I’ve worked with a few engineers that exposed me to the idea of using the same make and model of mics for your handhelds and headsets. At first, I thought it was silly, having come from a studio environment into the live world, but it can streamline the tuning process and make the physics of the room somewhat easier to deal with. You are of course compromising some of the priorities you consider in this video. Along with that - keeping an eye on your gain structure and making sure your kinds of mics are living in relatively the same world is also one of those surprises you encounter in live sound. And lastly, relevant to the two things I just mentioned, it is amazing what you can provoke from your singer by subtly adjusting their monitor mix (usually without them knowing or noticing). There are so many ways to work a microphone, but often what we need as the engineers, dictated by the physics of the room, is for the musicians to be consistently up on the mic. Yet, if they mix their monitoring to reflect a different style of working the mic or if they don’t have enough pitch reference, it can really screw things up. This is often where a good singer starts having pitch problems or you can’t get enough gain before feedback, because they have their voice turned up so loud they feel like they have to back off the mic.
Excellent demo James, as always. I was intrigued by how the sound changed when the Lewitt W950 was switched to supercardioid how it affected the audio. In a good way in opinion. Most of my mics are now wireless, my favorite is the Sennheiser XSW2 865. If only I could get my people to stand closer to the mic I'd be happier. Thanks to you and your assistants, from some random Church audio video guy in PA. PS there's a nasty rumor since I don't have much upstairs, I have to use plug-in EQ on my Studio One DAW used for my Livestream processing.
I believe there is a compressor in the signal chain too. Try to judge the drum rejection while the singer is singing, not during the silence period between or at the end of singing.
I didn't really notice a difference between the three for the vocalists but it seemed to me as though drum bleed was strongest on mic 3. Possibly place mic 1(?) in supercardiod and redirect it's position a little so as not to point in the direction of the drums. Could also hear the guitars in all three mics FWIW.
I think in first place, i would high shelf boost on female's voice, before comparing all mics, because in all three comparisons - voice was a bit dull.
We need more blind test like this 🎉🎉🎉.
First time listening the v7 in a blind test.
Very pedagogic video. Thanks.
You're welcome! And thank you for the SAT-level word.
I’ve worked with a few engineers that exposed me to the idea of using the same make and model of mics for your handhelds and headsets. At first, I thought it was silly, having come from a studio environment into the live world, but it can streamline the tuning process and make the physics of the room somewhat easier to deal with. You are of course compromising some of the priorities you consider in this video. Along with that - keeping an eye on your gain structure and making sure your kinds of mics are living in relatively the same world is also one of those surprises you encounter in live sound. And lastly, relevant to the two things I just mentioned, it is amazing what you can provoke from your singer by subtly adjusting their monitor mix (usually without them knowing or noticing). There are so many ways to work a microphone, but often what we need as the engineers, dictated by the physics of the room, is for the musicians to be consistently up on the mic. Yet, if they mix their monitoring to reflect a different style of working the mic or if they don’t have enough pitch reference, it can really screw things up. This is often where a good singer starts having pitch problems or you can’t get enough gain before feedback, because they have their voice turned up so loud they feel like they have to back off the mic.
Excellent demo James, as always.
I was intrigued by how the sound changed when the Lewitt W950 was switched to supercardioid how it affected the audio. In a good way in opinion.
Most of my mics are now wireless, my favorite is the Sennheiser XSW2 865.
If only I could get my people to stand closer to the mic I'd be happier.
Thanks to you and your assistants,
from some random Church audio video guy in PA.
PS there's a nasty rumor since I don't have much upstairs, I have to use plug-in EQ on my Studio One DAW used for my Livestream processing.
I love this! :) but what version of Be Thou My Vision is Katie singing?? The Hallelujahs are so pretty!!
I believe there is a compressor in the signal chain too. Try to judge the drum rejection while the singer is singing, not during the silence period between or at the end of singing.
We use sE7 wireless Caps and sE7 wired mics. They have great side rejection (bleed control).
I super liked Mic 2!
I recommend high pass filters for all vocals, cut everything above 4 k, run serial compressors, and a doubler way down low.
Before everything else
I preferred the Heil on Katie and the SE on Jory. I didn’t expect that as I really like Lewitt mics.
Yet another reason why I made the test more "blind"... at least for y'all :)
Great singers!
I know, right? I'm blessed with very talented friends
On the male mic 1 is really good for blocking drum bleed while he sang but got loud when he stopped. Mic 2 and 3 too
Mic 3 is way clearer for her but it needs more headroom for those beautiful frequencies that are louder
For Katie I liked the 2nd
I didn't really notice a difference between the three for the vocalists but it seemed to me as though drum bleed was strongest on mic 3.
Possibly place mic 1(?) in supercardiod and redirect it's position a little so as not to point in the direction of the drums.
Could also hear the guitars in all three mics FWIW.
Wow mic 1 for drum bleed. Very good
Addison!!! (JHS Show watcher here.)
Heil pr37 is a 7 out of 10 but it was good for the female. For the male it's the supercardiod mic you used
I think in first place, i would high shelf boost on female's voice, before comparing all mics, because in all three comparisons - voice was a bit dull.
I liked MIC3 on her voice, MIC1 on his voice the most.
I am using Sound-craft Si-3 Expressions Please tell me Ideal settings of FX for Vocal singing Mic
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Hey there can you make a video explaining how to avoid clipping on the master bus?
I'm having issues with this
Turn up your amplifiers by 10 dB. Then you'll have 10 dB of headroom on your master bus.
@@AttawayAudio I am unfortunately using active speakers so no external amps are present
Choose senheisers 945 and 965
Curious is jory his first or last name? James Jory here; farmer/sound tech/worship leader in montana.
Jory is his first name
But it gets stuck in a frequency I wanted to hear.
Male vx mic 1
Female not sure as her vocals sounded a bit muddy on all 3
Is that Addison on drums!?!?
The one and only
Mic 1 sounds best with the male on supercardiod
What is the name of the software you are using on the phone
It's the SQ Mixpad software for the Allen & Heath SQ series boards
Mic one for the male isn't good for him. Makes him try to compensate for something he's not hearing.
now is that THE Addison?????? spotted out in the jungle ;)
Haha yup, that's the one!
Mic 2 good but not as much rejection
Mic 3 good but drums are a bit pider than 2
Mic 3 is better but the cuts didn't help with the vibrato or chest voice he was really giving
Akd best cheapest live mic
Mic two is better so far..
Mic two took away some mids for the male
2 and 3 are ok, 1 is bad.
I don't like the lewitt
HEY CAN I SET UP A PHONE CALL WITH YOU