Yep. She's also trying to do too much. Indycar, F3, MRF challenge, world series formula v8, F2, le mans series, super formula, and now she wants to get into WEC as well. She changes series every year, or two years, and even when she doesn't switch series, she switches teams. Just as she gets used to the machinery, its time to learn a new one, almost always in a new culture, in a new country, often in a new continent. She is 27, in March she'll be 28, these are the best years of her racing life, she needs to find some series she really likes and stick with it...
@@csanadhorvath Most likely she is and has been overestimating her own potential and skills as a racing driver. Perhaps in her mind, she regards herself as the next Michele Mouton. She is nowhere near to be an oustanding racer, and myself being Colombian, I can tell that she is not highly recognized in our home country at all. Sadly, not even the best Colombian racing driver ever, Juan Pablo Montoya, receives the respect and admiration earned through an exceptional legacy.
AND many people like to shit about ''diversity'' even though it's not like anyone's stopping females from racing, they just don't want to, or can't keep up, because the average woman is biologically less strong than the average male, and one more thing, If Danica Patrick was a male, she wouldn't be heard of in motorsports, ever.
@Subkash Mahaveer is not in F1 because he would win races that wouldn't even happen yet and he would win races that already happened. If he was in F1, the space time continum would collapse. That is why, he is too powerful for this or even upper plane of existence. Long story short: Mahaveer Ragunathan would be too powerful for Formula 1.
@@AceShadowbloodcivic they're all pretty fast. Everything is relative. Josh makes it sound like they're all 20 minutes per lap off of the pace because it's better for the videos, but in reality, all of these drivers are likely faster than he is
The black screen moment when mentioning Hubert was a nice touch. My brain still does that whenever he's mentioned in this type of context. A sort of 'oh fuck that's still true' moment.
Hey, Colombian here, I wanted to give some insight about our motorsports situation and Tatiana Calderón. First and foremost, Colombia is a poor country when it comes to motorsports, there´s few options really to get noticed unless you go abroad. Montoya did this correctly and because he pretty much said many times that he wasn't very thankful to the Colombian sports association, he's not very liked here, unless you're a die-hard racing fan. The only sport that is supported here is football and BMX only if your name is Mariana Pajón. That being said, as much as I'd like to see another Montoya being an absolute beast in CART-Indycar and F1, Calderón is not it. She's really solid and has shown progress, but much like young drivers in NASCAR, she's being rushed just for marketing sake. I fear that she's gonna become the next Danica Patrick and we know how that ended. I see Tatiana Calderón becaming a solid sports car racer, either in IMSA or the LeMans series. Formula 1 or Formula 2 worthy? Not, unless she really has a break trhough season. Alfa Romeo/Sauber is just making her a marketing tool and there's nothing wrong with it, but she really should focus in other disciplines and excell there, like sports cars where she can stay for a long time and prove her worth. I don't want to see another Danica, much less coming from my country where very few drivers even got a chance or others just fade away, like Carlos Muñoz or Gustavo Yacamán. At this point, Colombia's best next prospect is Sebastián Montoya, but Calderón can be a great pole bearer for our flag in other racing series, if she commits to them instead of marketing her as the next female F1 driver.
She being supported by Escuderia Telmex program, the ame program that supports Sergio Perez all their way to F1, along with Pietro and Enzo Fittipaldi, we may see her end on LMP/GT or WTCR racing, if not a strong LATAM series like the NASCAR Mexico, Brazilian Stock car or any Argentina series, her effort has been amazing through time
Also Colombian here: let's not fool ourselves, Tatiana is where she is and has the kind of support she has only because of her family name. She's related to our ex-president and her family has a very strong economic and political influence thanks to their relation with the Sergio Arboleda University. She has received an amount of support that no other driver in this country ever has, not even Juan Pablo Montoya himself...and the only guy he could beat in F2 was Mahaveer Ragunathan? Give me a break. Some say Montoya's dad had to get a mortgage on his house in Prado in order to afford his kid's racing career in Europe and if Juan Pablo failed then that would've put the family in dire straits. But the Calderons? Money is no object for them, specially considering their university is basically an unofficial think-tank for our current right-wing government. It's a shame, there's a great love for motorsports here and plenty of talent both in terms of drivers and mechanics. But there is just no investment: it's all corruption, football and more corruption. The Colombian Motorsports Federation (FCAD) is fucking useless and only cares about screwing amateur championships and taking credit for what Colombian drivers do overseas. At this rate, like you said, our only F1 hope would be Montoya's son...and, like his father, he'll have nothing to thank our country for.
Attention anyone doesn't get this: Bogotá has the accent on the a. So, you put the emphasis on the a. Spanish language is simple. You pronounce it how it looks unless there is an accent. Then you say it how it looks, but with an emphasis and accent
I have to give Tatiana a "tip of the hat" for her performance in the Indy GP today. She finished 16th out of 27 & on the lead lap in constantly changing weather/track surface conditions. She didn't throw it off of the track or take anybody out: Something that too many others can't claim this evening. :)
yep, at the same time her teammates. kirkwood was doing s🅱inallas and kellett crashed as usual. It's ironic how Calderon is ahead of kellett in the point standings even though he already spent two years in Indycar + some years in the feeder series not to mention she missed the Texas race too.
She has what a lot of drivers lack to be fair, a good work ethic. Never giving up and seems to giver her all. She's like a player in the championship who has league 2 talent but premiership drive, and plays for a teams that finishes 15th every year.
Josh has single handily ruined ANY sighting of Seal Galeal I have, can't look at him without hearing that and the uncontrollable laughter coming afterwards.
What is it with mediocre drivers and failing upward? "See that driver who's been in GP3 for three years with only 20 points to her name? She'd be perfect for our F2 seat!"
Depends on the driver. For this case, I'd honestly say its for PR about getting a female driver in. Same reason Danica was allowed to stay in Nascar so long despite crashing most races and actively starting fights with random people she blamed for her mistakes
The answer is sponsor money. We live in a culture that weirdly tells us that gender is a social construct, yet will reward people based on their gender alone. It’s the corporate culture now unfortunately.
she isn't a bad driver. But being "not bad" is not enough to get a test driver spot at an F1 team. It is obvious that they are just using her for good pr, because of her gender. Jamie Chadwick, Beitske Visser are so much better, why not give them a chance instead? Sophia Flörsch, and Vivien Keszthelyi just turned 20 years old, they would have so much more potential than a 27, next month 28 (!) year old Calderon. Ah well, she has colombian money, and we see with Raghunathan and Deledda as well, that money solves everything. I just think that if you want a girl there so bad, for whatever reason, at least choose the best one, the one that girls can look up to, not one who has 20 points in 3 years of F3.
Well... if here in Polombia have so much money... she perhaps she would be in Williams instead of Latify. But nop. Polombia is a third world country... so she doesn't have enough money to push her to F1. In fact, she almost was drop from F2 before Spa, 'cause she hadn't enough money to pay the rest of the season.
@@csanadhorvath I think motorsport is more likely to use women as competitors instead of PR then esports. But we still have to wait some time I guess...
I think the fact she's avoided W Series is quite telling, personally, I think the likes of Jamie Chadwick would consistently outpace her. She's not a bad driver by any measure, but I think SuperFormula and maybe Formula E (although that's getting better each season) will be the sum of her career. Would love a WTF happened to Ma Qing Ha video. He was such a weird driver in FE - managed to get power overuse penalties despite being 4/5 seconds a lap off everyone else.
I remember the Wheldon accident being so unexpected and feeling stupid about my views and expectations on motorsport afterwards. On another note, pretty sure Ive seen Calderon drive in F3 And yeah, just finishing LeMans is a feat in itself, 9th isn't bad at all, especially in the ultra competitive LMP2 class
These are for sure your best work! Love these videos. I think what could be really cool would be to make a video about a benchmark "rise through the ranks" so it were, to give reference to the performance of these lesser known drivers (how they compare to the likes of a Charles Leclerc or George Russel for example)
It just makes me happy whenever a notification from this channel appears. :) Awesome job with the videos I always have a blast and laugh a lot watching. About Tatiana... Maybe it is because I'm also latin american (mexican) but I find her truly beautiful plus I really like her facial expression and the way she conducts herself, on camera, she always look so calm and peaceful. On track, I want to be positive and think that she just has not developed her full potential yet. It would be awesome to cheer for a latin american woman in F1.
She didn't grope people, she didn't film herself driving recklessly way above the speed limit, and she didn't ask a youtuber to take down a video simply because she didn't like it. That means she is way way better than a couple of other guys, including one that will debut in F1 and another that will debut in F2 in 2021.
8:38 Don't worry Josh, I'll help you with that :) Nikita Troitskiy is a Russian driver from the SMP Racing driver academy. Well, he competed in 2018 European F3 season for Carlin with a few podiums, and I think that's all what I know about him.
@@Rainaman- It's a numbers game. Motorsport requires someone to start really young, and have a lot of money. There's also no denying that it's a very male-dominated sport. So until more girls get into karting, you probably won't see any large increases in women in F2.
it's got to be really hard watching a driver (wheldon) getting killed and changing sport because of that, only to see your teammate (hubert) losing his life a few years later
Dan Wheldon crash :/. Thank God open wheel cars avoid these kind of tracks for the most part these days. Except for some reason, Texas stays on the NTT IndyCar schedule.
You know what after you did the Michelle Mouton video I was sitting there thinking how long is it going to take before he addresses this Tatiana Calderon thing well here we are
She is already something special by being a woman who has made it that far into formula racing. It can't be easy being literally the only female driver around
We will never know will we.I honestly believe Tatiana deserves her chance. From what I’ve seen there is a driver of much quality there, it sadly didn’t work out in F2 but she deserves another shot. I’d love to see her in F1. Go Tatiana!
I think being given an F2 seat has been a magnet to attract a lot of criticism, since it sets a high bar. If it wasn't for that we'd probably be praising her as a persistent and occasionally capable rookie with experience across a variety of series. Sadly premature promotion has been a career killer for many a driver.
Colombian-American female F1 fan here. She's a decent driver. People are giving her a lot of shit because: A. That's just the way people are in sports in general. B. Because unfortunately there's still a good chunk of guys that think this is "a man's sport". The fact that she wasn't able to reach the pedals because of her height and was told it was because she was weaker is.... Well bs. Is she a great driver? No. Is she a bad driver? No. She's just a pretty middle-ground driver that's rushing through series in an attempt to find her footing. Honestly they should just leave her in one and let her grow and practice, instead of changing teams and series at break-neck pace. She's no Montoya but I agree with the fact that she doesn't deserve all the shit she's getting.
And now in 2022.... partial IndyCar seat with A.J. Foyt. 12 races, street and road, no ovals. Team-mates are Dalton Kellett, who finished 23rd in the championship in his first full season last year, and Kyle Kirkwood, who won the Indy Lights championship in 2021 in dominating fashion, but hasn't raced in IndyCar yet. Calderon's unlikely to do anything of note compared with Kirkwood, but it will be fascinating to see if she can do better than Kellett.
3:21-3:34 RIP Dan Wheldon, that day was one of the darkest days in AOWR history. That race shouldn't have been celebrated at Las Vegas, that track was too fast for indy cars at the time and with the current ones it'd be even faster. Michigan or Fontana were much better tracks to host the race in my opinion. Otherwise great video Josh!
With the current IndyCar, all high-banked ovals are too dangerous: Even Texas IMO. That's why oval racing is becoming a scarce commodity on the series calendar anymore.
@@andrewcutler4513 yeah. In the end there will be a time where Indianapolis will be the only oval racetrack on the schedule. And I love oval racing, but I have to admit it.
Was the first IndyCar race I ever watched live. I think the second one I ever watched live Justin Wilson was killed, so I just don't watch it any more.
I think the loss of Hubert definitely affected her and the team more than people realise. The switch to endurance seems to be suiting her better and think that's where she will end up excelling more She's not a bad driver but the was definitely a lot of pressure and focus with some tragedy which impacted her career. She still has a role to play at Alfa Romeo but don't think will break through but it will help her career where she is now
Could you do one on either Katherine Legge, or Christina Nielsen? As of now I would say they are the best female drivers in the world alongside Jamie Chadwick.
My theory on female racing drivers - the less attractive ones are faster. None of those three (or the greatest ever, Michèle Mouton) are particularly pretty. They got to where they are through actual talent rather than being a good-looking woman who can get sponsorship money.
@@pitstopf1jan I'm sexist because I think women should be judged on ability and not how good they look in a bikini? Boy, the definition of "sexism" sure has changed in recent times. Also yes, the limited-talent-driver-funded-by-daddy's-cash-so-he-can-live-vicariously-through-his-child is almost exclusively a male phenomenon. That's not sexist to point that out either.
@@drunkenhobo8020 The way you phrased your first comment makes it sound like you think there is a connection between the attractiveness of a female driver and her pace (not attractive = faster, attractive = slower) and I think that is a bullshit way of thinking. Your second response is the way I think too and if that is what you really think, I guess you could agree, that your comment at least was poorly phrased.
I remember her racing in Star Mazda years ago, an I honestly thought that she had some talent. I didn't know that she switched to racing in Europe because of what happened to Wheldon. Personally, I wish she would have stayed on the Road to Indy. She probably doesn't belong in Indycar, but I think she would have had a smoother time developing her skills as a racer.
This video was actually kind to her not comparing her points to her teammates points. She got absolutely destroyed by Russell, Dennis, Aitken and Beckmann and so on. Like hundreds of points behind them.
Hey @Josh Revell. We dont mind the in-vid ads, but if possible could you have a smol bar at the bottom or top of the screen which shows the length of the sponsor segment? Something similar to how Donut Media do things? Like this we can easily skip the ad and resume viewing, while you still get the sponsor $$$. (congrats on becoming big enough for in-vid sponsors btw)
I had Tatiana as my teammate on F1 my team, with our team being the first all female lineup in F1. She routinely beat Williams and Haas despite our car being the worst on the grid. But she wanted too much money to renew the contract and got replaced mid season with Mick Schumacher who got a points finish ahead of me in his first race. I'm currently 6th or 7th in the championship standings Tatiana sadly never got a points finish, the closest being at Monaco where she was nipping at the heels of me in 10th before she got her wing wiped out by a reckless overtake attempt from a Haas I think and the ensuing pit stop sent her down the grid
Whenever I hear her name all I can think about is her being mahaveer’s back row buddy. But in all seriousness she’s an alright driver, definitely not f1 worthy but could do well in enduro, or even Indy maybe
@@ixm2unvrz Changed it anyway cause people getting mad 😂 I was just writing the English equivalent as that’s the one I’ve seen on results screens/social media etc
I'm not entirely familiar with her racing career (this video helped, thank you), but I can't help but wonder if a lot of it is pressure from being the only woman on the grid in most of those situations, and often in cars not designed for anyone below - say, 5'6". It's said in the video that she struggles to fit in cars properly because of her short stature, and that cannot help at all. And I'm not sure how Sauber would work with it, given the height difference between Tatiana and, say, Kubica. It's clear she can compete at a mid-field level at least, but her career seems very disjointed and without any real progression - jumping around between car types and never settling, so never really getting to improve. I would like to see her in the W Series, though, I think that would be a much better measure of her skill.
I think the point this video misses is that while she is not special as a driver she can hang with the competition at the highest levels of motorsport and thereby does a lot of good things for female drivers. She does not deserve to be in Formula 1 but the fact that she is so close hopefully gives more young girls encouragement to try some form of motorsport and shows them that it really is possible to get there, even as a women in a sport dominated by men. I think this video is fair all around though and does a good job of stating facts which always is important when evaluating drivers, especially when there is a perception going around that is not fair.
Is she a good driver?
Compared to me: Yes
Compared to her peers: Nah
Yep.
She's also trying to do too much. Indycar, F3, MRF challenge, world series formula v8, F2, le mans series, super formula, and now she wants to get into WEC as well. She changes series every year, or two years, and even when she doesn't switch series, she switches teams. Just as she gets used to the machinery, its time to learn a new one, almost always in a new culture, in a new country, often in a new continent. She is 27, in March she'll be 28, these are the best years of her racing life, she needs to find some series she really likes and stick with it...
This guy gets it
compared to raghunathan which i prob spelled wrong: yes
@@csanadhorvath Most likely she is and has been overestimating her own potential and skills as a racing driver. Perhaps in her mind, she regards herself as the next Michele Mouton. She is nowhere near to be an oustanding racer, and myself being Colombian, I can tell that she is not highly recognized in our home country at all. Sadly, not even the best Colombian racing driver ever, Juan Pablo Montoya, receives the respect and admiration earned through an exceptional legacy.
AND many people like to shit about ''diversity'' even though it's not like anyone's stopping females from racing, they just don't want to, or can't keep up, because the average woman is biologically less strong than the average male, and one more thing, If Danica Patrick was a male, she wouldn't be heard of in motorsports, ever.
“Beat everyone not worthy of a Wikipedia page” is a line I’m going to have to use now
Yes😂
Josh is comedic genius 🤣
I mean there is Chris Miller, David Ostella, Nick Andries and Juan Pedrahita, but there is also Caio Lara, so...
F1 had Senna vs Prost, F2 had Calderon vs Lord Mahaveer 😎
It was a fierce battle, to be honest. 👊😎
Well both were compelling, but for...vastly different reasons.
atleast both was better than delledda
@Subkash Mahaveer is not in F1 because he would win races that wouldn't even happen yet and he would win races that already happened. If he was in F1, the space time continum would collapse. That is why, he is too powerful for this or even upper plane of existence. Long story short: Mahaveer Ragunathan would be too powerful for Formula 1.
She is not that bad😭😭😂
9th in the 24hr is a really impressive feat imo for that team. If I was any of those drivers, I'd be looking towards WEC as a career.
4:03 "She finished behind Jesus", me searching for Antonio Giovinazzi
That's Italian Jesus
I raced against Rios Jr. at the SKUSA summer nationals lmao. He’s actually pretty fast
@@AceShadowbloodcivic they're all pretty fast. Everything is relative. Josh makes it sound like they're all 20 minutes per lap off of the pace because it's better for the videos, but in reality, all of these drivers are likely faster than he is
LMAO
@Jett jeez. Harsh. RUclips is easy. I have thousands of views on my channel and I'm no one. Racing is way, way harder.
The black screen moment when mentioning Hubert was a nice touch. My brain still does that whenever he's mentioned in this type of context. A sort of 'oh fuck that's still true' moment.
paired with a mid roll ad... 🤮
not actually “wtf happened to calderon”, but “what’s the deal with calderon” 😁
Well there isn't a wtf yet, it's just really questionable
This can be made a series now with What's the Deal with Sean Gelael
well she is still racing
Hey, Colombian here, I wanted to give some insight about our motorsports situation and Tatiana Calderón.
First and foremost, Colombia is a poor country when it comes to motorsports, there´s few options really to get noticed unless you go abroad. Montoya did this correctly and because he pretty much said many times that he wasn't very thankful to the Colombian sports association, he's not very liked here, unless you're a die-hard racing fan. The only sport that is supported here is football and BMX only if your name is Mariana Pajón.
That being said, as much as I'd like to see another Montoya being an absolute beast in CART-Indycar and F1, Calderón is not it. She's really solid and has shown progress, but much like young drivers in NASCAR, she's being rushed just for marketing sake. I fear that she's gonna become the next Danica Patrick and we know how that ended. I see Tatiana Calderón becaming a solid sports car racer, either in IMSA or the LeMans series. Formula 1 or Formula 2 worthy? Not, unless she really has a break trhough season.
Alfa Romeo/Sauber is just making her a marketing tool and there's nothing wrong with it, but she really should focus in other disciplines and excell there, like sports cars where she can stay for a long time and prove her worth. I don't want to see another Danica, much less coming from my country where very few drivers even got a chance or others just fade away, like Carlos Muñoz or Gustavo Yacamán. At this point, Colombia's best next prospect is Sebastián Montoya, but Calderón can be a great pole bearer for our flag in other racing series, if she commits to them instead of marketing her as the next female F1 driver.
Yeah I think sportcars is probably the best place for her. I don't think her year racing LMP2 was too bad
And ciclying
She being supported by Escuderia Telmex program, the ame program that supports Sergio Perez all their way to F1, along with Pietro and Enzo Fittipaldi, we may see her end on LMP/GT or WTCR racing, if not a strong LATAM series like the NASCAR Mexico, Brazilian Stock car or any Argentina series, her effort has been amazing through time
Also Colombian here: let's not fool ourselves, Tatiana is where she is and has the kind of support she has only because of her family name. She's related to our ex-president and her family has a very strong economic and political influence thanks to their relation with the Sergio Arboleda University. She has received an amount of support that no other driver in this country ever has, not even Juan Pablo Montoya himself...and the only guy he could beat in F2 was Mahaveer Ragunathan? Give me a break.
Some say Montoya's dad had to get a mortgage on his house in Prado in order to afford his kid's racing career in Europe and if Juan Pablo failed then that would've put the family in dire straits. But the Calderons? Money is no object for them, specially considering their university is basically an unofficial think-tank for our current right-wing government.
It's a shame, there's a great love for motorsports here and plenty of talent both in terms of drivers and mechanics. But there is just no investment: it's all corruption, football and more corruption. The Colombian Motorsports Federation (FCAD) is fucking useless and only cares about screwing amateur championships and taking credit for what Colombian drivers do overseas. At this rate, like you said, our only F1 hope would be Montoya's son...and, like his father, he'll have nothing to thank our country for.
my Karting coach is a good driver
The most painful thing of this video was Josh saying *BO-GOAT-A*
Dawg what 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, third time, dude cannot talk about Colombia without BO-GOAT-A
Attention anyone doesn't get this:
Bogotá has the accent on the a. So, you put the emphasis on the a. Spanish language is simple. You pronounce it how it looks unless there is an accent. Then you say it how it looks, but with an emphasis and accent
More painful than Josh saying Cálderon?
@@gurrrn1102 a ese me acostumbro. a BO-GOAT-A nunca. Al platanal me lo respetan
I have to give Tatiana a "tip of the hat" for her performance in the Indy GP today. She finished 16th out of 27 & on the lead lap in constantly changing weather/track surface conditions. She didn't throw it off of the track or take anybody out: Something that too many others can't claim this evening. :)
yep, at the same time her teammates. kirkwood was doing s🅱inallas and kellett crashed as usual. It's ironic how Calderon is ahead of kellett in the point standings even though he already spent two years in Indycar + some years in the feeder series not to mention she missed the Texas race too.
People hating on her just angry at their Moms.
Or women in general.@@sports2hedz542
15th at Indy.
16th at Long Beach.
She's not fast but she manages to stay out of trouble.
Tbh Josh is making me aware of more drivers lol
Me too!
I learned Alessio Deledda because of him, only for Josh to get sued about making a video explaining who is Alessio Deledda
@@idontexist1681 when did that happen?
@@notyoubutme6810 Deledda sued Josh for the video
@@notyoubutme6810 he made it, but then deleted it very quick
She has what a lot of drivers lack to be fair, a good work ethic. Never giving up and seems to giver her all. She's like a player in the championship who has league 2 talent but premiership drive, and plays for a teams that finishes 15th every year.
So like mr social credit right know
I’d say her superpower is money, not work ethic. Prove me wrong.
@@JuanCEOs725 She is way better than Carmen Jorda was.
What drivers are you talking about?
@@markuss4133 Bro two years ago. I ain't got a clue lol
Calderon: *exists*
Lord Mahaveer: _finally, a worthy opponent_
Imagine if Lord Rags did an F2 comeback next year. Deledda v Raghunathan would be the next Prost v Senna.
Our one and only racing lord and savior
our battle will be legendary
@@thomasblack33 that’s exactly what we wanted to hear
*Alessio Deledda has joined the chat*
Whenever I see Sean Galeal's face I hear "BRUHHHHHH".
Feeder
forsenE
Josh has single handily ruined ANY sighting of Seal Galeal I have, can't look at him without hearing that and the uncontrollable laughter coming afterwards.
he is garbage but has lots and lots of money
I'll never get sick of that
I got her on MyTeam and she winning races all day every day...
Lol
U must have maxed out car and sim training
Something is very wrong then. Report this bug to codemasters
As a member of the Codemasters team , I'm very sorry to hear that... We'll fix this bug as soon as possible...
Same
RIP Dan Wheldon and Anthoine Hubert😢🙏
Uhh Okey...kinda late
@@mcfireballs3491 10 years late
Better late than never.
Fun fact: the first time a woman in modern racing dies in an accident, auto racing gets shunned culturally and will attempt to be canceled.
I don’t think u actually watch Motorsport
Wait Will Buxton?! TELL ME MORE!
Yes . Good idea is : WTF happened to Will Buxton lolol
Check his pizza video.
Search Buxton's Racing Debut. Several short episodes from when he attended the Ferrari Driver's Academy event.
ruclips.net/video/d1iHiT5xDuw/видео.html
How many people paused after Will Buxton and came here to the comments? 😆
Yes, we need a Will Buxton video!
What is it with mediocre drivers and failing upward? "See that driver who's been in GP3 for three years with only 20 points to her name? She'd be perfect for our F2 seat!"
Depends on the driver. For this case, I'd honestly say its for PR about getting a female driver in. Same reason Danica was allowed to stay in Nascar so long despite crashing most races and actively starting fights with random people she blamed for her mistakes
The answer is sponsor money. We live in a culture that weirdly tells us that gender is a social construct, yet will reward people based on their gender alone. It’s the corporate culture now unfortunately.
*cross my palm with silver...*
She legit got less points than Lord Mahaveer, I think that sums up if she's any good or not...
Well but her her junior career is more impressive
she isn't a bad driver. But being "not bad" is not enough to get a test driver spot at an F1 team. It is obvious that they are just using her for good pr, because of her gender. Jamie Chadwick, Beitske Visser are so much better, why not give them a chance instead? Sophia Flörsch, and Vivien Keszthelyi just turned 20 years old, they would have so much more potential than a 27, next month 28 (!) year old Calderon. Ah well, she has colombian money, and we see with Raghunathan and Deledda as well, that money solves everything. I just think that if you want a girl there so bad, for whatever reason, at least choose the best one, the one that girls can look up to, not one who has 20 points in 3 years of F3.
Well... if here in Polombia have so much money... she perhaps she would be in Williams instead of Latify. But nop. Polombia is a third world country... so she doesn't have enough money to push her to F1. In fact, she almost was drop from F2 before Spa, 'cause she hadn't enough money to pay the rest of the season.
@@csanadhorvath yeah I totally agree
@@csanadhorvath I think motorsport is more likely to use women as competitors instead of PR then esports. But we still have to wait some time I guess...
Appreciate the fair takes, these videos are great. Still rough to relive the Weldon race though
Last time was this early alessio deledda hadn't even started racing yet
Andrea Moda were still trying to get to Magny Cours?
That's okay. I've seen Deledda's results. He still hasn't started racing.
I think the fact she's avoided W Series is quite telling, personally, I think the likes of Jamie Chadwick would consistently outpace her. She's not a bad driver by any measure, but I think SuperFormula and maybe Formula E (although that's getting better each season) will be the sum of her career.
Would love a WTF happened to Ma Qing Ha video. He was such a weird driver in FE - managed to get power overuse penalties despite being 4/5 seconds a lap off everyone else.
I'm surprised she even got an F2 seat (money of course). She definetely has no future in F1.
I don't think it is monies.. it is PC.. this horrible "ooow aaaw woman are just as good as men"
@@Coen80 well, that only works if they are any good so..
And maybe because she is a woman which is great for marketing in the 2010s and 20s. Like the teams could always say : we make the sport more diverse!
If *Mahaveer Raghunathan* could get a seat, I see no reason why it seems surprising for Calderon to get one.
@@tetragon2137 dont u ever disrespect the Lord
I remember the Wheldon accident being so unexpected and feeling stupid about my views and expectations on motorsport afterwards.
On another note, pretty sure Ive seen Calderon drive in F3
And yeah, just finishing LeMans is a feat in itself, 9th isn't bad at all, especially in the ultra competitive LMP2 class
All college students with debt: "I don't have enough superliscence points just yet"
Rest in Peace Dan Wheldon. I'll never forget that moment his car left the ground and flew into the catch fence. Still breaks my heart.
Edit: The driver who died in that indy race. RIP. Sorry for previous comment.
I still get chills seeing that clip of his wreck
Tatiana Calderon is the only person I know just because of how much she retires
Andrea de Cesaris has entered the room...
@@grunchlk if Andrea de Cesaris would enter my room right now, I would shit my pants 😂
Pastor Maldonado has entered the chat
@Hot Rod that's because it usually was Prosts fault :p
Man 😂 when you said Bogotá as “bergowter” had me in stitches
The Sean Gelael intro always gets me lol
The slo-mo "BRUU~UH!" gets me more... XD
Also worth noting that she'll be full time in the WEC as well this year with the same team/car. I really hope they can do well there
4:08 Good transition, have to give so much respect for commiting to that
These are for sure your best work! Love these videos.
I think what could be really cool would be to make a video about a benchmark "rise through the ranks" so it were, to give reference to the performance of these lesser known drivers (how they compare to the likes of a Charles Leclerc or George Russel for example)
"Jagonya Ayam" roughly translated means Chicken's Champion, kind of a fitting title for Sean
Hearing correa anthione and weldon does bring back some emotions
It just makes me happy whenever a notification from this channel appears. :) Awesome job with the videos I always have a blast and laugh a lot watching. About Tatiana... Maybe it is because I'm also latin american (mexican) but I find her truly beautiful plus I really like her facial expression and the way she conducts herself, on camera, she always look so calm and peaceful. On track, I want to be positive and think that she just has not developed her full potential yet. It would be awesome to cheer for a latin american woman in F1.
There is literally 0% chance of her ever getting to an F1 race seat
Anyone faster than the Lord himself are good in my books 🙃
That's great until you realise Lord Raghunathan outscored her
But noone is faster than Lord Mahaveer. 😭
Honestly, she has talent. She just really needs to work on her pace and consistency, which IndyCar is showing has potential to improve.
Exactly. I think she’s underrated.
When you’re so early that Mahaveer hasn’t been mentioned yet
He doesn’t need mentioning. The fact he’s the indisputable GOAT doesn’t even need stating, we’re born knowing it
Mahaveer
She didn't grope people, she didn't film herself driving recklessly way above the speed limit, and she didn't ask a youtuber to take down a video simply because she didn't like it.
That means she is way way better than a couple of other guys, including one that will debut in F1 and another that will debut in F2 in 2021.
That doesn't qualify her as a good driver. She's not. Not in open wheel racing at least
Mazepin?
Yea who is the other one that is debuting in f2?
@@vivomontana1026 Alessio Deledda I think
@@ΕΥΣΤΡΑΤΙΟΣΤΣΟΡΛΙΑΝΟΣ? Watch the video, she's decent in a pack of higher prospects, she's not bad, that would go to our Lord, she's just decent.
8:38 Don't worry Josh, I'll help you with that :) Nikita Troitskiy is a Russian driver from the SMP Racing driver academy. Well, he competed in 2018 European F3 season for Carlin with a few podiums, and I think that's all what I know about him.
Your content has always been good, but recently it's definitely been taken up a level, keep it up bro!
Let’s be honest here nobody would think anything of her if she wasn’t the only women in F2 recently
Absolutely right.
I mean, given racing should be gender neutral compared to other sports, I am surprised she doesn't have any other female competion for the spot
@@Rainaman- Maya Weug was signed for Ferrari Driver academy so maybe there is hope
@@Rainaman- It's a numbers game. Motorsport requires someone to start really young, and have a lot of money. There's also no denying that it's a very male-dominated sport. So until more girls get into karting, you probably won't see any large increases in women in F2.
@@Rainaman- Jamie Chadwick?
Josh, that segue into the ad was so smooth, Carlos Sainz should sing about it.
It is so good to see antoine hubert. Rest in peace antoine hubert and dan wheldon😭😭😭😭😭
it's got to be really hard watching a driver (wheldon) getting killed and changing sport because of that, only to see your teammate (hubert) losing his life a few years later
Kinda messed up that there is an ad just on dan's death. Suppose it was automatic, but still
There's no adds in this video
@@stpbasss3773 bruh this was six months ago
Being a Dutchy and hearing him say Beitske Visser and then apologising made my day
Dan Wheldon crash :/.
Thank God open wheel cars avoid these kind of tracks for the most part these days. Except for some reason, Texas stays on the NTT IndyCar schedule.
"á": *exist*
Josh: That thing can't stop, because I don't know Spanish
You spelt spenish wrong
that was really smooth ad transition josh, NGL
You know what after you did the Michelle Mouton video I was sitting there thinking how long is it going to take before he addresses this Tatiana Calderon thing well here we are
She is already something special by being a woman who has made it that far into formula racing. It can't be easy being literally the only female driver around
If she wasn't female nobody would even mention her. You have to deserve your place
I agree.
From a female that shows how frustrating it is
That’s how the world is now unfortunately. You get recognized for not on your talents but color and sex. We are indeed going backwards
We will never know will we.I honestly believe Tatiana deserves her chance. From what I’ve seen there is a driver of much quality there, it sadly didn’t work out in F2 but she deserves another shot. I’d love to see her in F1. Go Tatiana!
she literally older than carlos sainz, why is she even trying anymore
I just love how you break down drivers careers and stats and the little jokes! Keep it up man
I think being given an F2 seat has been a magnet to attract a lot of criticism, since it sets a high bar. If it wasn't for that we'd probably be praising her as a persistent and occasionally capable rookie with experience across a variety of series. Sadly premature promotion has been a career killer for many a driver.
I hope everyone has a nice day
You too my man
Thanks
Don't tell me what to do!
U too!
Appreciate it bud. Hope you have a good day too.
Colombian-American female F1 fan here. She's a decent driver. People are giving her a lot of shit because:
A. That's just the way people are in sports in general.
B. Because unfortunately there's still a good chunk of guys that think this is "a man's sport". The fact that she wasn't able to reach the pedals because of her height and was told it was because she was weaker is.... Well bs.
Is she a great driver? No. Is she a bad driver? No. She's just a pretty middle-ground driver that's rushing through series in an attempt to find her footing. Honestly they should just leave her in one and let her grow and practice, instead of changing teams and series at break-neck pace. She's no Montoya but I agree with the fact that she doesn't deserve all the shit she's getting.
If women were able to compete teams would literally throw everything they had behind one. They can't cut it. Plain and simple.
that sponsor transition was pretty smooth wow
here after she absolutely ploughed grosjean in a charity irace 💀
The transition was so good that i took 20 seconds to realize that i am in the middle of an ad
And now in 2022.... partial IndyCar seat with A.J. Foyt. 12 races, street and road, no ovals. Team-mates are Dalton Kellett, who finished 23rd in the championship in his first full season last year, and Kyle Kirkwood, who won the Indy Lights championship in 2021 in dominating fashion, but hasn't raced in IndyCar yet. Calderon's unlikely to do anything of note compared with Kirkwood, but it will be fascinating to see if she can do better than Kellett.
What´s the deal? Well, she thought she was better than she actually is.....
I'm loving seeing josh bring these names to a wider audience, they deserve the publicity for mostly the wrong reasons.
Tatiana: I want to compete in GP3
GP3: DAMS GIRL, CHILL OUT
Always happy to see a new video of yours, keep it up mate :)
3:21-3:34
RIP Dan Wheldon, that day was one of the darkest days in AOWR history.
That race shouldn't have been celebrated at Las Vegas, that track was too fast for indy cars at the time and with the current ones it'd be even faster. Michigan or Fontana were much better tracks to host the race in my opinion.
Otherwise great video Josh!
With the current IndyCar, all high-banked ovals are too dangerous: Even Texas IMO. That's why oval racing is becoming a scarce commodity on the series calendar anymore.
@@andrewcutler4513 yeah. In the end there will be a time where Indianapolis will be the only oval racetrack on the schedule. And I love oval racing, but I have to admit it.
Was the first IndyCar race I ever watched live. I think the second one I ever watched live Justin Wilson was killed, so I just don't watch it any more.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I feel really bad for you.
@@carfan3649 It will be interesting to see if Gateway can keep the fans coming back year after year.
6:28 Sean Gelael. *BRUH!*
Always gets me! 🤣
I think the loss of Hubert definitely affected her and the team more than people realise.
The switch to endurance seems to be suiting her better and think that's where she will end up excelling more
She's not a bad driver but the was definitely a lot of pressure and focus with some tragedy which impacted her career.
She still has a role to play at Alfa Romeo but don't think will break through but it will help her career where she is now
No matter what she does in terms of her career, her smile and beauty always melt me. :)
7 viewers and all of them commented in the same time that’s loyalty my friend
She ran half a season in IndyCar last year and didn't do very well either. But of course she was driving for Foyt.
6:58 this driver was more dangerous than Maldonado/ de Cesaris combined judging from the photo
okay my man this was a smoooooth transition to the sponsor, I didn't even realize it, so smoooth, good job!
Best F1 channel on RUclips!
The S1apsh0es of F1
I was shaking in anticipation on the moment Lord Rags theme tune was played.
You didn't disappoint :D
Could you do one on either Katherine Legge, or Christina Nielsen? As of now I would say they are the best female drivers in the world alongside Jamie Chadwick.
My theory on female racing drivers - the less attractive ones are faster. None of those three (or the greatest ever, Michèle Mouton) are particularly pretty. They got to where they are through actual talent rather than being a good-looking woman who can get sponsorship money.
@@drunkenhobo8020 do you do this with type of analysis with male drivers as well or are you just sexist?
@@pitstopf1jan How the hell is that sexist?
@@pitstopf1jan I'm sexist because I think women should be judged on ability and not how good they look in a bikini?
Boy, the definition of "sexism" sure has changed in recent times.
Also yes, the limited-talent-driver-funded-by-daddy's-cash-so-he-can-live-vicariously-through-his-child is almost exclusively a male phenomenon. That's not sexist to point that out either.
@@drunkenhobo8020 The way you phrased your first comment makes it sound like you think there is a connection between the attractiveness of a female driver and her pace (not attractive = faster, attractive = slower) and I think that is a bullshit way of thinking.
Your second response is the way I think too and if that is what you really think, I guess you could agree, that your comment at least was poorly phrased.
I remember her racing in Star Mazda years ago, an I honestly thought that she had some talent. I didn't know that she switched to racing in Europe because of what happened to Wheldon. Personally, I wish she would have stayed on the Road to Indy. She probably doesn't belong in Indycar, but I think she would have had a smoother time developing her skills as a racer.
Those three dislikes is from Tatiana and her fan pages 😂
25 now, she sent the video to her friends
@@LG-hf8ni or her friends sent it to their friends.
Damn, now I’m obligated to dislike to remain a true fan-
I'm sure Tatiana has enough simps to get the dislikes into the hundreds.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. How to explain people defending women?
Simps of course!
This video was actually kind to her not comparing her points to her teammates points.
She got absolutely destroyed by Russell, Dennis, Aitken and Beckmann and so on. Like hundreds of points behind them.
That "bruuuuuh" always catch me by surprise. Every time
in my F1 2020 carreer, she's currently fighting for the title, whilst costing my team half than what Mazepin would cost
Haha she's my team mate on there too.
Calderon is the Mahaveer that actually made it to F1
Hey @Josh Revell. We dont mind the in-vid ads, but if possible could you have a smol bar at the bottom or top of the screen which shows the length of the sponsor segment? Something similar to how Donut Media do things? Like this we can easily skip the ad and resume viewing, while you still get the sponsor $$$.
(congrats on becoming big enough for in-vid sponsors btw)
I really hope drivers like this don’t get into F1. Everything is about money nowadays
It’s actually less about money, you just weren’t able to see this side of it in the past
F1 has literally always been about money.
@@TimAyro word
@@TimAyro not like how it is now. Everything is moneybased, you can get into F1 with barely any skill, but with a lot of money
No matter you’re race/gender money will ALWAYS get you into motorsport...It’s just how that world works
I learn about alot of different series of racing (school is always in session) great vid my g
I had Tatiana as my teammate on F1 my team, with our team being the first all female lineup in F1. She routinely beat Williams and Haas despite our car being the worst on the grid. But she wanted too much money to renew the contract and got replaced mid season with Mick Schumacher who got a points finish ahead of me in his first race. I'm currently 6th or 7th in the championship standings
Tatiana sadly never got a points finish, the closest being at Monaco where she was nipping at the heels of me in 10th before she got her wing wiped out by a reckless overtake attempt from a Haas I think and the ensuing pit stop sent her down the grid
She demanded more money? 😂
@@yellow_x522 Money demands go up as a driver's acclaim increases. I faced this issue as well with Raghunathan of all people.
Whenever I hear her name all I can think about is her being mahaveer’s back row buddy.
But in all seriousness she’s an alright driver, definitely not f1 worthy but could do well in enduro, or even Indy maybe
I’m more of a Sophia Flörsch fan myself 😁
Her and chadwick actually have talent not tatiana
So much so that you can't spell her name?
EDIT: The OP corrected the spelling, so a) good on him and b) don't hate me for it.
@@rjfaber1991 the "oe" in "Floersch" can be written as "ö" as well. It's called an umlaut sound.
@@ixm2unvrz Changed it anyway cause people getting mad 😂 I was just writing the English equivalent as that’s the one I’ve seen on results screens/social media etc
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Do a video about Felix da Costa, I am Portuguese and I like your channel a lot. Keep up with the amazing work you have been doing! 👌
Smooth transition into ad my dude
will they have to tell the rest of the F1 field to slow down for the sake of equality, or should i say equity?
Short answer: no
Long answer: N O
Dubai track is an AMAZING TRACK, F1 should have A race there to try it
To be fair, she's more "deserving" of being around F1 than Susie Wolff ever was
Maybe Calderon should have watched a Skillshare video on driving a F1 racecar
I'm not entirely familiar with her racing career (this video helped, thank you), but I can't help but wonder if a lot of it is pressure from being the only woman on the grid in most of those situations, and often in cars not designed for anyone below - say, 5'6". It's said in the video that she struggles to fit in cars properly because of her short stature, and that cannot help at all. And I'm not sure how Sauber would work with it, given the height difference between Tatiana and, say, Kubica. It's clear she can compete at a mid-field level at least, but her career seems very disjointed and without any real progression - jumping around between car types and never settling, so never really getting to improve.
I would like to see her in the W Series, though, I think that would be a much better measure of her skill.
I think the point this video misses is that while she is not special as a driver she can hang with the competition at the highest levels of motorsport and thereby does a lot of good things for female drivers. She does not deserve to be in Formula 1 but the fact that she is so close hopefully gives more young girls encouragement to try some form of motorsport and shows them that it really is possible to get there, even as a women in a sport dominated by men.
I think this video is fair all around though and does a good job of stating facts which always is important when evaluating drivers, especially when there is a perception going around that is not fair.
Aaaaaand she's back in F2 lol
WTF i go to autobahn! That is my local go kart track.