I have a theory that the swords actually have a mind of their own, whenever we talk about a sword it has a special color, and i believe that after we actually beat griefer in the treehouse he decides to give up as he knows he cant beat us, therefore he tries to get rid of the venomshank and stop trying, but the venomshank refuses to leave and instead corrupts the mind of griefer and making him stab himself with it doing anything to survive, we see that one of bubonic plants dialogue is "H3LP ME.." and i believe this is actually griefer gaining a bit of control and asking for help. Theory 2: the swords are unable to leave the wielder of it, the swords can only be passed when the wielder of it dies or when the wielder gives it to someone else, this explains why the venomshank made brad stab himself with it as he knew that he would eventually die to us, when the wielder dies the swords drop ready to be wielded by another person.
I heard that Hatred manifests in every sword we take, as he says he is everyone(meaning he were the voices that corrupted Greifer and CK) meaning that the swords are actually a manifestation of hatred and the voices say "if u take this sword by knocking ur father out u will get da monies" that means that greifer...is hatred???
My theory is that when a wielder that is other than the guardian comes in contact with the swords, they will be transported into the Dream World and have to fight their own hatred and if they fail, they get corrupted by it(as such by the voices). This is evidenced when the player touched the ghostwalker. Also, if someone steals the sword from the previous wielder(again not the guardian), they do not need to fight the dream world emotions, like how the player only fights the dream world when he is the first wielder of the ghostwalker and not when they obtain the sword from Griefer(first wielder of VS) or Cruel King(first wielder of ID) Also just to clarify, the previous wielder of the ID which cruel king stole from is actually the guardian of it Also also, my assumption is that griefer touched the VS in the tree in his crib
did yall notice bubonic plant chest and arms looks like 1x1x1x1, plus griefer eyes, the dad of griefer said it can be turned back, but i believe since his toxity alr manifested it might be some humanoid boss in a future maybe chapter 6 idk
If u go to mayor monty after completing chapter three he's gonna tell u that mayor thaniyel was a boxing champion back when he was younger so maybe ur right
-Gripper- Griefer: Y0U'V3 H4D Y0UR CH4NC3, AND Y0U'V3 W4STED TH4- Mayor Thaniyel: _What chance? To bash your skull like a coconut shell with my bare hands?_ Griefer: ... WH4T.
guys i think when he said he will look for the venomshank that meant it wasnt in his room before and when he says "N0W TH4T HE H4S G1VEN IT T0 ME..." implies that someone or something got the venomshank in his room
Yeah but we aren't the only ones with the 4 emotions? Also i don't think everyone needs a dream world specifically for the emotions as hatred is some sort of parasite that changes others behavior
@Mosylla theres literally no evidence of the others having their own dream world and yet still they hear "the voices" which implys that hatred is everywhere (Please don't tell me we are starting an argument over emotions)
also the dialogue after defeating bubonic plant implies that brad's state can be reversed, but you cant visit mayor thaniyel even in chapter 3, hope we get to visit him in the next chapter
I think it should be something you can do during chapter 4 where you go to the Turitopolis hospital (I don’t actually think there is one lol) and you need to somehow get into Griefer’s mind while he is paralysed to then kill the negative emotions in his brain (I think it’ll be Regret, Disappointment, Wrath, and Hatred)
Since the swords corrupt their wielders, but the player just seems immune, could the player be the guardian of every sword? If not, the player might fight their inner corruptions in the next few chapters
Cruel king isn’t really corrupted, he just has schizophrenia, but Griefer was fully corrupted AND he has severe schizophrenia, so the player isn’t really “immune” but is able to control themselves, but when the player gets 2 swords then theres the dream world part in chapter 3 with those emotions which is where the effects start to get in on the player, but the player defeats the emotions and their soul is purified now, so they’ll never get any side effects from the swords after this.
it has to 🐝 hatred, everyone has their own hatred and with the amount of hatred Griefer pretty much has for us (since we maul him), those might’ve been the voices
yall i have a theory. so when greifer says “he”, (in the second ti last dialogue before battle) its red, matchibg hatreds color. al though emotions go by it/its or they/theirs, this maybe refrencing hatred is male, however hatreds guru dialogue proves this wrong.
That is hatred when griefer says [TH4T V01CE SW1RL1ING IN MY M1ND] and the "Voice" is dark red and so does hatred have the dark red colour when your in dialogue with it , This guy below me is also right .. thats why griefers dialogue is green when u defeated his phase 1 [ non-venomshank] phase 2 [ Venomshank] phase 3 [Transformation]
It is hatred actually not just because of the color, it appears every time someone has an SFOTH sword like Cruel King refers to it, Shedletsky does, and so does Griefer but we’re the only people (other than theorized Shedletsky) to actually SEE hatred.
“we will release call : griefer card in demo 4” me: oh hell no that kid is the reason why builderman was kidnapped and shedlestsky was in a wheelchair💀😭
I like to think when griefers text turns green, it's showing how the toxicity of the venomshank is corrupting his mind more.
I have a theory that the swords actually have a mind of their own, whenever we talk about a sword it has a special color, and i believe that after we actually beat griefer in the treehouse he decides to give up as he knows he cant beat us, therefore he tries to get rid of the venomshank and stop trying, but the venomshank refuses to leave and instead corrupts the mind of griefer and making him stab himself with it doing anything to survive, we see that one of bubonic plants dialogue is "H3LP ME.." and i believe this is actually griefer gaining a bit of control and asking for help.
Theory 2: the swords are unable to leave the wielder of it, the swords can only be passed when the wielder of it dies or when the wielder gives it to someone else, this explains why the venomshank made brad stab himself with it as he knew that he would eventually die to us, when the wielder dies the swords drop ready to be wielded by another person.
that would possibly explain the last half of chapter 3 (the dream world)
I heard that Hatred manifests in every sword we take, as he says he is everyone(meaning he were the voices that corrupted Greifer and CK) meaning that the swords are actually a manifestation of hatred and the voices say "if u take this sword by knocking ur father out u will get da monies" that means that greifer...is hatred???
I have no idea where I was going
My theory is that when a wielder that is other than the guardian comes in contact with the swords, they will be transported into the Dream World and have to fight their own hatred and if they fail, they get corrupted by it(as such by the voices). This is evidenced when the player touched the ghostwalker. Also, if someone steals the sword from the previous wielder(again not the guardian), they do not need to fight the dream world emotions, like how the player only fights the dream world when he is the first wielder of the ghostwalker and not when they obtain the sword from Griefer(first wielder of VS) or Cruel King(first wielder of ID)
Also just to clarify, the previous wielder of the ID which cruel king stole from is actually the guardian of it
Also also, my assumption is that griefer touched the VS in the tree in his crib
did yall notice bubonic plant chest and arms looks like 1x1x1x1, plus griefer eyes, the dad of griefer said it can be turned back, but i believe since his toxity alr manifested it might be some humanoid boss in a future maybe chapter 6 idk
2:05 with “us” he means himself, and the voices
Like you said, it's his son
So he's not fighting
So what if the mayor was secretly stupidly fucking strong
If u go to mayor monty after completing chapter three he's gonna tell u that mayor thaniyel was a boxing champion back when he was younger so maybe ur right
@h4lfch3ck46 fr?
-Gripper- Griefer: Y0U'V3 H4D Y0UR CH4NC3, AND Y0U'V3 W4STED TH4-
Mayor Thaniyel: _What chance? To bash your skull like a coconut shell with my bare hands?_
Griefer: ... WH4T.
guys i think when he said he will look for the venomshank that meant it wasnt in his room before and when he says "N0W TH4T HE H4S G1VEN IT T0 ME..." implies that someone or something got the venomshank in his room
"Whatever pays the rent" ahh upload
At least I don’t evade my taxes !
@@Realtroyboy675 at least i evade my taxes!!
@@samuelthio9095 yo same
"Oh shoot, bills by tomorrow"
4:59
F in the chat for mayor thanyiel
my friend once said "griefer is so fatass that he threw his dad" also F :D
Here’s some Morse code if you want to decode it:
-. - - - - - . . - . - . - . . - . - . - - - - - - . - . .
You forgot the "/" sir. It should be
-.-- --- ..- / .- .-. . / -.-. --- --- .-..
@@Jellotinesoops mb
@@Jellotines what does it mean?
NTTTTTEETETETEETETETTTTTTETEE
YOU ARE COOL
@Fiberoeatingfiber it says "YOU ARE COOL" in morse code
1:02 why do I have a feeling ‘he’ could be hatred
Thats because it is
The dark red text gives it away
@Silly_Whitepikmin That would imply griefer had a dream world materialized in him, which wouldn’t make sense
Yeah but we aren't the only ones with the 4 emotions? Also i don't think everyone needs a dream world specifically for the emotions as hatred is some sort of parasite that changes others behavior
@Silly_Whitepikmin Ok, so where’s your evidence of emotions being sentient without a dream world?
@Mosylla theres literally no evidence of the others having their own dream world and yet still they hear "the voices" which implys that hatred is everywhere
(Please don't tell me we are starting an argument over emotions)
also the dialogue after defeating bubonic plant implies that brad's state can be reversed, but you cant visit mayor thaniyel even in chapter 3, hope we get to visit him in the next chapter
Iirc a Call: Griefer card is planned for either chap 4 or 5.
@@CCMari i think it's chapter 4, i think it was confirmed
I think it should be something you can do during chapter 4 where you go to the Turitopolis hospital (I don’t actually think there is one lol) and you need to somehow get into Griefer’s mind while he is paralysed to then kill the negative emotions in his brain (I think it’ll be Regret, Disappointment, Wrath, and Hatred)
Since the swords corrupt their wielders, but the player just seems immune, could the player be the guardian of every sword? If not, the player might fight their inner corruptions in the next few chapters
Cruel king isn’t really corrupted, he just has schizophrenia, but Griefer was fully corrupted AND he has severe schizophrenia, so the player isn’t really “immune” but is able to control themselves, but when the player gets 2 swords then theres the dream world part in chapter 3 with those emotions which is where the effects start to get in on the player, but the player defeats the emotions and their soul is purified now, so they’ll never get any side effects from the swords after this.
What if "he" is.... Hear me out, doom bringer???? It's a bright red, matches the color of doom bringer, and doom bringer is pretty classic ?
"hatred"
it has to 🐝 hatred, everyone has their own hatred and with the amount of hatred Griefer pretty much has for us (since we maul him), those might’ve been the voices
its not hatred, all emotions go by it/it’s.
yall i have a theory.
so when greifer says “he”, (in the second ti last dialogue before battle) its red, matchibg hatreds color. al though emotions go by it/its or they/theirs, this maybe refrencing hatred is male, however hatreds guru dialogue proves this wrong.
I was trying brush my teeth but i was laughing so hard I almost spit out the toothpaste XDDDD
2:04 "Us" means him (grieferer) and the main villian
4:49 🧢 we beated him
4:55 BRO BREAKS THE REQUIREMENTS BY PULLING HIS OLD DAD WHO STUCK TO VENOM AND THEN HE THREW HIS DAD BRO IS A VILLAIN
That is hatred when griefer says [TH4T V01CE SW1RL1ING IN MY M1ND] and the "Voice" is dark red and so does hatred have the dark red colour when your in dialogue with it , This guy below me is also right .. thats why griefers dialogue is green when u defeated his phase 1 [ non-venomshank]
phase 2 [ Venomshank] phase 3 [Transformation]
It is hatred actually not just because of the color, it appears every time someone has an SFOTH sword like Cruel King refers to it, Shedletsky does, and so does Griefer but we’re the only people (other than theorized Shedletsky) to actually SEE hatred.
I think the color is different from hatred’s pronoun color
@Grahams-x2n if you match it up, it's slightly darker by like one color value. (hatred's ACTUAL color) but its basically the same
When shedletsky says builder man has been kidnapped. Kidnapped is in red
@ hatred’s colo when builder,an is orange
i just thought griefer fell in love with the player
OK WHAT?
@dollthesilly yes
@dollthesilly its true ending /j
What the hell
“the mercenaries + boss” red and blue noobs and noobador, of course
Yeah
The voices actually hatred breh
whats the game in the outro?
Criminality
“we will release call : griefer card in demo 4”
me: oh hell no that kid is the reason why builderman was kidnapped and shedlestsky was in a wheelchair💀😭
builderman might've been kidnapped by another guy, alot of people have this specific voice that told them to do bad stuff at this one time.
🤓 “erm no its actually hatred’s fault because hatred took over griefer” 🤓
1:06 isn't the same thing...?
Real.
this whole video is just captain obvious analyzing griefer's dialogue
@@haydenshum I don’t think that you have watched an over analyzing video before 🙏
1:03 he=hatred
btw what is the game name in 7:01
Criminalitiy
Can't be hatred if hatred is something Inside the player's mind.
"I AM THE SCOURGE OF EVERYONE"-HATRED,2024
morse code: NTTTTTEETETETEETETETTTTTTETEE
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lol