Only thing holding back Ultraviolette is CCS2 port. Even a Ev fan like myself who has been enjoying my Nexon Ev since 3 years and plan to never go ICE ever again, I wanted to buy UV from the day it was launched but only if it had CCS2. I like going on long rides and charging with 15A socket for 3 - 4 hours is not reasonable.
What india needs is s robust supercharger network and reliable availability of electricity. We had to recharge the UV on our shoot in the hills using a diesel generator from a roadside cafe as power broke down in the entire area!
9:35 oh really petrol /Diesel vehicles can run without any technology? Then what about Fuel Injectors , ECU's , Fuses , Led , Wiring Harness , Horn , 12 Volts battery , Starter Motor's ?
What a matching comparison! 2 made in India bikes in the similar segment, put against each other so we can see how they differ. However there are some things we need to consider which most ICE heads forget about. 1.) Ease and comfort: EV's have no gears or clutch, if we ride both these bikes through a place like Old Delhi for an hr, how much sweat and effort each of the riders has to go through traversing start stop conditions. 2.) Manufacturing complexity: It is a lot simpler and less energy consuming to make an electric vehicle as compared to an Ice vehicle which has a lot more moving precision parts. 3.) Infrastructure: ICE is popular as the infrastructure to refine and transport fuel has already been set up over so many years. As a one on one comparison it is easier to transport electricity vs fuel. 4.) Pollution: An ICE engine causes local pollution, it emits harmful compounds such as Benzene and other hydrocarbons right next to our nostrils. This is a leading cause of respiratory diseases such as COPD and Asthma. Air pollution is one of the largest killers in our times. Yes Coal plants pollute but almost all are out of the city, The cost of a solar unit in India is less than that of coal, Going Nuclear building small local power plants is also a solution which the Government is now implementing. 5.) Fuel extraction: We never take into account the pollution caused by oil spills, oil extraction and used engine oil which causes environmental damage. Extracting oil from under the ground is a dirty industry. 6.) Availability: Fossil fuels are a limited source of energy, the amount is finite. Now one would argue, Hydrogen, fuel cells, clean and easily available. Hydrogen is generated by electricity and a fuel cell vehicle is also an electric vehicle under its cover. 7.) Cost of Manufacturing: EV's are easier to manufacture and maintain due to less number of parts. 8.) Recycling: Due to the complexity of the ICE vehicle, it takes more energy to recycle it due to the various parts and different metals used in its manufacturing. The bottom line is that the eco system of vehicles evolved around fossil fuel and the ICE engine not because we wanted it, but because that is all we have had. Now with the revolution in electronics, energy storage and manufacturing. It is viable to make EV's for daily use. The mobile phone industry propelled improvements in battery tech, Infrastructure will take time, yes. Trust me, we engineers have figured it out... The will to change or not, EV's are coming. Cherish the ICE while you can. We can and we must prepare for a fossil fuel less future. EV's are just doing that.. “Those who never change their minds, never change anything.” ― Sir Winston S. Churchill
just shows how little u guys know about ev generation and grid. The petrol refining alone uses way more electricity than ev altogether and dont get me started on transmission part. So its not oil vs ev its oil+ electricity(to refine it)+ transmission vs ev and that comes from the same 50-60 mix of coal too. Hope this stupid argument ends soon.
That's s valid point that makes sense on face value . However dig deeper and that is just one part of it. Everything takes electricity, cryptocurrency is a power hogger that way and one of the reasons why it's probably dying. Even AI takes up a lot of power. My concern is when we are looking for an energy source after the petroleum based engines, why To even go down the route that involves similar consumption of resources and that adds the dilemma of effective and sustainable battery disposal, a problem that hasn't even shown its face yet ? The whole point was to create something sustainable and green wasn't it ? The governments and companies could have given the scientists of the world a bit more heads up on this one ! And let's not forget about other issues like charging infra, range and more.
@@MotoGrapherOfficial true. We as common man look for ease of use. Petrol stations are everywhere so it’s easy for everyone. Charging stations are not everywhere so it’s a dilemma. Common man doesn’t bother if Evs are green or ICE is cheaper to buy. We want convenience. Even if it’s expensive to fill petrol.
@MotoGrapherOfficial yes AI nd crypto takes huge amount of energy almost close to a small country and its growing. I really wish it was as simple as gov and scientist working together to solve it but scale of prob is enormous. At the moment there is a clear path to be sustainable with ev's when we scale and grid will be powered by renewables. Already part of it is less than 1/3rd still a part nontheless. About battery disposal its highlighted enough but each material inside battery is close to 95% recyclable, is the recycling happening is scale no. Bcoz batteries stay for a long time normally 16-17 yrs in an ev before they are replaced. Lfp even more. And companies are working towards a million mile battery. So its close that we will die before cars. When the prob of recycling arrives it will solve itself. Its not just economically viable to open a recycling industry now when the scale for used battery is almost non existing. Solar and wind are the cheapest source of energy and we aren't energy constraint in any means , most of the countries are even stopping wind and solar plant bcos of low demand, we just can't store it at present cos batteries are still a little too expe sive fr storage. Honestly the problem is scale, evs are a viable solution even if petrol heads and companies are playing distractions and throwing stupid facts around. But it needs work nontheless.
@MotoGrapherOfficial range issue is non-existing, people who owns an ev knows it, no person owning activa will say that my scooty goes just 130 kms I wish it could go more because petrolpumps are everywhere. So instead of range we need more charging points and that will solve soon too. It is solved already for 4 wheelers across the world and in india too I guess but 2 wheelers is just getting started. Give it another 3-4 years as tech matures there won't be an argument left. Also ev last a lifetime unlike petrol cars and bikes that last 2 lakh max? Ev's can do atleast 5-6 lakh at present, that too our local brands like tata so many more potential left to unlock. Self driving is coming too look at tesla's current event we robot. The pace of innovation is now too quick that 5 yrs ahead our present life will look ages behind
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Only thing holding back Ultraviolette is CCS2 port. Even a Ev fan like myself who has been enjoying my Nexon Ev since 3 years and plan to never go ICE ever again, I wanted to buy UV from the day it was launched but only if it had CCS2. I like going on long rides and charging with 15A socket for 3 - 4 hours is not reasonable.
There's this brand called raptee which just launched a bike with that
@ yes I had a look at raptee. But their battery is small around 5.4 kw. At least 10 kw or more is good for long rides.
What india needs is s robust supercharger network and reliable availability of electricity. We had to recharge the UV on our shoot in the hills using a diesel generator from a roadside cafe as power broke down in the entire area!
@@MotoGrapherOfficial very true.
Double that, same page as you. Nexon EV Max life has never been simpler.
9:35 oh really petrol /Diesel vehicles can run without any technology? Then what about Fuel Injectors , ECU's , Fuses , Led , Wiring Harness , Horn , 12 Volts battery , Starter Motor's ?
What a matching comparison! 2 made in India bikes in the similar segment, put against each other so we can see how they differ. However there are some things we need to consider which most ICE heads forget about.
1.) Ease and comfort: EV's have no gears or clutch, if we ride both these bikes through a place like Old Delhi for an hr, how much sweat and effort each of the riders has to go through traversing start stop conditions.
2.) Manufacturing complexity: It is a lot simpler and less energy consuming to make an electric vehicle as compared to an Ice vehicle which has a lot more moving precision parts.
3.) Infrastructure: ICE is popular as the infrastructure to refine and transport fuel has already been set up over so many years. As a one on one comparison it is easier to transport electricity vs fuel.
4.) Pollution: An ICE engine causes local pollution, it emits harmful compounds such as Benzene and other hydrocarbons right next to our nostrils. This is a leading cause of respiratory diseases such as COPD and Asthma. Air pollution is one of the largest killers in our times. Yes Coal plants pollute but almost all are out of the city, The cost of a solar unit in India is less than that of coal, Going Nuclear building small local power plants is also a solution which the Government is now implementing.
5.) Fuel extraction: We never take into account the pollution caused by oil spills, oil extraction and used engine oil which causes environmental damage. Extracting oil from under the ground is a dirty industry.
6.) Availability: Fossil fuels are a limited source of energy, the amount is finite. Now one would argue, Hydrogen, fuel cells, clean and easily available. Hydrogen is generated by electricity and a fuel cell vehicle is also an electric vehicle under its cover.
7.) Cost of Manufacturing: EV's are easier to manufacture and maintain due to less number of parts.
8.) Recycling: Due to the complexity of the ICE vehicle, it takes more energy to recycle it due to the various parts and different metals used in its manufacturing.
The bottom line is that the eco system of vehicles evolved around fossil fuel and the ICE engine not because we wanted it, but because that is all we have had. Now with the revolution in electronics, energy storage and manufacturing. It is viable to make EV's for daily use. The mobile phone industry propelled improvements in battery tech, Infrastructure will take time, yes. Trust me, we engineers have figured it out... The will to change or not, EV's are coming. Cherish the ICE while you can. We can and we must prepare for a fossil fuel less future. EV's are just doing that..
“Those who never change their minds, never change anything.”
― Sir Winston S. Churchill
One question : why can't we quote an Indian ? Why Churchill ?
@@MotoGrapherOfficial So Sorry Moto
“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
just shows how little u guys know about ev generation and grid. The petrol refining alone uses way more electricity than ev altogether and dont get me started on transmission part. So its not oil vs ev its oil+ electricity(to refine it)+ transmission vs ev and that comes from the same 50-60 mix of coal too. Hope this stupid argument ends soon.
That's s valid point that makes sense on face value . However dig deeper and that is just one part of it. Everything takes electricity, cryptocurrency is a power hogger that way and one of the reasons why it's probably dying. Even AI takes up a lot of power.
My concern is when we are looking for an energy source after the petroleum based engines, why To even go down the route that involves similar consumption of resources and that adds the dilemma of effective and sustainable battery disposal, a problem that hasn't even shown its face yet ? The whole point was to create something sustainable and green wasn't it ? The governments and companies could have given the scientists of the world a bit more heads up on this one !
And let's not forget about other issues like charging infra, range and more.
@@MotoGrapherOfficial true. We as common man look for ease of use. Petrol stations are everywhere so it’s easy for everyone. Charging stations are not everywhere so it’s a dilemma. Common man doesn’t bother if Evs are green or ICE is cheaper to buy. We want convenience. Even if it’s expensive to fill petrol.
@MotoGrapherOfficial yes AI nd crypto takes huge amount of energy almost close to a small country and its growing. I really wish it was as simple as gov and scientist working together to solve it but scale of prob is enormous. At the moment there is a clear path to be sustainable with ev's when we scale and grid will be powered by renewables. Already part of it is less than 1/3rd still a part nontheless. About battery disposal its highlighted enough but each material inside battery is close to 95% recyclable, is the recycling happening is scale no. Bcoz batteries stay for a long time normally 16-17 yrs in an ev before they are replaced. Lfp even more. And companies are working towards a million mile battery. So its close that we will die before cars. When the prob of recycling arrives it will solve itself. Its not just economically viable to open a recycling industry now when the scale for used battery is almost non existing. Solar and wind are the cheapest source of energy and we aren't energy constraint in any means , most of the countries are even stopping wind and solar plant bcos of low demand, we just can't store it at present cos batteries are still a little too expe sive fr storage. Honestly the problem is scale, evs are a viable solution even if petrol heads and companies are playing distractions and throwing stupid facts around. But it needs work nontheless.
@MotoGrapherOfficial range issue is non-existing, people who owns an ev knows it, no person owning activa will say that my scooty goes just 130 kms I wish it could go more because petrolpumps are everywhere. So instead of range we need more charging points and that will solve soon too. It is solved already for 4 wheelers across the world and in india too I guess but 2 wheelers is just getting started. Give it another 3-4 years as tech matures there won't be an argument left. Also ev last a lifetime unlike petrol cars and bikes that last 2 lakh max? Ev's can do atleast 5-6 lakh at present, that too our local brands like tata so many more potential left to unlock. Self driving is coming too look at tesla's current event we robot. The pace of innovation is now too quick that 5 yrs ahead our present life will look ages behind
Ev will not grow man, anyway who wants that ev shit no character so solul