+Andre Gous thanks for watching and commenting ...I think I’ll keep mine forever can’t think of a better all around everyday bike. Put another 2500 miles on it since last review pretty sure I’ll do a 50k review in the distant future
Nice review! Agree with most of your thoughts. I have had a blue 2012 VFR1200F that I picked up 2013. It is a great, Nice looking bike and very versatile. Wouldn't know what to replace it with...
I have a 2010 DTC and it's an incredible bike. I got it after putting over 100k miles on my VFR 750 (which I still have). The power difference is pretty awesome. No other motorcycle like these on the road. Perfect for me!
I agree with you 100%. It’s also a lot more powerful than a FJR or the Concours but not as roomy and smaller panniers. I would take off my panniers and ride with liter bikes and Hayabusa’s all day with no problems what so ever never felt like it was outclassed. Then put the panniers back on pick up four full grocery bags full of food etc.. Then take a 100 mile trip to my families house etc. perfectly size and 170hp do anything bike. I think the the closest thing now would be the H2-SX but I bet the Vfr1200f engine has more torque in the low to midrange which makes it so enjoyable. Thanks for your input😀👍
Thanks for the excellent review. 8K servicing is outstanding! - I may have said it before, the British Royal protection guys and girls use VFR1200F's, they need to slice through London Traffic at warp speed, after the Metropolitan Police tested numerous brands, they picked the Honda VFR1299F's for their performance, handling and reliability.
@@paulkmaster3231 I rode the 1200RT BMW for work before they went over to the VFR, Honda is the better bike by far. Although the BMW brakes are awesome.
I think Honda gave the Met Police a bloody good deal to generate sales. I have had two of these, one regular gear change and one DCT. Honda shafted early buyers by initially charging £1300 for three cases … then mid 2010 gave them away free ! Don’t ask me how I know 😢.
I know what you mean…it’s a fascinating bike..it’s been a couple years now since I traded in my VFR1200f…I still miss it..I remember how it felt in my hands it’s so weird I can’t even remember what my current bikes feel like in my hands. I currently own a ZX14r a VMAX 1700 and a Streetglide. In a way the VFR1200f is like a mixture of those three bikes..Hyper bike horsepower like the ZX14r..powerful torquey V4 engine and shaft-drive like the VMAX and saddlebags and long distance comfort like the Streetglide. I bought those three bikes after I traded in my VFR1200f really the VFR1200f does it all. But no it’s not quite as fast as the ZX14r it is however faster than the VMAX 1700 and almost as quick only a .1 sec off to 60 and the quarter mile that’s virtually identical. Also it’s not as comfy as the Streetglide but it’s panniers are bigger and more practical for real world items..hope you can experience owning one it’s quite a treat..make sure to get one with the matching factory panniers..they are incredible..or take the off and run with the big boys…thanks for watching and commenting 😀👍
was thinking about selling my 2013 zx6r as I want something abit more torquey but able to tour nicely and this is a very good review buddy and has tipped me even more towards it. thank you and ride safe brother
+The CuTThroat Biker zx6r is a great bike be sure the Vfr1200f is going to fit your needs..yes it's torquey and comfy but it is heavier and quite a bit different to ride i highly recommend a good test long test ride to be sure. Thanks for watching and commenting ✌️
Being a VFR 800 owner and admirer of the species, I’m still miffed Mr. Honda couldn’t tweak out the functional and aesthetic quirks of the 1200 before it was pulled from production. Undoubtedly, they’re excellent bikes to buy now that barely used and languishing floor models sell for a song, but why they never really sold in the first place isn’t that much of a head-scratcher. I do hope Honda learns from their hubris and doesn’t give up on the V-4 sport-tour category.
Im a jockey rider. Also have a gen2 busa. But i have always been a honda kind of dude since 7😂. This vfr bird is so much better build than the busa and so much friendlier position. Feels much lighter yet actually is heavier . And u dont see em everywhere... An awesome bike and is shame honda stop producing em. I will sure get myself a used one soon. I love them metal horse v4 looks. Amazing review man thanks for ur time sharing this
Sorry so late in replying you described it very accurately. It’s not as powerful as a 2gen busa but first gen Busa is pretty close very similar power. Feels lighter and more comfortable than both. I like they way Busa’s look my favorite. Love to one day get all white with solo fin busa.
+George Chan thanks a lot man I appreciate you watching some of my other videos. Please subscribe and check out my Buell Firebolt XB9r reviews and rides my other "vs" videos as well. ✌️😎👍
I know I am late to the video but thank you. Looking for another bike while I am still young enough to ride them. Hardly any reviews on this bike. This is the most positive I have seen. I think I will get one.
It’s a tough bike to beat. A great mix of power and comfort along with Honda reliability 😀👍. Hope you enjoy it very much. If you have any questions at all please email me at paulk.asemaster@gmail.com I’ll be more than happy to help
I'm 53 and I really like mine. Yes there are flaws with the bike ......range and comfort. I replaced the factory bars with risers, added a deflector on the windshield (looks terrible but functions great) and a better seat. My wife and I do long trips on the bikes so, it needs to be comfortable. The sacrifice on range and comfort is well worth it! Our longest day was from Lake Placid, NY to Wasaga Beach, ON, Canada on secondary roads when possible (about 12hrs with food, gas...). Enjoy.
Lovely to see a video review from a long term owner. I think one will be my next bike, but with an ECU flash to open her up a bit. It's a monster anyway, but an extra 20 or so horsepower and no restrictions in gears wouldn't go amiss.
Great review. You are a great speaker! Some of the 'professional' guys should take note. I want a VFR (badly) but dont know if I can give up my CBF1000fa.
Um ..I don’t know um...um ok?! People complain is say um a lot lol. It was an honest review on a great bike. Don’t know much about the CBF1000 but looks really good. Whatever you decide It looks like you can’t lose. 👍 Thanks for watching and commenting
Excellent review. As much as I love my Street Triple R, it’s not a bike for longer travels. I’ve been looking seriously at this bike as a second bike and I’m pretty convinced now. I think the extra weight must keep it really planted at higher speeds and 170hp!!! All good. Thank you!!
I swapped my ST1100 for a VFR1200F and have it for one week now. Very impressed by this bike. Also it surprised me that after 2.5 hr drive my but did not hurt. I always paused after 2 hours on my Pan European. Fuel consumption is higher though but so far absolutely no regrets. What a beast and the handling is so easy. However when parking my bike in the garage the steering circle is wider than the Pan, actually surprsed by this ... During touring, driving slower, gives more pressure on the wrists but still not too bad. Wish you many more happy kilometers, I know I will enjoy it for the years to come 👍🏻
Excellent comment thank you. I think I owe it to you to tell you I traded in my VFR1200F for a new 2018 Harley Streetglide. It was a knee jerk reaction because my close friend died on his sportbike and I had it in my head he must have been riding aggressively as a result. I found out months later he wasn’t speeding and that it could have happened to anyone. A very elderly driver made a U turn on the opposite lane right in front of him!!! I really enjoy my Streetglide but I miss my VFR1200F more than any other bike Ive owned so far. Sorry for the long explanation. Yes the turning circle is wide for the VFR I’m thinking even my Streetglide makes tighter turns!!! All in all very few flaws with the VFR1200F. I never went more than a 100 miles without stopping on that bike. About one hour is the longest I’d ever go. Wouldn’t be surprised you could go a couple hours on it with no fatigue. But it never did any long trips on that bike. I bought it because I was commuting about 20-30 miles each way to work mostly highway during rush hour. I needed to be able to carry items on bike at higher speeds than my cruiser. I also really loved how good the bike looked with or without the hard cases. I would ride about 50% of the time without cases. I would ride with the most powerful sportbikes in traffic and easily kept up or surpassed them. Only a couple bikes made can do that. Bmw K1300 but Honda is just as fast and handles better and smoother engine. The new H2 SX but it doesn’t have the low down engine torque and it is very pricey plus potential reliability problems with the supercharger. There still isn’t a better sport tourer than that bike IMO if you want to ride hard...Very impressive. Thanks for watching.
@@paulkmaster3231 Thanks for your response. I wish you many more safe kilometers and the important thing is that we are riding a motorbike, sharing a common interest independent of the brand :). Ride safe and I'm really enjoying my VFR and hope I can do it for many years to come!
@@paulkmaster3231 Hey man I have ridden the H2 SX a couple of times and I think the low down torque is pretty good, plus it spins up so fast that you are up in the rev range most of the time anyways :) Now that the H2 SX has been out for 5 years I have seen several of them above 55 000 miles and I have not heard much bad about reliability concerning the supercharger. A couple more years you should be able to buy H2SX bikes for cheap, there are already bikes going for below 14 000 dollars. The VFR1200F is still a solid option though but I like tech like cruisecontrol on my sporttouring bikes :)
@@mathias6423 thanks for watching and commenting. Well it’s been awhile now since I owned the Vfr1200f but I do have very fond memories of it. It’s kinda a long story why I got rid of it. I traded it in for a Harley Streetglide but latter I missed the Vfr1200f and so I also bought a 2020 Kawasaki ZX14r. To take its place. I felt right at home on the ZX14r it was no big difference in power or torque vs the Vfr1200f which is a testament to the Vfr1200f. Now I’ve never ridden the H2 SX to be honest but I’ve seen roll on power tests with the H2 SX vs the ZX14r and the ZX14r just simply walks right past the H2 SX. It’s this torque that I crave so much and why I’m not likely to get rid of ZX14r any time soon if ever. I would love to see the Vfr1200f go head to head against the H2 SX. I’m pretty sure the Vfr1200f would take it on a top gear roll on till eventually the H2 SX would overtake. I think 0-60 times on the VFR are quicker 2.7 sec vs 2.98 for the H2 SX 1/4 times are extremely close as well 10.07 for the H2 SX vs 10.17 for the VFR1200f. The VFR has shaft drive which is just one more reason that makes it easy to maintain. The cruise control is a huge advantage and I agree could be a deal breaker when deciding between the H2 SX vs anything else. Again thank you for commenting
I looked at a 14 model, having owned a heavily modded Blackbird for 11yrs. Loved it but I have decided to go for a 19 H2 SX SE, that's what I want. Figure try out all the goodies
great review i totally agree i cannot believe the way the vfr covers the ground it makes 90mph feel like 60mph and the torque makes it so easy in top gear roll-ons.......the camshaft bears on shim buckets on the inlet valves and a rocker roller arrangement on the exhaust valves.
kjrutter17 thanks for correcting me on that I also realized after I already posted that the adjustment is not on top of the camshaft but right over the valve. Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it and I also appreciate your pictures and have a great time in Europe when you get there try to shoot some videos and some pictures and send them to me I'll post your back up again
kjrutter17 I checked the video thanks for clarifying. At least the exhaust valves are easy to adjust those are ones that get the most wear and most likely to need adjustments because of the exhaust heat and carbon build up. Great info thanks 👍
As always I enjoy watching your vids and this review of your Vfr 1200f. the bike looks almost brand new, you must really look after it. I'm sure that other folk would agree with me when I say that your presentation is very professional. Ever thought of doing some Public Speaking? You speak precisely, slowly and with no mistakes. Far better than some others I have come across on youtube. take care brother.
Jagged Lines Thanks for the kind words my brother in Christ. I drive people crazy with my many words and opinions from politics to religion to you guessed it motorcycles. What better place than RUclips to do my talking lol. I always look forward to your comments thank you and God bless you
+ken clarkson Thanks again for watching and commenting Ken. I know I know and the DAM exhaust too!!! Just can't do it for now I've got three other bikes to tend too and my Vfr is my daily so it's the last bike to get that kind of attention!!!✌️
Stizzy Grayson thanks I appreciate that. And yes they are very underappreciated bikes. What is definitely appreciated by me. And the bike was a sales flop here in the states. And it's not an all out hyper bike. But it is hugely capable one that you can ride with your buddies on sport bikes or take a trip somewhere without fear. It would be very difficult to replace this bike with one bike I tell you I thought about it but there's absolutely no reason for me to do so until somebody makes a bike even more capable of what this can do! ✌️
The vfr 1200 being underappreciated is reflected to the bike's prices in Istanbul/Turkey, for instance, say a 2011 Busa is around 12K us.dollars, the price of an equivalent vfr 1200 is around 9 K us.dollars and the vfr has the better brakes. And one question Master Paulk, does not the vfr 1200f have vtec system? Looking forward for your new videos
Stizzy Grayson thanks for commenting again I appreciate that. Yes I believe Honda increased fuel tank .5 gallon which is just about perfect at 5.4 gallons in later models. I myself knew nothing about these bikes somebody had to tell me about them when I was looking at Zx14r's and Hayabusa's. I'm glad I did I saved a lot of money and possibly traffic tickets. These bikes with hard cases get no unwanted attention from law enforcement like a Hayabusa does and sacrifices very little in area of performance at the same time. Thanks again my friend
atillaadn actually no the Vfr1200f does not have vtec like the vfr800. It's valvetrain design was taken from the motocross Crf450! A simpler compact but effective design that really saves space and weight ...the vfr1200f engine is smaller and less weight than the vfr800 vtec engine!!! But the heavier frame and driveshaft system kinda offsets the engine weight advantage on the bigger Vfr. How are you enjoying your big Vfr?
Paulk Master I'm looking at the Honda VFR1200X CROSSTOUR. you answered my question., does this 1200 have vtech. Not having the Vtech could possibly be what pushes me across the finish line to pull the trigger. I like the fact it has screw adjusters for valves instead of shims. but to adjust you have to take the fuel tank, air breather and complete throttle body unit off. I've been riding a Moto Guzzi for 13yrs and it takes about 30 minutes to do a valve adj. But I do love the idea of owning the CROSSTOUR-X.
The 1200 never gonna sound as good as your 800 btw. But it is fast ..much faster and more powerful. The Vfr800 has an incredible exhaust note one of the best in the motorcycle world the Vfr1200f just doesn’t 🙁 So please keep that in mind..Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
VicJackpotRider I know you will but just like my VROD it'll never take the place of your Vegas Jackpot!!!! The Vfr is like just..a...ah like my grocery getter visit my mom 100 miles away commute in the rain don't worry if it gets dirty kinda bike in a hurry lol ✌️😎👍
Maybe this will help a Vfr1200f can keep up with Hayabusa’s I know because I rode all the time with them. A VFR800 is slower than all 600 super sports. The 1200 is only 40lb heavier but has 70hp more. No chain! The only thing the 800 is better is sound it’s way better sound
I have Africa Twin 2016. Really cool bike I love it. I live it Thaland so a travel a lot with a Atwin. Now I come to Europe and think to buy Vfr 1200 for travel around all Europe +Russia. I think is good choice for speed and touring!
+Oleg Volobujev Africa Twin awesome bike wish I could find a use for it here in south Florida all dirt riding is banned. Vfr1200f and K1300 great for touring Europe in my opinion though I haven't been there a lot of people from the U.K. Seem to think so ✌️
Am have Honda vfr1200 in Miami.its so GOOD!Cbr 1000rr,Honda shado750 _its 3 my fever motors!change every day! Kozlov Miami tennis Academy.Thanks. African good to!
Been riding hondas for years, cb 750, cb 919, cb1000r and got me an fjr now (as I ride w my wife most of the time) so for 2 fjr is perfect. Looking at this vfr1200 but seems I'll have to sacrifice the luggage space and also cough up some more money too. Maybe as a single rider I would . So gonna stick w fjr, it's honestly a great bike. But thanks for the review ! 👍👍
Love mine, agree with pretty much everything you say👍only issue with mine is the gearbox is a bit dodgy. 1st-3rd is perfect and slick. Into 4th is slightly clunky and I've had a couple of false neutrals. The worst is 5th-6th. I've had false neutrals quite often so I double clutch it in to make sure I dont do any damage. It either jumps out of 6th to a false neutral with a big grind or goes from 5th to the false neutral. Very annoying but I really love riding the bike
I don’t disagree ...I had a problem accidentally hitting neutral on 1-2 shifts particularly when I’m trying to hold a wheelie into 2nd gear. Every now and then I would get a false neutral or grind on 5-6 shift again only while riding very aggressive. Thanks for commenting and watching
@@paulkmaster3231 Seems like yours isn't as bad as mine. I just ride around it anyway, it's not too much of a problem. 1 person said that they just lost 6th gear, everything else worked fine. Luckily I bought the bike outright fairly cheap anyway.
The left case can fit a helmet if you tilt it so the top of the helmet is towards the wheel, helmet lock is possible via included Wire under the seat, works with D-ring helmets (like yours) 😁
@@paulkmaster3231 thank you for a great video, me and my gf went to Scotland from Sweden on our vfr1200f a couple of weeks ago, drove 3000km on total. Great bike - lots of power.
Wow that’s awesome👍 Never went that far on any motorcycle yet. Always impressed with people like yourself. God Bless you and thanks for sharing. I hope someday maybe me and my wife can do the same.
A 1200 doesn’t have the wonderful exhaust note of the 750’s or 800 but it does have incredible power and torque. I no longer have my VFR1200f I really miss it. I do now have a 2020 Yamaha Vmax 1700. I can’t tell the difference which one accelerates harder the VFR or the Vmax it is that powerful. The Vfr1200f certainly will beat it at top speed. Thanks for watching and commenting
I have a 2010 F model, the power is insane, smooth and linear........pulls like a rain. I agree with you that she needs to be nudged into corners but once the weight is in the right place she can hold a tight line for a big bike , certainly no CBR400RR.... But I digress, I have owned many bikes in my life from an 1100 Yamaha special (chopped and dropped) to 500 Laverda Montjuic.The VFR1200F is by far the most torque laden motor I have experienced. The bike is heavy, but once rolling the weight disappear. Nice review. Check out riding through London, fighting bears style.
+Richard Cairns Excellent comment..owners of this bike truly love this bike and always tend to appreciate it more and more. Back in the day when I was a kid I dreamed of owning the 1100 midnight special the Laverda very rare only seen one in a bike show very cool. I will check out "riding through London fighting bears style" please continue watching my channel and commenting and subscribe if you haven't already if so I apologize ✌️😎👍
Hey Paul, I'm looking at picking one of these up soon (2010) and going to be hitting a decent trip later this year. Just kind of wondering if you've gone on any sort of longer range trip hitting a lot of constant highway miles and what kind of range you got on a tank during those. I've heard some varying numbers, but curious as to your personal experience if you've gone on any sort of long-distance touring trips with it. Thanks!
nightwolf667z if long distance comfort and range is a priority there are better options. My reasoning was how enjoyable it is as a daily driver and could it tour if I wanted too. In that respect it's the perfect bike for me. Many will say there is no other bike that will go 90+ for long periods as effortlessly as this bike can. If that sounds like you this is the one. Range is not great fuel light comes on at about 125miles with about 1 gallon to go 30-37mpg 4.9 gallon tank. Thanks for watching and commenting
Just stumbled onto this review...Great review! Currently own a Z900RS Cafe but seen one on craigslist sold by a dealer. Thinking about trading for this bike...maybe.
Ride it first…in fact ride for 30minutes to an hour if they will let you..I went from a Buell Firebolt XB9r to the VFR1200f..it was so different to what I was used too I didn’t appreciate how great a bike it was till I rode it 45 minutes on a test ride…the dealer knew what he was doing when he told me ride it as long as you want..after about 30 minutes I knew I would give him whatever he wanted to own this bike!!! I currently own a ZX14r a 2nd Gen Vmax and a Streetglide special but I still miss that VFR1200f
Not sure..but maybe you should have a Honda tech test ride and listen to see if it’s something to worry about or not? It might be cheaper to find out now rather than later btw…Thanks for watching and commenting.
It's a very good video, Paulk. I've a VFR 1200 F DCT and I'm loving. It's true, you can have two bike, one sport when you want take corners and tourer when you want go with your couple. It has an engine powerfull, brillant. I can assure that no many people can follow you, if you're a good pilot. I've made many adaptations and I've a very good bike, at my pleasure.
So I am watching your excellent review and as I am, I start noticing that the area you're riding in looks familiar. When I froze the video, I could read the street signs. Your home is a couple of blocks from where I lived in the 1960's on nw 66th ave about 3 blocks behind McArthur HS. Maybe this is a sign I need to get a vfr 1200f. My local shop in Atlanta has a 2010 with 25k miles. Small world right?
Yeah that’s amazing. The VFR1200F is a great bike. Test ride it if you can. I took a 30 minute rest ride and bought it on the spot at Rick Case Honda. God bless whatever your decision is and ride safely
Paul - This might apply more here in Aus (ADR restrictions) but the only whinge I had was the noticable dip in power around 3,500RPM. But I solved it via a power commander and akrapovic. ... and more power plus a beautiful note was nice! I have no idea why this bike didn't sell better? When you really get up it at the track, the heavy rear drive starts to cause "pogo sticking" as the front sorts out bumps quicker than the heavy rear drive can - BUT I love the shaft drive and it's shamed many a dedicated sportsbike. Oh, fully agree re Nil engine heat and the brakes - well stunning is all I can say after having a few underbraked bikes. Cheers and enjoy. I'm struggling to think of what I might ever replace it with.
+Anthony Spanjich excellent comment my friend and sounds like your a much better rider than me. I really don't know what could replace my bike either. Thanks for watching and commenting
+Mike Buckingham you've had some beautiful bikes! I'm 5'11if your a couple inches taller FJR1300 is better. The VFR looks like a wasp with its skinny tank and 3/4 of the size of FJR or Concours. With the super long distance you ride stick with FJR the VFR is more of a sport touring in a pinch and perfect for dreamers like myself that say "someday I'm gonna take a 1000 mile trip" but rarely if ever go. I use it as my daily commute and grocery getter. I ride it up to Palm Beach about 200 miles round trip to see my family up there. I'll ride with my buddies Cbr1000rr or Hayabusa or Gsxr1000 without feeling outclassed. it's perfect for that.
Great honest review! i'm looking into getting one of these myself. You mentioned some people notice a drop in power especially in the first few gears. From what i understand honda limited it in the 1st and 2nd gear. You say you don't notice it, but i see your dash indicates its always in 3rd gear or above. Some people used some software tricks to make the engine think its always in 3rd or higher gear to prevent the software block in first and second. Did you do this on purpose on your bike? and what was it like getting it adjusted? Any cons on it?
LJTeeuwsen I have the bazaaz 1st 2nd gear timing delete. But even with that people say it has a lull or hesitation in the fueling in the lower midrange but I don't notice it. Supposedly the Guy reflash eliminates whatever that is plus you get 1st 2nd gear indication without the timing reduced speed limiter removed and a extra 500rpm till rev cut. It's $385 after you send him your ecu. Anyways thanks for watching and commenting.
I'm wondering about the riding position. I currently have a GSX-R 600 and an FJR1300. According to cycle-ergos, the riding position of the VFR should be somewhere in between. My question to you is, can you ride the VFR for longer tours, with multiple 6 hour days in the saddle, comfortably? Or are you too far leaned forward for longer trips?
I wish I could give you an honest answer about a six hour ride on the VFR1200f I’ve never done it so I can’t even tell you how well it could do. The most I ever did without stopping is about 90 miles averaging about 90 miles an hour which is only one hour of course. The most I’ve ever done nonstop so far is about 225 miles and that is on a 2020 ZX14r. I can tell you the VFR is a lot more comfortable than a ZX14r. I don’t think it’s gonna be as comfortable as your FJ 1300 but it’s not gonna be anywhere near as bad as your 600. I know a lot of people put a lot of miles on the VFR without issue it’s just that I never did it myself personally. I hope that helps.
@@paulkmaster3231 Hi Paul hope you well my friend.I would like some advice please.What year model would reccomend me purchasing.I have been reading up and researching on so many motorcycles. I last rode 12 years ago on a zzr400cc,I need a tour and commuter.Many Thanks.
@@kidronreddy1671 hey I left you an email address to reach me but I haven’t seen anything from you😕..well I wanted ask you a couple of specific questions to try to narrow down a selection of bikes for you to check out…I never heard of a ZZr400 so I researched it and it looks like a really interesting motorcycle..I don’t think they ever sold it here in the U.S. if they did I would love to test ride it…anyways looking at the performance and size of that motorcycle obviously a VFR1200f is considerably heavier and bigger in size and a lot more power…but it is not hard to ride and it feels very light considering its weight…also for its seat height it’s easy to reach the ground with your feet because it’s so narrow between your legs..the throttle is very controllable so you can slowly get used to the incredible horsepower it has without it running away from you uncontrollably..anyways Please let me know if you are riding long distances or just commuting or both etc..try to give me some specifics..are you considering taking a passenger? How many miles at at time? Highway riding? Stop and go? Heavy traffic? How fast do you want to go? Etc…thank you
Man where is that Philips highway you're in Florida but I can't quite tell where you're at looks really familiar though... Miami ? Maybe ? I was born in Ft Lauderdale and this looks familiar 🤔
Love the bike. Have you had any final drive issues and how is low speed handling in traffic crawling. Some people say it’s hard to control the throttle and she lurches easily. Thanks for the review. I’m 65 with a BMW K1200LT she’s heavy at nearly 900lbs and not getting any younger but it’s good for me knees so I’m concerned at getting cramps in legs and pain on wrists leaning forward. Thanks 👍
My 110lb 5’2” Taiwanese wife can ride it. It feels very light and slim tank area makes it very easy to plant your feet. I’ve heard about fueling issues I’ve never notice anything weird. Mine was equipped with bazaaz 1st and 2nd gear eliminator when I purchased. Lost 1st and second gear indicator but it really moves. 1st gear power wheelies at 70mph stock doesn’t do that. So I think fueling issues are related to factory limits in 1st and second gears. Wet weight is 585lbs again I say it feels much lighter. I’m 53 and I gotta say I have to stretch my legs on this bike after 1 hour. I since switched to a streetglide I can go almost double before stretching maybe more with highway pegs after I install. Streetglide weighs 872lbs wet though. If you switch stop and go will be easier both planting your feet and a lighter clutch. I don’t know the handle bar position on the k1200LT but it’s more relaxed than k1300s I think on the big VFR. I was sad to let It go but I gotta slow it down so I bought a streetglide. Can’t match the performance of a k1200 but it is relaxing and fun. Oh yeah ..I had no driveline issues of any kind or any problems whatsoever it’s dead reliable. Driveshaft had a recall that was addressed before I bought it.
Adventure Hobbies I hate to say it but I traded in my beloved Vfr for something a lot slower 2018 Streetglide special. There was nothing wrong with my VFR I loved it ...it was an addiction but I had to slow down before my luck runs out. The Streetglide is very slow in comparison and soothing. I miss it ...one of the best bikes ever made in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
What is your realistic range on a tank of gas? Also sorry if i missed it in the video, did you remove the power restrictions in 1st / 2nd gear? Thinking about getting myself a very well kept VFR 1200F with on 3k miles on it, but its a 2011 so it wont be the "upgraded version"... Will also have to look into if the recalls have been carried out etc. Its a hassel but with only 3k miles on it i am so tempted.
Realistic range is 125-150 miles. If your heavy handed then expect not much more than 125miles. Yes the 1st and 2nd gear restrictions are gone but also are my 1st and 2nd gear indicators but it’s a fair swap. My bike was the 2010 so it doesn’t have the extra fuel capacity. I traded in my VFR and really missed that bike more than any other bike I’ve had. I traded it in for a 2018 Streetglide Special a couple years back wanting to slow down a bit. I missed it so bad I tried finding another in good shape but when I found one or two in my area they weren’t very well cared for like mine was. I ended up buying a 2020 ZX14r I gotta say the VFR isn’t that far off on real world performance plus it doesn’t have those beautiful and useful hard cases that look great with or without them on. Take it from me if you can get one in great shape grab it ...you won’t regret it. If you have any more questions I can help you with please feel free to email me at paulk.asemaster@gmail.com
@@paulkmaster3231 Thank you so much! I might just write later. :) Will testride the 2011 VFR tomorrow! And i know your pain, i gave up on a great VFR 800F, traded it for a GSX-S 1000, i need a honda back in my life it seems.
@@paulkmaster3231 Had a good go on the VFR today, what a nice ride! Smooth but fast and powerfull, did not feel like my GSX-S would have an easy time if it came to a dragrace haha. Really pleased with the feel of the bike in general, but omg the stock seat is awfull! Haha, i can only nitpick however. Looking into if the recalls have been carried out. If everything checks out i might end up joining the VFR brigade again :P
good review.... i looked at your gear indicator and noticed it starts in third gear (indicated) wich means u have the bazzaz z-bomb on there? does it work noticably and do the first and second gear feel much different?
+hessel tuit my bike came with it already installed so I can't answer that but I've heard without it it's pretty slow in comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting
+Martin Delira definitely more comfortable than a pure supersports or 95% of all nakeds. I'll put it to you like this it's only a little more uncomfortable than a FJR or Concours which aren't as comfy as a Goldwing or Harley Touring bike. Maybe an adventure bike with a lot of suspension and full upright position and big windscreen is more comfortable but none are as fast as a Vfr1200f it's a compromise either way. 2000 miles even on a goldwing is tiring. Thanks for watching and commenting
Simply the best Road Bike ever created! Small tank? who cares! I get over 360 km from mine in Australia, ready for a break before then anyway! Best reliable Honda on the road.. period.!! Reply
Hi everyone, I'm thinking on changing my nice Fz1n for Vfr1200f because of the pillion comfort.. How comfy this bike is for the pillion 165 cm tall? Thanks guys! 😁
Yup my gf is 5'2" and she says its comfortable. Standard seat is hard and slippery though. I have a rubber mech cover to put on her seat so she doesnt slip around too much, but it's still a bit hard. Definitely needs a comfort seat.
There a catch under the seat but that means you have to unlock the seat and remove to lock it in the D-ring and unlock it and remove seat to take D-ring back out. Too much work for me but in a pinch it’ll work. Thanks for watching and commenting
Biggest flaw is range... any bike like that should get at least 200 miles on a tank. Next for me (riding mostly bmw's all my life) is saddle bags should have been designed a bit bigger - they kinda look funny as small as they are mounted on the bike for me... too bad, otherwise a really nice bike.
I agree 100% those are the two biggest issues with this bike. It’s a ripping sport touring bike though super fast I don’t even think the new H2 SX is that much quicker 0-60 or in the quarter mile. I truly thought about replacing the Vfr1200f with an H2 SX but not that much faster. I opted for a 2020 ZX14r instead for now...it’s more my style of riding. Great comment thanks for watching
@@paulkmaster3231 It's a pretty bike and could have been such a unique sporty competitor - including the auto trans option - but for those who are interested, in my humble opinion, a good used K1200/1300GT is a bike I find very, very hard to beat...
Couple of problems with the bike in Australia, which is why they don’t hold there price. Because of high ambient temperatures particularly in summer. In city traffic the engine oil gets to hot and thin. The gearbox turns into a bag of loose nuts and nails. Party relieved by upgrading to 10-40W oil. Suspension is super cheap, ok on freeways and around the city but once you get out of the city on our awful roads it can’t handle it and frankly is quite dangerous, particularly the front. Just had a suspension expert look at it and going to cost me $3400 to get half reasonable suspension. His recommendation sell it and buy something else. Gearbox is clunky, engine is superb but snatchy at low revs because of lean fuelling to meet emission standards. I have a 2016 model, 380 Kms per tank.
Im sorry you had problems but haven’t experienced any of those things you mentioned. I’m also in a hot climate in south Florida Miami area. Roads are in decent shape here. But Always thought the suspension was very good. Brakes phenomenal gear box smooth and positive. Road temps are 100-110f most of the year has had zero problems with oil pressure oil also it stays clean and clear in the sight glass after over 7k miles. I only use full synthetic oil. I use the recommended weight oil not a higher viscosity. On this channel I had a subscriber that owns a 2010 VFR1200f with over 100k miles with no issues other than the driveshaft recall. Which I also had done free of charge by Honda. I actually traded in my VFR1200f for a 2018 Harley Streetglide Special they have me $9k for my 30k 2010 VFR1200f. That bike sold immediately too. I miss that bike after over a year. There isn’t one to be found in The whole state of Florida for sale. You also mentioned engine fueling issue I never had but someone installed a timing retard delete by bazaaz the only side effect was 1st and second gear indicator light always showed 3rd gear then it would indicate 4,5,and 6th accurately. Apparently a good trade off. Pulls front wheel off the ground easily without clutch now. That’s probably why they limit the power. That motor is a gem and the biggest reason I miss it so bad now. Oh yeah the fuel range is definitely not great I agree but it workable I’m ready to get off any seat after 150miles or so even my Streetglide lol
Paulk Master Don’t get me wrong on good roads the ride is good. But heavy traffic, everything gets notchy, on the road no problem. Anything under 3000 rpm, snatchy it’s renowned for both those issues here. Engine life And reliability, well it’s a Honda. Suspension, no low speed or high speed compression damping. Front forks it’s not possible to achieve correct sag by adjusting preload. The engine is phenomenal. So. I have contacted a company in Western Australia who have sorted all these fuelling issues out and improve toque and power across the rev range by ten percent. They are also going to get rid of the power restrictions on first and second gear. Just have to send them the ECU and part with $520. Suspension is going to cost me about $4000 to sort. Again they know of the issues and have the answers. You have to bear in mind our roads are really bad once you get out of the city. Once these are sorted it will be excellent. In Australia you can’t give the bikes away I bought mine a 2016 model brand new in 2018. It’s a strange world.
I’m a little biased but I’d pick the VFR of course..it’s lighter faster handles better has 6 speed vs 5speed (on most FJR’s) looks better when you ride without the cases but less comfy than the FJR also the cases are bigger and course the FjR has a decent size fuel tank
Don't test Ride a SDuke GT and from what I hear the Motus V bikes are just absolutely Insane you'll want to replace her at that point. I'm actually probably gonna Downsize to the Ducati Supersport or move up to the superduke GT in two years. Only time will tell. Yet, I will tell you what I hate about my VFR1200. I own a 800 so I have to say I do hate how hard it is to throw the bike around. The Fuel range for it's weight is also another major Pet peeve for me. Yet, my all time biggest con for this bike is that horrible power reduction Honda Incorporated into gears 1 & 2( USA bikes) or Gears 1 , 2, & 3( all 1200s outside of America) This system is stupid.. too many times it just cuts out power altogether if I stick in Low RPMs for too long and then it'll normally go back to normal and the bike shoots off unexpectedly... I have no problem with it normally but it happens at least 2x a week as I daily in traffic.
zip piz thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate that. As far as your question is concerned you would be less cramped on this bike then most sport bikes but I've heard a lot of taller riders I actually like all adventure bikes because they already have a very tall seat height and the writer triangle is more comfortable
Sorry autocorrect messed up.....getting back to what I said it's gonna be a little bit more cramped then An FJR or Concours. My recommendation if it all possible at least just sit on one and see how it feels and compared to other bikes that you're considering. Please let me know. I was fortunate enough to ride my bike about a half an hour to 45 minutes before I bought it in my first 5 to 10 minutes I didn't even want to buy it but it grew on me very quickly and I started appreciate it more. And it's been growing on me ever since it's just so good at so many different things and what I could do with it
I'll never understand why we still don't have a V4 version of the cbr. They wouldn't even have to do much to make it happen. Their V4 has been in production for decades, and we know they have a good handle on how to make a solid supersport frame. Just marry them and murder Aprilia.
I know ..but you never know maybe Honda will try again. Even though the Vfr1200f was IMO a great bike it wasn’t faster than a Hayabusa or ZX14r and since this is the successor to the Cbr1100xx Blackbird it didn’t win any horsepower wars with them. I think the new 2021 Hayabusa will be a sales loser as well because it too is slower less horsepower than we all hoped. I now own a 2020 Kawasaki ZX14r and I was worried I might have pulled the trigger to soon when the anticipated New Hayabusa was finally coming!!! No I didn’t have anything to worry about lol Sorry I got off track. It would be awesome if Honda came out with a V4 liter bike killer of Italian V4’s. Just like when Honda destroyed Ducati’s V twins. Maybe Honda will go back and do it again with V4’s ..we can only hope
@@paulkmaster3231 It's just too big and expensive though. Sport bike guys don't want a $16000 600lb bike when older, cheaper liter bikes can blow it out of the water. Touring guys don't want something that leans too far to the sport side of sport-touring at the expense of utilitarianism. It's just in a weird place. They need to go full super-sport with it imo. Smack Yamaha back down, and fire a shot across Aprilia's bow while their at it. Imagine the arms race that would follow.
Very weird at 8:29 that car driver decided to swap lanes like that in the intersection. They could see you were there. Chicken shit to be sure. I realize you do not get angry anymore. But the rest of us do. That was mean and chicken shit. Illegal too at least where I live. Dangerous. At 8:34 they did a brake check to the car behind them which almost made the car behind them move into your lane. Careless, mean, and illegal.
Yeah that doesn’t mean it isn’t comfortable for longer periods. I try to be honest in my review. This is the longest I went without stopping on this bike I just never had the opportunity to go further without stopping which was about 85-90 miles yes very fast too. I have gone much further on other bikes but not this one. For instance I went from Hollywood to just north of Key west without stopping on my 2018 Streetglide Special just last week it was great.
@@paulkmaster3231 I agree with Peter Taylor. One hour isn't what I'd consider touring comfort. You've put 25K on it and never more than an hour at a time doesn't make it sound comfy. I have a VFR800 and an hour to an hour and a half and I get butt burn such that getting off is a relief. And yet they call it a sport-tourer, too. Yeah, right. If only Honda would put a shaft and DCT on something other than an 800# bike (Gold Wing) they'd sell like hotcakes. But they don't.
tbillyjoeroth lol I said that’s the longest I’ve gone without stopping on this bike. It doesn’t mean it’s uncomfortable after 2 hours or more. Its just my trip was over after 90miles. In one hour zero fatigue. I’ve done the same on my 2018 streetglide special and at those speeds it ain’t comfortable. Also compared to a VFR800 it’s light years more comfortable both the rider pegs handlebar placement and wider seat make it better than a VFR800. It’s much more powerful comfy and it feels very light. The only thing better on the VFR800 is the exhaust note and about 50lbs lighter in the parking lot other than that it’s way better. Don’t believe me? Take it for a half an hour test ride around the corners and test out the power see if you it’s not better In Every way. Best of all you’ll never have to worry about little 600 super sports over taking you in a straight line lol
XX is a super cool motorcycle but hard to find and usually not good shape when you find one. The VFR1200f aren’t overpriced now and they were heavily discounted because of a lack of demand. The looks in person are much better than on screen. The quality of fit and finish are amazing as well. I know I never would have ever considered a VFR1200f till I saw one in person then test rode for over 30 minutes my salesmen said “ride it as long as you like and come back”. The salesmen knew what he was doing. I bought it right then.
holden caulfied so let me get this straight you know how tall i am lol. Your off by more than 4 inches. Trolls have one major thing in common ....no content it's amazing I never get negative statements from content rich RUclipsrs just people like you. Useless ...funny you used that term.
Show how to respectively ride the bike no wheelies its against the law and endangers evryones lives. When riding a motorcycle you have to respect it ; it can kill you in a split second.
Great review. Got mine about 6 months ago and love it. Done almost 10000km on it and no complaints.
+Andre Gous thanks for watching and commenting ...I think I’ll keep mine forever can’t think of a better all around everyday bike. Put another 2500 miles on it since last review pretty sure I’ll do a 50k review in the distant future
Nice review! Agree with most of your thoughts. I have had a blue 2012 VFR1200F that I picked up 2013. It is a great, Nice looking bike and very versatile. Wouldn't know what to replace it with...
I have a 2010 DTC and it's an incredible bike. I got it after putting over 100k miles on my VFR 750 (which I still have). The power difference is pretty awesome. No other motorcycle like these on the road. Perfect for me!
I agree with you 100%. It’s also a lot more powerful than a FJR or the Concours but not as roomy and smaller panniers. I would take off my panniers and ride with liter bikes and Hayabusa’s all day with no problems what so ever never felt like it was outclassed. Then put the panniers back on pick up four full grocery bags full of food etc.. Then take a 100 mile trip to my families house etc. perfectly size and 170hp do anything bike. I think the the closest thing now would be the H2-SX but I bet the Vfr1200f engine has more torque in the low to midrange which makes it so enjoyable. Thanks for your input😀👍
Thanks for the great review man been looking at these for the past few weeks as a second bike for touring you’ve just made my mind up. 👍🏻✊🏻
Steven Giles Thanks for the great comment I appreciate it. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. God Bless and Please ride safe 😇
Thanks for the excellent review. 8K servicing is outstanding! - I may have said it before, the British Royal protection guys and girls use VFR1200F's, they need to slice through London Traffic at warp speed, after the Metropolitan Police tested numerous brands, they picked the Honda VFR1299F's for their performance, handling and reliability.
+Moto Tingle Thanks very much my good friend Mototingle it would be great making a living by just riding that bike! Lol 😆
Wouldn' it tho...
I'm trying to - www.motofrance.eu great review...You wheelied it at the beginning ;-)
@@paulkmaster3231 I rode the 1200RT BMW for work before they went over to the VFR, Honda is the better bike by far. Although the BMW brakes are awesome.
I think Honda gave the Met Police a bloody good deal to generate sales. I have had two of these, one regular gear change and one DCT. Honda shafted early buyers by initially charging £1300 for three cases … then mid 2010 gave them away free ! Don’t ask me how I know 😢.
This bike... I just can't quit looking for it, studying it, watching vids on it.
I know what you mean…it’s a fascinating bike..it’s been a couple years now since I traded in my VFR1200f…I still miss it..I remember how it felt in my hands it’s so weird I can’t even remember what my current bikes feel like in my hands. I currently own a ZX14r a VMAX 1700 and a Streetglide. In a way the VFR1200f is like a mixture of those three bikes..Hyper bike horsepower like the ZX14r..powerful torquey V4 engine and shaft-drive like the VMAX and saddlebags and long distance comfort like the Streetglide. I bought those three bikes after I traded in my VFR1200f really the VFR1200f does it all. But no it’s not quite as fast as the ZX14r it is however faster than the VMAX 1700 and almost as quick only a .1 sec off to 60 and the quarter mile that’s virtually identical. Also it’s not as comfy as the Streetglide but it’s panniers are bigger and more practical for real world items..hope you can experience owning one it’s quite a treat..make sure to get one with the matching factory panniers..they are incredible..or take the off and run with the big boys…thanks for watching and commenting 😀👍
Excellent review, you covered everything , I wish that other reviewers would take a page out of your book. Top class !
was thinking about selling my 2013 zx6r as I want something abit more torquey but able to tour nicely and this is a very good review buddy and has tipped me even more towards it. thank you and ride safe brother
+The CuTThroat Biker zx6r is a great bike be sure the Vfr1200f is going to fit your needs..yes it's torquey and comfy but it is heavier and quite a bit different to ride i highly recommend a good test long test ride to be sure. Thanks for watching and commenting ✌️
Being a VFR 800 owner and admirer of the species, I’m still miffed Mr. Honda couldn’t tweak out the functional and aesthetic quirks of the 1200 before it was pulled from production. Undoubtedly, they’re excellent bikes to buy now that barely used and languishing floor models sell for a song, but why they never really sold in the first place isn’t that much of a head-scratcher. I do hope Honda learns from their hubris and doesn’t give up on the V-4 sport-tour category.
Honda NEVER learns from their hubris. That's their most salient characteristic.
Mpg around 30. In city traffic, she sucks.
BUT on the open road, at 4000rpm plus... It's Heaven! 😍
Im a jockey rider. Also have a gen2 busa. But i have always been a honda kind of dude since 7😂. This vfr bird is so much better build than the busa and so much friendlier position. Feels much lighter yet actually is heavier . And u dont see em everywhere...
An awesome bike and is shame honda stop producing em. I will sure get myself a used one soon. I love them metal horse v4 looks.
Amazing review man thanks for ur time sharing this
Sorry so late in replying you described it very accurately. It’s not as powerful as a 2gen busa but first gen Busa is pretty close very similar power. Feels lighter and more comfortable than both. I like they way Busa’s look my favorite. Love to one day get all white with solo fin busa.
Man, I just LUV the look of the VFR1200F ! Looks like Iron Man esp with the candy apple red colors and gold models
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+George Chan thanks a lot man I appreciate you watching some of my other videos. Please subscribe and check out my Buell Firebolt XB9r reviews and rides my other "vs" videos as well. ✌️😎👍
I know I am late to the video but thank you. Looking for another bike while I am still young enough to ride them. Hardly any reviews on this bike. This is the most positive I have seen. I think I will get one.
It’s a tough bike to beat. A great mix of power and comfort along with Honda reliability 😀👍. Hope you enjoy it very much. If you have any questions at all please email me at paulk.asemaster@gmail.com
I’ll be more than happy to help
Thank you very much
I'm 53 and I really like mine. Yes there are flaws with the bike ......range and comfort. I replaced the factory bars with risers, added a deflector on the windshield (looks terrible but functions great) and a better seat. My wife and I do long trips on the bikes so, it needs to be comfortable. The sacrifice on range and comfort is well worth it! Our longest day was from Lake Placid, NY to Wasaga Beach, ON, Canada on secondary roads when possible (about 12hrs with food, gas...). Enjoy.
Lovely to see a video review from a long term owner. I think one will be my next bike, but with an ECU flash to open her up a bit. It's a monster anyway, but an extra 20 or so horsepower and no restrictions in gears wouldn't go amiss.
Great review. You are a great speaker! Some of the 'professional' guys should take note. I want a VFR (badly) but dont know if I can give up my CBF1000fa.
Um ..I don’t know um...um ok?! People complain is say um a lot lol. It was an honest review on a great bike. Don’t know much about the CBF1000 but looks really good. Whatever you decide It looks like you can’t lose. 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting
Excellent review. As much as I love my Street Triple R, it’s not a bike for longer travels. I’ve been looking seriously at this bike as a second bike and I’m pretty convinced now. I think the extra weight must keep it really planted at higher speeds and 170hp!!! All good. Thank you!!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Street triple is an awesome bike as well. 👍
Beautiful motorcycle. One of my favorites.
+My Name thanks for the compliment. Thanks for watching and commenting
I swapped my ST1100 for a VFR1200F and have it for one week now. Very impressed by this bike. Also it surprised me that after 2.5 hr drive my but did not hurt. I always paused after 2 hours on my Pan European. Fuel consumption is higher though but so far absolutely no regrets. What a beast and the handling is so easy. However when parking my bike in the garage the steering circle is wider than the Pan, actually surprsed by this ...
During touring, driving slower, gives more pressure on the wrists but still not too bad.
Wish you many more happy kilometers, I know I will enjoy it for the years to come 👍🏻
Excellent comment thank you. I think I owe it to you to tell you I traded in my VFR1200F for a new 2018 Harley Streetglide. It was a knee jerk reaction because my close friend died on his sportbike and I had it in my head he must have been riding aggressively as a result. I found out months later he wasn’t speeding and that it could have happened to anyone. A very elderly driver made a U turn on the opposite lane right in front of him!!! I really enjoy my Streetglide but I miss my VFR1200F more than any other bike Ive owned so far. Sorry for the long explanation.
Yes the turning circle is wide for the VFR I’m thinking even my Streetglide makes tighter turns!!! All in all very few flaws with the VFR1200F. I never went more than a 100 miles without stopping on that bike. About one hour is the longest I’d ever go. Wouldn’t be surprised you could go a couple hours on it with no fatigue. But it never did any long trips on that bike. I bought it because I was commuting about 20-30 miles each way to work mostly highway during rush hour. I needed to be able to carry items on bike at higher speeds than my cruiser. I also really loved how good the bike looked with or without the hard cases. I would ride about 50% of the time without cases. I would ride with the most powerful sportbikes in traffic and easily kept up or surpassed them. Only a couple bikes made can do that. Bmw K1300 but Honda is just as fast and handles better and smoother engine. The new H2 SX but it doesn’t have the low down engine torque and it is very pricey plus potential reliability problems with the supercharger. There still isn’t a better sport tourer than that bike IMO if you want to ride hard...Very impressive.
Thanks for watching.
@@paulkmaster3231 Thanks for your response. I wish you many more safe kilometers and the important thing is that we are riding a motorbike, sharing a common interest independent of the brand :). Ride safe and I'm really enjoying my VFR and hope I can do it for many years to come!
@@paulkmaster3231 Hey man I have ridden the H2 SX a couple of times and I think the low down torque is pretty good, plus it spins up so fast that you are up in the rev range most of the time anyways :) Now that the H2 SX has been out for 5 years I have seen several of them above 55 000 miles and I have not heard much bad about reliability concerning the supercharger. A couple more years you should be able to buy H2SX bikes for cheap, there are already bikes going for below 14 000 dollars. The VFR1200F is still a solid option though but I like tech like cruisecontrol on my sporttouring bikes :)
@@mathias6423 thanks for watching and commenting. Well it’s been awhile now since I owned the Vfr1200f but I do have very fond memories of it. It’s kinda a long story why I got rid of it. I traded it in for a Harley Streetglide but latter I missed the Vfr1200f and so I also bought a 2020 Kawasaki ZX14r. To take its place. I felt right at home on the ZX14r it was no big difference in power or torque vs the Vfr1200f which is a testament to the Vfr1200f. Now I’ve never ridden the
H2 SX to be honest but I’ve seen roll on power tests with the H2 SX vs the ZX14r and the ZX14r just simply walks right past the H2 SX. It’s this torque that I crave so much and why I’m not likely to get rid of ZX14r any time soon if ever. I would love to see the Vfr1200f go head to head against the H2 SX. I’m pretty sure the Vfr1200f would take it on a top gear roll on till eventually the H2 SX would overtake. I think 0-60 times on the VFR are quicker 2.7 sec vs 2.98 for the H2 SX 1/4 times are extremely close as well 10.07 for the H2 SX vs 10.17 for the VFR1200f. The VFR has shaft drive which is just one more reason that makes it easy to maintain. The cruise control is a huge advantage and I agree could be a deal breaker when deciding between the H2 SX vs anything else. Again thank you for commenting
Got the DAM exhaust on mine too, couldn't think what to swap it for. It's a keeper
I looked at a 14 model, having owned a heavily modded Blackbird for 11yrs. Loved it but I have decided to go for a 19 H2 SX SE, that's what I want. Figure try out all the goodies
great review i totally agree i cannot believe the way the vfr covers the ground it makes 90mph feel like 60mph and the torque makes it so easy in top gear roll-ons.......the camshaft bears on shim buckets on the inlet valves and a rocker roller arrangement on the exhaust valves.
kjrutter17 thanks for correcting me on that I also realized after I already posted that the adjustment is not on top of the camshaft but right over the valve. Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it and I also appreciate your pictures and have a great time in Europe when you get there try to shoot some videos and some pictures and send them to me I'll post your back up again
i only know about the valve arrangement by watching this on youtube.....vfr1200 full service.mov by james wright-roberts ....interesting stuff :-)
kjrutter17 Thanks I'll check it out my friend 👍
kjrutter17 I checked the video thanks for clarifying. At least the exhaust valves are easy to adjust those are ones that get the most wear and most likely to need adjustments because of the exhaust heat and carbon build up. Great info thanks 👍
Excellent Explanation good service to Humanity and Riders Thanks next time give some information technical details
As always I enjoy watching your vids and this review of your Vfr 1200f. the bike looks almost brand new, you must really look after it. I'm sure that other folk would agree with me when I say that your presentation is very professional. Ever thought of doing some Public Speaking? You speak precisely, slowly and with no mistakes. Far better than some others I have come across on youtube. take care brother.
Jagged Lines Thanks for the kind words my brother in Christ. I drive people crazy with my many words and opinions from politics to religion to you guessed it motorcycles. What better place than RUclips to do my talking lol. I always look forward to your comments thank you and God bless you
I like it.. I'm a katana owner but this might be my second bike
love my 1200F. Get the Guhl reflash and feel this beast come alive!!
+ken clarkson Thanks again for watching and commenting Ken. I know I know and the DAM exhaust too!!! Just can't do it for now I've got three other bikes to tend too and my Vfr is my daily so it's the last bike to get that kind of attention!!!✌️
I got the Guhl reflash and am so happy I did.
Excellent review 👍👍 buying one in a couple of months they are rediculously cheap in Australia going to have a ride of the DCT vision first.
Good luck. It’s a wonderful bike. Thanks for commenting. Let us know when you get it.
Good luck. It’s a wonderful bike. Thanks for commenting. Let us know when you do get it.
Nice review. These bikes are under appreciated. I think around 2012 they made the tank a bit larger, which is good.
Stizzy Grayson thanks I appreciate that. And yes they are very underappreciated bikes. What is definitely appreciated by me. And the bike was a sales flop here in the states. And it's not an all out hyper bike. But it is hugely capable one that you can ride with your buddies on sport bikes or take a trip somewhere without fear. It would be very difficult to replace this bike with one bike I tell you I thought about it but there's absolutely no reason for me to do so until somebody makes a bike even more capable of what this can do! ✌️
The vfr 1200 being underappreciated is reflected to the bike's prices in Istanbul/Turkey, for instance, say a 2011 Busa is around 12K us.dollars, the price of an equivalent vfr 1200 is around 9 K us.dollars and the vfr has the better brakes. And one question Master Paulk, does not the vfr 1200f have vtec system? Looking forward for your new videos
Stizzy Grayson thanks for commenting again I appreciate that. Yes I believe Honda increased fuel tank .5 gallon which is just about perfect at 5.4 gallons in later models. I myself knew nothing about these bikes somebody had to tell me about them when I was looking at Zx14r's and Hayabusa's. I'm glad I did I saved a lot of money and possibly traffic tickets. These bikes with hard cases get no unwanted attention from law enforcement like a Hayabusa does and sacrifices very little in area of performance at the same time. Thanks again my friend
atillaadn actually no the Vfr1200f does not have vtec like the vfr800. It's valvetrain design was taken from the motocross Crf450! A simpler compact but effective design that really saves space and weight ...the vfr1200f engine is smaller and less weight than the vfr800 vtec engine!!! But the heavier frame and driveshaft system kinda offsets the engine weight advantage on the bigger Vfr. How are you enjoying your big Vfr?
Paulk Master I'm looking at the Honda VFR1200X CROSSTOUR. you answered my question., does this 1200 have vtech. Not having the Vtech could possibly be what pushes me across the finish line to pull the trigger. I like the fact it has screw adjusters for valves instead of shims. but to adjust you have to take the fuel tank, air breather and complete throttle body unit off. I've been riding a Moto Guzzi for 13yrs and it takes about 30 minutes to do a valve adj. But I do love the idea of owning the CROSSTOUR-X.
I have a 800 currently, gear cams so it sounds awesome, but when it comes time to upgrade I’m getting the 1200
The 1200 never gonna sound as good as your 800 btw. But it is fast ..much faster and more powerful. The Vfr800 has an incredible exhaust note one of the best in the motorcycle world the Vfr1200f just doesn’t 🙁
So please keep that in mind..Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@paulkmaster3231 my 800 will always be my go to, I just want a bike to keep up when my friend brings out his blackbird
I'm still going to have one of those someday.
VicJackpotRider I know you will but just like my VROD it'll never take the place of your Vegas Jackpot!!!! The Vfr is like just..a...ah like my grocery getter visit my mom 100 miles away commute in the rain don't worry if it gets dirty kinda bike in a hurry lol ✌️😎👍
I really want one of these. Trying to decide between a 2012 vfr1200 and a 2014 vfr800 ( @$2k cheaper). Drooling over both.
Maybe this will help a Vfr1200f can keep up with Hayabusa’s I know because I rode all the time with them. A VFR800 is slower than all 600 super sports. The 1200 is only 40lb heavier but has 70hp more. No chain! The only thing the 800 is better is sound it’s way better sound
Great review thanks. I have VFR800 thinking of going for the 1200
+Kevin Enfield they are both nice bikes thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Kevin Enfield look at the bmw 1600 gy
Hi Matt Just got me a brand new 800VFR will have a look at the1600 but sounds massive lol
I'm so buying one of these!
Thank you for watching. Ive owned many bikes and this one is one of my favorites I ever owned
I have Africa Twin 2016. Really cool bike I love it. I live it Thaland so a travel a lot with a Atwin. Now I come to Europe and think to buy Vfr 1200 for travel around all Europe +Russia. I think is good choice for speed and touring!
+Oleg Volobujev Africa Twin awesome bike wish I could find a use for it here in south Florida all dirt riding is banned. Vfr1200f and K1300 great for touring Europe in my opinion though I haven't been there a lot of people from the U.K. Seem to think so ✌️
Am have Honda vfr1200 in Miami.its so GOOD!Cbr 1000rr,Honda shado750 _its 3 my fever motors!change every day!
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African good to!
Been riding hondas for years, cb 750, cb 919, cb1000r and got me an fjr now (as I ride w my wife most of the time) so for 2 fjr is perfect. Looking at this vfr1200 but seems I'll have to sacrifice the luggage space and also cough up some more money too. Maybe as a single rider I would . So gonna stick w fjr, it's honestly a great bike. But thanks for the review ! 👍👍
Yes an FJR is an excellent bike for sure!
Great review. Even better that we live in the same city. So we use same roads.
Thank you for watching and commenting . What city are you in?
Email me if you might wanna go for a ride. My email is paulk.asemaster@gmail.com
its a all around bike ..love it man
+CM MOTO Thanks bro I appreciate you watching sorry the video was so long but a lot of people complain I don't give enough information on my reviews
Это самый хороший байк за последние 5 лет я ношусь на нём по Майами и очень счастлив.thanks
Love mine, agree with pretty much everything you say👍only issue with mine is the gearbox is a bit dodgy. 1st-3rd is perfect and slick. Into 4th is slightly clunky and I've had a couple of false neutrals. The worst is 5th-6th. I've had false neutrals quite often so I double clutch it in to make sure I dont do any damage. It either jumps out of 6th to a false neutral with a big grind or goes from 5th to the false neutral. Very annoying but I really love riding the bike
I don’t disagree ...I had a problem accidentally hitting neutral on 1-2 shifts particularly when I’m trying to hold a wheelie into 2nd gear. Every now and then I would get a false neutral or grind on 5-6 shift again only while riding very aggressive. Thanks for commenting and watching
@@paulkmaster3231 Seems like yours isn't as bad as mine. I just ride around it anyway, it's not too much of a problem. 1 person said that they just lost 6th gear, everything else worked fine. Luckily I bought the bike outright fairly cheap anyway.
I love that VFR, pity about the fuel range.
You can ride comfortably for only one hour?! I do 4 hours of motorway riding twice a week on my vfr vtec stopping only for gas.
The left case can fit a helmet if you tilt it so the top of the helmet is towards the wheel, helmet lock is possible via included Wire under the seat, works with D-ring helmets (like yours) 😁
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the advice thanks👍
@@paulkmaster3231 thank you for a great video, me and my gf went to Scotland from Sweden on our vfr1200f a couple of weeks ago, drove 3000km on total. Great bike - lots of power.
Wow that’s awesome👍
Never went that far on any motorcycle yet. Always impressed with people like yourself. God Bless you and thanks for sharing. I hope someday maybe me and my wife can do the same.
massive vfr fan got 2 750 models and the latest 800 model any v4 honda is good ridden a 1200 was very good well built like all honda bikes .
A 1200 doesn’t have the wonderful exhaust note of the 750’s or 800 but it does have incredible power and torque. I no longer have my VFR1200f I really miss it. I do now have a 2020 Yamaha Vmax 1700. I can’t tell the difference which one accelerates harder the VFR or the Vmax it is that powerful. The Vfr1200f certainly will beat it at top speed. Thanks for watching and commenting
I have a 2010 F model, the power is insane, smooth and linear........pulls like a rain. I agree with you that she needs to be nudged into corners but once the weight is in the right place she can hold a tight line for a big bike , certainly no CBR400RR.... But I digress, I have owned many bikes in my life from an 1100 Yamaha special (chopped and dropped) to 500 Laverda Montjuic.The VFR1200F is by far the most torque laden motor I have experienced. The bike is heavy, but once rolling the weight disappear.
Nice review. Check out riding through London, fighting bears style.
+Richard Cairns Excellent comment..owners of this bike truly love this bike and always tend to appreciate it more and more. Back in the day when I was a kid I dreamed of owning the 1100 midnight special the Laverda very rare only seen one in a bike show very cool. I will check out "riding through London fighting bears style" please continue watching my channel and commenting and subscribe if you haven't already if so I apologize
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Paulk Master Sorry that should be... sporting bears style...... London SEG.......
+Richard Cairns riding to parliament. Police escort very cool professionally done. Why do guys call it sporting bears?
Mine has the cat delete and tune. Sounds like a 1237cc chainsaw
Hey Paul, I'm looking at picking one of these up soon (2010) and going to be hitting a decent trip later this year. Just kind of wondering if you've gone on any sort of longer range trip hitting a lot of constant highway miles and what kind of range you got on a tank during those. I've heard some varying numbers, but curious as to your personal experience if you've gone on any sort of long-distance touring trips with it.
Thanks!
nightwolf667z if long distance comfort and range is a priority there are better options. My reasoning was how enjoyable it is as a daily driver and could it tour if I wanted too. In that respect it's the perfect bike for me. Many will say there is no other bike that will go 90+ for long periods as effortlessly as this bike can. If that sounds like you this is the one. Range is not great fuel light comes on at about 125miles with about 1 gallon to go 30-37mpg 4.9 gallon tank. Thanks for watching and commenting
Cooles Video!
Beautiful bike 🏍
Just stumbled onto this review...Great review! Currently own a Z900RS Cafe but seen one on craigslist sold by a dealer. Thinking about trading for this bike...maybe.
Ride it first…in fact ride for 30minutes to an hour if they will let you..I went from a Buell Firebolt XB9r to the VFR1200f..it was so different to what I was used too I didn’t appreciate how great a bike it was till I rode it 45 minutes on a test ride…the dealer knew what he was doing when he told me ride it as long as you want..after about 30 minutes I knew I would give him whatever he wanted to own this bike!!! I currently own a ZX14r a 2nd Gen Vmax and a Streetglide special but I still miss that VFR1200f
@@paulkmaster3231 lmao hope you well Paul.Me thinkinh to myself does this guy own a dealership. You mentione the zx14,harley etc🤣
Great review! My has a high pitch noise on deceleration? Should I be concerned or do they all do that? Thank you.
Not sure..but maybe you should have a Honda tech test ride and listen to see if it’s something to worry about or not? It might be cheaper to find out now rather than later btw…Thanks for watching and commenting.
It's a very good video, Paulk. I've a VFR 1200 F DCT and I'm loving. It's true, you can have two bike, one sport when you want take corners and tourer when you want go with your couple. It has an engine powerfull, brillant. I can assure that no many people can follow you, if you're a good pilot. I've made many adaptations and I've a very good bike, at my pleasure.
I’m very happy you like the bike and the video!!!
Great review!
Thanks very much for watching and commenting 😇👍
I love this bike
Nice bike. Nothing subtle about those gear changes though.
Nice video Paul. What version you have DTC and manual ?
+Златко Митев it's the manual 6sp thanks for watching and commenting
So I am watching your excellent review and as I am, I start noticing that the area you're riding in looks familiar. When I froze the video, I could read the street signs. Your home is a couple of blocks from where I lived in the 1960's on nw 66th ave about 3 blocks behind McArthur HS. Maybe this is a sign I need to get a vfr 1200f. My local shop in Atlanta has a 2010 with 25k miles. Small world right?
Yeah that’s amazing. The VFR1200F is a great bike. Test ride it if you can. I took a 30 minute rest ride and bought it on the spot at Rick Case Honda.
God bless whatever your decision is and ride safely
Paul - This might apply more here in Aus (ADR restrictions) but the only whinge I had was the noticable dip in power around 3,500RPM. But I solved it via a power commander and akrapovic. ... and more power plus a beautiful note was nice! I have no idea why this bike didn't sell better? When you really get up it at the track, the heavy rear drive starts to cause "pogo sticking" as the front sorts out bumps quicker than the heavy rear drive can - BUT I love the shaft drive and it's shamed many a dedicated sportsbike. Oh, fully agree re Nil engine heat and the brakes - well stunning is all I can say after having a few underbraked bikes. Cheers and enjoy. I'm struggling to think of what I might ever replace it with.
+Anthony Spanjich excellent comment my friend and sounds like your a much better rider than me. I really don't know what could replace my bike either. Thanks for watching and commenting
Hey Ride safe Paul - and I say that because I have lost 7 friends to bikes....
+Anthony Spanjich thanks very much Anthony
I have a 2014 VFR1200f. Had to replace the front discs, only use OEMs, had cheaper make on and they warped within 1000 miles.
Front disc is only thing that has gone wrong on my bike
GREAT review!!!! Still on the fence though. Such a beautiful bike! How tall are you?
+Mike Buckingham you've had some beautiful bikes! I'm 5'11if your a couple inches taller FJR1300 is better. The VFR looks like a wasp with its skinny tank and 3/4 of the size of FJR or Concours. With the super long distance you ride stick with FJR the VFR is more of a sport touring in a pinch and perfect for dreamers like myself that say "someday I'm gonna take a 1000 mile trip" but rarely if ever go. I use it as my daily commute and grocery getter. I ride it up to Palm Beach about 200 miles round trip to see my family up there. I'll ride with my buddies Cbr1000rr or Hayabusa or Gsxr1000 without feeling outclassed. it's perfect for that.
Thanks Paulk! I know, it's just such a cool looking bike. I'll probably not buy one, just admire from afar.
Hi @Paulk Master the VFR does have a helmet lock for the bike, but think it's under the seat?
The Vfr has a “D” ring hook under the seat. But it’s a hassle to lift the seat just to secure a helmet IMO. Thank you for watching and commenting👍
Great honest review! i'm looking into getting one of these myself. You mentioned some people notice a drop in power especially in the first few gears. From what i understand honda limited it in the 1st and 2nd gear. You say you don't notice it, but i see your dash indicates its always in 3rd gear or above. Some people used some software tricks to make the engine think its always in 3rd or higher gear to prevent the software block in first and second. Did you do this on purpose on your bike? and what was it like getting it adjusted? Any cons on it?
LJTeeuwsen I have the bazaaz 1st 2nd gear timing delete. But even with that people say it has a lull or hesitation in the fueling in the lower midrange but I don't notice it. Supposedly the Guy reflash eliminates whatever that is plus you get 1st 2nd gear indication without the timing reduced speed limiter removed and a extra 500rpm till rev cut. It's $385 after you send him your ecu. Anyways thanks for watching and commenting.
The guy autocorrect i meant Don Guhl
Does it have factory cruise control?
Love vfr. I had a old 750.
Yohosun no cruise control
I'm wondering about the riding position. I currently have a GSX-R 600 and an FJR1300. According to cycle-ergos, the riding position of the VFR should be somewhere in between. My question to you is, can you ride the VFR for longer tours, with multiple 6 hour days in the saddle, comfortably? Or are you too far leaned forward for longer trips?
I wish I could give you an honest answer about a six hour ride on the VFR1200f I’ve never done it so I can’t even tell you how well it could do. The most I ever did without stopping is about 90 miles averaging about 90 miles an hour which is only one hour of course. The most I’ve ever done nonstop so far is about 225 miles and that is on a 2020 ZX14r. I can tell you the VFR is a lot more comfortable than a ZX14r. I don’t think it’s gonna be as comfortable as your FJ 1300 but it’s not gonna be anywhere near as bad as your 600. I know a lot of people put a lot of miles on the VFR without issue it’s just that I never did it myself personally. I hope that helps.
@@paulkmaster3231 Hi Paul hope you well my friend.I would like some advice please.What year model would reccomend me purchasing.I have been reading up and researching on so many motorcycles. I last rode 12 years ago on a zzr400cc,I need a tour and commuter.Many Thanks.
@@kidronreddy1671 sure if you like you can email me at paulk.asemaster@gmail.com
@@kidronreddy1671 hey I left you an email address to reach me but I haven’t seen anything from you😕..well I wanted ask you a couple of specific questions to try to narrow down a selection of bikes for you to check out…I never heard of a ZZr400 so I researched it and it looks like a really interesting motorcycle..I don’t think they ever sold it here in the U.S. if they did I would love to test ride it…anyways looking at the performance and size of that motorcycle obviously a VFR1200f is considerably heavier and bigger in size and a lot more power…but it is not hard to ride and it feels very light considering its weight…also for its seat height it’s easy to reach the ground with your feet because it’s so narrow between your legs..the throttle is very controllable so you can slowly get used to the incredible horsepower it has without it running away from you uncontrollably..anyways Please let me know if you are riding long distances or just commuting or both etc..try to give me some specifics..are you considering taking a passenger? How many miles at at time? Highway riding? Stop and go? Heavy traffic? How fast do you want to go? Etc…thank you
i wish they update this in 2021
Man where is that Philips highway you're in Florida but I can't quite tell where you're at looks really familiar though...
Miami ? Maybe ?
I was born in Ft Lauderdale and this looks familiar 🤔
Hollywood Davie etc...so yeah pretty much Ft Lauderdale area
Love the bike. Have you had any final drive issues and how is low speed handling in traffic crawling. Some people say it’s hard to control the throttle and she lurches easily. Thanks for the review. I’m 65 with a BMW K1200LT she’s heavy at nearly 900lbs and not getting any younger but it’s good for me knees so I’m concerned at getting cramps in legs and pain on wrists leaning forward. Thanks 👍
My 110lb 5’2” Taiwanese wife can ride it. It feels very light and slim tank area makes it very easy to plant your feet. I’ve heard about fueling issues I’ve never notice anything weird. Mine was equipped with bazaaz 1st and 2nd gear eliminator when I purchased. Lost 1st and second gear indicator but it really moves. 1st gear power wheelies at 70mph stock doesn’t do that. So I think fueling issues are related to factory limits in 1st and second gears. Wet weight is 585lbs again I say it feels much lighter. I’m 53 and I gotta say I have to stretch my legs on this bike after 1 hour. I since switched to a streetglide I can go almost double before stretching maybe more with highway pegs after I install. Streetglide weighs 872lbs wet though.
If you switch stop and go will be easier both planting your feet and a lighter clutch. I don’t know the handle bar position on the k1200LT but it’s more relaxed than k1300s I think on the big VFR. I was sad to let It go but I gotta slow it down so I bought a streetglide. Can’t match the performance of a k1200 but it is relaxing and fun.
Oh yeah ..I had no driveline issues of any kind or any problems whatsoever it’s dead reliable. Driveshaft had a recall that was addressed before I bought it.
Do you check to see if anyone runs the light or just take off from a stop
+lottsalasagna lottsa times thanks for watching and commenting
Moving back down to tampa in oct. My vfr has 25k miles as well. Maybe we can do some group rides. Let me know.
Adventure Hobbies I hate to say it but I traded in my beloved Vfr for something a lot slower 2018 Streetglide special. There was nothing wrong with my VFR I loved it ...it was an addiction but I had to slow down before my luck runs out. The Streetglide is very slow in comparison and soothing. I miss it ...one of the best bikes ever made in my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
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What is your realistic range on a tank of gas?
Also sorry if i missed it in the video, did you remove the power restrictions in 1st / 2nd gear?
Thinking about getting myself a very well kept VFR 1200F with on 3k miles on it, but its a 2011 so it wont be the "upgraded version"... Will also have to look into if the recalls have been carried out etc. Its a hassel but with only 3k miles on it i am so tempted.
Realistic range is 125-150 miles. If your heavy handed then expect not much more than 125miles. Yes the 1st and 2nd gear restrictions are gone but also are my 1st and 2nd gear indicators but it’s a fair swap. My bike was the 2010 so it doesn’t have the extra fuel capacity. I traded in my VFR and really missed that bike more than any other bike I’ve had. I traded it in for a 2018 Streetglide Special a couple years back wanting to slow down a bit. I missed it so bad I tried finding another in good shape but when I found one or two in my area they weren’t very well cared for like mine was. I ended up buying a 2020 ZX14r I gotta say the VFR isn’t that far off on real world performance plus it doesn’t have those beautiful and useful hard cases that look great with or without them on. Take it from me if you can get one in great shape grab it ...you won’t regret it. If you have any more questions I can help you with please feel free to email me at paulk.asemaster@gmail.com
@@paulkmaster3231 Thank you so much! I might just write later. :) Will testride the 2011 VFR tomorrow! And i know your pain, i gave up on a great VFR 800F, traded it for a GSX-S 1000, i need a honda back in my life it seems.
Good luck on your test ride. Take it for a long test ride if you can. Not gonna sound as awesome as your VFR800 though just so you know.
@@paulkmaster3231 Had a good go on the VFR today, what a nice ride! Smooth but fast and powerfull, did not feel like my GSX-S would have an easy time if it came to a dragrace haha.
Really pleased with the feel of the bike in general, but omg the stock seat is awfull! Haha, i can only nitpick however. Looking into if the recalls have been carried out. If everything checks out i might end up joining the VFR brigade again :P
I get about 135 mile before I need to put petrol in again
Coming from a Concours 14, ST1300… Tempted for a VFR 1200 or Blackbird.
good review....
i looked at your gear indicator and noticed it starts in third gear (indicated) wich means u have the bazzaz z-bomb on there?
does it work noticably and do the first and second gear feel much different?
+hessel tuit my bike came with it already installed so I can't answer that but I've heard without it it's pretty slow in comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting
Hey mate, you still got it?
Have you done any long range riding? I want to know if riding 2000 miles in this is not as painful as with sportbikes.
+Martin Delira definitely more comfortable than a pure supersports or 95% of all nakeds. I'll put it to you like this it's only a little more uncomfortable than a FJR or Concours which aren't as comfy as a Goldwing or Harley Touring bike. Maybe an adventure bike with a lot of suspension and full upright position and big windscreen is more comfortable but none are as fast as a Vfr1200f it's a compromise either way. 2000 miles even on a goldwing is tiring. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@paulkmaster3231 Paul i sincerely appreciate all your information.As a newbie I learn alot from your replies in the comments. Thanks
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It’s the best Bike ever made
Simply the best Road Bike ever created! Small tank? who cares! I get over 360 km from mine in Australia, ready for a break before then anyway! Best reliable Honda on the road.. period.!!
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Hi everyone,
I'm thinking on changing my nice Fz1n for Vfr1200f because of the pillion comfort..
How comfy this bike is for the pillion 165 cm tall?
Thanks guys! 😁
My wife is 5ft 1in which is 155cm and she can ride my bike so I’m thinking you will be comfy.
@@paulkmaster3231 thx ;)
Yup my gf is 5'2" and she says its comfortable. Standard seat is hard and slippery though. I have a rubber mech cover to put on her seat so she doesnt slip around too much, but it's still a bit hard. Definitely needs a comfort seat.
sucks you can't lane split. thanks for the vid!
For once a good motorcycle review by someone
Av seen this video a few times.
Why your bike have a clutch. While other bike do not
Vfr1200f was available with either DCT or 6sp manual. The DCT version weighs 40lbs more btw.
so you can't lock your helmet anywhere????
There a catch under the seat but that means you have to unlock the seat and remove to lock it in the D-ring and unlock it and remove seat to take D-ring back out. Too much work for me but in a pinch it’ll work. Thanks for watching and commenting
Biggest flaw is range... any bike like that should get at least 200 miles on a tank. Next for me (riding mostly bmw's all my life) is saddle bags should have been designed a bit bigger - they kinda look funny as small as they are mounted on the bike for me... too bad, otherwise a really nice bike.
I agree 100% those are the two biggest issues with this bike. It’s a ripping sport touring bike though super fast I don’t even think the new H2 SX is that much quicker 0-60 or in the quarter mile. I truly thought about replacing the Vfr1200f with an H2 SX but not that much faster. I opted for a 2020 ZX14r instead for now...it’s more my style of riding. Great comment thanks for watching
@@paulkmaster3231 It's a pretty bike and could have been such a unique sporty competitor - including the auto trans option - but for those who are interested, in my humble opinion, a good used K1200/1300GT is a bike I find very, very hard to beat...
Does the fuel economy get any better with the ecu flash?
Im selling my 6t gen VFR800 because I need more power. V4 engines rule !!!!!!!
Couple of problems with the bike in Australia, which is why they don’t hold there price. Because of high ambient temperatures particularly in summer. In city traffic the engine oil gets to hot and thin. The gearbox turns into a bag of loose nuts and nails. Party relieved by upgrading to 10-40W oil. Suspension is super cheap, ok on freeways and around the city but once you get out of the city on our awful roads it can’t handle it and frankly is quite dangerous, particularly the front. Just had a suspension expert look at it and going to cost me $3400 to get half reasonable suspension. His recommendation sell it and buy something else. Gearbox is clunky, engine is superb but snatchy at low revs because of lean fuelling to meet emission standards. I have a 2016 model, 380 Kms per tank.
Im sorry you had problems but haven’t experienced any of those things you mentioned. I’m also in a hot climate in south Florida Miami area. Roads are in decent shape here. But Always thought the suspension was very good. Brakes phenomenal gear box smooth and positive. Road temps are 100-110f most of the year has had zero problems with oil pressure oil also it stays clean and clear in the sight glass after over 7k miles. I only use full synthetic oil. I use the recommended weight oil not a higher viscosity.
On this channel I had a subscriber that owns a 2010 VFR1200f with over 100k miles with no issues other than the driveshaft recall. Which I also had done free of charge by Honda. I actually traded in my VFR1200f for a 2018 Harley Streetglide Special they have me $9k for my 30k 2010 VFR1200f. That bike sold immediately too. I miss that bike after over a year. There isn’t one to be found in The whole state of Florida for sale. You also mentioned engine fueling issue I never had but someone installed a timing retard delete by bazaaz the only side effect was 1st and second gear indicator light always showed 3rd gear then it would indicate 4,5,and 6th accurately. Apparently a good trade off. Pulls front wheel off the ground easily without clutch now. That’s probably why they limit the power. That motor is a gem and the biggest reason I miss it so bad now.
Oh yeah the fuel range is definitely not great I agree but it workable I’m ready to get off any seat after 150miles or so even my Streetglide lol
Paulk Master Don’t get me wrong on good roads the ride is good. But heavy traffic, everything gets notchy, on the road no problem. Anything under 3000 rpm, snatchy it’s renowned for both those issues here. Engine life And reliability, well it’s a Honda. Suspension, no low speed or high speed compression damping. Front forks it’s not possible to achieve correct sag by adjusting preload. The engine is phenomenal. So. I have contacted a company in Western Australia who have sorted all these fuelling issues out and improve toque and power across the rev range by ten percent. They are also going to get rid of the power restrictions on first and second gear. Just have to send them the ECU and part with $520. Suspension is going to cost me about $4000 to sort. Again they know of the issues and have the answers. You have to bear in mind our roads are really bad once you get out of the city. Once these are sorted it will be excellent. In Australia you can’t give the bikes away I bought mine a 2016 model brand new in 2018. It’s a strange world.
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+Yongwook Kim thanks
I notice you don’t match revs when you downshift. You could avoid clunking the gears.
This or a fjr 2007?
I’m a little biased but I’d pick the VFR of course..it’s lighter faster handles better has 6 speed vs 5speed (on most FJR’s) looks better when you ride without the cases but less comfy than the FJR also the cases are bigger and course the FjR has a decent size fuel tank
@@paulkmaster3231 thanks
How do you wheelie it!?
Just hold the throttle it will come up no need to pop the clutch. Thanks for commenting
@@paulkmaster3231 thanks. I was doing just that...trying to pop the clutch and it wouldn't raise at all.
Don't test Ride a SDuke GT and from what I hear the Motus V bikes are just absolutely Insane you'll want to replace her at that point. I'm actually probably gonna Downsize to the Ducati Supersport or move up to the superduke GT in two years. Only time will tell.
Yet, I will tell you what I hate about my VFR1200. I own a 800 so I have to say I do hate how hard it is to throw the bike around. The Fuel range for it's weight is also another major Pet peeve for me. Yet, my all time biggest con for this bike is that horrible power reduction Honda Incorporated into gears 1 & 2( USA bikes) or Gears 1 , 2, & 3( all 1200s outside of America) This system is stupid.. too many times it just cuts out power altogether if I stick in Low RPMs for too long and then it'll normally go back to normal and the bike shoots off unexpectedly... I have no problem with it normally but it happens at least 2x a week as I daily in traffic.
Paul,
I'm 6.6 f tall & i would like to buy it. Is there any problems because of it ??☺
zip piz thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate that. As far as your question is concerned you would be less cramped on this bike then most sport bikes but I've heard a lot of taller riders I actually like all adventure bikes because they already have a very tall seat height and the writer triangle is more comfortable
Sorry autocorrect messed up.....getting back to what I said it's gonna be a little bit more cramped then An FJR or Concours. My recommendation if it all possible at least just sit on one and see how it feels and compared to other bikes that you're considering. Please let me know. I was fortunate enough to ride my bike about a half an hour to 45 minutes before I bought it in my first 5 to 10 minutes I didn't even want to buy it but it grew on me very quickly and I started appreciate it more. And it's been growing on me ever since it's just so good at so many different things and what I could do with it
Just quick question: what is stock tires for bike? I mean a brand. Thank you
+Oleg Volobujev Dunlop road smart 2 190/55 17 rear 120/70 17 front I have switched to Michelin road 4's I'm happy with these so far
Thank you ' as I though is Dunlop. Yes road 4 is a good choice
+Oleg Volobujev Thanks for watching and commenting ✌️
Wpb cagers...we just gotta expect it
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I'll never understand why we still don't have a V4 version of the cbr. They wouldn't even have to do much to make it happen. Their V4 has been in production for decades, and we know they have a good handle on how to make a solid supersport frame. Just marry them and murder Aprilia.
I know ..but you never know maybe Honda will try again. Even though the Vfr1200f was IMO a great bike it wasn’t faster than a Hayabusa or ZX14r and since this is the successor to the Cbr1100xx Blackbird it didn’t win any horsepower wars with them. I think the new 2021 Hayabusa will be a sales loser as well because it too is slower less horsepower than we all hoped. I now own a 2020 Kawasaki ZX14r and I was worried I might have pulled the trigger to soon when the anticipated New Hayabusa was finally coming!!! No I didn’t have anything to worry about lol
Sorry I got off track. It would be awesome if Honda came out with a V4 liter bike killer of Italian V4’s. Just like when Honda destroyed Ducati’s V twins. Maybe Honda will go back and do it again with V4’s ..we can only hope
@@paulkmaster3231 It's just too big and expensive though. Sport bike guys don't want a $16000 600lb bike when older, cheaper liter bikes can blow it out of the water. Touring guys don't want something that leans too far to the sport side of sport-touring at the expense of utilitarianism. It's just in a weird place. They need to go full super-sport with it imo. Smack Yamaha back down, and fire a shot across Aprilia's bow while their at it. Imagine the arms race that would follow.
Very weird at 8:29 that car driver decided to swap lanes like that in the intersection. They could see you were there. Chicken shit to be sure. I realize you do not get angry anymore. But the rest of us do. That was mean and chicken shit. Illegal too at least where I live. Dangerous. At 8:34 they did a brake check to the car behind them which almost made the car behind them move into your lane. Careless, mean, and illegal.
Not familiar with that model really. Enjoyed.
+nwroadrat Thanks nwroadrat thanks for watching
Wow ... An hour huh !!
Ha ha ha lol lmao...
Are you kidding me.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that doesn’t mean it isn’t comfortable for longer periods. I try to be honest in my review. This is the longest I went without stopping on this bike I just never had the opportunity to go further without stopping which was about 85-90 miles yes very fast too.
I have gone much further on other bikes but not this one. For instance I went from Hollywood to just north of Key west without stopping on my 2018 Streetglide Special just last week it was great.
@@paulkmaster3231 I agree with Peter Taylor. One hour isn't what I'd consider touring comfort. You've put 25K on it and never more than an hour at a time doesn't make it sound comfy. I have a VFR800 and an hour to an hour and a half and I get butt burn such that getting off is a relief. And yet they call it a sport-tourer, too. Yeah, right. If only Honda would put a shaft and DCT on something other than an 800# bike (Gold Wing) they'd sell like hotcakes. But they don't.
tbillyjoeroth lol I said that’s the longest I’ve gone without stopping on this bike. It doesn’t mean it’s uncomfortable after 2 hours or more. Its just my trip was over after 90miles. In one hour zero fatigue. I’ve done the same on my 2018 streetglide special and at those speeds it ain’t comfortable. Also compared to a VFR800 it’s light years more comfortable both the rider pegs handlebar placement and wider seat make it better than a VFR800. It’s much more powerful comfy and it feels very light. The only thing better on the VFR800 is the exhaust note and about 50lbs lighter in the parking lot other than that it’s way better. Don’t believe me? Take it for a half an hour test ride around the corners and test out the power see if you it’s not better In Every way. Best of all you’ll never have to worry about little 600 super sports over taking you in a straight line lol
Respectable engine output, to bad it was so overpriced and fugly. I'd much rather have an XX.
XX is a super cool motorcycle but hard to find and usually not good shape when you find one. The VFR1200f aren’t overpriced now and they were heavily discounted because of a lack of demand. The looks in person are much better than on screen. The quality of fit and finish are amazing as well. I know I never would have ever considered a VFR1200f till I saw one in person then test rode for over 30 minutes my salesmen said “ride it as long as you like and come back”. The salesmen knew what he was doing. I bought it right then.
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He says it's comfortable for an hour, but he doesn't say how tall he is! Useless review. He's probably 5'-7" that's why it's so comfortable for him.
holden caulfied so let me get this straight you know how tall i am lol. Your off by more than 4 inches. Trolls have one major thing in common ....no content it's amazing I never get negative statements from content rich RUclipsrs just people like you. Useless ...funny you used that term.
Paulk Master good to see you back Bro! What would we do without the trolls haha, I enjoy toying with them, lol. ride safe Bro!
Show how to respectively ride the bike no wheelies its against the law and endangers evryones lives. When riding a motorcycle you have to respect it ; it can kill you in a split second.