Watch this before you buy Anker or Ecoflow - UGREEN PowerRoam 2200 is the new king
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- UGREEN has managed to leapfrog the 2kwh power station competition with their new PowerRoam 2200 by adding the most powerful USB-C ports, 300w DC output, expansion batteries up to 12kwh, removable wheels, and more. Here's my in-depth review of the new kid on the block. Thanks to @Jasonoid and @johnnysweekends for helping me during testing.
Disclaimer: I was provided a review unit from UGREEN but all opinions are my own.
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Ugreen PowerRoam 2200 (Amazon)
bit.ly/46HD2nr ($400 Coupon OFF)
Ugreen PowerRoam 2200 (Website)
bit.ly/472NS7w ($400 Coupon OFF)
Ugreen PowerRoam 1200 with 200W Solar Panel
bit.ly/3QsaUPx ($450 OFF)
Ugreen 200W Solar Panel:
amzn.to/495Joi3
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Top 5 features
3:48 Design
5:30 USB output
6:42 DC output
8:19 AC output
9:24 Wall charging
10:16 Car charging
10:27 Solar charging
14:21 Pros
15:01 Cons 
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The competition is TOUGH for the top 2000wh device right now! Glad to see UGREEN matching or even exceeding the other big brands in performance. Thanks for the excellent video Todd :) I'm just finishing up testing my unit right now.
dude i'm waiting for your review , i really hope you post it before black friday so i know which one to get for my micro camper van 🙏
@@ameenwahal the Ugreen video goes lives on Black Friday morning 🤣😂 at least the sales will be active still, right?!
@@Jasonoid 💯
Got to say I’m really enjoying your videos. Keep up great work
I appreciate that!
First time I have listened to you. Very good job. Thanks. I Almost pulled trigger this week on Ecoflow Delta 2 max but dc output was weak. This solves that …plus cart . A real winner it seems. Hope their accessory batteries allow some stand alone usage. That would be a real home run.
Glad I could help
Very helpful review
Thanks, glad you liked it
I am excited to see this large mobile power station space heating up, driving innovation up and costs down. The negatives should be highlighted in my opinion. Some of them are: 1) Lack of high speed wireless phone charging on the top flat surface; 2) Lack bidirectional USB-C 100W (i like the other output USB-c ports however); 3) very low DC solar voltage input limit. I would like to see 3x the 60Vdc limit for up to two inputs. This greatly reduces wire copper size and panel selection without stranded power, and allows for ~10% improvement in charge efficiency if using a large DC generator; 4) Many situations require charge limiting, so having selectable charge rate (and time) as well as discharge rate (and time) per port would be nice to see; 5) not allowing simultaneous DC with AC charging while discharging and being able to configure the rate limits is a deal killer to me at this size and cost. 6) I would like to see a 45A dc input port (vs the two 15A, even if it had a lower voltage limit than the other port, but ideally both should be >160Vdc.
I am starting to wonder where the dividing line will be between the expensive elegant all in one power stations (like this but likely larger) vs semi-portable modular units using 48Vdc LiFePO4 server rack batteries, charge controllers and inverters, where you can get about 2x to 3x the capacity per dollar, but at a price in terms of size/shape elegance. My guess is somewhere around $5k to $8k the value shifts to modular, but only time will tell.
I was looking for their xt60. Adapter series connector as a stand alone but can’t find it. Do you have a link for it?
Hi. Can you please tell me if this charging station can work with the coolers off up to a certain load if yes up to how many watts? Or do the coolers work and can be heard even if the load is 200W?
Great review. Thanks. Could you do a video on how to hook it up to an RV?
I don’t have an RV unfortunately but you’d essentially connect an Anderson cable to the 300w DC output and run the other end into your DC fuse box.
Hey Todd, great review but I’m confused, maybe you can explain. I’m looking to use this unit in my van build and as a home backup. I plan on roof mounted 2x100 watt panels connected in parallel.My question and confusion comes from your video around the 11:20 mark when you connect up the MC4 and XT60 . Can I connect my solar parallel MC4 connector to a MC4 to XT60 adapter and then to solar input on 2200? Any clarification is appreciated. Steve
Yes, you can connect any panels to this with a MC4 to XT60 adapter as long as you don't exceed the max voltage. I was just saying that you'd need to buy an adapter like the one Ecoflow sells rather than using the adapter they provide with their panels.
Love the video Todd. Trying to follow the link - seems UGREEN has not released the item on any platform yet. Do you have any updates on when it will be available?
I just checked all the links in the description and they all work so it's available on Amazon and their site...
Ugreen PowerRoam 2200 (Amazon)
bit.ly/46HD2nr ($400 Coupon OFF)
Ugreen PowerRoam 2200 (Website)
bit.ly/472NS7w ($400 Coupon OFF)
Ugreen PowerRoam 1200 with 200W Solar Panel
bit.ly/3QsaUPx ($450 OFF)
Ugreen 200W Solar Panel:
amzn.to/495Joi3
I am in Canada and that might be the reason why. For both of the links on Amazon, I got currently unavailable and on their home site I can’t find the item in their product list at all.
Update: I wrote UGREEN Canada. Alas, they have no plans to sell the Uroam 2200 in Canada in the near future
Todd, thank you for this review..Can the beep sound be disabled through the app? I noticed when buttons are pressed there is a confirmational beep sound from the unit every time.
Yes, there's an "Audio tones" setting in the app
@@todd.parker Todd, thank you for your fabulous and quick reply to my question! Looks like a great unit with a lot of extremely useful features, especially the Anderson Power Port on the front.
Excellent Review Todd. Do the UG2200's expansion battery have a port allowing any Solar panels to be connected. If Yes... whats panel's Volts range and amp range
Unfortunately I didn’t have a battery to test so I’m not sure of the specs. Keep an eye on their site for updates
@@todd.parkerThank you Todd. I Crazy Excited hopefully to see your upComing video review of the Expansion Battery.
UGreen should be excited to note your Impressions as well
Great video as always Todd! I’m curious how much energy is lost through the AC conversion. Would love to see an experiment that tests that.
Do you mean when charging it or powering AC appliances? I test the latter - it's the AC capacity test at .2C in the video.
Sorry, I didn’t explain that well at all! I’m curious if you had two identical loads on the device but one is DC and one is AC, how much battery drain would we see for each for, say, half an hour.
I have to assume that converting to AC comes with a certain power loss and that we would see more drain on the battery even though the two devices take the same draw.
Ultimately I’m interested to know if it makes sense to try and have most of your devices run on DC (assuming no other conversions necessary in the device itself).
Hope that made sense! 😅
Hmmmm, it seams the add on batteries are not available yet?
Not yet but should be soon
None of the Chinese made high frequency, transformerless solar generators on today's market including the Ugreen last very long when powering high inductance loads like full sized refrigerators, large power tools Portable AC units or large microwave ovens. The reason for this is that they are of a high frequency, transformerless design and the cheap Chinese manufactured MOSFETs and capacitors used in these units cannot take repeated exposures to high surge loads. Without an iron core, copper wound transformer to absorb the back EMF and high surge demands of these high inductance loads, typically after q couple of year's worth of use, these expensive solar generators can become a non-repairable brick.
You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when this solar generator is new but every time you fire up or shut down that inductive load, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in your solar generator. They also run much hotter than low frequency, transformer based inverters which makes the low cost, off spec, Chinese made components such as capacitors, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in these cheap solar generators, far more prone to early failure.
This is especially true regarding the amount of electro-mechanical wear on solar generator’s low cost capacitors. Inverters rely heavily on capacitors to provide a smooth power output at varying levels of current; however the electrolytic capacitors that are used in these solar generators have a limited lifespan and age much faster than dry components. Capacitors are also extremely sensitive to the high temperatures found in these solar generators. Capacitor electrolytes evaporate faster at higher temperatures which can reduce the life of these components.
Another major consideration with these high frequency, transformer free solar generators is safety. All it takes is for one of their MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground or the wave form control circuitry to fail, and these units will send dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire.
Another consideration is that the vast majority of these solar generators are non-repairable. After the warranty runs out, most consumers will not be able to afford to ship these units back to the manufacturer in China to have them repaired. And at a typical shop rate of $125 per hour, here in the US, with no schematic and limited parts availability, it won't make economic sense to even attempt to repair one of these units. Once the FETs have fried and have taken the inverter's PCB with it, (And trust me, sooner rather than later, they will fry.) they basically become a brick.
And finally and third consideration is the fact that many of the solar generators on the market utilize the same Chinese made, 18650 cells that are used in those notorious "flame throwing" hover boards. So there exists the ever present danger that these so called "solar generators", will self combust when you least expect it.
A far better alternative is to invest less money and purchase a hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter charger and a LFP battery. Your system will last far, far longer, it will run much cooler and can easily power high surge loads without being damaged and without damaging your appliances. I know this to be true because I've spent the last 23 years repairing inverters. High frequency solar generators simply don't last when powering high inductance loads and can set your appliances, van, EV and even your home on fire.
Thanks for the info. What brand of inverters do you think is most reliable?
Any low frequency, transformer based inverter from manufacturers or distributors like, Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Victron Energy, Sigineer, Aims or Sungold Power would be a good choice for a safe, effective system. @@todd.parker
Following this comment for updates on suggestions
Well, I would agree with some of the points. Repairability is a big problem for power stations, for sure. Expandability is also a big problem... power stations with expansion options are often extremely over-priced verses discrete solutions. The UPS modes is really bad in almost all power stations. Some can get into the 8-10mS switch-over time regime but most are like this one... 20mS plus.
And not a single power stations has a UPS mode that works with DC loads. DC loads drain the battery and cause excessive recharge-cycling (often every 10 minutes) which puts extra wear on the batteries. We need a power stations that is able to keep the batteries in float and provide loads-support from the AC input side when it is available. Not a single power station will do that.
That said, I disagree with regards to a number of points.
Most power stations these days are LiFePO4 based. It is true that the original crop of generally poorly-made power station used NMC or other chemistries, but they've all pretty much gotten the memo and nearly all modern power stations are now LiFePO4.
Similarly, the HF (transformerless) inverters have gotten a lot better. There is nothing inherently advantageous about the LF inverter that you find in most inverter-chargers. Its just that most of the HF inverters in older power stations were just really poorly made and did not have energy recovery circuits to help with inductive loads. The HF inverters in these beefier, newer power stations are usually pretty good and have no trouble whatsoever with inductive loads, plus they generate less heat, have lower internal losses, and are much lighter.
Don't compare a high output low freuqency inverter-charger against a power station. Compare it against something like a Sol-Ark 12K whos trasnformerless inverter is over 96% efficient and can handle huge inductive loads without breaking a sweat. They don't even blink at 4-ton A/C units.
But I have other beefs with power stations. The inverters in power stations have fairly poor efficiencies... usually 75% to 80% and not much higher than that. The solar MPPT inputs are also fairly poor, usually only 85% to 90% (compared to a Victron charge controller which is 97% efficient). The solar-to-output end-to-end efficiency when connected to AC is usually very poor, typically only 70%. The list goes on.
Beyond a certain size, power stations just don't make sense. They become expensive, unrepairable, non-expandable (or excessively expensive partial expandability)... basically paperweights. Once you outgrow a power station it winds up on a shelf somewhere. Discrete solutions are far more cost effective for big systems.
I don't see much of a point having beefy outputs if the power station can only run those loads for a few hours before completely depleting their batteries. If the charging-to-end-consumer efficiency were better they would be more useful, but it isn't. IMHO. Nobody is gonna be running a heater from a power station unless they have a ton of solar to recharge the thing to full the next day. And even then it doesn't hold a candle to a discrete solution that might pack 10kWh worth of LiFePO4 batteries into an RV or Boat, or 60kWh worth of batteries for an off-grid home.
I have 2 of the smaller units (GS 1200) the hardware is really good but it is let down by the bug laden app, which is slow to respond , gives constant over voltage and USB power error warnings, and keeps turning U-turbo on for no reason.
Good to know and something that you won't see on reviews.
I didn’t run into those issues and I used this pretty hard but that’s a bummer. Let’s hope they’ve improved
So it is your new favorite in the 2000 raabge??
I really think so. It matches the Ecoflow and Anker but goes above and beyond in a lot of ways like USB, expansion, DC output, etc. no big downsides either. I’m impressed
I’m pretty sure the SOLIX F2000 also has a
Dang it, you're right. I checked their specs earlier and it wasn't listed but I just checked my review notes and there is a UPS feature. I'll note that in a pinned comment. Thanks.
1. I miss the possibility to monitor the online and offline history as in all Portable Power Stations
2. The connection cables for the additional battery look terrible, they take up a lot of space like most competitors, but some competitors have finally started using 90 degree connectors
3. I really like the trolley which is better when there is no option of wheels from the manufacturer or the wheels and handle are fixed in the unit,
simple: when needed - used, when not needed - put away
4. I like that the solar charging cables are included in the Portable Power package, which is obvious, but that someone doesn't put it in the package = horrible
5. I would really like it if it were possible to connect two identical or even different UGREEN devices that could handle double or more AC load, where the second device would only turn on the DC/AC inverter when needed, otherwise it would be off and only its battery would be used
7. I would very much like to be able to connect to a Home Assistant system, where the environment for the solar monitoring system is already pre-prepared, and where the UGREEN device could be used for home automation
8. I would hope that the additional batteries should be able to be charged separately like the main unit from AC and solar inputs and the additional batteries should have DC outputs like the main unit
Will there be a 240V version for Europe?
Thanks for sharing
I might be getting out my 💳 out this friday ( BLACK FRIDAY)
Good Morning Mr. Parker im a small RUclipsr from Germany and just doing a German Video about the yougreen Powerstation. Is it okay if I drop your Video and RUclips Channel Link in my Video Description? Love your Video Quality!
Sure thing, thanks for the link
@@todd.parker awesome! Thanks man! Again a big compliment for the work you invest and the Passion explaining things 😃💪
A 20ms transfer time is not sufficient for computers per the ATX specification which requires that PSUs hold up power for at least 17ms. @Jasonoid has tested many 20ms units and many of them cause his computer to reboot every fifth try or so. I'd love to see a unit with 10ms transfer time which is closer to what a standard offline UPS can do.
I'm not a fan of UGREEN as they have previously overstated their safety listings on Amazon. However, this unit has an ETL safety mark printed right on it so it is likely the real deal. Ensuring that the solar charge splitter doesn't have voltage on the uncovered ports is a very good sign.
Not supporting simultaneous AC and solar charging is a bit of a bummer. That's a common feature of many other brands.
Having four USB-C ports and one that is PD 3.1 is amazing. More brands need to do this. Bluetti and Anker need to take notes!
I agree that 15ms would be ideal - Jasonoid does the best UPS testing and will be even better in his next video. I have to say I came away very impressed with UGREEN’s system. For a first attempt, they really crushed it
I drive a truck so i can hook it up to 12 watt charging in two days and its %100 and FREE 😁👍
EVERY and i mean it, EVERY powerstation out there, has really really bad MPPT solar chargers. Anker/Ugreen has the worst and by this i mean they have limited the input voltage to just 1 panel if you need to specific charge those only from solar.
The only way is from the Ecoflow Delta Pro that has almost good MPPT that accepts 150V and 15A input limitation. That means you can use 3 big solar panels and actually charge with 1.5-1.6kW from Solar.
I dare EVERYONE of the reviewers, those powerstation ISN'T for powering your cabin or your small house, except the Delta Pro's.
After this budget, you can go to Delta Pro Ultra but there the cost will doubled.
I agree that the trend towards 60v limits on solar inputs is a terrible direction, super limiting. Been having fun with the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra because it has awesome solar input for high voltage arrays.
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