FAT SUIT ON A SPORTS BIKE - HONDA VFR1200F, THE BEST SPORTS TOURER EVER?
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
- 📷 commando_australia
Have heard of the term Goldilocks "something". Is the Honda VFR1200F DCT possibly one of the only "Goldilocks" motorcycles out there.
Not one thing or the other but just the perfect blend of awesome. Tick..... Tick...... Tick.
Win, win all round.
Msybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a overstretch to say this is the perfect motorbike. 
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I bought a VFR1200F DCT just before the snow hit Scotland. A great second hand buy it is superb for a ten year old bike it. It has aged really well. Looking forward to the spring.
Modern classic. 💯 ❤️ So much bang 4 ya buck👍
I'm 71 and had my 2010 since . 2019. I've driven over 300 miles a day several times and was fine. Love the bike...bought with 4000 miles on...full pannier and back box....£5500...bargain. Great fun
Unicorn bike. Name me a alternative? Can't think of one👍🇦🇺🤷🤷🤷
@@Paul_Zernick me neither
I'm 60 years of age and i ride a VFR1200FD DCT from 2015 great bike greetings from the Netherlands
So long as it doesn't get hit again, hope to still have mine when I'm 60. Love a good sports tourer. Can't think of a direct replacement atm. 🤔🤷💯🇦🇺
oooo echte ik wil er ook een gaan kopen
zijn best goedkoop nu
Excellent insights. Totally agree. What's best is it has Honda build quality and reliability. Can't ask for a better bike. Cheers.
Wow - excellent review and commentary. Watched the whole thing! I have an ST1300 and am looking at getting one of these and this helped. Thanks
Had a CTX1300. Baught this not long after. They both came out of Goldwing youtubing. I've got the wing now, traded the CTX for a R1. Granted the CTX is a de-tuned ST, but the VFRs 1200 V4 is no 1300. It is something else.
Ride one if you can. I had to have the DCT. Love tech. But you have the option. I think DCT suits. That's me but. Sorry, no ST comparison. 265kg 170hp. Do the maths? Goes in VFR favour some ways🤷😜👍
Great review nice comparison and unlike so many others you know what you are talking about. Well done.
Appreciated mate, cheers🇦🇺😉
Beautiful! Congratulations
Back in 2010 I had had Honda CBR600, two Fireblades but was considering something fast, beautiful and comfortable for longer rides. Rode the Fireblade to the Honda dealer, saw the VFR 1200 and thought it looked great.
Took the DCT 1200 for a ride. Seriously impressed. Nice on roundabouts in England, good speed up, brakes, position.
The gear change was great too. I've driven car automatics so I wasn't hostile to an auto bike. Honda got it right with having a manual option on the DCT as well as sports or relaxed modes. The gear changes were super smooth and fast. Typical Honda of that time.
Great bike.
If they put a 22 litre tank, a few modern features like cruise control, charging socket or two, then I'd be tempted.
I really like the glossy paint in a single colour. I also bought a silver single colour Honda Fireblade because of the colour instead of the multi colour.
Only thing I'm missing is cruise. I'll buy a MC cruise once back in stock. Had it on my CTX1300. Like oem.
Love Honda candy red. Had 3 reds at once. VFR1200F, CTX1300, GL1800. 2 DCTs. Traded the CTX1300 for my 2013 R1. White & blue.
Didn't Vlog before on my ducati or CTX1300. No vids. No biggy, don't miss either. From here on in I add bikes. If..... If I must drop 1, itll be my VFR1200F for a H2 SX SE. If, if it's comfortable and relaxed. I will need to still pull 2-3 long days on it. So far thou, VFR1200F, great pokey, fairly nimble mile muncher. Few bikes out there can compete.
Pulled near on 500k yesterday, all back roads n twisty. Chucking 270kg, came off fresh as a daisy. No mean feat. Yeah I'm a big boy, 6'2 105kg. Still takes a bit of effort to lean a big bike in, but it doesn't wear me out. It's a hell of a thing. 💯🇦🇺
This guy sounds just like the rock guy in Thor movies!
Your best bike. Hands down. More VFR PLEASE
Just booked in another ride Saturday. Bike TBC. Vlog it? Maybe. Chick running it is on a Panigale...... Soooo...... 🤔 🤔 🏍️😜
I own a fjr 1300 as and a vfr 1200 dct. Love them both
Great review.
I really like my manual 2010, only missing cruise control.
It’s perfect for long commute/a couple of trips and a couple of track days a year.
When it’s too seldom and buying and maintaining a dedicated bike for each application is unreasonable.
One bike to rule them all. MC Cruise. Out of stock atm. One day. Had on my CTX1300 👍💯🇦🇺
@@Paul_Zernick I have 14 videos vlogging on it, one is about dealing with gear/bike acquisition syndrome, looking for stuff while we should enjoy what we have instead:
ruclips.net/video/tBoxAGG5MZk/видео.html
@@RoeyHaviv always gotta window shop. There's alot of candy out there. It's nice to have options. Not do much in the sports tourer sector though. Dying market. H2 SX SE is 56L hard cases. Well short of the VFRs 90L. Better bike? 100%. Better tourer? Not if you go off luggage capacity. 56L is a 1-2 nighter in a motel. 90L+ is a week. Even camping if available. I'm looking, just in case........ Yes the H2 is on my watch list........ But for now 90L is preferred. Can always fit MC cruise to make the days go by easier.
@@Paul_Zernick I don’t need a lot of luggage space and was very impressed with the new Aprilia Tuono V4 (non factory) and the KTM Superduke GT but honestly if I had all of them in the garage, I would ride the VFR more often.
Those bikes have no chill, they’re built to push through the whole ride.
@@RoeyHaviv VFR is built for the ride, no doubt. Luggage is the bonus. But yep, I use em. As you can see, I don't take em off👍😉
I have a 2010 and love it. It's fast as hell and was ahead of its time. 2 gripes: it'll pop out of 2nd on a full throttle run if I don't use the clutch and I get a sputter leaving stoplights once a month or so. Kinda scary if I have a bunch of cars behind me.
DCT with a couple of bazzaz tuners under seat. DCT solid. Tuners, won't pretend to know. Though pretty smooth & predictable. So won't complain.
Got my eye on a VFR DCT with 100,000 km on it. Any thoughts on issues i may face?
Yes, i have one 2013 👍✌
I have the 1200x vfr crosstourer and it’s superb . Same engine but more torque moved down the rev range and less bhp .
Still considering adding ADV. But I smash bush trails heaps on my goldwing...... So ....... Maybe not. Would love to do dirt over 60-80kph but..... 🤷 🤔
Had one for two years in Australia from new, love the engine, handling good. Gearbox, manual, gearchange absolutely shocking. Quality excellent but the big, big bitch suspension. At the launch the hype on this bike which was Honda's flagship was exciting. But it never lived upto Hondas expectations, the DCT would provide the answers to that awful gearbox. Luggage with virtually no possibility of suspension adjustment, means problems. Coming over a hill into a dip and back into a hill meant a hard slam on the front forks which bottom out really hard like hitting a brick. This was a continuing problem. It was not possible for me to adjust the suspension to get the correct sag and suspension travel (I weigh 75Kg) The answer to turn this into a awesome bike would be buy the DCT version, new decent forks and rear suspension. Wouldn't take it on the track with that suspension.
People are still chucking ohlins on these 15yrs later. Nah, I re-vamped mine. Front n back. YSS/hyperpro. Ohlins? Way overkill for this bike. But everyone's got hyperpro, nitron, wilbers etc on the back by now. DCT is fab. DCT on my 18 wing is not much better. So it's a reliable consistent stable predictable box. Tbh, was never ever going to get this bike without. Got the VFR before the wing. Would I get DCT on a VFR X or africa twin? 🤔🤔 🤔 Not sure yet. Yes, not ruling out adding a X. I end up on dirt regularly, I'm keen to do more. No, don't need to spend $4k+ on suspension. But yes does benefit from aftermarket. It's a daily query on FB groups. I was fine, till I wasn't. Won't rule out more work again at a later stage. Otherwise?? Fukkn weapon. Replaceable? Nope. H2SXSE....... Maybe...... 🤷 Now? Definately not.
just sums up the vfr 1200f love mine its a fast sports bike with comfort you dont know how good they are un till you have owned one for a while.
💯 I love the looks. Actually why I baught it. Unique. Like nothing else. Others, I'm sure it turned them away. Their loss. Once you've dropped a 4-500km day, you understand. Freeways? Probably double. I like my breaks. 500km is a good 10hr day for me, off motorways. Easy........ Rinse, repeat.
Hey mate I watched your video regarding fat suit on a sports bike Honda vfr1200f.
Great video and aligns with exactly what I think of the bike.
I happen to own one myself and I'm interested in swapping riser bars for standard bars if you are interested can you get in touch with me please
Mine got a tree drop on it. As part of repairs I'm going to fit a set of OEM bars back on. One of the helibars snapped. After my R1 time now, the helibars feel a tad high. If I like it it. Great. If not I'll repair helix & refit. #timewilltell
Disappointing that they no longer manufacture these
Euro 5 & ADV's killed these. Blame all the posers & pretenders on GS1250s🤔😉💯
Honda brought out the NT1100 to supplement the African twin🤬
Great description of the vfr1200f but hey don't tell everyone mate let's keep these bikes a secret and keep them gloriously cheap hehe
Yes, very under appreciated & undervalued. Best bang for ya buck bargain out there. Though has seen greater used interest than new. Market misread it at launch. Their loss.
They go for 8k in my area sadly@@Paul_Zernick
@@cnw-jd9tt $7-12kAU condition, k's, extras. 10 a good avg. 1 DCT 8 manual in Australia 🇦🇺 atm.
@@cnw-jd9tt Im probably about to buy one for 5K
How's it going, im 5'6 and don't know my inseam.. Is this bike too big for me?
@@alitoroganan2442 I'm 6'2. My opinion is 💩.
No not a small bike. Change pegs, bars & seat? Yep.
Enough for you? 🤷
Can I flat foot. Of course. Would I buy anything I can't? 🤔 Not sure.
Would I want to tippy toe 265kg?
Yrsci have dropped mine in a wet car park. Yes I did end upp with 265kg on top of me. Yes I needed a mate to lift it off me. Learnt a lesson that day. Have special rain shies that know.
How low can the seat go. Need to google. Though I have seen one on bikesales before seemed noticeably low, so........... 🤷
But yeah, I'm not the guy to ask. Hit up a 5' 7-9" guy. Might help.
Graham_vfr on here maybe 🤷
I own one and agree
What a beautiful bike! If you ever get to ride a hayabusa would love s comparison
Have. Current gen. Silver & red. Beeeeeeeaaaautiful!!! No comparison. 2010 VS 2020+. Old busa? No. Though have hopped on one and find the ergos 💩💩💩
New busa feels very much like a ZX14R. Which I also love.
Unfortunately there is no such animal as a 2020+ VFR1200F 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
#bringitback
@Commando Australia
Yeah the vfr is something else !
I really meant the gen 2 hayabusa tho
I would love to see how the 2 compare as a pure sports tourer
Not sure of I commented it before but I have a blackbird and look at those 2 bikes!
@@modoudrammeh $$. One is new one cost peanuts. Luggage vfr. Don't know anything about hauling gear on busa. I know the ZX14R can fit a rear cargo rack. 1000sx and H2 SX have 56L hard bags.
Nude? Just bash a busa if ya got the coin. Or go a H2. I'm watching H2 SX SE as a possible replacement in 5yrs+.
@Commando Australia
Nice one
Yeah the h2 sx what a bike only if I had it like that lol
@@modoudrammeh 2nd hand😉 like I said, watching. Once they hit sub $15k I'll think about it. Provided I can offload the viffer for roughly half.
I never buy new. Never!!!!
love my viffer1200... not DCT but love it...has anyone tried to steal your bikes with them being on the street?
Super quiet area. Disc locks. Outside my bedroom. No one comes through here. 1 road in/out estate.
I want this bike sooooooooo bad
If you want 90-105L hard removable storage? Yes. If you want relaxed speed, ZX14R. Old busa unimpressed. New busa very impressed.
Best Sports tourer out there. 30% FJR 70% ZX14R.
Yes, hoping to add a 14 one day. For long 1 day blasts. Carry some 💩, picnic etc, take my time, a few days. VFR1200F! Yes can hit some serious speed & still turn with the luggage. Does do everything very well. CBR? No. Never asked it to be. Got my R1 for that. Truth....... Been faster on my VFR1200F than my R1 anyway. 250k+ VS 240ish🤷🏻♂️
Real world back road speed. Alot more planted & stable.
I'm jelly you can leave your bikes out like that, they get stolen out of our driveways
Yeah, I'm lucky. Other neighbourhoods, forget it......my Lil oasis, been
Here since 2008.
Hi mate. I owned a 2002 VFR800 for ten years and put 200,000km on it. When the VFR1200 came out I was super disappointed at the time with the removal of the lumpy V4 sound. I now own a BMW K1300R as my sports tourer and I do love it (even though it's just an inline 4). I'm curious if you've ridden a K1300S or R and how you would compare them?
Firstly. Lumps. Got plenty. A R1 and a Jeep 6.4 SRT. No Jeeps not cammed. Will one day, but won't be a lumpy cam. Just your typical bent cam push rod V8. Opposite on my R1. Well, not, but kinda, it's lumps come front the cross plane. Characteristics of the cams change on a I4. Uneven firing order, all that.
Yes, the 1200s V4 is a totally different beast. 76° VS 90°. Unicam VS twin cam. Firing order 1, 4,2,3 vs 1,3,2,4. 1200 fires rear bank continuously, shuts off front bank when not needed. There is a whole thing to the big pig. Quite clever packaged motor.
Now, to other big donks. 1300, 1400. I4.
I'll pre-empt this by saying.......... ZX14R. No, not 1400 GTR. I'm not "currently" interested in a upright tourer. I have my 18 DCT Wing. If I really wanted to go upright, only, I'd probably go a K1600GTL/GA. So the 1400 is out. The FJR is out. But..........
I'd love a hyperbike. A ZX14R or current model busa. Have ridden new busa(hate older models) and it is sublime. Truly a thing of beauty. Smooth, powerful, effortless, endless pull, modern, throaty. Blah, blah, blah. Yet to ride a ZX14R. Hopped on plenty. I would, as all my current bikes, happily buy a 14R unridden, unseen. Just send it!
Yes, never rode, hopped on, or saw a R1, VFR1200F, goldwing at all, just baught all. Unseen, interstate. A 14R? Will gladly also.
K1300 was not on my radar at time of VFR1200F purchase. I've become aware of it since. Not sure I'll ever ride a K 13. Not in market to replace my 1200. If, I do, 99% it'll be a H2 SX SE in a few years time. Add to my collection? Hopefully a 16+ 14R and one day a current busa. If only one...... Then dollars might rule...... A 14R I assume. Though if I replace my VFR1200F with a H2 adding a current busa would be nice. Touring, proper, I'll keep my wing. Eagerly anticipating the 50th anniversary GL in 2025.......
However desperately want to try a K16 at some point. Buy? Unlikely. Reliability & dealers let it down. I want to lap my wing around & across Australia 🇦🇺 👍
BMW? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
@@Paul_Zernick interesting. If you can get your hands on a K1300R (specifically, as it has shorter gearing than the S model and was, at the time, the fastest accelerating prod bike on release), I'd be curious what you think of it.
@@KaldekBoch I'd have to do some homework. Though as it seems to be out of production and last model 2016,that overlaps with my intention to get a team green 200hp. The 16 ohlins special 14Rs are creeping down to $15kAU & under now. As that'll be my 4th bike it needs to drop a few more k and I might be in the Mrs good books. She's just got over the R1.... 🤔 😂🇦🇺
@@Paul_Zernick gosh mate, I didn't want you to go out and buy one! Just, ya know, borrow one from a mate for a day.
@@KaldekBoch bike swapping is a hard thing. I saw a 1300 this weekend on last group ride. Wouldn't have felt comfortable giving him the keys to the wing. 😂
Did offer a swap on a Rocket 3 GT once. For the wing. No response. Gutted.
Long, long time since I seen guys swap.
Mates? Fukkkin Hardleys. Zero interest. 😂
A biger gas tank and Cruise control would be makind this bike perfect, i own one too ,love it..😊
Fuel fine. Near on 300k. Cruise? 2010. If a 2020 bike, yep it would have. MC Cruise. Out of stock atm. $700. I'm watching. Had on my CTX1300.
A bigger gas tank and it wouldn't be the bike it is. 5 gallons of fuel is plenty for a bike like this. I can go over 180 miles on mine at 70mph before the last bar starts blinking, and it usually takes around 4 gallons of fuel at that point. I haven't owned many bikes that do much better for range.
@@OddBallPerformance people forget this is the fastest hyper bike tourer on the market. If they want range get a ADV or FJR. Won't be in a tuck at 250kph+ with 90L hard removable bags but.
I never got the panniers with mine which I really regret. Unfortunately it now sits parked up with a blown 6th gear and I don't like I ke my chances of finding a mechanic to repair it.
Ask around. DCT?
@@Paul_Zernick non DCT
@@markhingst5368 shouldn't be out of the norm......if you want to keep.🤔
@Paul_Zernick I suspect a very expensive repair, just not sure I want to spend that kind of money on the bike given that it has 125000 km on it. May be better off putting that into a new bike. I would really like something with panniers, quick shifter, better fuel range, same power, cruise control etc etc
@markhingst5368 z1000sx h2sxse gsxs gt .not much out there. No top boxes.
K1600 gt/gtl
Ride for the slide
lost all credability once I saw he was in shorts
Don't be shy, you can lick ya lips as much as ya want. Just let me know the toyal by the end of the month and I'll send out The invoice 😎🇦🇺🏋️💪
So ,et me get this strait, you putting gloves on, jacket on and some boots, right, with short shorts! Really and we are supposed to take your advice and opinion as sound thinking. I don’t think so.
🤣🤣🤣 You think a hard kunt like me cares about commuting? I go faster on my MTB in Lycra. When you come off a DH run at 80-100kph in nothing but spandex knicks, pick ya 💩 up laugh, true your rim on the side of hill and ride on for another 45km, come talk to me. Had more stacks at speed than you've had roots. Cute. You actually think 60kph round town is a thing? Can't even remember last stack that was under that kiddie speed. I think you need a bus ticket Lil fella, life's a bit above your pay grade. 🤣🤣🤣
It's all in the name btw, think about it. Bike vs rpg?🤷😜🤣🤣🤣 I've done 5,854 things tougher than commute a bike to a gym.
Dude, are you wearing shorts?!
Short shorts 💯🤣🤣 should see the big rig in wing mode.