WONDERFUL 𝜋ntegral! A Putnam Extravaganza [ Basel Problem Integral Representation ]
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Today we are going to derive a crazy popazy integral representation for pi^2/6, namely the integral from 0 to infinity of x/(e^x-1). We are going to see, that it evaluates to zeta of 2 times the gamma function, it's going to be amazing! Just wait for the generalization, it's going to be gucci as hell! Enjoy :3
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The cheap physicist way of doing it: recognize it as the integral representation of the Bose-Einstein function g_s(z) with s = 2 and z = 1 (times an irrelevant Gamma(2), which is one). As is clear from the series definition of the functions, g_s(1) = Zeta(s). Hence the integral is Zeta(2)!
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I'm guessing the answer is π^2/6 (I haven't watched it yet), blame Dr.Peyam for that :D (he made a video of an integral very similar to this one but the x term is raised to the power of s, where s is a complex number, it's great
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Hey, I saw this same integral on Let's Solve Math problems. It was done almost the same exact way. Papa Flammy is doing so many integral videos I'm starting to see repeats from other integral solving RUclipsrs.
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2:21, actually, this can be converted to a geometric series starts at k=1(which is, the sum of z^k, from k=1 to infinity). Since the formula for that is z / (1-z). Then, the summation can be moved outside of the integral. This gives us the integral of x*e^(-k*x) from 0 to infinity. As you can probably notice, this is the Laplace transform of x. So, the integral can be replaced with 1 / k^2. Now, this gives us the sum of 1 / k^2 from k=1 to infinity. Which it just pi^2/6.
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It was just incredible, i hate it when i see a solution that i could figure out myself (but quitted trying too soon).
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Did a change of variables after the geometric series trick, ended up with the Besel sum times an integral that went to 1 nicely, despite the fact that it involved zero times infinity.
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this thing is everywhere in stat mech .
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Papa there is a simpler solution by making the substitution e^x=u. After simplifying the integral that we obtain we find that it equals intergal from 0 to 1 of ln u/u-1. This is equal to intergal from 0 to 1 of ln(1-u)/(-u).
Expanding ln(1-u) by its Taylor series we easily get Zeta2 as the answer.
I too did it this way. Don't know why very few did this way.
Boi what are you adding in that big sigma.
I have so much homework... so, one video of integrals arent be bad.
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Thanks. Nicely Explained.
Me, watching this without even finishing limits:
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integral of x/(e^x+1) from 0 to infinity = pi^2/12 coool
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Integral from 0 to infinity of
(sinx)^2/(1+x^2)
it evaluates to 177013
Nice video as usual, i was thinking of another factorisation : x/e^x * 1/(1-e^-x) then using taylor series, you get the same result
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I enjoyed this integration as much as enjoy my favorite movie.
Isn't the integral from 0 to infinity of (x*e^(-kx)dx) the laplace transform of x? Wouldn't that be an option? (It's 1/(k^2) too soooooo)
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This can be a quick infinity boi, any integral of this form with x^(s-1) on top is Gamma(s)Zeta(s). xD
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This video helped me solve the same integeral but with x^2, gonna start doing more integrals i think, getting kinda rusty during the holidays >.< Also need to learn some of the rules like interchanging summation & integration more uhm.. yuck.. "rigorously"
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The captions at 10:15.
It would have been a lot easier if you had set the integral from 5:54 to be equal to the derivative with respect to k of the integral of e^-kx, using Leibniz's rule, and then solve the integral (which is 1/k) and take the derivative and ends up with the Basel Summation.
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5:32
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Yup k and x are independent
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That's actually the Bose Integral at n=2.
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6:26 I'd've used papa feynman, but okay
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could you use complex analysis?
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Why didn't you just taylor expand e^x, cancel the two 1's then cancel the x's on the top and bottom, and just take the a.derrivative of a power
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Did you check the interval of convergence for the geometric series? ;)
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Why dont you solve this using complex integration? instead of using x use z^2 (yes squared, else you wil get a zero) and chose a rectangular contour with hight 2*pi*i
so the function for the contour should be z^2/(e^z-1)
this technique will also work for every odd power of x i think :)
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do you know how to solve that equation algebratically: (4x+2)^(1/x) = 2. thanks for that ;) great stuff anyway
2^x=4x+2
k = -x - 1/2
2^(-k - 1/2) = -4k
2^(-k) = -4k*2^(1/2)
2^k = -1/(k*2^5/2)
k*2^k = -2^(-5/2)
k = W(-2^(-5/2)ln(2))/ln(2)
x = -W(-2^(-5/2)ln(2))/ln(2) - 1/2
No solutions in elementary functions as far as I know. The Lambert's W-function gives us two solutions here.
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Great video. I'm disappointed you don't take the steps to prove 1) the integral actually converge 2) you may express 1/1-exp(-x) as a serie and 3) you may exchange sum and integral signs. I guess it'd be boring and make a video too long, though. Anyway, I gave it a try myself and here's my approach (it's long), I give another more direct approach at the end.
I = int (0, inf) x/exp(x)-1 dx
f(x) = x/exp(x)-1
fonction f is continuous over ]0, inf[ => can be integrated over it
I isn't improper at x=0 because
lim 1/f(x) = lim exp(x)-1/x = lim exp(x)-exp(x0)/x-0 = exp(0) = 1
=> f is continuous at 0 with f(0)=1
I is improper at x->inf
x > 1 => f'(x) < 0 => f is strictly decreasing over [1, +inf[
x > 1 => f(x) > 0
let g(x) = 1/x2
lim (x->inf) f(x)/g(x) = lim x3/exp(x)-1 = 0
=> f(x) = o(g(x))
f and g are of same sign (positif) for x > 1, g is riemann-integrable over [1, +inf[ with a convergent integral (Riemann)
=> a domination criterion is therefore met => I converges
Calculation:
I = int(0, inf) x.exp(-x)/1-exp(-x) dx
we write 1/1-exp(-x) as a serie
which is the geometric serie with ratio exp(-x) that converges for any x > 0 (the case x=0 is pesky)
1/1-exp(-x) = sum(k=0, inf) exp(-kx)
I = int(0, inf) x.exp(-x).sum(k=0, inf) exp(-kx) dx
we put back the term exp(-x) into the serie and we rescale the index
I = int(0, inf) x.sum(k=0, inf) exp(-(k+1)x) dx
= int(0, inf) x. sum(j=1, inf) exp(-jx) dx
we put back the term x into the serie as well (the serie is still convergent as exp(-kx) is always negligible before x
I = int(0, inf) sum(j=1, inf) x.exp(-jx) dx
We then prove the serie to be uniformly convergent before applying the serie-integral inversion theorem
The serie sum(j=1, inf) x exp(-jx) converges uniformly toward f
because
norme_sup (fn(x) - f(x)) = sup(abs(x.exp(-jx) - x/exp(x)-1)
= sup(abs(x.exp(-jx)(exp(x)-1) - x // exp(x)-1)
= sup(abs(x(exp(-jx)(exp(x)-1) - 1) // exp(x)-1) = 0
Let's exchange sum and integral signs
I = sum(j=1, inf) int(0, inf) x.exp(-jx) dx
let u=jx, x = u/j et dx = du/j, bounds don't change
I = sum(j=1, inf) int(0, inf) u/j.exp(-u) du/j
= sum(j=1, inf) 1/j2 int(0, inf) u.exp(-u) du
we see int(0, inf) u.exp(-u) du = G(2) = 1! = 1 (Euler's Gamma function and factorial as you pointed)
I = sum(j=1, inf) 1/j2 = z(2) = pi2/6 (Riemann's / Basel Problem as you also pointed)
Another way
let
zeta(x, q) = sum(k=0, inf) (k + q)^-x for q natural integer and x real
we prove that zeta(x, q)G(x) = int(0, inf) t^(x-1)exp(-tq)/1-exp(-t) dt
immediately, it comes that I = zeta(2)G(2) with q=1 et x=2
Can u evaluate thia integral but instead of the x in the numerator can u have x^2, I want to see what a general result would be....
Alreafy done! Check the integrals Playlist :)
Is it the zeta gamma extravaganza
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Can't you just use some complex analysis?
i cant understand complex calculus
Hot. How about other values of zeta function times gamma function?
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Bose Einstein integral for s=2.....!
x= 2
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