entity, and thst we can choose our own purpose and wants in life.
And your statements regarding each element has a purpose and the words before that. That's simply a conflict of beliefs regarding how the universe works, because to me everything of what you said are simply the results of matter interacting within a set of rules inside the universe after an extreme length of time has passed and the way the biology of birds evolved in such a way as to be able to fly (for the eagle one).
While there's more regarding on why i view that we don't have any inherent purpose, i have things to do along with not articulate being enough to say anything more without thinking a lot and i'm not bothered enough to do that.
@@Adrian-Trivani I feel like this was both agreeing and disagreeing here... While I agree with you about defining one's own purpose, I feel like the part about matter interacting with matter was kind of their point, just they said it in simpler terms. However, this topic is more convoluted by the idea of what defines a purpose in general, since it is a concept that is roughly open to interpretation. Although I still feel like their implied point was that essentially sometimes things just exist to interact/react with something else, even if it is a small reaction...
Not only that! The onboard computer's CPU is considered to be a groundbreaking thing of that time! And of course, rightfully it was!
And Japanese cars in the mid 80s had more computing power for the engine that what they used on the Appollo missions, and today we have phones in our pockets that could control 120,000,000 Appollo rockets at the same time.
@@stevegraham3817 and yet we cant go back to the moon because we dont have the tech anymore?
@@-pauI-nobody said its because we don't have tech. Its funding.
@paul they never said they lost the technology to make these.. or anything for that matter. Yall read into it completely wrong and yall have been running with the wrong assumption for years. Please, if you don't understand technology, leave it to the rest of us who do. Don't think to hard, might destroy your brain from all the pot that stunted your growth
@@-pauI- Tech doesn't imply compute. And even just talking about hardware that's misleading. We can't just build more Saturn Vs, mainly because a lot of the parts were made by individuals in a per piece fashion, hence without that knowledge you will have a hard time just building another one.
It is truly incredible how additive manufacturing has advanced in just the last decade alone. 3D printing fully finished metal parts has gone from theoretical to fairly common. Our world will never be the same once this technology gets cheap enough for everyone to use it in their daily lives.
the ingenuity it took to get things done that today we can just hit enter and wait for is always neat to see
Automation and AI will be humanity’s undoing
_“Once we started thinking for you, it became our world” - Agent Smith, Matrix_
They had insane confidence
The F-1 engines were made by Rocketdyne, not NASA. My grandfather worked there at the time and I have a gold F-1 engine lapel pin that they'd given him after the first Apollo mission. They used to test rocket engines up at a facility nearby in the mountains surrounding the valley we are in. This went on until very early 2000's - the entire valley would shake during these ~3 minutes of testing the rocket engines at full blast. The facility was called the Santa Susana Field Laboratory, which also had a nuclear meltdown on an experimental reactor General Atomics was running, venting it straight into the air and kept hidden for ~20 years....
Patrolling the comments almost make you wish for a nuclear winter
The Space Shuttle used the RS-25 engine, not the F-1. Still Rocketdyne (now Aerojet Rocketdyne) but not the F-1
Who mentioned F1 engines 🤫🤫
They showing video of the space shuttle …. No wait .. they’re not ..
They are showing video of the Saturn five it looks like to me which has the F1 nobody said F one but they’re showing it in the video
@@richardmillhousenixonThey said they have a F-1 engine pin, not the exact engine that was used, or tested. They didn't specify the engine at all, only that they had a F-1 engine pin.
We’re so blessed as a species to even have minds that can come up with such wild ideas
I love that Engineering adopted material processes from the jewellery industry. Our tolerances in jewellery manufacturer lends itself so well to aerospace.
It was not only a big problem to make this part, I'm 100% sure it was great pain in the ass for the quality control to check all of this inner pipes for tolerances and overall tightness. Can imagine amount of hard work and bright minds to make this thing real
First thought that came to mind, use water and measure the volume. Or to be overly complicated, maybe something with fluid dynamics that has to do with flow.
@@captaincannabis3321 Water amount is good, even better is a thermographic camera that films while cold and hot water is pumped alternately through. You see every single channel when you set the color scale to a small temperature range like 25-35 °C and pump the water with > 10 bars
Now THIS is interesting. I want a whole channel of little engineering Easter eggs like this!
Love the practical demo!
Best decade for nozzle design. Good tunes on the radio.
I would love to see a comparison of strengths between the electroplated option vs the 3d printed one. I know that 3d printed metal has come along way in the last few years, but I believe there are still some kinks left to work out
holy shit you upped your production quality significantly! You got yourself a place in my favorite creators on here together with Huygens optics and applied sci
That's some high praise, thanks! Really love both of those channels!
@@BreakingTaps don’t get fooled for a second by your admirable humility; you are very very much up there
Damn, your color grading is so popping yet so not overdone it's astonishing and jaw dropping to me anytime, your videos chromatically look better than some tripple A movies imho
I just freacking love your content! This isn't my first time commenting this but I just can't help it, for example the shot of you looks JUST SO GOOD COLOR WISE
🥰🥰🥰 Thanks! I also thought this one turned out looking really nice, so makes me happy other folks appreciated it too!
@@BreakingTaps Always, glad that my comment made it's way to you.
Yes, I really admire your work, colorwise and especially content wise.
I hope you will never stop pushing out RUclips content, you are my favorite channel, by a big margin!
Ok, I had to watch again to get to the shot. I am not a cinematographer or anything of the sort, but I noticed, too (in the back of my mind, almost subconsciously). Reading this comment brought the impression to the fore.
Totally agree.
@@rkwatchauralnautsjediparty7303 :D That's the beauty of creation and art, if you do it right, people won't notice concioulsy but wi still love it. Your comment makes me really happy, it's awesome how you described the gradient from subconsciously finding it great and then conciously noticing
Seeing how complex space engine parts are 3D printed is awesome 👍. Makes leaps in engineering possible
This is the same basic way we worked out how to make microchips. It's simply brilliant, in every connotation of those words.
I’m glad I watched your video prior to this short, now I know, how much time and work this takes and can appreciate the effort put in
So damn cool! I love learning about manufacturing and developments of any new process! Thank you for giving me a quick glimpse into this
amazing how they produced it, thanks for the video
"Are you faithful?"
"Moderately so"
Would love to see other lost manufacturing processes like "doping"
Making Dreamliners and A350s from impregnated carbon fibre isn't too far from doping canvas with shellac
It's crazy they managed to fit so much power in such a small, 3-inch long engine.
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The power comes from having a tiny hole between the raging fire and the nozzle that expands the flame to hundreds of times wider .
Wow, thats incredible. People can really make things that are more technological and advanced than we could produce, thanks to such original and non-trivial methods
The ingenuity amazes me. A fusion of manufacturing processes.
Bro, you essentially built the heart of a space shuttle engine at your house?! What? 😮 Fantastic work!!
yeah, at about 1/1000th of the size :-D
@@maxnaz47 It's not the scale of the whale but the sails on the space ship... Actually, I got nothing. Haha 😂
We can 3d print metal? Damn thats crazy!
Yes. We actually can print whole rockets right now. Check Relativity Space. They just not long ago launched Terran 1, first fully 3d printed rocket. Now they are moved to Terran R, reusable medium launch vehicle, also 3d printed.
They can 3D print houses with concrete, too.
@@Iowagrown123 very poorly and without any reinforcement, I don't think anyone will buy those ice cream slop houses
The engines of the Rocket Lab satellite launchers are all 3D printed then baked in a furnace. Any failed Rocket Lab launches have not involved engine cracking/break-up.
@@DDDadToTheBone those houses are for now just pathfinders, and I agree, they are not particularly pretty rn. Concrete printing is still matter of future, not today.
As for machinery, metal, 3d printing is extremely efficient tech that allows to produce elements that are not possible to create with any other technology at least as single parts. Machining allows to work with much harder materials, casting is much quicker than 3d printing, etc, but 3d printed elements can be incredibly precise, with extremely complicated inner structure, also with multiple materials.
All i gotta say is the final result is beautiful
…you look outside and everyone’s happy. You take your brand new Chevy down to the plant and begin work. What a time to be alive
Yep. It's similar to lost-wax casting, but using electroplating as an additive process instead of trying to cast something that intricate. It's still pretty amazing that they came up with that method and even produced an electrically conductive wax to allow it to plate onto the wax and bridge over the entire surface.
Amazing display of modern ingenuity.
Thank you I was just telling people we don't have these kind of artisans at that skill level anymore for commercial work
It really puts into perspective why it was so hard to make a rocket to go to space and why they failed so often
Finally, a short that delivers!! Thank you for great content
Human ingenuity will never cease to amaze me. It really does seem like there is no such thing as impossible, only things not yet important enough to have created a solution for
Editor: Its Impossible to make with traditional tools.
Ancient structures: let us introduce ourself
Thanks for making this scaled representation
The mind of man is an amazing thing to be both admired and feared.
Nice .. can’t imagine the work that goes into preparing space shuttles !
I went to school with the son of one of the original engineers of the shuttle program!
And I’m just a Simple Country Boy.
But Damn Proud !
I couldn't imagine how massive the etching tub is
Blows my mind they made it to the moon with their tech....
Human ingenuity never ceases to amaze. If there’s a will, there’s a way!
I love this. I work in a dental lab and we are old school. Wax up dentures and make plaster molds. Then melt wax and replace with plastic. We also used to make frameworks they would wax and cast
"we struggle to make it using technology we have today"
people from the past: *wax*
That’s crazy, and the person who invented this method/decided to electroplate is genius.
I always thought about how to do this. Never knew it was a thing. Now I know. Thanks for sharing!
I'm simply awestruck at these manufacturing process with out using modern machines.
They were damn blacksmiths in context of time. Magick
Its really sick that you actually used the same method
Human Ingenuity never ceases to surprise me!
Damn there's a reason people relate being smart with being a rocket scientist
This is so cool. Love learning stuff like this. Who woulda thought!
That’s truly incredible
My dad was a tool & die designer at NASA on the early rocket projects. Later he worked for the airplane industry working Bull Pup Rocket and many other rocket projects. His toolbox always had wax in it.
'you work for nasa, you need to manufacture something that is impossible"
"Mr Kubrick ? we got an offer to make you ..."
Wow, how cool and thoroughly interesting!!?
my son works at an electroplating department, at a facility that uses 'coopernickle' alloy to produce parts for some kind of defense contractors...
*one of the coolest things he ever gave me, is not really a part that they make, but a type of overplating object that inevitably occurs when the material builds up on the cathode or anode in the plating solution tank. It's a shape much like a dendritic tree, or something. It's super strong and has some interesting properties as it's made from the alloy. I'm making a necklace from it, and giving it to him for his birthday this year.*
Cool videos, and great channel!!
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Me, when saw a preview: oooh! A short about cocktails. What a cool jigger😂
My grandfather had 27 different things he invented for the Saturn 5 rockets when he worked at the Skunkworks in Burbank. He had 35 in the SR-71 and 13 in the U2.
I just discovered your channel just now, I had to subscribe, I love stuff like this!😊
Cool replica. Thanks for sharing your process.
Wow, good job. That actually works. I bet it felt good seeing the wax expelled knowing you had done it right.
Jerry: "of course it flies its a space shuttle!"
Back when master craftsmen and tool makers ruled the roost
Working for a jewlery company we use a wax injection machine to make the components. It's pretty cool stuff. Wax is so underrated.
😊. This is similar to how the bells we use at my work are made. And the machining of the holes directions to allow air to spin it in different directions. 😮. Just amazing. Also the amount of engineering that goes into engine baring. Would blow peoples minds. If u look at the blue print,,, u would think 🤔 u were building a house 😊
I love seeing the tools to make tools!😊
The fact that we were making these things 50 years ago is insane.
That's ingenious I have to say! We live in some pretty amazing times right now. But I have a lot of respect for the people who were doing this kind of stuff without the tools we have today.
That was mad impressive, brother
That’s exactly part of my job. Super alloy castings and Additive Manfucaturing of hot blades.
So cool, I love innovation. Making the “impossible” possible
That's fascinating! Imagine how much more sophisticated the Apollo vehicles could have been if they were built today. Just the computer tech alone would have been awesome.